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Sep 12, 2017 #1

jstnGold MemberGold Member 2,146 Jun 27, 2012

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but today I stumbled upon Jim Skelton's webpage, ostensibly for his own line of custom knives. I know there are many who love his reviews, but I have always found him to be somewhat absurd. I put very little stock in his suggestions, and between his bizarre brand of machismo and self-styled knife expertise, I haven't ever been able to sit through a full video. So, after looking through his website, I was surprised to find I actually do like a few of his designs, specifically the EDC model. I was even curious enough to look into pricing, only to quickly change my mind upon seeing what he is charging. Do his loyal followers really pay the hefty asking price for his customs? I will stick with my Izula and Street beat for less than one-fourth of what Skelton is asking. Maybe I am missing something?

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Sep 12, 2017 #2

halden.doergeI'll Sharpen Your KnifeKnifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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Yeah, I'm not too interested in $400 fixed blades. At all.

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Sep 12, 2017 #3

Thin-Slice 1,145 Jul 4, 2016

Dont use fixed blades for EDC so its irrelevant for me. I dont know about his designs other than pics on IG i have seen. As far as price it depends on materials and time it took to make. Then again i wouldnt pay that much ($400 as stated above) on a fixed blade. But to each his own

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Sep 12, 2017 #4

halden.doergeI'll Sharpen Your KnifeKnifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 2,820 Aug 17, 2014

Yeah, if I've got $400+ to drop on some S35VN, you'd best believe it's gonna be Chris Reeve that gets my money. I'll honestly be really surprised if he can find customers for these knives at these prices, given the broadening of the custom knife market right now. Unless his YT followers are super rich and blindly devoted, I guess.

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Sep 12, 2017 #5

jstnGold MemberGold Member 2,146 Jun 27, 2012

I can find many established custom makers with that use comparable materials and are a known quantify for less than the $400 (base model!) asking price. I suppose some people will pay for the name. I am really just wondering if Skelton has any real experience making knives, or if someone is assisting him along the way. Personally, I have paid close to $400 dollars for some fixed blades, but one was a large custom, one was a Dark Timber, and the others were all Busse knives. I felt that most of them were worth the price, but again, they were much larger blades with excellent warranties behind them. But, I have to agree with you Thin-Slice, to each his own, and I guess something is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.

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Sep 12, 2017 #6

Hickory n steel 7,507 Feb 11, 2016

Is he the guy that reviews all of the impractical pocket jewelry ?

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Sep 12, 2017 #7

jstnGold MemberGold Member 2,146 Jun 27, 2012

halden.doerge said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Yeah, if I've got $400+ to drop on some S35VN, you'd best believe it's gonna be Chris Reeve that gets my money. I'll honestly be really surprised if he can find customers for these knives at these prices, given the broadening of the custom knife market right now. Unless his YT followers are super rich and blindly devoted, I guess. Click to expand... Hickory n steel said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Is he the guy that reviews all of the impractical pocket jewelry ? Click to expand... Haha, yes. I didn't want to word it that bluntly, but that was the exact wording that came to mind. Makes me think his customs will be little more than more of the same.

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Sep 12, 2017 #8

halden.doergeI'll Sharpen Your KnifeKnifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 2,820 Aug 17, 2014

Hickory n steel said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Is he the guy that reviews all of the impractical pocket jewelry ? Click to expand... In his defense, he also drops the occasional F-bomb. On account of his hardcoreness.

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Sep 12, 2017 #9

Insipid MonikerGold MemberGold Member 10,465 Feb 28, 2011

Skelton is a salesman, first and foremost, so I suspect his custom line will sell just fine. They're too rich for my blood and the garish coatings are off putting, but some of the designs seem pretty practical and at least one I just think is nifty. If there's a production collab I might pick one up, but for $400 he can keep 'em.

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Hickory n steel

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halden.doerge said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; In his defense, he also drops the occasional F-bomb. On account of his hardcoreness. Click to expand... Oh. Ok. Now since what he reviews is what he likes, then would it be wrong to assume that this is the kind of stuff he makes ? I never finished a video of his so I'm not sure, but does he consider these to be functional cutting tools , and if not then is he making and selling more functional stuff ?

11. Sep 12, 2017 #11

SpySmasherGold MemberGold Member 2,807 Sep 1, 2016

They seem perfectly functional to me. If Busse made one of these in natural micarta, everyone around here would eat them up. What they are is blinged up and overpriced.

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halden.doergeI'll Sharpen Your KnifeKnifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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SpySmasher said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; What they are is blinged up and overpriced. Click to expand... Ding ding! We have a winner. Functionality, if it's on Skelton's list is way, way down towards the bottom.

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Aldebaran 335 Sep 18, 2004

I can't say that I fully watched any of his videos. They seem rather pretentious to me. So do his knife prices for what they are.

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Charlie MikeSober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob)Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 27,562 Nov 1, 2000

halden.doerge said: â&#x2020;&#x2018;

Unless his YT followers are super rich and blindly devoted, I guess. Click to expand... Its actually IG, but yeah... You just summed it up. Trying to "buy" street cred.

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Mo2 3,661 Apr 8, 2016

He did not start out at that cost. And he has to make a living. He was trained by Jerry Moen, a master in knife maker. His fans have made the price you see today. Don't blame him only. Anyways you'll are haters. He's just some guy in a world of people. He absolutely is a sales person. He has his own style and lots of haters. I'm not saying I don't agree with some of your guys point of views, cause I do. But it's just coming off on bad taste.

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Aldebaran 335 Sep 18, 2004

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Charlie MikeSober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob)Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 27,562 Nov 1, 2000

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halden.doergeI'll Sharpen Your KnifeKnifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 2,820

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Mo2 3,661 Apr 8, 2016

Wow some people. lol you'll are triggered now.

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halden.doergeI'll Sharpen Your KnifeKnifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 2,820 Aug 17, 2014

Mo2 said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Wow some people. lol you'll are triggered now. Click to expand...

Sep 12, 2017 #21

Mo2 3,661 Apr 8, 2016

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Charlie Mike said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Click to expand... Yea I agree his knives aren't worth much. But these people who are actually paying it are everywhere. Shit look at the people buying Quartermaster knives (the real scammers) . They are buying into the Jim Skelton brand. His followers that like his videos. If someone wants to buy into it, why hate. Doesn't mean shit to us. And we know it's not worth it to us.

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Sep 12, 2017 #22

halden.doergeI'll Sharpen Your KnifeKnifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 2,820 Aug 17, 2014

Mo2 said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Yea I agree his knives aren't worth much. But these people who are actually paying it are everywhere. Shit look at the people buying Quartermaster knives (the real scammers) . They are buying into the Jim Skelton brand. His followers that like his videos. If someone wants to buy into it, why hate. Doesn't mean shit to us. And we know it's not worth it to us. Click to expand... I'm more just amused by it, that's all.

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Sep 12, 2017 #23

Charlie MikeSober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob)Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 27,562 Nov 1, 2000

I'm just trying to point out that the emperor has no clothes. Its like public school all over again. People want to be SEEN with the same swag the cool people are sporting. Some people are so insecure that they'd spend legitimate sums of money on trinkets because the comments and likes give perceived validation.

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Sep 12, 2017 #24

NorthernSouthpaw 966 Feb 27, 2014

I have no idea how he is in real life. I've never even PMd him, but it's not too difficult to look up some of his history on other forums. Mr. Skelton has shown some absolutely fantastic knives over the years, and his YT persona IS entertaining. However it is also that of a blow hard egomaniac who loves showing off his one of a kind knives and he revels in that fact. Many find that grating. For those that grew up in the 80's you might remember the show "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous". I liken Jim to the host of that show, Robin Leach. He shows you an over the top custom and gushes about all the special features. Then he points out that it's HIS one of a kind and it's something no one else (i.e. YOU) will never be able to acquire! And yes I still watch his stuff and follow him on social media. I find him aggravating, yet entertaining at the same time. I am not trying to hate on the man, but those are a few of the reasons why he invites such a divisive opinion.

Like I said, I still follow him on both IG and YT. Although lately all he really does on IG is shill his own stuff (rightfully so). But that's his persona, the showman. Jim Skelton the knifemaker is something altogether different. My problems with Skelton's customs are twofold 1. I can see why some may find his design appealing. Seriously though, for a guy who is just starting out, he charges WAY too much for what he is producing. I've seen custom fixed blades AND folders for less $$. Made by much more established makers with a whole lot more than 6 months knifemaking experience. He is taking advantage of his very wide viewership to sell his knives. I don't blame him for that one bit. I DO however have a problem with the fact that he charges (IMO) close to double what he should for the product. Jim quickly jumped headfirst into the knifemaking game, and bought a whole lot of expensive equipment to start. How can he pay for that equipment? By charging what he does. Even though his skill level is not to the point that validates those prices. We will see what happens when the fanboys have all bought one and he needs to get REAL customers who have never heard of him. I see enough potential where that CAN happen. 2. This one is simple. The guy is a hypocrite. Not sure if it's still on YT, but I remember a vid where he rails on about how he removed himself for the Grimsmo's (I think) books because they wanted payment up front. Well guess what Mr. Skelton requires when you order a custom from him? I'll give you a hint, it aint cigars. Again, I really LIKE what Jim has done for the knife community. He has introduced quite a few custom makers to us, and those makers have reaped the rewards with filled up books shortly after a Skelton video. Did they slip him something on the side as many have accused? I neither know, nor do I care. It helped those makers exponentially either way. So if he got something on the sly it was earned. I truly wish the guy nothing but the best of luck. I just wish he went about it in a different way.

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Sep 13, 2017 #25

NorthernSouthpaw

966 Feb 27, 2014

WOW! Sorry for the super huge post guys. It was something I was thinking on after just watching YT, and this thread was the perfect storm for me to let it out

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Sep 13, 2017 #26

RevDevilSuper Evil SupermodStaff MemberSuper Mod 42,566 Nov 9, 2009

jstn said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Sorry if this has already been discussed, but today I stumbled upon Jim Skelton's webpage, ostensibly for his own line of custom knives. I know there are many who love his reviews, but I have always found him to be somewhat absurd. I put very little stock in his suggestions, and between his bizarre brand of machismo and self-styled knife expertise, I haven't ever been able to sit through a full video. So, after looking through his website, I was surprised to find I actually do like a few of his designs, specifically the EDC model. I was even curious enough to look into pricing, only to quickly change my mind upon seeing what he is charging. Do his loyal followers really pay the hefty asking price for his customs? I will stick with my Izula and Street beat for less than one-fourth of what Skelton is asking. Maybe I am missing something? Click to expand... I agree with your first paragraph, I would go so far as to say you are way too kind, and your summation is far too short. However, it is accurate. That is my personal feeling as a knife enthusiast myself, there are some folks that I just have on permanent ignore. Some people live in a fantasy world and the rest of us poor bastids live in the reality of life.

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Sep 13, 2017 #27

palonejPlatinum MemberPlatinum Member 9,982 Aug 5, 2015

No worries NS! Very well said. I'll never buy anything from him, especially after reading some of the shit he pulled when he was a member on a large cigar forum. Lowlife behavior. Joe

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Sep 13, 2017 #28

stuff_thingsGold MemberGold Member 1,182 Apr 28, 2015

Charlie Mike said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Its actually IG, but yeah... You just summed it up. Trying to "buy" street cred. Click to expand... Nice. Can't buy the streets when you're on em. Jim learned from arguably one of the best in the business, used to sell trash to TV junkies back in the day, and appears to have deep pockets...the $$$ fixed blades, I assume, are only a stepping stone to corner the niche market he has successfully created for himself.

No surprise here, whatsoever. Functionality trails far behind form in his designs-- in my opinion.

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Sep 13, 2017 #29

G. Scott H.Basic MemberBasic Member 8,152 Jan 9, 2006

Hickory n steel said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Is he the guy that reviews all of the impractical pocket jewelry ? Click to expand... Why would you say that?

Gotta admit the sheer ludicrousness of that knife fills me with some sort of perverse joy.

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Hickory n steel

7,507 Feb 11, 2016

G. Scott H. said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Why would you say that?

Gotta admit the sheer ludicrousness of that knife fills me with some sort of perverse joy.

Click to expand... I love how he called this thing a folding shovel and a trowel, it's funny but also I'm glad to know he wouldn't try to argue it's " functionality ".

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SpySmasherGold MemberGold Member 2,807 Sep 1, 2016

G. Scott H. said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Why would you say that?

Gotta admit the sheer ludicrousness of that knife fills me with some sort of perverse joy.

Click to expand...

Wow. And I turn my nose up at Striders.

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grownstar 6,068 Apr 24, 2013

I read that he had one of those Go Fund Me's set up for donations because he could no longer afford his lavish lifestyle after quitting his day job. If I want a true workhorse of a fixed blade and also want to support the knife community, I'll just hit up Charlie Mike.

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Charlie MikeSober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob)Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 27,562 Nov 1, 2000

Go Fund Me and Kickstarter are dangerous things. Thats why I took it on myself to buy my own CNC... $300/month for the next 3 years, and thats just for this:

The base cabinet, computer, etc were another $2k+... Needless to say I'm eating ramen

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jstnGold MemberGold Member 2,146 Jun 27, 2012

Mo2 said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; He did not start out at that cost. And he has to make a living. He was trained by Jerry Moen, a master in knife maker. His fans have made the price you see today. Don't blame him only. Anyways you'll are haters. He's just some guy in a world of people. He absolutely is a sales person. He has his own style and lots of haters. I'm not saying I don't agree with some of your guys point of views, cause I do. But it's just coming off on bad taste. Click to expand... Call me a hater then! I admit, I can't stand his Youtube channel, so there is some bias from that. Good to hear that Skelton is actually trained, and a few of his designs look pretty good. If he were to do some toned down versions without all the flourishes for a fraction of the cost I would be likely to buy one. But bad taste? I don't know about that. This is a knife forum, a place to discuss knives and their makers, prices, etc., and this seems completely germane.

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15. Sep 13, 2017 #35

Rat FinkensteinGold MemberGold Member 22,513 May 18, 2005

I wouldn't buy anything associated with that shmuck.

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GermanyChrisGold MemberGold Member 1,876 Feb 18, 2015

Yup they're just what I thought they'd be tacky, garish, and expensive.

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shinyedgesEvery man's intelligence is a godPlatinum Member 7,445

Jun 5, 2012

From what I've read he's a sleazy thief who stole from people on a cigar forum. No thanks jimbo.

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abcdef 3,055 Oct 28, 2005

I've been on BF for years and never heard of him. (Not much into YT) Is he related to Red? This is some of the funniest stuff I've seen in a while.

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danbotGold MemberGold Member 2,685 Oct 31, 2009

Never heard of this guy, but I don't watch YT knife reviews. I googled him and checked out his website. Some of his knives are real pretty, but they don't look that functional. If I was into paying that kind of money just for "pretty", it would only be from a maker with a great reputation that I have respect for. This guy is trying to start at the top and it just doesn't work that way. If you have a real passion for knifemaking, you will pay your dues with hard work and dedication. This guy

will not be around for the long haul IMO. Once the novelty has worn off with his followers and they move on to the next big thing he will have no foundation left to stand on. Why are there no unbiased reviews of any of his knives? (that I could find) Why no mention of warranty on his website? No mention of processes or equipment he is using either? and an extra $300 for off the shelf Damasteel? PASS!

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palonejPlatinum MemberPlatinum Member 9,982 Aug 5, 2015

1. Cutlover 366 Jan 20, 2016

palonej said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; I read that entire thread Chris, wish I saved the link. Long story short, he lost his job and a Good Samaritan on the cigar forum offered a rental

property to him till he got back on his feet, at an extremely considerate rental sum. He was married with a small child at the time. Skelton never made one rental payment and it wound up jamming the property owner up big time. He wound up skipping on over $30,000. Damage to the property also. Just total scum. Click to expand... This story sounds a little suspect in my opinion. Do you have a link for proof? Unless he was a conplete moron, no one would let $30k slide without a lawsuit or some form of retaliation. I don't see $30k disappearing as well as property damage a possibility without repercussions.

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Sep 13, 2017 #42

shinyedgesEvery man's intelligence is a godPlatinum Member 7,445 Jun 5, 2012

palonej said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; I read that entire thread Chris, wish I saved the link. Long story short, he lost his job and a Good Samaritan on the cigar forum offered a rental property to him till he got back on his feet, at an extremely considerate rental sum. He was married with a small child at the time. Skelton never made one rental payment and it wound up jamming the property owner up big time. He wound up skipping on over $30,000. Damage to the property also. Just total scum. Click to expand... That's the one. Scum is right.

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Sep 13, 2017 #43

palonejPlatinum MemberPlatinum Member 9,982 Aug 5, 2015

Still looking for it. I read it about a year or so ago. There had to be about 10 threads dedicated to Skelton and how he screwed over a few of their members. The worst was that guy with the property. I'll find it. Cutlover said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; This story sounds a little suspect in my opinion. Do you have a link for proof? Unless he was a conplete moron, no one would let $30k slide without a lawsuit or some form of retaliation. I don't see $30k disappearing as well as property damage a possibility without repercussions. Click to expand...

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Sep 13, 2017 #44

PNWhovian

463 Jan 16, 2015

While I've no interest in his reviews or the knives he claims to make, I've seen more than enough of both to find this whole situation interesting and a bit entertaining. I wouldn't and won't recommend his pieces to friends or family and if asked will steer them to more established makers with a good reputation and history. In fact I've pointed more than a few friends as well as my girlfriend to the custom section here on Bladeforums.

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Sep 13, 2017 #45

IckythumpGold MemberGold Member 2,377 Dec 8, 2011

Listened to one of his reviews for about 2 mins on YT some years ago..I had enough..Not suprised to hear some of his behavior..he reeks of arogance and narcissism..When I heard he was a shill and then a defender of that dingus Moon..just confirmed it for me.. Blowhard indeed

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Sep 13, 2017 #46

mmmotorcyclePlatinum MemberPlatinum Member 6,340

Jun 17, 2006

His crumminess aside, I use many of my fixed blades outdoors. None of those look remotely practical to me. Mall ninja jewelry if we are honest.

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Sep 13, 2017 #47

Charlie MikeSober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob)Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 27,562 Nov 1, 2000

Much of what sells for stupid high prices and has a cult of personality surrounding the maker was never intended to cut a thing.

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Sep 13, 2017 #48

KingMCThe Pun-isherPlatinum Member 6,858 Jul 25, 2014

palonej said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Still looking for it. I read it about a year or so ago. There had to be about 10 threads dedicated to Skelton and how he screwed over a few of their members.

The worst was that guy with the property. I'll find it. Click to expand... Earliest mention on BF I have of this story of yours is this post I found:

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Sep 13, 2017 #49

BeansandcarrotsGold MemberGold Member 284 Apr 15, 2014

Hickory n steel said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Oh. Ok. Now since what he reviews is what he likes, then would it be wrong to assume that this is the kind of stuff he makes ? I never finished a video of his so I'm not sure, but does he consider these to be functional cutting tools , and if not then is he making and selling more functional stuff ? Click to expand... He makes a ton of claims about really using the shit out of a knife, but have you ever seen any of these supposed users he hammers on daily? They are all absolutely pristine. Honestly man, after he stated in I believe a Kody Eutsler review that he noticed the grind lines of the primary bevel were asymmetrical and that he preferred that, because it meant it was hand done, I always thought the man was a joke and his videos rather masturbatorial. I certainly won't be dishing out four hundred USD for a man who stands behind asymmetrical handiwork

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115Italian 1,603 Nov 13, 2015

Ive checked out his work, seeing various pictures online and on his own website. One thing that stood out was his misuse of sharpening choils. Knives that needed them didn't have them. Knives that had them didnt need them. Not sure why so much 3v steel is used either. I don't get a sense that he truly understands knife making and knife using. Hes making jewelry not users.

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jbmonkeyPlatinum MemberPlatinum Member 5,494 Jun 9, 2011

wasnt he the junk overpriced watch selling on tv guy for awhile those junk invictas i seem to remember....maybe im confusing him with someone else? if i got the right guy....hes done watches, cigars and left a bad tastes in many folks mouths for his poor actions and deceit. so now knives. how longs that gonna last couple years like the other stuff........whats next drones?

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Velitrius 3,173 Mar 3, 2000

Skelton can keep those. I'll head back over to Bradford.

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NorthernSouthpaw 966 Feb 27, 2014

jbmonkey said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; wasnt he the junk overpriced watch selling on tv guy for awhile those junk invictas i seem to remember....maybe im confusing him with someone else? if i got the right guy....hes done watches, cigars and left a bad tastes in many folks mouths for his poor actions and deceit. so now knives. how longs that gonna last couple years like the other stuff........whats next drones? Click to expand... Yep. You got the right guy. But can we stop calling him a reviewer? What he does is essentially a 10-45 minute commercial for whichever knifemaker he is presenting. Also, besides having steered many an unwitting victim over to Will Moon via his YT vid (don't bother looking it up. He pulled it after it was discovered that Moon was fleecing

customers), Mr. Skelton inexplicably inserted himself into another nasty little screwjob that was administered by Dustin Turpin. You can read that holy mess here: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/ripped-off-by-dustin-turpin-knivesâ&#x20AC;&#x201C;-deal-withcaution.1387578/

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Charlie MikeSober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob)Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 27,562 Nov 1, 2000

A little bit of humility will take you a long way. You won't get rich but in my experience, you'll feel enriched.

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stuff_thingsGold MemberGold Member 1,182 Apr 28, 2015

If only he had a BF account to defend himself...

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16. Sep 14, 2017 #56

Spey 695 Apr 15, 2012

Cutlover said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; This story sounds a little suspect in my opinion. Do you have a link for proof? Unless he was a conplete moron, no one would let $30k slide without a lawsuit or some form of retaliation. I don't see $30k disappearing as well as property damage a possibility without repercussions. Click to expand... This year (2017) my good friend spent over well over $20k rehab on his rental home after getting tenants out. I was on the property when he offered to refund $200 of the damage deposit just to get that tenant to sign the move out inspection report. When renters know how to work tenant laws, many times it's just about getting them out and moving on to cut long-term losses. To me knives are tools. Form follows function. Skelton making knives ..., nothing to see here, move along ;-) Years back, I used to sometimes direct noobs to his channel telling them not to listen to anything he says related to functional aspect of the knives he showed. Just sit back and watch, like a stripper performing it was great entertainment. Skelton making knives and selling them ..., watch your wallet ;-)

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HowAmIGold MemberGold Member 280 Aug 5, 2016

Jim reminds me of Marfione. His knives are gaudy and overpriced. Also if you're logo is as tall as your blade, and as big as your ego then keep away.

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palonejPlatinum MemberPlatinum Member 9,982 Aug 5, 2015

I remember that disaster. Diamond Jim came in on his white horse to help out.......until someone asked him a question......he then took his ball and went home in a huff. Think he expected a parade or something. Total tool that, if given the slightest chance, will run off with the money again. Joe NorthernSouthpaw said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Yep. You got the right guy. But can we stop calling him a reviewer? What he does is essentially a 10-45 minute commercial for whichever knifemaker he is presenting. Also, besides having steered many an unwitting victim over to Will Moon via his YT vid (don't bother looking it up. He pulled it after it was discovered that Moon was fleecing customers), Mr. Skelton inexplicably inserted himself into another nasty little screwjob that was administered by Dustin Turpin. You can read that holy mess here: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/ripped-off-by-dustin-turpin-knivesâ&#x20AC;&#x201C;-deal-withcaution.1387578/

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HowAmIGold MemberGold Member 280 Aug 5, 2016

Jim was interviewed by KnifeNews. Can't wait to read it.

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ComeuppanceFixed Blade EDC EmisssaryGold Member 4,010 Jan 12, 2013

Paid memberships don't see ads! Oh, neat, has this thread finally gotten to the point where I can just mock Skelton? Jim Skelton seems to be the kind of guy who took the “never change” someone wrote in his high school yearbook to heart. He has an obnoxious junior high student’s perspective of masculinity and success, and is literally the kind of guy who drives a brightly-colored entry-level sports car while wearing a Rolex and carrying a $4500 knife like he’s going to add an inch on himself for every $1k that the stuff he carries and wears is worth. He and his knives are the living embodiment of a wallet with a $500 chain that has skull and grim reaper charms. Nearly all of his videos are just him showing off something that he outright bludgeoned an already-overbooked maker to send him a prototype of or make unique modifications to, peppered with misogyny and juvenile comments like (and these are quotes from just one video) “that’s a BAD ASS KNIFE” and “this knife makes that knife look like a [term for female genitals that I can’t post in general discussion]”. His inherently obnoxious and grating nature pervades every aspect of his online presence, from his 9th-grader-idea-of-cool skull logo to his excessively verbose QVC-style of speaking that contains nothing of interest and is the audio equivalent of watching a balloon full of gas slowly leak. That his self-gratifying and vapid nature is apparently paired with unscrupulous and dishonest behavior just goes to strengthen my mental image of him as the human equivalent of a bedazzled overflowing trash can. Also his knives have lame cliché names (BONE CHOPPER) and are overpriced.

Sep 14, 2017 #61

Charlie MikeSober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob)Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 27,562 Nov 1, 2000

Comeuppance said: ↑ Oh, neat, has this thread finally gotten to the point where I can just mock Skelton? Jim Skelton seems to be the kind of guy who took the “never change” someone wrote in his high school yearbook to heart. He has an obnoxious junior high student’s perspective of masculinity and success, and is literally the kind of guy who drives a brightly-colored entry-level sports car while wearing a Rolex and carrying a $4500 knife like he’s going to add an inch on himself for every $1k that the stuff he carries and wears is worth. He and his knives are the living embodiment of a wallet with a $500 chain that has skull and grim reaper charms. Nearly all of his videos are just him showing off something that he outright bludgeoned an already-overbooked maker to send him a prototype of or make unique modifications to, peppered with misogyny and juvenile comments like (and these are quotes from just one video) “that’s a BAD ASS KNIFE” and “this knife makes that knife look like a [term for female genitals that I can’t post in general discussion]”. His inherently obnoxious and grating nature pervades every aspect of his online presence, from his 9th-grader-idea-of-cool skull logo to his excessively verbose QVC-style of speaking that contains nothing of interest and is the audio equivalent of watching a balloon full of gas slowly leak. Also his knives have lame cliché names (BONE CHOPPER) and are overpriced. Click to expand... I wish I could like this post twice.

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Sep 14, 2017 #62

halden.doergeI'll Sharpen Your KnifeKnifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 2,820 Aug 17, 2014

Comeuppance said: ↑ Oh, neat, has this thread finally gotten to the point where I can just mock Skelton? Jim Skelton seems to be the kind of guy who took the “never change” someone wrote in his high school yearbook to heart. He has an obnoxious junior high student’s perspective of masculinity and success, and is literally the kind of guy who drives a brightly-colored entry-level sports car while wearing a Rolex and carrying a $4500 knife like he’s going to add an inch on himself for every $1k that the stuff he carries and wears is worth. He and his knives are the living embodiment of a wallet with a $500 chain that has skull and grim reaper charms. Nearly all of his videos are just him showing off something that he outright bludgeoned an already-overbooked maker to send him a prototype of or make unique modifications to, peppered with misogyny and juvenile comments like (and these are quotes from just one video) “that’s a BAD ASS KNIFE” and “this knife makes that knife look like a [term for female genitals that I can’t post in general discussion]”. His inherently obnoxious and grating nature pervades every aspect of his online presence, from his 9th-grader-idea-of-cool skull logo to his excessively verbose QVC-style of speaking that contains nothing of interest and is the audio equivalent of watching a balloon full of gas slowly leak. That his self-gratifying and vapid nature is apparently paired with unscrupulous and dishonest behavior just goes to strengthen my mental image of him as the human equivalent of a bedazzled overflowing trash can. Also his knives have lame cliché names (BONE CHOPPER) and are overpriced. Click to expand...

I endorse this statement.

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Sep 14, 2017 #63

Yo Mama 3,169 Sep 25, 2011

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Sep 14, 2017 #64

HowAmIGold MemberGold Member 280 Aug 5, 2016

Comeuppance said: ↑ Oh, neat, has this thread finally gotten to the point where I can just mock Skelton? Jim Skelton seems to be the kind of guy who took the “never change” someone wrote in his high school yearbook to heart. He has an obnoxious junior high student’s perspective of masculinity and success, and is literally the kind of guy who drives a brightly-colored entry-level sports car while wearing a Rolex and carrying a $4500 knife like he’s going to add an inch on himself for every $1k that the stuff he carries and wears is worth. He and his knives are the living embodiment of a wallet with a $500 chain that has skull and grim reaper charms. Nearly all of his videos are just him showing off something that he outright bludgeoned an already-overbooked maker to send him a prototype of or make unique modifications to, peppered with misogyny and juvenile comments like (and these are quotes from just one video) “that’s a BAD ASS KNIFE” and “this knife makes that knife look like a [term for female genitals that I can’t post in general discussion]”. His inherently obnoxious and grating nature pervades every aspect of his online presence, from his 9th-grader-idea-of-cool skull logo to his excessively verbose QVC-style of speaking that contains nothing of interest and is the audio equivalent of watching a balloon full of gas slowly leak. That his self-gratifying and vapid nature is apparently paired with unscrupulous and dishonest behavior just goes to strengthen my mental image of him as the human equivalent of a bedazzled overflowing trash can. Also his knives have lame cliché names (BONE CHOPPER) and are overpriced. Click to expand... "TIBIA!!!!!!! Also I drive a lime green HELLCAT! because it draws attention." He actually said he drives it because it's "cool and grabs attention."

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Sep 14, 2017 #65

Cutlover

366 Jan 20, 2016

The assessment of Skelton's character seems pretty accurate, but at the end of the day, if he's making money while people are all on the forums complaining about negative aspects of his character, then more power to him. As long as he isn't doing anything illegal or offensive, I see no issue. Still waiting to hear about that $30k story....not saying I don't believe he scammed $30k, but I never believe anything without proof.

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Sep 14, 2017 #66

jbmonkeyPlatinum MemberPlatinum Member 5,494 Jun 9, 2011

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Sep 14, 2017 #67

ShannonSteelLabsKnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service ProviderKnifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 207 Sep 9, 2015

Wow. I knew he was ripping people off with the prices he charges on fixed blades. Ive ony sold 2 fixed blades over 400. One was a massive machete in 3V with a 20 inch blade and a convex grind. The other was a bowie knife in Z-Finit, the steel alone cost $130, and TONS of work went into it. That bowie was designed FOR the customer and was 500. The dude loves it. (Uses it instead of a cleaver in the kitchen!) I agree with everyones view on his "mall ninja, steel snob cool" approach. His bone chopper is, odd at best. And i think the first few were hollow ground, which if you chop things is bad. I mean yea 3V is tough, but im sure cutting performance is not good. Even his Occipital edc knife is funky. Yea it looks cool but the handle doesnt look like it would work for actual use in the woods. From what i have seen on his IG his fit an finish has surpassed mine. I still have a ways to go to make mine better and i constantly work on it. But i also didnt sink 10 grand into a hobby immediately with the best tools. I started with a 40 dollar harbor freight grinder. Still use a grizzly 2x72 now. Somone on here also said his designs are just weird. Misuse of sharpening choils and all that. I totally agree. Some dont make sense. Like the new one in 3V its tiny and hollow ground. Wtf. Ive done tiny fixed blades in 3V but they have great cutting geometry. Ive literally pryed open doors with them. Also, not once, have i ever seen him test one of his knives. Dont trust that. And i had no idea the BS level of Skelton went as far as it did. Thats crazy about the skipping out on the 30K. Probably gonna unfollow soon. Along with rad knives...

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Sep 14, 2017 #68

Korean HogGold MemberGold Member 452 Mar 12, 2017

Zero clue about the guy personally, don't watch his YT, first hearing of him from this post. One look at his website and it's a no from the L.A. Korean surfing and blade federation.

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Sep 14, 2017 #69

PirateSeulb 851 Jun 6, 2017

I used to watch some of his videos never cared much for his commentary but did like to see some of the pocket jewelry he showed. I agree with how people view him because he does come off that way. I don't know the real him and honestly don't care who is really is as it doesn't really affect me. The man may be making a solid, yet over priced, product but as mentioned above he doesn't test them and it is nice to see a maker stand behind a product and do some of their own testing. The knives he is making have more in common with the knives he reviews in that they are more "artistic" than functional when simply looked at. His knives may be functional but the question is how well they function and such. I can find plenty of knives in his price range that I trust before him from a functional standpoint and still look great with out the gaudy appearance of his.

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Spey

695 Apr 15, 2012

Comeuppance said: ↑ Oh, neat, has this thread finally gotten to the point where I can just mock Skelton? Jim Skelton seems to be the kind of guy who took the “never change” someone wrote in his high school yearbook to heart. He has an obnoxious junior high student’s perspective of masculinity and success, and is literally the kind of guy who drives a brightly-colored entry-level sports car while wearing a Rolex and carrying a $4500 knife like he’s going to add an inch on himself for every $1k that the stuff he carries and wears is worth. He and his knives are the living embodiment of a wallet with a $500 chain that has skull and grim reaper charms. Nearly all of his videos are just him showing off something that he outright bludgeoned an already-overbooked maker to send him a prototype of or make unique modifications to, peppered with misogyny and juvenile comments like (and these are quotes from just one video) “that’s a BAD ASS KNIFE” and “this knife makes that knife look like a [term for female genitals that I can’t post in general discussion]”. His inherently obnoxious and grating nature pervades every aspect of his online presence, from his 9th-grader-idea-of-cool skull logo to his excessively verbose QVC-style of speaking that contains nothing of interest and is the audio equivalent of watching a balloon full of gas slowly leak. That his self-gratifying and vapid nature is apparently paired with unscrupulous and dishonest behavior just goes to strengthen my mental image of him as the human equivalent of a bedazzled overflowing trash can. Also his knives have lame cliché names (BONE CHOPPER) and are overpriced. Click to expand... ^^ NAILED IT ^^ Pretty comparable to what I might say, if I thought about it in one sitting.

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goldieGold MemberGold Member 2,227 Feb 18, 2000

The knives are made in Texas maybe he's in kahoots with Quartermaster ; haha...

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stuff_thingsGold MemberGold Member 1,182 Apr 28, 2015

His inherently obnoxious and grating nature pervades every aspect of his online presence, from his 9th-grader-idea-of-cool skull logo to his excessively verbose QVC-style of speaking that contains nothing of interest and is the audio equivalent of watching a balloon full of gas slowly leak. That his self-gratifying and vapid nature is apparently paired with unscrupulous and dishonest behavior just goes to strengthen my mental image of him as the human equivalent of a bedazzled overflowing trash can. Also his knives have lame clichĂŠ names (BONE CHOPPER) and are overpriced. Click to expand... Where have you been?!

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HowAmIGold MemberGold Member 280 Aug 5, 2016

Just read the KnifeNews story about him... It's got plentiful amount of meat on the bone to pick at... It was a good read. So do yourself a favor and read it!

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27,562 Nov 1, 2000

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PirateSeulb 851 Jun 6, 2017

Which is why if I had a child I wouldn't get them the trendy crap lol I would be a terribly cruel father in terms of their social life

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palonejPlatinum MemberPlatinum Member 9,982 Aug 5, 2015

I guess you can call me a terribly cruel father then PS!! While my boy's friends became video game corpses, I taught them every sport I played, got 2 of them in the gym, took them hiking, taught one of them to play a wicked game of 9 ball......etc. Did it on my own also, divorced and got custody. Best thing I ever did. Now they're grown and they are my best friends on the planet. No trendy BS. I like my kids!! Joe PirateSeulb said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Which is why if I had a child I wouldn't get them the trendy crap lol I would be a terribly cruel father in terms of their social life Click to expand...

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Yo Mama 3,169 Sep 25, 2011

Charlie Mike said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; A little bit of humility will take you a long way. You won't get rich but in my experience, you'll feel enriched. Click to expand... Quote i will be teaching my children today!

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danbotGold MemberGold Member 2,685 Oct 31, 2009

Here is a post I came across from another forum. This sums it up for me! BoomerkuwangaInstagram@blue_hill_customs 1 point 2 years ago He steals money from people to fund his spending habits. If you follow the trail of his history, his standard pattern is:

Get into an expensive hobby. Spend like a Saudi teenager. Run out of money. Cook up a sob story and borrow money from people. Blow that money and never pay it back. Become a pariah in that hobby community. Jump ship to another expensive hobby and start at step A. Never heard of him before, but this is an all too familiar story! 1.

Sep 16, 2017 #81

palonejPlatinum MemberPlatinum Member 9,982 Aug 5, 2015

Exactly what he did on that cigar forum.

danbot said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Here is a post I came across from another forum. This sums it up for me! BoomerkuwangaInstagram@blue_hill_customs 1 point 2 years ago He steals money from people to fund his spending habits. If you follow the trail of his history, his standard pattern is:

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Sep 16, 2017 #82

danbotGold MemberGold Member 2,685 Oct 31, 2009

palonej said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Exactly what he did on that cigar forum. Click to expand... http://lounge.cigarfamily.com/showthread.php?t=24123 Here is a link to that cigar forum I think. I can't access it here at work because its "Alcohol and Tobacco" content.

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Sep 17, 2017 #83

skyhorseGold MemberGold Member

9,479 Jan 30, 2010

Would it not be EPIC if that TV show Forged In Fire did an episode with Jim Skelton and Jared West ?

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Sep 17, 2017 #84

goldieGold MemberGold Member 2,227 Feb 18, 2000

^ That would be comical; Jared would just look at his watch,waiting for the knife to arrive from China.....

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Sep 18, 2017 #85

LX_EmergencyKnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service ProviderKnifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 3,040 Jun 28, 2007

Just looked up his prices........good lord.

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Sep 18, 2017 #86

chumaman 265 Nov 13, 2012

LX_Emergency said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Just looked up his prices........good lord. Click to expand... I could not resist.....when it says very talented knifemaker brutally fun to record, I am not Jim's fan

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Sep 18, 2017 #87

ChefgetGold MemberGold Member 3,040 Nov 2, 1998

Actually I'm a bit insulted Jim Skelton thinks that knife people are stupider than cigar and (cheap) watch people Dayum -Michael

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Sep 18, 2017 #88

bearfacedkiller 1,949 Jan 23, 2014

The truth is that he is not an anomaly and that there are many, many people in the world just like him. He has a demographic and it isn't most of us. He will probably see some success selling to the many people out there who share his tastes, his values and his personality. It may be crazy, it may be sad but it may also be true. We are interested in knives for what they are. Many others are interested in knives as status objects. They value them based on how others perceive them, what name is on them and how much they cost. To each their own. I prefer tools that represent a good value, are extremely functional and come from ethical companies. Lots of successful businessmen have questionable morality.

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Sep 18, 2017 #89

Basp2005 505 Dec 6, 2015

That guy won't get a dime from me.

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10. Sep 22, 2017 #90

Charlie MikeSober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob)Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 27,562 Nov 1, 2000

I should've posted this earlier...

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ShannonSteelLabsKnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service ProviderKnifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 207 Sep 9, 2015

Anyone see his latest knife on instagram? Has some spike thing near the finger choil... Who in their right mind would put that there.

like WTF.

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Charlie MikeSober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob)Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 27,562 Nov 1, 2000

Ouch!

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danbotGold MemberGold Member 2,685 Oct 31, 2009

What a POS! ...And the knife is a crap design too!

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OilManGold MemberGold Member 3,850 May 6, 2004

This link seems to show the cigar fiasco and some other issues he's had in the past.. https://www.google.com/search?q=jim...ome..69i57.15921j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UT F-8

15. Jan 25, 2018 #95

jstnGold MemberGold Member 2,146 Jun 27, 2012

ShannonSteelLabs said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Anyone see his latest knife on instagram? Has some spike thing near the finger choil... Who in their right mind would put that there. View attachment 835448 like WTF. Click to expand... A hardcore, Bad A like Skelton, that's who!

16. Jan 25, 2018 #96

goldieGold MemberGold Member 2,227 Feb 18, 2000

What kind of reasoning goes into putting a spike there ? That is a guaranteed accident waiting to happen.I hope he doesn't start designing guns the barrel might face the wrong way....

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shinyedgesEvery man's intelligence is a godPlatinum Member 7,445 Jun 5, 2012

That guy is an idiot.

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Mo2 3,661 Apr 8, 2016

goldie said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; What kind of reasoning goes into putting a spike there ? That is a guaranteed accident waiting to happen.I hope he doesn't start designing guns the barrel might face the wrong way.... Click to expand... People don't always buy knives to use. They just collect them. This is probably the reason.

19. Jan 25, 2018 #99

goldieGold MemberGold Member 2,227 Feb 18, 2000

Theres a lot better knives to collect than that one,thats for damn sure....

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SpySmasherGold MemberGold Member 2,807 Sep 1, 2016

Paid memberships don't see ads!

Jan 25, 2018 #101

ShannonSteelLabsKnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service ProviderKnifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider 207 Sep 9, 2015

Paid memberships don't see ads!

goldie said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Theres a lot better knives to collect than that one,thats for damn sure.... Click to expand... Yea especially for the price. 450$ plus. It 0.200 CPM 3V. Seems like over kill. I only use 3V for big choppers machetes and largw knives thay its requested for. I have made small knives with it. But they are 0.187 and nearly zero ground for good cutting performance. They can also pry open doors. Im not sure what he was thinking with that spike. I cant actually comprehend that for any knife to use.

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Jan 25, 2018 #102

danbotGold MemberGold Member 2,685 Oct 31, 2009

Maybe he's trying to get himself sued. That's an inherently unsafe to the user product!

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Jan 25, 2018 #103

emjay4248Gold MemberGold Member 878 Oct 8, 2016

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Jan 25, 2018 #104

Mr.SATism 143 Jul 31, 2017

jstn said: ↑ So, after looking through his website, I was surprised to find I actually do like a few of his designs, specifically the EDC model. Click to expand... Haven’t read past your post, but I love the concept behind these knives and how they’re based on parts of the human body. And for pricing, I always thought that this was standard for custom makers (apparently it is not, and that makes me hopeful)

Jan 25, 2018 #105

emjay4248Gold MemberGold Member 878 Oct 8, 2016

I just looked at his knives on his website and I was actually surprised. His large knife looks like a Yojimbo on serious steroids but his small knives are beautiful. If he actually made these knives I think he is extremely talented. If he keeps coming out with beautiful designs he is a knifemaker to be taken seriously. I again say that I am not a fan of his

YouTube channel but if you want to see a review of a Rockstead by someone who understands and carry's them I guess he the only game in town. I happen to like the Occipital 1 and think that it is an example of his level of skill. Depending on the price I would probably buy one. My logic is if Gareth Bull can get $650-700 for his Mid-tech knives then Skelton should be able to get his price. I know that it seems that I flip flopped but I had not looked at his stuff before. My bad

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Jan 25, 2018 #106

TW-Knife 135 Aug 31, 2001

Cutlover said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; The assessment of Skelton's character seems pretty accurate, but at the end of the day, if he's making money while people are all on the forums complaining about negative aspects of his character, then more power to him. As long as he isn't doing anything illegal or offensive, I see no issue. Still waiting to hear about that $30k story....not saying I don't believe he scammed $30k, but I never believe anything without proof. Click to expand... From the cigar forum: "Jim Skelton AKA Corona Gorda is the Biggest Scumbag there is, this guy has cross the line many times with a few of the CFers here. The worst is getting over on Bruce and Lindsey Storey by not paying them back the Money he owes them....Jim they have given you a second chance and you do this to them." "Thank you for your concern but the past money is not the problem. The problem is that I co-signed for a townhouse for Jim and Kelly and they are not paying their rent. I received

a call last week from the Management company telling me that if March's rent wasn't paid that day, they would file for eviction and judgement for breech of contract and money owed. I had no choice but to pay the rent to protect my good credit rating. The big problem is that there is 10 months left on the lease. Jim knows I want to protect my credit."

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Jan 25, 2018 #107

Sosa 2,956 Feb 6, 2014

Man. Good reminder not to trust anyone with your money.

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Jan 25, 2018 #108

PilsnerGold MemberGold Member 847 Oct 28, 2017

TW-Knife said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; From the cigar forum: "Jim Skelton AKA Corona Gorda is the Biggest Scumbag there is, this guy has cross the line many times with a few of the CFers here. The worst is getting over on Bruce and Lindsey Storey by not paying them back the Money he owes them....Jim they have given you a second chance and you do this to

them." "Thank you for your concern but the past money is not the problem. The problem is that I co-signed for a townhouse for Jim and Kelly and they are not paying their rent. I received a call last week from the Management company telling me that if March's rent wasn't paid that day, they would file for eviction and judgement for breech of contract and money owed. I had no choice but to pay the rent to protect my good credit rating. The big problem is that there is 10 months left on the lease. Jim knows I want to protect my credit." Click to expand... Short con artist: textbook. My prediction? Watch the knife enterprise boom then bust, to the horror of a legion of pre-paying customers.

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Jan 25, 2018 #109

goldieGold MemberGold Member 2,227 Feb 18, 2000

Cant pay the rent but has thousands of dollars in custom knives....

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danbotGold MemberGold Member

2,685 Oct 31, 2009

goldie said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Cant pay the rent but has thousands of dollars in custom knives.... Click to expand... I guess it's one or the other!

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ScooterGGold MemberGold Member 1,302 Mar 15, 2016

Should move this to W&C and let it run wild.

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Mitchell KnivesKnifemakerModerator 5,293 May 21, 2000

There is no shortage of people with more money than sense. Con artists know this, and actively target them.

Everyone seems to be interested in collecting trinkets that have no actual value. I used to joke that I should design a tactical spatula and sell it for $1,000. I actually feel like someone could do that now, and there would be a line of people online waiting to buy it. It would blow up on social media with the hashtag #spatulalife. Someone else would make a small fortune offering tactical spatula customization services. Every week I see a variety of new "knife fakers" online. They've never made a knife in their lives, and likely never will. They take pre-orders, farm the work out to others, and claim it as their own. They then waste all of their pre-order funds on jellybeans, and no one ever gets a knife or their money. This behavior is ruining the knife community and the perception of knife makers. Truly disgusting when you think about it.

WValtakis, gotgoat, danbot and 2 others like this. 13. Jan 25, 2018 #113

ScooterGGold MemberGold Member 1,302 Mar 15, 2016

ZT already has a tactical spatula. Maybe a tactical carrot peeler or coffee mug?

bad_juju, ChazzyP, ShannonSteelLabs and 2 others like this. 14. Jan 26, 2018 #114

Sosa 2,956 Feb 6, 2014

ScooterG said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; ZT already has a tactical spatula. Maybe a tactical carrot peeler or coffee mug? View attachment 835937 Click to expand... If it makes potato pancakes without the hassle Iâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;ll buy

15. Jan 26, 2018 #115

BladeScout 6,060 May 16, 2010

Grifter. About as pleasent as something you step in and then you have to scrape your shoes, so you dont drag it into the house.

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shinyedgesEvery man's intelligence is a godPlatinum Member

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BladeScout said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; Grifter. About as pleasent as something you step in and then you have to scrape your shoes, so you dont drag it into the house. Click to expand... I'd add, if that something you stepped in was covering a nail sticking up.

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BladeScout 6,060 May 16, 2010

shinyedges said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; I'd add, if that something you stepped in was covering a nail sticking up. Click to expand... ....and if you jump around holding said wounded and now smelly foot, you then step on a rake and smack your nose.

18. Jan 26, 2018 #118

danbotGold MemberGold Member 2,685 Oct 31, 2009

I wouldn't give him the time of day! ...Because he'd probably steal my watch!!

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jstnGold MemberGold Member 2,146 Jun 27, 2012

Mitchell Knives said: â&#x2020;&#x2018; There is no shortage of people with more money than sense. Con artists know this, and actively target them. Everyone seems to be interested in collecting trinkets that have no actual value. I used to joke that I should design a tactical spatula and sell it for $1,000. I actually feel like someone could do that now, and there would be a line of people online waiting to buy it. It would blow up on social media with the hashtag #spatulalife. Someone else would make a small fortune offering tactical spatula customization services. Every week I see a variety of new "knife fakers" online. They've never made a knife in their lives, and likely never will. They take pre-orders, farm the work out to others, and claim it as their own. They then waste all of their pre-order funds on jellybeans, and no one ever gets a knife or their money. This behavior is ruining the knife community and the perception of knife makers. Truly disgusting when you think about it.

Click to expand... To be fair, you never know when you might be cooking something in the kitchen and have a home invasion. If that happens you will owe your life to that tactical spatula...

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ChazzyPPlatinum MemberPlatinum Member 2,332 Dec 27, 2014

How did I miss this thread back in the day? I ended up liking lots of the older posts, but, honestly, discussing a blowhard and obvious shill like Skelton would be a waste of time if it wasn't such fun. I haven't gotten past a minute or two of any of his vids and wouldn't think of clicking on one again. I'm not interested in researching his unsavory past, but his attitude, shallowness, and touting of ridiculous knives do nothing to make one doubt that any claims against him aren't true. He gets my Triple-A Rating--go Away, you Absurd A-hole.

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