in darkness, there is no choice #5

AUTUMIV 2000 ISSUE l\o.5

IIY DARKIYESS, THERE IS NO CHOICE.

l PEPTLAFff SPF"IAL

WARMACHINE ATROCIOUS

AFTERMATFI

MADIYESS AXIOM

DIRT KISMET HC plus reviews I

etc"

IN DARKNESS, THERE IS NO CHOICE.

PORTTAND SFECTAL,

IANTHOMAS,4CUMBERDRTVE,WTLMSLOW,CHESHTRE'SK9 6DZ, UIC e-mail : ianinderkness@bun-com Thanks to : Frank, Rodney & Joel (ATROCIOUS MADNESS), Kelly (WAR MACHINE), Chris (ArTERMATII), Joel - again! (A)OOllO' Dave, Dfekt & Jan (KISMET HC), Rupe Stong Jess Spice for artrvorko All people who distro ihk zine- Flat Earth, Bald Cactus, Ruptured Ambitions, Active' Ripping Thrash, Heu & Damnation, scream Abont Nothing Thirsk Punk froieci Blackened Distribution, Land Of Treason, AII the zines I trsde with, steve Midwinter (good luck witt the zine), Fracture, EyerTone I write

to, AII thooe who send stuffitr for review and supportthls zine' t lud hopcd b g€t Oris issuc out in early Summer, thc 'protcction of the German consiotion" by but due lo dming a Dad agaiq Oings gor I eustoms authorities. Furthermore' it was charged liflle dclayod. t can't betieve tri'w tong its iaLcn dl8t ARMSTICE usEd a bear oa one o[ their me to do this issug the longesr yi 1"Uout 7 records that looks like Winnic the Pootr- Walt months).

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The legal defenee of 'Skuld' is-paramount' The charges will mean criminal pcnalties for 'Skuld"

in Exlitencc' have resurrected their zine. The soene but also give the German authorities and those and control' A has sorcly missed thesr and I for one welcome other countries the right to c'nsor guilq' r'erdicl will mean furdret mids on other tlrern becl widr open erms. Simply thc best labels and distributors, brsed on seizod inroices going. Long ouy tfuy lick at

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On l6th March 2000 'Skuld Releases' was raided by policc regErding chrges ofthe "use ofsymbols .iri""ry to tre Cerman-consritution', *illogal use of protccted copyigh' and "suspicion of ,rr shipmcnlEom Blackened Distribution "r"aio.r". wus sc$ched .na m" OOCre 7" 'Police Bas[rrd'

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WAR IVIACHINE

THIS LOT SHOULD BE MORE TILdN FAMILIAR TO LO\TRS Otr' AMERICAN CRUSTY PTINK, AS 3 OF THEM USED TO BE IN DETESTAIION. NOW WTTTI A NEW VOCALIST THEY HAVE A NEW MOMKER, BUT THE SAME OLD SOI.]]\D! THIS INTERVIEW WAS DONE WIIH KELLY. IHOWLONGHAYEWARMACHINEBEENGOINGANDWIIATAREYOUR INFLUENCES? That's kind ofa hard one, since % ofus had already been playing togethcr as DETESTATION for a few ycars. Basically, after the DETESTATION tour in Fall of '98, everyone except me and the si[gei wef,t home lo Portlrnd. Well, wc sort of had a 'frlling outi, you oould say, rnd it looked like we wrqr't golry to be able to be in the band togetlrer. Meanwhile, back in Portlan( Dom and Brian were getting tired of waiting for us to come home, so they sta(ed a project band with Kevin and Alex from the band AKOM and called it WAR MACHINE. When I finally arrived home, after 10 months oftravelling, Alex, the bassist, had just quit. This combined with all of us being in agre€ment as to how we felt about not doing DETESTATION or working with our old singer, gave us the perfect opportunity to move on as fiiends and work together, without hurting anyone's feelings by using the name DETESTATION. So, WAR MACHINE stuck.

2 . AFTER SAIRA. LEFT WIIY DID YOU CIIANGE THE

BAND'S NAME FROM DETESTATION TO 'TIIE

PRESENT ONE? WAS IT A CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO HAVE A N{ALE SINGER THIS TIME OR JUST CHANCE? Well, most of that wai rnsltecd in lhe la$ qucstion. Brrt, cctually, ws ncv€r made a cooscious effort t'o have a malc singer by working with f.cviq just as llve ncvcr made thc conscious decision to have a &mralc riogo Uy havin-g Saira in DETESTATION. Things jus worked out this *ay, and we all agreod tat it

Hterto cto6e thc old chapter with I nEIIl€ change and movc on 3 . ON YOUR 7" EP YOO COME ACROS,S AS BEING ALL DOOM AND GLOOM - ARE THINGS REALLY THAT BAD? IS THAT YOUR OUTLOOK ON LIFE AND THINGS IN rias

GENERAL?

wrote the lyncs to the Erst son& 'King For A Nighl', which is prctty much my- usual gloomy O.prJ*r"a f,ina of 6abbling. I go from one .*re.u to ano$rer cmotiomlly, and so most of my lyrics tad the most to icf,ect tlut Oaaty, tre odrer two wErE written by our guitaris! Brian, who 4 without a doubt ch,ecrfirl and unllappabte, happy go lucky guy I've cv€r met. Maybe he tapped some hidden wcllspring o{ angcr 6at *" nevli knew he-pqescssed. Seriously, he's usually so good natured that it's kind ofajoke his &iends. I just don't know what's gotten into him... maybe too much time spent in close

lonty

"nioogst quarters with me!

.i . ror_r_owrxc oN FRONI THAT, WHAT C.{\ \\.E DO TO 1\{AKE THINGS BETTER

BOTH SOCIALLY AND POLITTCALLY? IS AT\.\RCHY THE ANSWER OR IS IT 'ruST A DREAM OFUTOPIA? I really think that any' visions of rvidespread utopian anarcho wonderland bullshit are hopelessll' naive Wlnt we can do though, is strengthen ourselr es and our culture/community to the point u'here we can make our uorld. as insular and escapist as it can sometimes be' into the kind of communiq'that we can be happy existing in, The rest ofthe *orld is going to shit... but ue don't necessarily have to reflect

I don't have much hope for the'redemption oI mankind', and as the onlv segrnent ofsociety that has ever gilen me any kind of what I'd cgl I a sense of belonging or purpose has been the punk scene. l'm a lot more interested in working for change rvithin our

that in our culture.

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awall tryin$tosavetheworldforpeopletoola4',stupid.ori:.:i:::-.::l:-r3rllortlemselres 5 . RECENTLY WE'\,E HAD THE WTO DT}IOS I\ {\IERIC{ {\D THE, J18 DE\IOS IN ENGL.+\D. DO YOU THINK THESE DEMOS ACHIE\T .\\\THI\G OR DO THEY JUST AI"IENATB THE GENERA.L PUBLIC FROM OLR STRT CCLE? It's really hard to say, as there u'as a tremendous amounr of pub)rc sup:o- ib; tlre \\-TO protesters. I thir* that the media even did it's part, perhaps inadvertentlr. to make 'the n:zr' iook lrle shit to some extent. There are still a lot ofmisconceptions that the general public has atout tle hou and uhr' ofthe whole WTO thing, a lot of 'anarchist trouble makers' sort ol anirude It s sh;t. somelimes. and quite frusrating. You can make all the noise in the world, and in a con:-mrctir e and demonstrative manner, and people still don't fucking get it Mayb€ tley never will.

5 . WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE ANTI-PC BRIG.{-DE? IL{\T \\I MT TOO SERIOUS ABOUT PLNK AND WIIAT IT CAN ACHIEVE OR DOES IT IL{\T TO BE POLITICAL TO BE WORTI{WHILE AND STOP PLTNK BECOMN{G Jf ST A,\OTHER SUB-CULTLRE? Tfrcre's two ends to every spectrum, and in the case of the PC issue both sides can be totalll, boring and useless. I'm almost 30 years old, and I don't need to run around acting lrlie an asshole just to get sttmtion. This isn't kindergarten an)'more, and an-v asshole that thinlis they're just the coolest, most ofrnsive thing since GG AILIN b1'eating a hamburger or say'ing "bitch" in front of me needs to grow up end get B fucking life. On the other hand, the humourless "I'm much too deeply embroiled in the complex issres facing humani[ to have any fun..." crowd bore me to tears as well, I don't know. I leamed long ago thar there are few better ways to lose friends and alienate people than to be an arrogant, preaching asshole. I have my politics and my code of ethics, and while mv values are pretty consistent, I try not to be so rigid that I can't grow and learn. Any kind of self categorisation, wtrether it's to fit the rigid mould of'humourless anarcho punk' or the childish, contrived bullshit ofthe 'anti political ste€t punk' is, as fir as I'm concemed, the complete opposite ofthe kind of independent thioking and alternative community building that I've always felt were among tlre most important ele[rents ofthe punk scene.

7 .I(ELLY, YOU'\TE BEEN Di LOADS OF DIFFERENT BANDS OVER THE YEARS, \ITIAT KEEPS YOU ACTNT? DO YOU HAVE AIIY INTERESTS OUTSIDE OF PLTNK? I have a lot of interests outside of the punlt scene.., I also love hardcore, thrash, grind, crust... just kidding...

Yeah, I guess I've kind o{ as my Aiend Ste's wife said, "been thror.tgh the punk scene like a bad case ofthe figs!"

I guess that I really love to play music, and like I said earlier, this is the only segrnent of socicry* that has ever given me a sense of purpose or belonging. I'm comfortable *ithin this culture... tkough punk I've seer so many parts of the *'orld most people never see, it has put me in contact with the most wonderful and beautiful people that I could evcr hope to meet, and it has defnitely put me in some interesting, though not always comfortable, situations. It takes all my money and leads me to live a stressful, sometimes self destructive lifestl'le that is destroying my body and mind, but I really thinli that in the end I'll really be able to look back and say " Fuck ... I LIVED!" I have a lot of interests outside ofwhat many people would call punli, but to me they're all interconnected wifh my core ideologies and ideals. I love to read, to leam, to cook. I love to observe the world around me. I love to urite in my joumals, and I'm compiling materral for a zine which, in all likelihood witl nev€r come out I believe in selfrealisation, selfeducation. and pushing myselfto do and be everything possible, to go everywhere and to do everghirg, to live life to it's absolute fullest Punk as fuck.

8 . YOU RfIN 'CONCENSUS REALITY RECORDS" \\I{AT'S THE GENERAL RT]NNING OFA LABEL LIKE A,r\D \\IHAI MAI(ES YOU DECIDf \\TI4.T RECORDS TO PUT OUT?

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oace described 'Concensus Reality' as an entifJ- *hich had taken over my time, my life, and my ap{rtsnent, but still refused to pa}, rent. Well, after a lot of fighting. I've managed to some}vhat tame the bea-*, and now it's relegated to a feu'boxes in my storage unit I love doing the label, but it's hard to operate it \r'hile pursuing m] Iatest hobby, that ofbeing a wandering drunken lunatic. I plan to continue the labet, but I've realll cut back My latest release was the WAR MACHINE ep, and at pres€nt I have no plans to release anylhing else Maybe something will como up, though... you can't kil this thing that easily!

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At firsl I onty *'anted to release records b1' mv oun ball,I. trecause most of the tinrc rle would get fucked by the label, or else the label wouldn't put any interest ir distributron or advertising meaning I'd get a PO box ofletters saying "I can't find your records an1'*here ..''. So I said frrck it. I'll do it my orvn label.

As time went on, I started releasing records for m1 friends' bands, and for bands that I thought were cool and desened to have a record put out for them. I h:r'e never cared in the slightest about how many -name .,- I never bothered to ask established bands i1 records a band would sell, or ifthe band was a big they wailted to do records on my label, preferring to rrork *,ith bands that I thought were as good, ifnot better, than the well knorvn bands but had just never had the chance to put out a record. The most important element for me in picking a band was ho\\, I felt about a band as people, and I've never put out a record for a band solell'on the basis ofa demo received in tlre mail.

All ofthe bands that I've released records for I've knovm at least one member of bcfore I agred to work with them. Sometimes I hed a long and cool fi-iendship with, as in the cases of BLACII KRONSTADT or Atr{NESTY, and some were just loctit drinking pals, like OBLITERATED or DECREPIT. But, the bottom line is, I believe whether it's with my band working with another label, or with another band rvorking to release a record on my label tat it's very important to have some kind of relationship between the band and the label. None ofthis impersonal production is punk, this is our lives, this is our soul.

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9. WHAT PLANS HA\T YOU GOT FOR THE FUTL'RE? It's hard to say wbat will happen in the future. In August I'll be moving to Germany for a'w{rile, who knows how long. what this means as far as wAR MACHINE, I don't know... I guess we'll keep going, either with me on bass, or with someone else. We're atl pretty busy with other shit right now... Kevin lives in Seattle, and Brian is talking about spending time in Europe as well.

Personally, for me the band has to take a back seat to other, more important parts ofmy life, and I'm kind of in a travelling, soul searching period right now. Yeah, sounds com,v, but I'm still tryingto figure out who I am and what the fuck l'm doing... I guess right nou l'm concentraiing on the upcoming US tour for WOLFPACK that I've organised, and on the A)flOM (my other band) LP that witl .be recorded right before I leave. Then it's offto Europe for a while, and who knows fiom there. But if you see me, buy me a beer and give me some encouragement. I'll need it.., 1O . AI.{Y THOUGHTS/COMMENTS? Thanks for the interview, Ian. It was my first ever over the Internet. Ifanyone wants to reach us, or me they can via real mail: 1951 lilest Burnside' #1654 Portland, Oregon, 97209' USA. or via e-mail : kellymofxo@hotmril.com Brian and Dom can be reached at'this e.mail address: detestrtion@hotmail.com

MY INTRODUCTION TO PUNK. I

to the world of punli rock was no doubt the same as many others. was beginning 1o quickly tire ofheary and thrash metal and by 1995 I had discovered bands like the PISTOLS, CLASH, lr.1!' rntroduction

DGLOITED and many more.

\ms ecstatic when I heard on the radio that the PISTOLS rvould be reforming for a rvorld tour and Finsbury Park was to bâ‚Ź one ofthe venues. Here was the chance to see the band that had unleashed the punk movement to the world. Myselfand a fiiend bought trckets for it and prepared ourselves for what u'e thought $as to bâ‚Ź the greatest festival in history. We were *rong.

Thousands and thousands ofpeople arrived at the park and preople were placing themselves around the venue enjoying the sun and the tunes from the huge on'stase p.a.

-.{s the day went on and the PISTOLS performance rvas edgrng closer the atmosphere sta(ed to get worse.

Cases ofviolence began to break out fiom certain pans oftl.e crowd and t'hen the PISTOLS eventually' jiom the outskirts o{ torhered themselves to come on the place erupted. Thel kicked offu'ith 'Bodies' and the park I could see that dowr the front was complete chao.. B1'the time that the third song 'New York' had staned we were already on our way home.

Ifrhere had been any punk uniq'that day tlren we'd seen ven'lrttle ofit.

Tuo months later I rvas given a record to bonorv, 'The Feeding Of The 5000' by CRASS. \1r knotledge ofthem had been pretty non-existent ul1 until that point' what I heard had seriousl;' o'ened m).e-ves unlike an.vthing else before or since Inielligent lyrics about war, society. religion and

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r Finilly hctc vas a band that were issuing p+oph nrth something that everybody else had ming to 0o. A poeirivc and oonstructive elrcrnative.

F.verythingfiomthe CSCSShip6a6dtomeaoompletelydifleecntvisionofwhatpralir:a)li'uas p"y * 1no* dten e34O' slogan on the cover to the album rericr*: on the insidc- Their sincerity was

plenty motc, Ueer

insmtly provcn b I

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mo.

lraIsdwhrt prnk was really all about. It wasn'tJust

rnyding that you

a case of being confined to music' it was

it to be. Art, po€try, a way of life, a way of thinling and you didn't have to

"ooeipqssas by' to prove younel{, 'firck s mod' or'dcchoy qell. CONFLICT, Discov6inr CRASS hid dtro td ro io discorc. many otter like minded hnds as onr, nrrlisx lcoNs or HLTI{, CHUMBAWAMBA (RI.P.) alli SUB$l!4lF: I havobc.o frrturto cmonch to hovo wihessed Steve lgoraot's STRATFORD MERCENARIES on two occrsions atrd m art ahfri]ion by Goc Vauchcr- Both wcrc I frrtastic cxpcrienoc aod.r*hat tbe movemeat of the da*ncss is all about. Cn ISS ncrnii tfrc most vitat band that cvcr exiged. A bard] that stcpPod oot that and said ufrat notody d* rvrs preparod to say. A brnd that had built trc bundatirons for a movemcot sdll rtrnaim bday. did it with Thousands took io the stage and screamed "Anarohy and Freedom", only a percentago ever total passion and conviction. CRASS romain the leaders ofthe p€rc€ntage' ,{NOKAND PEACE. RI]PE STONE.

AFTERMATH ABA}IDwTrtlANEX-MEMBERoFRESISTTHATCOMBINES METALWITHFURIOUSD-BEATS,TIIEY'VEJUSTRELEASEDA DEMO, So CIIECK TIIEM oUT. TIIIS INTERVIEW wAS DoNE WTIH CHRIS. I.HowLONGHAVEYoUBEENGoINGAND\ITIATAREYot]RINFLUENCES?

we started playing together since the beginning of 98, with a differont drummer and another guitarist, play wth tre intentioo of t iA a metal band;-howevir, we couldn't keep that together, so we decided to punk. We definitely still have some metal elements in our music though. And, of course, lots of d-beats.

2 . A LOT OF PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK THAT

IF YOU'RE INTO P[]NK YOU CAII'T LIKE METAL. DO YOU SUBSCRIBE TO THAT THEORY OR DOf,S METAL HAI'E SOMf, THING TO OFFER PT]NK?

I guess I kind of answered that already... I was a ..t l-h*d long before I was a punk, so I'm gonna have some bias on this one. I got into punk in the mid,4ate

80's through bands like DRI, CORROSION

OF CONFORMITY, etc. the whole 'crossover' thing' YealL a lot of good bands did turn to shit because of it, but there were some metal-heads (tike me) who got into punk in more than a zuper'fieial way, and became politicised due to that Musically, I guess you like what you likq but you're alwals goona have purists who don't *ant an)1hing to change.

3 , CARRYING ON FROM THAT, WHAT

DO

YOU I\I.{KE OF THESE SO CALLED 'FASCIST' BL.{CK TIETAL BANDS. ARE BURZUM AS N{UCH AS A THREAT AS CERTAIN RIGTIT.WINGSKII\'HEAD BANDS? TS THERE }IUCH OFANAZI THREAT IN TIIE U.$? i too* tr"t *oplc of yars a!o,RAHOWA (hsci$ band from the states) Played the Milwaukee Metal " mfi pfayi it,..l *a I hcard they were openly passing-oy h*ry literatun. Most of iott,fr" eameyc; that thcrc is enough Ure mc6t+eaas I'vo krrrrn-haven'i bum potiticised as sucll and I don't know to Sp0rk mudl of a ChSS.€onsciousrcss in thc metel sccne tlet organisod fiscists 8re Solng to be able goverilncnt. Tlry've moycmcrrl ttrere. Ttrcre&a fr$is1 thrcat h fG U.S., but it comes more Aom our

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beenlpretty successf,ul at convincing the public that th+'need to 'protect' us from eco+terrori$s, drug dealers, anarchists or whatever. Lots more cops, lots more prb,ons.

4 . I'VE HEARD THAT CERIAIN OUITSPOKEN I34YP5 IN AIVTERICA GET A LOT OF "SHUT I(JP AIID PL.A}'" SHOUTED AT THEM .{T GIGS. ARE .A.FTERMATH POLItrICAI

.AI{D WHAT[}'O YOU MAKE OFTHE.ANTI-PC BRIG. .DE? It's not as much of a problcm in Pontan( but I've definitelv come across i1 else*trere in ithelstates. ltr'rye been irwolved in confrontations with people at gigs uho will say sonreltring really dodry arrd then get defemive when they're celled,on it. I 6ink that in some cases people get to a point whore they think ttrey're above criticism, an{l in other cases you're just dealing with people who really don't give a fuok about wtrat you're talking about,,andjudt want to hear some rock.

5 . DO I'OU THII{K INTf,RNET ONLY ZIN-[,S ARf, A GOOD IDEA OR IS TT'TOO I-IMITING AS MOStr PIJNKS DON'tr HA\T ACCESS TO T[tE NET,,OR IS IT TIXE \\'AY f.ORWARD? I persona,lly am against net-only zines, becauselit is a bit prdhibitive asito wtrc has acoess rto it. And ufltil we rall have llaptops or palmtops or whatwer, it's nice to ltrave ra couDle of zines with you when you're travelling, I've never lodked atrany web zines, butiitjust like you can p€rsonalise a print zine a lot more thaD you can a web zine. For just gefting.,out infor.mation, the Intemet is great, but for a piece of expressiorq it kind o{ seems

frlls short.

6 . IN THE [JK THER[,'S Q{'ITE AN

ACTIVE ANIN{AL RIGHTSIMOVIMENT.'WH,{,T'S ilT LIKE

IN A]\{ERICA? ARE MANY AMERICAI{ PINKS VEGETARIAN? A lot of American punks are vegans, ias well as a lot who are vegetarians. there is definitdly ran animal rights movement over here, and I think there is a lot more awareness ofjust how shitty meat:and animal products are for your health. Ofrcourse, a lot of peopte justrgive up red meat or r*tatwcrrstrictly fsr ftreritth reasons, and not out,ol any reel concera or respect for animals, and there is still a long rrvsy to go as far as viviis€ction, hunting etc.

7 .I'VE JUST HEARD "PROFANE EXISTENCE' ARE TO RISTART IDOXNG'IIIE ZINE. IS THIS A GOOD SIGN FOR THE SCENE? HAS IT BIEN MISSI]D DLTRING ifHE 18 MONTHS THEY STOPPED DCING[T?

I

honedtly didn't read PE that rnudh, but it obviously had a huge irlflusnce onpurik,duning the'90's, and *as a good resource, 'not ooly for learning about bands and music, but about political and,social ,movements around fte world. If it continues in drat direction, wtich I assunre itu,ill, then that is good,

8 . O\ER HERE CERTAIN

'BUSINESSMEN' ARE IUAKI\G MONEY OUT OF PLN}C \\.HAT DO YOU TTIfNK OF THESE RIP-OFF MERCII. .NTY It kind of makes listening to 'The Feeding Of Iihe 5000' a Litsle less meaningful whor you can buy a

CRASS shirt at tlre mall. I donlt know if you are refening to,tre real- big-time businessrnen such as,major or the so catled 'DIY' businessmen *'ho charge exorbitant prices lfor gigs, or put out records and ripoffthe bands and such. They're all ba-stards, ofoourse, one group isjust a bit more h1'pocritical than the other.

9 . \,TIIAT PLI\NS HAVE YOU C/OT FOR THE FT]TTiRE? Nothing beyond teaching our new drummerrthe s€t and playing gigs sometime this summer, hopefully.

Eventually doing anollrer recording.

0lzibels. magazine$,etc.,

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ANY THOUGI{TSICOMNTENTS?

Than]<s a

lot for the ;nterest, I've spouted enough cliches tbr nou',

so I'11 stop,

-{FTERMATH, 123 NE Fremont, Porthnd,OR 97212. USA. -A-FTERMATH's demoLis available for S3 U-S. $5 *'orld.

Hopefulty it'll bereleased asaI-PICD wilh.extra tracks r:thar were recorded atthe sametime) on,it in dre near future, so look out for that.

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ATROCIOUS MADNESS

A BRUTALLY NOISY BAND THAT ARE INTLI,ENCED BY CoNFUSE,

GAIAIIDSKITSLICKERS.SIIoRTSoNGSTIT{TASSAULTTHE

sENsEsINAwAYNoTHEARDSINCE.SCIIM,ERANAPALM AND DEATH. TIIIS INTERVIEW WAS DONE WITII FRAI\'IE RODNEY JOEL.

I.HOWLONGIIAVEYOUBEENGOINGAND\\ILA.TAREYOT]RINFLUENCES? influenced by playing shows fo. oto,rnd two(??) years. I'd like to think we are

JOEL: I think we,ve

been

GAtfZE!d@NFI'

SE.

sound of the lapanese' Swedish and BODI\IEY: Atout 3 Ytars. We t-y to capture tho raw, fust, distorted

Finnish styles-

FRANK: Orieimlly lt was mg Ro4 loel, Chstrl Guitar) and

our Saira (guiiar), Odt'Ssira movcd to Gerfirsdy tnd tE-sd(od nied'iloppi to 6ll in 6r a n6il0. He cventuelly bccame

he is thc only ooe bqsidc Joel that actnlly oouiomemtl Ycah, obviously v€ arc inb old i"J,rc* gud, but do a lot df thc Deuler $reshy, trobc style srouos ftom lamn: LIFE. GLOOlt4 DEFUSB FRAMTID'

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MUCH AWARENESS? the awareness level goes up' R: yeah t think it reatty does. The more the info gets out there the more , it has raised around a thousand conceivably so just been repressd F: The viskms ofHell ' 7" has who is dealing with the money dollan so fir- I'm not quite .u.. ,Lr"" it is Neit, who does fribal War, thirrk that anlthing with I definitelv not. *,trat and tecnrds_ fot unpaid some still u." th... ;;G. 1,.-** and info and thinking lyrlcs the is reading Someone isdrre. specific awareness about it's ;;**;;;b"" that is a big topic in the punk about itl At lesst I would hope *. Wfttt soilething like aniinal rights Obviously that's rtot the case when purlks in scene, people might thinf< Uat Jvefone hab heqrd it already. just to be said again and dgain. It's always hlce to has King.

It Burgel going into are CONFLICT t-$ins of camaraderie add ehcourddes people to good sen.e givo a tt io, o["" rp""ting yori. viiws as *jt.

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games, movies and in some ways brod it can be looke,d at as a good thing: comPuters, Intemet, mcdicel andrfiet no! but ohl the dart sidel and quilc a bit of stAtc 0f 0lo sI1 corhputer i: modcm tahologr is oompletely scary. I uso the lnternetand wond is a little too much 6r me' I don't dlgvcm1t e,.ty on ,or.ooc gcar, hrt to ddnk Vou. to sPy on them at ell times that ttat it hasil citireL i;s rhintr r snart governtrent **fJiiU "Uiilty kind of moairrhg is a realitY. paranoid is tho only way F: I.vc ocv€r hrd of lhis tagging cmployees thing but I'm not surprisedl Being privacy, thcto is-somahing wrong' I ani of &eedom h& Lripf.t" t" U ff Voo.r. "onicd;bq;t " dr'ink is nutty conspincy theorics is-all t11c' lffould you rerlly put "otmosl of *frai pooplc hds fn tf* Sm[ die Humane Soci.ty 1"rttt ufes homeless animrls offthe frpets) p*, of all animals thal come irq for futuro identificrlion and tttt 1ipi*are microchips tttp to Oo it to the popllation with conscnt or not Nev6 go to the Oe togi.af it

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YOU THINK THAT THIS IS WHAT GO\ER\\IfNTS ARE UP TO OR IS IT A FIGNTENT OF HOLL\NVOOD'S IMAGINATION? J: Never seen the movie, but there are satellites that can monitor you within a certain amount of yards anywhere on the planet.

R: Of course that is what they are up to: CIA, FEI\'IA. FBI, DOF etc... and the shadow government that is all over the world will try everything.

F: I've never seen it either but I think 6lms like that ard the X-Files (which I love by the way) are being used as entertainment to try to defuse the idea ofconspLrary, Hollyvood is completely run by the military/ government. They wouldn't let any'thing out that *'asn t approved. Filmmakers will come up with all tbe men in black, corspiracy, alien aMuction scenarios thry can because they know that is what will sell and so does the govcflrment, lrho would rather have people obeessing over spy satellites and mind implants than actually doing something about it or noticing thar rhey are still dumping duoride in our water, and sfip mining the ocâ&#x201A;Źans. Not to say that any of these Hollpvood ideas aren't true, but that is what people want and it is a safe distraction.

The govemments of the world are up to anything thq,can to control and pacifr the masses. Including mind control and physical control.

IN THE 8()'S JELLO BL{FRA USED TO TALK A LOT ABOUT CHRISTIAN FT]I{DAMENTALISTS. ARE THESE PEOPLE/GROTIPS STILL ABOUT AND ARE THEY STILL THR[,AT? 5

R: I think there will always be religious groups trying to use 'divine' right and word to manipulate pebple into their own way ofthinking. It's going to be a problem as ldng as humanity is around.

J: They are still out there (have you seen those chick Comics?) but in some ways the fundamentatist aspect is going away, but is being replaced by new age crap. This is all nice and cheery and forgetting all the shit that is really in there.

fying to make god and the bible

seem

F: Yeah, this is the age of enlightenment man! No, the religious right has defuritely lost it's mainsfeam hold. I think it has a lot to do with the Reagan era, when most of the great punk songs were written.

Tipper Gore was big around that time with her'Moral Ma-iority' shit but hasn't said a fucking word since her husband entered the *'hite house as this liberal loving guy. A lot of that stuff has become more extreme and underground. There is the 'Promise Keepers' (all male, homophobic, christian bigots who think that women should be in the kitchen..) ttro fill huge arenas with their kind, but you don't see them on TV espousing their views too often since most people thilk they're scum. Here in Portland we'vd got the Oregon Citizens Alliance. They went bankrupt a few years ago trying to pass some anti-gay law. Ha ha! But word has it they're tying for a comeback. Overall it's just not seen as much as it used to be. It's the new millonnium where's your crystal?

6 , WHAT'S THE SCENE IN PORTLAND LIKE AND DOES IT REFLECT AMf,RICA IN GENERAL? IS IT POLITICISED OR ARE PEOPLE JUST IN IT FOR THE 'tr'ASHION'?

R: A lot of good bands, not a lot ofstable places to have shows though. It's got a lot ofrestaurants and bookstores and is close by to nice beaches and mountains.

J: Portland is not really like the rest ofAmerica as frr as the punk scene goes, there is definitely lots oI frshion, but it has a committed group of people working to make shows and political demonstationq it's a good scene. There are tons ofpunks moving here ever5'month.

F: Yeah, the last show I went to I only recognised a feu people, everyone else was new to town! I think Portland is very different from most places in the States. Yes, very frshionable, and lots of different groups ofpunks. There is a strong political aspect to the scene that a lot ofother cities don't seem to haveA lot of punks are involved with an animal rights group called 'Liberation Collective', w{ro have done a lot of things in the past, all the 'Food Not Bombs' have pu n-[i involvement and there are a mtmber of other organisations that punks are involved with; workers rigJrs. Zapista support, books to prisoners, womens health... I've just sta(ed with an adult literacy programme. Hopper helps with'Food Not Bombs' and

Chanel does

a tutoring programme for

Russian immigrants. Lots

of

bands

too! A)ilOM,

FLARLIN.I-SCARUM, AFTERMATH, DEATHCTLARGE. REI\.IAINS OF THE DAY... but again not too many places to play.

7 . IS IT IIARD BEING A Dry BAND AND GETTL\G }'OLTR RECORDSA{ESSAGE OUT TO

TIIE MASSES? EVER THINK YOU'LL BE TE}IPTED TO DO WHAT DISRUPT DID AND SIGN TO A LABEL LTKE RELAPSE? R: DIY is the only way to go! I see no need to sign to a bi,e label. Barcodes suck!

F: Mark of the beas! I have absolutely no desire to put an)lhing out on a big label. No one into that shit cares about the lyrics an).way. All meaning becomes roid *'hen you're being sponsered by weapons

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manufacturers and animal killers. Sre have no trouble distroing our records, the underground DIY distro syndicate is very strong. We tr-l'to include a lot of info and hal'e lyric sheets at sho\ir's to make sure that people can get what we are saying.

J: No, I've never been iempted b1, a large label. I thinli if a.band went and tried to present their politics on a large scale nowadays (like CHUMBAWAMBA) nobody' is Iistening to what they are talking about. I feel we have a very apathetic culture going on. DISRLTPT are more known for their music than politics, after they broke up. I don't think signing up is a reasonable way to get your mess{lge out. People pay more attention on a personal, DIY scale.

7' IS CALLED 'THE USES OF IL{ARP' FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, COULD YOU EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT HAARP IS? R: When I fust heard about it I didn't think something hke that could exist. But alas it does. It is the 8 . YOUR NEW

ultimate multitask take over!

F: Ok, the HAARP ( High-fiequency Active Auroral Research Program) is located deep in Alaskan bush country and is sai( by the U.S. Govemment, to be used for the study ofthe ionosphere and wind pattems ofthe upper atrnosphere. There is something about the no(hem lights that they say too, but it's atl just a cover for what the real uses of it are. It's desigrr is based offthe stolen patents of Nicola Tesla, who invented the radio among

to produce ball lightening, earthquakes and is rumoured to have caused the Tunguska fireball which destroyed an entire hillside.

Tesla is a r*,hole other story though. It is capable of other things, was able

jamming global communications systems (it already effects the HAM radios, the lifeline for many who live in this remote area, and airlines have been advised to fly clear of it), weather contol (something which is

currently happening), disrupting human mental processes including total mind control and interfering with animal migration patterns ( this has been observed since it was first activated). These things are just the tip of it's full capability. The whole history of it is very shady as well. Supposedly a civilian operation, but there has been a healy military and NASA involvement with it since the begiming. That is just the basic story. These types of electomagnetic warfrre have been going on for years! This is just the technic perfected. There are two excellent books on it so far: 'IIAARP - fntimate Wepon of the Conspirary' by Jerry E Smith and 'Angels Don't Play This HAARP' by Jeanne Maming and Dr. Nick Begich. A lot of the web sites are run by the military and are just a bunch of shit about it's advantages. These are the same people that will tell you about the advantages ofnuclear weapons and atomic power.

9 . I KNOW YOU LOVE SCI-FI FRANK, IS IT AN ESCAPE FROM REALITY OR DOES IT

HIGHLIGHT POSSIBLE FUTT]RE SCENARIOS.

i,e. SOILENT GREEN? J: It's botfi an escape fiom reality and a possible future, The best Sci-Fi are the altemate futures. 'Planet

of the Apes', 'Terminator', 'Omega Man', 'Soilent Green', you get the point.

R: There are so many great Sci-Fi books and movies that deal with a lot ofthe fears and paranoia ofthe coming computer age and craziness ofthe 50's.

F: I don't even know where to start. Ok, sure, it's an escape just like reading anything is. However it is definitely the most thouglrt provoking fictional style of uriting. A lot of the possible futures of Philip K Dick, Rob€rt Heinlein (even thouglr he's a bastard!) are coming true! Read 'The Sheep Look Up'by John Brunner, it is the epitome of the'doomed future' scenario and has almost completely come to pass. This was written in the 60's and talked about genetically engineered food and health companies providing 'organics' at absorb€nt pric€s, among other things. This is the story that influenced such great films such as'Zero Population Groqth', ' Soilent Green', 'The flltimate Warrior', along *ith a slew of ryberpunk authors. Brumer uas friends with CRASS too. The thole cyberpunk thing has become a self fulfilling prophecy, because the people who read Science Fiction are the people who are designing the future. All the William Gibson, Neil Stephenson, Bruce Sterling stuffwas the vision of our future. Also, Sci-Fi has an enorrnous amount offemale authors who have wriften some ofthe b€st in the genre. Ursula K Leguin had the best vision of an anarchist society I've ever read< 'The Dispossessed'. This should b€ mandatory punk reading along u'ith '1984', 'Brave Ne*'World' and 'This Perfect Day'. All of which were considered Sci-Fi *ten thel' were first released. Go read Joanna Russ's 'The Female Man' and 'The Adventures of AJyx' along rvith an1.1hing by James Tiptree Jr. (*rote under a mans name in the 50's and

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60's to keep herselfa secret from her Pentagon employ'ers) for some excellent feminist Sci-Fi! The first on scre€n fulterracial kisses were in 'Star Trek' and 'The omega Man'. Look at 'Red Dwarf a toial mixed , c"{ Nq hmcthing that you s€s in your average i*EsteEL Ttat was all totally boring I'm sure. But as I said, thdkcs you ftink morc about human interacrion and our future tlun any otherform of writing or it film and ['r usually much morc inrcrcsting.

TO . TN HRITAIN THERE IS A BIG RE}TT'AL L\ OLD 8O'S PI.JNK BAI{DS - GENERALLY

TltEy Affi) so CALLED .pLtiK B(:SImSSMEN'CAN MAKE. IS TTIE SAMT IIAPPENING IN AMERICA? DO YOU TIINK IT'S WRONG TO MAKE JUST Fp,R HE MONTY

uorn{,tursuvr

J: I don't loe il h Amcrica as much as I've heard ebout all the otd punk bands tom thc uIC Ifpeople *ant to piir large amouols of money to soe bands that sre out of rirucn then th€y are welcomc to thc $ilhdlc. I don't think t could do I totrr solely br monoy-, it would have to bc for firn.

Fr Tlicfe rre bands ftat try it herc in thc Stat€s but I don't give it much thought. Of course it has absolutoly no mcaning rnymotE and is *rictly an erterteirmeat/no*algia thing, bur I'm not surr if I nould *adt !o see some hvourite band that meant so much to me to climb up on srage atrd kill some old songs. MaJ,be for free and there are some bands I would love to see regardless. But it's a total scam and "Punk rtas heant for the punks, not the businessmen.."!

R: I don't feaUy ke€p tack. l1 . wnAT pr-ANS HAyE yOU GOT FOR THE FUTURE? R:.Tdql dl9 record.

Fl as So<in {s Chanel comes back fiom Eastem Europe we have to record something like 20 songs! A split cassette *ls I'vtASS SEPAILATION (Malaysia), 7" on FFT label (Japan), possible 7,' on 'wictir witctr' and a curplo other as yet unconfirmed projecs. there should be a split 7" with wrry? (ex- RESULT, Iapan) dnd anolher with EPEIARIESTYS from Finland. We'd love to tour, especially Japan!

J: Wc d{f'f plan for the firturc, we are the fuhtre!

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R: Brian J: Resd tThe Authority', it's the best comic book to come out in years!

F: Thanks a lot for the interview, Sorry if I rambled. Anyone interested in HP Lovcc-raft or a heavy discusion on the meris ofSci-Fl drop us e linc. You can g€i our lyricsi tapes, rooords etc... tom us as

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ATROCTUUS MADNESq pO Bor d0ll3, porrtrnd OR, 972{0-01 13, USA.

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a vict[us cRUsTy METAL prJtrK BAryD oF A mcrrr,y por,rrrcAr, NATU4F. VERY TyprCAL OF THE U.S. SCEITE AT TEE MOMENT, BTIT PROBABLY EVEN MORE INTEIYSE AI\TD OI]"TSPOKEN TIIAN TEE REST. CIIECK OI.IT THEIR RECENT 12" EP IF' YOU DON'T BELIE\T,E ME! THIS INTERVIEW WAS DONE WTTH JOEL. I . HOW I.DNG HA!'E A-XIOM Bf,f,N GOING AND \IEAT ARf, YOIJR INFLUENCES? A)0OM blte been playing shows sinoe around 1996, *e stsrted esdier that year and played our first shotr't iF

lle las months of iL We have always

soLFfsbK

been inlluencod by Scandinavian hardcore, LJNCURBED,

ANT|-CIMEX DTSFEAR rnd bands like DooM, HELLBASTARD. HTATUS,

NAPALM DEATH, and classics like SLAYER and other old speed metal bands.

YOU s,EtM TO HAVE Q(nTE A METAL EDGE TO yorrR souND. DoEs THIS CAUSI, PROBLf,T{S $'ITII PI,]NKS? DO YOU Gf,T M,T\1' }IETALHEADS AT YOUR GIGS AND DO THEY LISTEN TO YOT]R MESSAGE? B;e do play a bil morc mctal than many of our peers, but thar just reflects what kind of music vr'e grew up sidr and *ere inspirod by. I think there are quite a feu punli puritans out there that are turned offby ca3l. but it's not a problem to us, we don't have to have even,one like our music as long as it's *hat we :nlo1 playing. We don't get many metalheads at our grgs. I think we still have too many elements of punk our son$s to attract that many metal dudes. Everyone I har e met in the underground metal scene in San irarcisco and Portland seems to dig our music and can appreciate that we have a message and meaning.

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3 . AXIO}I ARE \T,RY POLITICAL, DO

YOU SUFFER FROM THE ANTI-PC BRIGADE AND THEIR "I HATE POLITICS" ABUSE? IS BEING PC SUCH A CRI}'IE AND IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF PT]I{K L]NITY?

Every show we play there ate hecklers ofthe anti-PC caste that hate having to listen to the explanation ofour lyrics before each song. I think it's important to explain the meaning behind your songs or at least hand out r ly, ic sheet. How is anyone going to be inspired or challenge your ideas ifthey don't know what you are singing about?

I don't care if people choose to not listen to our politics because I don't believe in forcing people to change their minds, just presenting them with information and a good stance on life and let them come to their own conclusions.

I think moet prnks think just becausc a baod hss t politicel mesage they arc trying to got up on a podiurt and tcach the class and lec*ure cvcryone like liule kids. That's not thc case with ug Soonc unity could be accornplishod ifc\rEryone nrculd opsr up their minds. Pcople ofa political soene and 'snti-Pc' soerrc nccd to open up their cars and lisfen to cach othcr, not butttcads and label and classi$ cach othcr. Being PC or uti-potitiol b not a crime at all, just don't foroe rnyhing down each othcrs throats. I lhinl tho $Iolst way to spread a mcssago is to tell people wtrat to doand how to live their lives.

4 . IN TIIE SONG .VIRTUAL WASTE' YOU COM[, ACROSS AS TECHNO-PHOBES, IS MODERN TECHNOLOGY REALLY THAT BAD? OR IIAS IT'S USES BEEN PER!'ERTED?

We would be huge hypocrites ifrng were such techno-phobes seeing how this intervicw is being conducted via the Intemet. bclieve tecdnologr is useful in our prEs€nt day and age and can bo put towards good use, it'sjust like rny iovcation ofMaotln4 we tena to use our creations to desroy and plurrder tbc Earth and each other. Tlri idea of having a cndo 6r a Dame end bcing monitorod your wtole Ii& in a maallic computcr run fururo seems like a possibiliry I woutd like to avoid, just us,l things in modoratioq don't becomc dcpcndant on computers (lhcra I go dling you how to livo your life again...).

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I

am certain other members of AXIOM have the

6 . I'\'E IIEARD ABOUT VARIOUS MILITIAS SPRINGING UP ALL OVER AMf,RICA.

\\qAT

ARE THEIR IDEALS AND ARE THEY A THREAT?

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Most Militias in the U.S. I know about are frscist and well trained and armed. Once again have little information on the srbjcct I would guess that any kind ofannod organisation in the U.S. Poses little threat to the U.S. militrry rnd government, take the case ofDavid Korestr, if his compound had so many guns and ucapons, they didn't do very well against Fodcral Agents.

i . a1rrncgo puNK 5EEMS To BE PoPtlIj,R IN AMERT6A TIIE

PTJNKS CLUED UP OR IS

THREAT OR JUST ANOTHER SUBCULTT]RE? Anarcho punli is a really popular fashion in the U.S. because the music is pretty universal, not too experimental or weird for the punk rockers out there. I guess you could call anyone with studs and black T-shirts or patched up pants and denim jackets anarcho punk, I don't knou, ho* much of a fishion it is as compared to anlthing else in the punli scene, like emo, hardcore,'77, I would gather that more punlis into anarcho punJ< are politically motivated than not, but that could be considered frshion as well. I think it's more likel;' punlis into anarcho punli are clued Ln due to the fict most of ttre music they listen to has a political message, like CONFLICT. AUS-ROTTEN, etc. Whether it's just regurgitating what you hear or forming your own opinions, I would have to finally stop b€ating around the buming bush and sa1'that anarcho punks know 'rl'hat's up'. Ifpunk remains splintered and fashion based rather than on ideals and goals

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AT THE M9MENT, ARE

IT JUST ANOTHER FASHION? WILL PTINK E!'ER BE A

it *,ill ner:: r nore than a subculture. Iabelling and sectioning ourselre. ;,r- i lead to any kmd of revolution. Drop the categorie: ::,: ',io;k together there )'ou'\'e got a potential threat, 8 . \\T.{T DO \-OL }I.{.KE OF THISE BLACK METAL B,{NDS LIhI D.\RKTHRONE.{\D E}.IPEROR? TTIEY SEE]\I TO H{\T P.\G.{I{/S.{T,1t\IC LYRICS OR DO

YOU SL'BSCRIBE TO THE THEORY TIL{T THEY TL{\'E .{ \IORE SL\ISTER AGE\DA - FASCISNI?

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the black metal scene can be excrllent at trmes I overall hale a strong dislike to it becau- .r: ri:: generic sound coming out of that scene and I have little rspe,;r for any, of those bands. Some are openly frscist, I $oul: nerer suppon an).band or scene that tolerates bullshit like thar Fuck black metal and anyone that supports that sa1'

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crap.

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\+If{T DO }'OLT THI]\'K ABOUT

'PROFANE

EXISTENCE' RISLRRICTI\-G THEIR ZINE? IS THIS A GOOD THNG FOR PL\X AN'D TLA\T, THEY BEEN MISSED?

I would

it's a good thing, I've always enjoyed 'Profine' for theh hard *,ork and committed attitude towards punk, presenting a good balance ofpolitics and music. They definitell,didn't have anyone who say

could replace them in their time gone. That magazine probably inspired more people to be punk than any other zine I can think ofin the 90's.

10 . WIIAT PLANS DO

YOU HAVE FOR THE FUTI,IRE?

We have plans for a new LP on 'Mind Contol Records'. and we are still plaruring on touring Europe and the U.S. again. Beyond that we are regrouping fiom our U/est coast tour *'ith WOLFPACK.

1I . AI.IY THOUGHTS/COMMENTS? I hope I don't sound cheesy although that is my stock in trade, but support your local

sc€ne, help set up shows, put up and cook for bands, get involved in your community, reach bey,ond just the punk scene and involve your neighbours, anyone you meet. That's what makes a sc€ne strong and it's worth the effort.

Tlsnks -Joel.

.dXIOM - c/o Joel Axiom, Gasmask Records, PO Box 2626, Porttand,OR 97208, USA.

A LOOK BACK AT THE HEYDAY OF TIIE ANARCHO PI.INK SCENE. Remembering the days before the DfY scene when pa1, no more than was on everJ- record thet mettered and bands such es CRASS, FLUX, CONFLICT end TIIE SLTBHUNL{I{S ran their onr lebels. The records themselves came in informatiye poster sleeves. All records came in regulation black and

ntite.

DEATH IS REALITY TODAY aka DIRT were one of the marl bands who rallied to the call to arms b), CRASS. DIRT were heavily influenced by CRASS and nere touring partners for a *hite. Their debut 7"'Object, Refuse- Reject, Abuse'rvas recorded in 1981 and released on 'Crass Records'. in a npical black and u.hite fold out poster sleeve. 'Hiroshima' kicks rhe ep of *ith heavily distorted guitars. rumbling bass and tribal drumming, before the dual F,M vocals scream in. 'Unemployment' is a slorrer haunting tack *'ith vocals from Gary,.

'Democracy' gives us the DIRT call to arms of "Object, Refuse, Reject, Abuse" orer a npical DIRT song. 'Dolls Of Destruction' rounds the ep of uith more screamed vocals, distorted guitar and

'n' drums. An excellent debut! up $/as a live LP on 'Crass Records' (recorded at '\e* Half lv{oon' - Stepney 5th April 1982) :alled 'never Mind The Dirt - Here's The Bollocks'- It star'-: rrith 'Deaf In Realit_v', a short thrashl,song sitl vocals by Deno. 'Slauglterhouse Rock' is up ne\t. a chilling song \^ith haunting vocals. 'Canver f.iand' comes next with an excellent almost sing alons rune. before speeding up and finishing quickly.

Deno's back screaming'n' squealing on 'Bully' as DIRT errol the vrtues of pacifism. 'Unemplo,vment' rumbling bass

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is up next b€fore one ofthe best songs DIRT ever did comes qP - 'Another Fi[ed Hole'. ft starts off with some spoken vocsls by Deno and haunting rhythm guitar before things speed pp and det more thrasfiy. 'Qemocr&cy' fiom the ep is next. Thdt ends side one (wpll dfter a bit of thp next song).

'Pqblic Execution' stqr-ts up si(e two, fast CMSS inspired noisel 'Labels' highlights the slower more haunting, more effective side to DIRT. Haunting rhl.thm guitar (again) as DIRT tell you to stick yoqr labels. '6-35_' is a slow song with yoc4ls from Deno. 'Mager Race ' speeds things qp with I Vaming to \rBtch aql fof thg flew mester rpce no less. The LP finishes offwith a rabid vorsiop of 'House Of The fusing $qn' called'Lsut Of the fusing Sun', with new lyrics all about Nagarki. All in all an exoellent live document of DIRT's first incarnation. The story doesn't quite end thero thoug[ as there was a planned 7" on 'Corpus Christi' that never saw the light of day. Which is a shame as it contains Ore be$ DIRT song werl 'Mother' is an anthemic song that | starts offslowly, with that aU tqo Fmiliflr rhythm guitat on top of o enugging hmo. lVbp $ys margho punk $las just thc b,riCq lt rtro 6ttt slosly rnd tha pnicg on in sn-ellrod FLjLIX

,

_011oyednot bcfrrc speodiog up apd rhrashing oqtl what aa aaellent 7' 6cai rongs qoutd'vo made.

DIRT took a hhtu& returuing wiS a vGqgcirca in t 9t4. TouinS ud& ANTISEcTin !9E5 (?) this tour was thc first timc I wihcssed tho arsomc lirrc o<pcrioce ttut DIRT wEre. A LP cas rccorded ir 1985 'Iug An Error'aod rclcescd on their own hbcl. 'Woodea GuD' $arr de,Lp offwith a stightly tess Cfu{SS inspired Flrrd sd impowd vocols, from DcDo, trss Xrsting .n, sgeaming. .evCfo Soe. qrrics on in tic srmc vel& drr$ing guittr ctc. 'Anti.lVrr' b r slow smg wi& wcals from both Deno fid ftry. ftis bringr io mhd thG clgrfu DIRT eud Aoo ric ls cp. .-B.l6sr' hrts our rt Brinin's pohcy in N. trehnd. Bc&le thc blst roag on lhc LP 'ruc tu Ermr'. Exccllcar vocals totrr Dam rDd &at haunting rhythm gi:itat. A lengthy song that really sho*s what DIRT can do. The first side finishes with m instrupcoht tbat slova douu almoat to r strdstill, 'Crasb' sirts side two witt eome tuncful guitrr irtd passionete wcals tom G$y. A elowi$ leagthy soog in which DIRT cxtol rho virtres of Ariarcny, Pcaoc and Freedom. 'Eeal C'll' b protcs agriqt thp ful unds, 'Pontr, Grce4 Glory' his Fact as DRT Itre heigt8 emin widr tomc fino if elightly queaky vocat noo peno oy6t r lorvy sound. 'nadiation' soct dle vocal futi€E iwltgh to Gary, rs r rumbling bass domlqtes the song. .M.r,,V Oo Round' itrts wit[ some hrncftl griur and singiag by Deoo bcpre thc gong spGo& up slightly only io slow dovm again.

'My gua' roundg thc LP offin fine stylo with a rpoedy mernonblg tunc and more fine slnging fom deno.

DIRT split up not lotrg &ftcr thiq for a socond tinc. only b rcsur&oe for a tour in 1990, if my frctrory sorves me right. lVhen I ssw lb€m live br a scoond time. !993 salv more acffir on the DIRT &on! as ttrcry rcorhced with the 'Fcasr Or Fominc' tapc. 'Tn:bal Drems' *arts offthe tapc with some exoclleot guiar urert. 'Lunacy Of Lave' carries otr witir a Wcedy qttrck on domestic violcncc. 'Then' is nsxt, duat Ir,[rT vocals over a rhort mid.peogd song. .no6i And Loss' i3 rnother shor(ish) son& $Oicrl of thc 4cw DIRT sound. .Guilty As Chlrgod' has sopc fine guitrr work !t th€ stoft, then it chugr along h typiol anarcho ftshion .Np Rcason, ffnidrcs tto Upe off with r heavy sound and angy vocats from Dcoo.

I 994 saw DIRT as a 4-piece, as they lost a guitarist and the release

-

of 'Sc.ent Of Thp Kill' ep on 'Skuld'. It kicks off w.ith a re-recording of 'Lunary' - a more qptempo version. 'Hated is next, a frst bouncy song with some fine singing. Side two has ,Listen Morons' and 'Plaslic Bullets' on it. Two TOIOC WASTE covers, and apart from the frct they're a bit faster or heavier maybe, you'd nevgr know they weren't DIRT originalsl 1994 also san,the 'Beast

Or Burden' split ep *ith MANKIND? (rcleasd on 'Tribal \a1).

DIRT offer two tracks, 'Man Hunter' is r hervyish fach whilst 'Dea[, Dumb And ll{alc' ls r hst stsrting fmk with rlow ports intcrspersed in it.

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r;:.::::J: iile Lp ar.The Kopi Berhn l315/94,, Itsair oi Dti.I's rer-ordurg care€r. albeit a live recording

DIRT also

tle

end

containing nLr

::r:

i1.1qs_

It's a fittin_s document spanning their

entire care=r

The late 90's saq rLc relea- of 'Black And

\[hite', a double Lp

(released on 'Siu.i' a-nl '..l,ciil-e') ir contains all rheir out ofprint stuffand the ne..:i relea-<ql 7-. lt's aa essentiai releas€ for rnyone nol forntnare to ::.a\i been around in DIR'I.s heyday, or just for those, who like r,s *ent&l those nvo unrelease<t

tracksl

;ctn rouring rhe Sates. uithout Deno, having Sracq iom IIId\KINDI on vocgls. Gary latei teamed

!I\T.*er9 drafted in

[a-st

up s'ith Sreve Ignorant ro form STRATFORD MERCENARIES. Quite apt really a: out of all the anarcho bands DIRT were probabll' the one mos ialluenceil b1 CRASS. After so many rcformations over the J-6rs r E can onl5, live in hope for another one and the chance to *Object, Refuse, Rejecr, Abuse; once again!

KISMET HC A LONG STANDING ANARCHO PTNK FROM STOKE WIIO DESPITE PLENTY OF LINE-UP PROBLEMS ARE STILL DOING THE ROUNDS. A MD( OF OLD STYLE ANARCHO AND MELODY SET THIS BAND APART FROM MOST OF THEIR PEERS. THIS INTERVIEW WAS DONE WITH DA\T, D-FEKT AND JAN. I ' GNT us A BRIEF rtISToRt' oF THE BAND, \!r{AT il\-sprRED you FoR\{ AND \ITL{T ARE YOT]R INFLUENCES? Drve: Januarl' 1989 saw the band form at fiis time D-fekt, Dare, Fluffand Skal were

rhe members. since and gone through 14 bass plal'crs, a couple oiring.15, rme even had is now in POLICE. BASTARD) on s"*nd guiur. when *e formed we sire infuenccd by

9" fu: we have split and refomed Dee (*'ho

loads of differerr bonds such as CRASS, CONCRETE SOX ELECTRO [IfppfES, CONFLICT. DISCHARGE. BROKEN BONES, ANTISECT, I could list a rdrole host of cool bands, that r+e and I listen to. one of tlre main reasons for us forming was tre lack of &st noisy bends in o* i."rr, saying that the bands ttrat were snd still are in.our lo\trI,I arc good but not what we w€re into. nowadaj,s ifind influence from many different areas in li& and music. I still lfte music from the 70's and g0's

and the coorcmporary bands thal we have around now, added to this I ligen to a lor ofclassical music. I love 20th Cetrtury music rnd enjoy listening to ttrc proms on radio 3 in Aug-Sept (sell-out middle ckss tosser I think)' So to summarir I love punk rock, anarcho is lovell' music to lisren to but I also like melodic mrff too. I do not believe in restricting what t like to hear, Ju: Er' ... I dunno- the history of the band at all realll'. Onll'thar m) mate Sct frorn ACTfivE MINDS old me about a sloke punk band - KISMET I{C - sometime in summer 1997. I qrote them a letter and larer met Kev (bossisr at the time) sl a Joseph Porlar (drummcr,'vocalisr of BLyTH powER/zotNDs/ MOB) solo gig and he invitod.me to a KISMET HC prar-ticr sersion- I oon', r"y ."t"r TH-E I &ought of 6e band thcn but I kept in touch with them and when Jsse t:boirisl # I 3 teft r ) .;oined the group and bought m1:elf a bass guitar. Oh yeah when I *'as younger, seem ro remember reading about tiem'in zines. ity lusonal influances arc; animal righs, the Dly scene an,l posirir.eness in all forirs of altemative cullurc.

:. }.OU'I'E RECf,IfTLY GOT A FEII!.{LE

I'OCAI.IST. 1r"{S THIS ,{ CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO CHANGE I'OUR DIREC'TION? D: Not really, sue has been with us for about a year nog. at first Sue $rsjust rloing backing vocals to Ft'.r{ who has now left the band, when he left Sue jusr rook oler rhe main l,ocal iuties and I do the .Macho tr.*.ing vocals, it s€ems 10 work well. This does add morc Bastard' which is Fo$€r to the song rinut 6";"-t*rtession at gigs etc. I think that this is kinda cool that wome-n get involvJ in the punh :rl'ernent. Many women do work rrilhin the scene in one uar or another, Ncve-rtheless, let.s facc it, it's :k male drunlien punli that has most fun at the end of rhe nighr. This is a shame. punt is or should be

,\

about encouraging as many p€ople to participate as posgible and this includes women and the young kids

that

are

just getting ir,rvolved!

J: I was just chilling out at KISMET HC practiceVgigs when Fluffleft and,Zanne took over lead vocals.

Itjust seemed like a logical thing to do. And her voice (along with Dave's) is very effective for the current KISMET HC

sound.

3 . WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT GENRES CAN YOU SEE ANY CHANCE OF PT]NK TINITY? D: I like the amount ofdifierent styles ofpunk that you can find today. The problem is there is not too much crossover going on. I mean the people *ho like pop punk tend to like that style and no other, this I am afiaid kills any chance ofunity. Ifpunks could only se tha! tlrough segregation we lost the punk war.

What was a shong movemcht with los of good bdnds, with plenty of people travelling to gigs *irich seems to have fillen oway nolv, *trich is a shame as thcre used to be a good sfong network ofpunks up end down the UK that kepl in touch by travelling. This still happens a bit, but it is not as strong as it was.

I tcdd to go to Derby, Manchester and Birmingham a lot to se€ bands, as there isn't too many bands that play Stokc. Due to punks in Stoke not really going ro gigs rrhich is a shame as it was quite a good scene a few lears ago, with Stan of E)ilT CONDITION doing loads of good gigs, but he started to los€ money due to poor tum outs.

D-fekh Punk would be pretty bland ifthere weren't different approaches to it. Be it teenage rebellion or ageing punk rocker. Ifyou look at people who approached the idea ofpunk as a 'shock value' frctor, the majority of people moved ort in quite a short while and probably forgot the strole thing. Butthe people who ti:ok/take on a more opon-minded approach, take a more caring feelurg uith them. Then again ,some ofthe most'right on' people I have met have been complete cuntrsh bastards. Unity? People are people make of life what you can.

J: As I'm in a positive fi-ame of mind as I tlpe this - 1'eab, there is a chance of punk unity. It exists gveD,rvhere even in the weirdest ofplaces or so I've heard!

A few years ago when I was mega fircked off with everything and the world was just firll of shit. Punk was there to fip me up and force me to look at horl frr I'd frllen. Punk was there u,hen I decided to reclaim my life. Punk gave me e way oiiife which is the closest thing to being free, achieving change and being true to this planet, to myselfand those punlis *tro actually make punk what it is - comprende?

4 . IIOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT PT]NK BUSN{ESSMEN SUCH AS DAZ RUSSELL A]\'D HIS

FESTTVALS? WOULD YOU EVER PLAY 'HOLIDAYS IN THE SUN'?

D: If people do not like 'Holidays In The Sun', there is a simple answer, do not go, it is simple. Ifyou do not \ilant to watch a show on tv what happens? You qv another channel or s*'itch it off There are many altematives such as punk picnics and so on. Stu-pid is putting an alternative festival on around October time so go there if you thinft Daz is a con man5 which is true. ahrzy s has been since 'The Mermaid' days.

However, I would think that someone else would do it due to the amount of money that can be made.

Punk is full ofdodgy blokes, so chodse no*4 D-f: If I was offered a job at f,300 a week I'd b€ stupid not to take it, So, if somebod' offered us money to play where we would finally break eveq or lose out, then ves I u,ould People DO NOT HAVE TO GO to 'Holidays In The Sun' it's thei choice. Personally I'r'e ner.er had f50 spare to go. then again I've never been offered a f300 a weekjob either. Ifit uas not Daz ,it would be somebody else. so, it's for the individual to choose.

Jl Dunno, never met the bloke. On the strrface it ma-y appear to be a purely for profit venfure, mayb€ not.

I hope it's more in line with an ethical stance thougi, individuals should make up their own minds - seek out the info and make an informed decision. This is *,hat I would do before playing at such a festival.

5 . I'I'E HE^{RD YOU'\'E GOT A CD-WRITER SO I

SUPPOSE I C,{\ SAFf,LY SAY YOU EMBRACE CDS PTJNIC ARE PEOPLE LIKE ACTIVE MINDS RIGHT

IN IN

SAYING THEY HA\T, NO PLACE IN PTINK? D: D-fekt is on about getting one but we do not have it yet, though Ste1.e 'Ripping Thrash' has bought one and the split 7" with INVAZIJ{ is also coming out on CD-R with extra tracks and an ANARCHY SPANKY demo to boot. This is true DIY. Lets frce ftcts though everybody has opinions about CD; it is another forin of carrying music. I have no real problem with CD or the good old wax. Punk as ever eventually accepts everything and uses it for it's own need, CD-R does a good job ofthis. Yes

t6

thepatentisownedbySony,butletsfaceilas :-:'::::::2tu:.JSRTtopr6sanrrecordsduringthe late 80's \,iâ&#x201A;Źre haying products that *ere;ran)r ::: ::--.i:=.1 ti\ E\[l or at least.A.bbel Road No one

is

innocent.

CDs are a way of passing on good qualrq n,. : . ::'. s r;ll t\e dogs bollor but \\e are in the y'ear 2000, Come on people, I'm all for lv1P3 uhich .l'.- - : := :=. :+:h,ro-photes are Iosing out We all gave in to the motor car when horse and carts are pcrt+::. . -:-: :-.::ns o: rran+rcn = J: Ha, this is an interesting question as it uill iner::.: .. .::: :, opmrons tiat ma1 be seen as going orer the same old ground. Yeah, I suppose it is a big si:: :r: u:t rLn"l to CDs but looking at this overall punk is about sharing ideas, thoug}ts, opinions- n:'i! ',::i\>- tnfornation \\har is it Malcolm X said "Revolution(?) by any means necessary'' lrle. I m :' :::ri.I - I abhor r iolence and on)1 protesUact rn a non-violent way. Whereas other friendycomrade':-.:ir:-spunls u'e tbrce to defend themselves tom police/fiscistVdickheads. I understand *here thel ar: :crirnr trom fuck I'm getring offthe point!

Can't remember all of what ACTM \{INDS hare rlr s3\ about CDs thoug[ thin]i I know the jist of their argument and yeah it is justifiable as thel do make more moner for the capitaliss, kill offviryt ghettoise anti-CD punx. Though it is a viable and;heaflish) form of putting punk music out into the punk world.

6 . DO THE 'MOITMENT AG.A,INST NIO\.{RCH}'' .{\'D 'RECLA.I}I THE STREETS'

D-t

DEMOS DO ANY GOOD OR DO THEY JUST .{.LIE\ATE ORDIN.{RY PEOPLE? DO YOU STJ?PORT THEIR IDEAI-S? D: No protest alienates anyone due to the frct that ifthq knou'about tie protest or situation that people are unhappy with, then the general public can give their opirion rvhether it's good or bad The more people that know the better even ifthey do not agree uitlr you! The main battle with this area ofprotest is tabloid pross. The-v play everyone offagainst each other,

Ere

D-f: Ifpeople didn't actually protest then the world wouldjust carry on *'ith people being apathetic. The protests may get bad nervs, but I think it strenglhens people's views that participate. Don't forget 'Big Brother' surveillance, mask up, cover your face, use fb!:e id. Ifthey don't have your picture they can't come knocking on your door.

J: Any demonstration against mass death corporations is to be supported. If there is fun involved in the demo then it makes it all the more worthwhile. I wish more punx would get up offtheir fat arses and do something, anything!

FrGHT THE POWER!!!!!! | ! ! ! ! ! !!!!

7 . WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF PEOPLE \\IIO SAY POLITICS HAS NO PLACE I}i PLI-IiK? DOES THE ANTI.PC BRIGADE RUIN PT]NK OR DO THEY HAVE A POINT? D: Punk can accommodate everyone regardless ofhis or her personal viervs. However, u'hat does seem stupid is that as you call the antlpc brigade, is sometimes very daft in slagging off political bands. individuals. This seems to destoy the scene and *,hat punli stands for, r,r'hich is uniry-. These different opnions can live together, but ifpeople feel offended by politics wh-v be a punk? Beceuse being a punk is a political statement as a rebel against society as a whole.

D-f: People change. I was once a chaos punli, getting drunli and rnto mindless trouble, so no change there ha!

J: Dunno much about politics, is the animal rights morement po)itical? Is xenotansplantation potitical? fue/is nuclear weaponVpower political? Is punli political?

It's all relative isn't it. Another quote " The personal is political" Ignorance is bliss, but without being informed about the * orld around you then you could just be banging your head against a wall.

E

. I ASSUME YOU'IT

SEEN 'FRACTURE',

\\H.\T DO YOU }IAKE

CO\ER ENOUGH DIFFERENT STYLES OF PL\K

.I\D

OF IT? DOES IT

DOES THI] UK NEED

A 'MRR'

ST}'LE ZIN[,?

D: I like'Fracture'. I enjoy reading it. I do feel that ther should corer a wider spectrum ofmusic

as

possible. They do tend to lean towards a pop side of punl \er ertheless. I think they do a good job on the shole, and with an average of 5000 copies knocked out at a trme it is a useful communication tool,

D-f: Of course it does, all communication is good S,: Iar. it's not been a bad read Again *'ith it's xofessional layout and print style. People *ho don'r nc.r:rall! read zines will get to hear about other such as In Darkness. If there's a feu E@S Lr. the columns, so what, we knor,l l'ho they are! =rblications, J: Zines are strange weird phenomena that exist \\ithin an; outside punk which is a good thing because crossover those huge barriers which suffirse. stifle ani liberate all the diferent genres, sOles involved =+ of the Intemetll!l!! : fiis complex game of life. I suppose the same could b'e 'ard

it depends on individual choice, me - I like rhe columns in 'Fracture' and I was never really fig-time ihto 'lvffJR' so I can't rcally compare. It's a vehiole for oommunication (which relates to my Again

opinions on

Sre antilpro CD question) and quite often this communication rvill be Luseful and constructive.

Sometimes it,can be utter bollox too- thiril< tfor yourselfl I | !

A FEW ZINES SEEM trO BE GOING ON-I]INE. IS'TIIE INTERNEtr'IIIIE FT]TURE? OR Iq IIHEC,OOD OLD PAPER ZINf, THE BEST? D: I iove paper iines. I like to buy ltlrem at gigs, mail,order etc. I juSt eriioy reading thom. But wtren they gre on,the lnternet I'rn unsure, I never really bothor with thon that muclg so I'm unable to comment on on'line zine6. l,et's froe it no maftsr ifdrey are on-line or printed, zines play a veny inportant role in the punk scene. I fedX that zirws are a main form ofcommonicaiion for bands, [abels eto. So be it on{ine or 9 . AS

pqper. Zines rulel D-t: Commrunication is (he key, be it Intemet o( paper offiiatree' printed matter wflla]ways,be around.

J: There's loads of shite on the Intemet and there's loads of shite:zines. On lhe other hand rthere's:some b,rilliant web sito andlbritliant zines too. To reiterate dre,comrnunicatioa themg anything used to further punk ideaXs anlt stuff b good in my eyes. My main argument wilh the Internet istthat y,ou noed relatively e{pensive handware and softwar€rto ac€ess the net. So it could be argued that itlis a hit 'elitist 6ough with public library accessr(in the UK) ihen these eliiist barriemrcorild be.broac'ired,/removed.

Zines, thosc I've read rthat are entertaining thoughtprovokin& fieative and fue to (hcmselves are:sotne

of the most wonderful things that fellowlhumans do that make me happy )to be alive. Whqeas lihose that follow tre well-wom path erll do not even try 0o b€ rrnovativc kinda make me upoetand saddene{ that another rtree died in vain to make the paper,that such a zine was printed on.

By the uay I crrrently make, do a ziae callsd 'Log Dreams', #4 available from me; Jan Shaw,(Yan freo), 289 Prince's Road, Penkhull, Stoke On TrmL ST4 7JT, UK. Cost f I (post paid in lJK) $2 (poS yaid res ofitlrc planet earth). rO . \\/H.l.T PL.4,NS TIAVE YOU GOT FOR II-INE FTTI=LIRE? D: Well we have a feu' gigs corning u.p'during'dle Suor,na. Ai ilae g3n of Ociob€.r *.e are going back into q-tat happens. A-fter the sfudio, +ve hop€ [o record a minilP cr sorne.i]ruqg s.imi*ar, rre s'rXl .bq-ve ro =e ihis, I'm not too surq anvthing that comes along we *.;rr[ jusn 3,ci o,n *.id J: KISMEtr l{Q, rthink Dave and D:trt have said dbout wha,t's happ:airug q-idr X]'SI.EI ard ]'m looking forward to it all (sad but true! ! ! ! !! !l! ! ! ! !)

Currently I'm looking for contnbutors for my ner<t zine 'LosttDreams' #5 - 'The Impossible Dream'.

Need: articles, arit*,ork poems, \,rics, ide"", srything at all rreally. Hopefully it will be a forum for global

communicdtior\ DIY culture and anirnal rrights issues.

11 . ANY THOUGHTS/COMMET{TS? D: Thoughts for ltoday, k), tolbe positive. punk israrpositive movernent,

qA,{ho cares ifyou're.sfiaightedge, gay, bltlck, funny shade.ofpink that[<ids always paint to the exbeme, crusty pop punk kid, w€ wantone unified scene. Where everyone works togelher, for the good of the ryhole. Withorit backbiting, Eghting or slagging, iis not too much rto ask is it? In adtlitiorq if arryone wants a KISMET LiP or 7" get in rtouch by post a{ addressgiven or c-mail :,diddyann65@hotnail.com Visil the KISMEIr '1r€b site just being buflt : http://kismethc.tripod.com n: Get informed and get involvod. Did you know that at a place calted Huntirgdon Life Sciences (Cambiidgeshire, UK) 500 animals die cveryday. 700,000 every year, This is.abhonent andtthere is no need ifor their sufering to ,continue. Vivisection is scientific fiaud. For more info please vjsit :

http : //,www.welcome.to/shac

KISMET HC, Dave Soragg,434 Werrington Roed,Brckn{ll, StoketOn Trent, ST2 9AB, UIC LATE I\IEWS: KISMET HC are looking for stard-in ilrummer and singeq as members can'tralways make the ilong joumeys to gigs. Anyone interested should be committed and be prepared to travel & work hard. Get in touoh with Dave atrthe ad&ess above.

SIIM\ICES DIARY. I've finally

seen the light, punk will never achieve anythirg! I'm sick of lhav,ing silly haircuts,'sick of wearing scru@ clothes and defuritely sic* of having a sitty namd! Life in Loeds has become boring, punk istfull cif poscurs and riFoffmerchants Can you believe I sent offfor some CRASS live tapes from this guy in Birmingfum and all I got were some crap ADAM & THE ANTS shlffback. So much for anarcho punk and it's so qllled morals and integrity. I'm using a new name now, one that isn't so punk sounding.

I've also got rid of my record collection,'snapped the fuckers, they r.verre just tryingrto brainwash me. The world isn't a comrp! polluted ding planet at all, we live in utopia! Rejoice, this is Stench signing off!

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MUSIC REVIEWS.

tsrcks recorded in l9E4 &om lhis clsssicuurcho snosEEGEarEJ: 6- srtv,ork

by Squeat ( who did.rhe. artrrork for their band. Excclletrt souna quarityliJtilrrianipockaging forking out oollsctors prices for thc without u*a io oric,ioal rclcas€s). Ir's a good ;;;'il;';*t "to

IcoNso[_ftLTII

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oriijnats - which are hard to find. (BBP/Yellott-Fcvcr)

HELLKnUMEn

' vlCTIMS'Oi FAID

?'.Mors metal prnk fiom HK ' 5 tncks of rabid thrash' wirh a sound thar goes lir beyond hc DISCTIAROE

th",bor,"r.ffi;6G;ffi, sumott th€B Zis-iilol ft'i"ot* ffi tlt tTiEf q'q Jtt ;; ;; is;riliEfi-o *t i*t "-,J't*trf, de$ik.)

TLAARP 71 More short blrsts of arger fiom AIf,OCI(}US-IIADNESS-:-IEI USIS O[ or Nar'ru-u'DEATUDISORDER inspirod z oogs d'"* ti'"" ATROcIous MADNESS. ffi ".u of tochnolory urd urodem livittg. rh"'oiodvenngrs punk. vcry hsr and vcry *irv.lrr.jv"* ushldn

This is some of

best UK bands at the momc|r! so comparirons, rh8t .oo," p-pf.i,,tiifV make. Oni of 9e Foqt, Neqrcstle Upon Tyne, NE3 2XF' UK' S"ok ton fct *u+ and get a copy. lz-SO Sonr groovy purple rcrcen ermt+ b'S yrth a card 6ld inr WABJOI9=XAGZEE8IE qusltty oJthc-covcr' itoi an insmmcmtat ttu 1" out sleste inskle. Thc musio cruff vocrls ft eerectlv wift t!€ ansrv musrc' tt"tv to ur"i** ;;il;."g) t b u"oo*tor, ahvays a good topic tu.*ngr: Good to see a The fiemc bchM this.p much of nowadaysl (See advert for something ,"-ou bao6 sill singing about

Arodrcrtoprcleascfi.omportland.grrelydrccnrscapitslofPutrk'-@acopyfor$3US/$SWorldfrom PO Box4dl l3,Portlard OR' 97240{l13.USA KISMET HC give us 2 tuneftl coMR*DE fgSUE HC / rvAzrr": gives you aa idct

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hardoorc arrnk soogs oo

old

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iiJ ,*it Flutrhas been rcplacod by suzancc' Giving thcm ao nwnanA cr. &om Lifiuenia and oftr up 3 songs of woll ox"r 2 .*."it*, t Thnsh played p,rk. Nothing #ffi, G,)"i*r eo. trmt tFudi Crpgnghr/\'ivi$') Trv- Ripping elscrtrerc rddresscs HC i" ruSft$f r L I t' >P L I r \I I \l (]lD BFLLL \E! Iu-ii Ol[ cot D / vooREEfr: ;GRYqt\rG: YoIj as s'ith rrea*ed trnsb' *iL it rs a c,f ,"e -UirO-il! tsrcks of hst hardcore fro-*ffie6-:L-d

of whar grey souod€d Ermo6t DIRT sound.

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vocals. trust ho$, r Ute carries oo fiom their rrsr

IYG,TIL I been missirq out on! I'v€ not IfiUC(IEDUST -flULIONfLCEAL IHPCD What baveof 80's US hrrdcore' I've wrongly a En beingquito d.rpiG atrraysbea lor* of h"r6ifi'--6f6& cD has rcallv blown mo swsv' " dismissed it as a sctns tuu

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RAW irrcluding-tna AFTf,RMATtt-:lE-!rc;;;ii ''O e ri'" *cks' scriously rccomm.'rdod o[m" i, at Ttis noi*. crust,pueittffi-maai oovers. Totsl

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AXIOM:-IMPALED EY CH:\QS:- -.--. :,:- - : :. i: 'Ji.lSS s1 ie fold out poster sleeYe, withartrvorkbyDennisDread But;31 :-i --i: t:-:r ---.:. =r: i:.-3-5 6Jrritha spokenuord intro over some doomy music betbre k:;i:-:.; r:r i :----.. :.=: :-,::i -i m:r of metal and crust works perfectlyasasoundtrackto-A-\lO\1 makesanotherexcellentrelea-t,y

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- : I:::. tsrrL:.:r- ' :: I IETEST-{TIO\ *ith a ne$' vocalist After c-r:i::: -;=:n ri:.: "t.::l:.r It realll changes ttre sound (obviousl.v) having a bloke shouting alc t-. '-::: : .lrglt n::, :Jge Top release, cenainJl up there with DETEST.{TIOYs bs-r h:i::- : ::r.. i-ESIST corer tCouersus Reality) H-{Rt'!l-x:aRLl!: DE\IQ T:.:. : -,ie demo t3F r,\ar came out last year. No1\ ar.ailable from Ruptured Ambrlion: or BBP. !] ),:u r: pi: a chance Io eet a coP), And uell *'orth getting as *ell, an all temaje band *rth all c..eorlErs jon: i o.:is So ir grve' a ven varied sound, sometimes screaming over

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This is a rea)11 Lnspirng relea-.el BanG hle this shatter the mlth that all anarcho/crus}y'peac€ bands are noi:1 They Mre some a\\esome tunes *trich bring to mind rhe best 80's uK anarcho punk, This is a rE;ord rhat er-en one should hear. Bands like this lot are the rrue spuit of punk (Tribal War)

DL{SPOR{

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l6tracks of fist intense crusty

anarcho punh. Dual M,T vocals which are screamed over some of the most furious anarcho punk I've heard in a long time, This Fimish outfit have the obvious Scandi<rura mppings. but riith some fine tunes trying to get out An ess€ntial anarcho purchase. lt's relea:ed by a combi:rahon of 5 labels. trl' BBP / Yellorv Fever in this country.

ARE l'Olts GODS{D This is a discographl CD of ther fust 3 records'nro 7"s and a tNIT -

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LP. Those familiar with UNIT should know what to e\p+!r. but to tho5e of vou rrho don'l kno* UNIT/ACADEMY 23TIIE APOSTLES, it's blueJpunk;bLk all mired togerher. This is a ggod $a1 to get hold

oftheir no*'deleted material. Try BBP for

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ZINE REVIEWS. PROI.A"\J[ EXt-STf,IlCI tl! After l8 months of silen::. e ri3l;51';3 rerrm fiom the best zine everl Includes an irterview with AUS-ROTTEN as well as loa- -r: PlrLn;c:.l anrcles and columns, plus a felv reviews. This issue was put together in 3 *eeks, e\tc:t: -'.gge: lssue ne\1 tune round. Best to tr.v 'Active' or 'Flat Earth' for a copy, not too sure on price. 5 '.::.r p:suge onll HELL-AND !AMN,{I|O,![L This time around Colir r:: tri3. a eomputer. so H & D looks a little different. But it's still fult of the usual foreign band: rhai r,:,:.:.31. h:s hcard o-l exc€pt for obviously Col himself. Ints *ith DIOS HASTIO, MASSLAKT, and \L{HrlrG {\\' olus a Toronto Scene Report. Loads ofreviews and various articles. Packed as usual u'ith Col:r :r:el.eni amrork Top readl 40piS1 + sae fiom 22 Bums Villas, East Lane, Stainforth, Doncaster. S \ c:i - D\- 5DP. LK. ts{LDC{CTUS #17 / CARGQ tULf i2 Split issue f,j. : :: :rn {rdl Cacrus. *ith 'Cargo Cult', a zine I've never seen before. The Cactus half has a \er- goi'J :::-r1. BROTHER NFEzuOR int. plus the usuat Cactus humour and articles. Add some revie*: r-: :'j:i rrother bnll read 'Cargo Cult' has mten'iews with PUGET SOLfND and BLYTH PO\\'ER : - : r:rher nterestins anicle about Nestor

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*itr'*i6Iiii'niL you chec\ h out' ii ti. "r p"* cotcred_ rn it uti-if rhcse bands intcrei '*ri' ;;. 3e station nota' rm"r' N Yorks' i;;; ).o] lott (an excellent one) and MAsS hear.ea, rno *itr,-o-por-Lol RU!,EH RtsING #4'"oi!I"Ii-..q. images' this is a brillisnl wiule * ur.,at. crc"i iri-[r".t SF.PARATION. r.oa orr.ovJii;.;ffi; USA' 139?2{041 "in*s i*a. Si from PO box 40t 13, Portland O& *lth GLOOM' IIEL.LKRUSI{ER andI same' Ois .ti*" This is r zine that RIyEU-XISING #5 f'A"tt 'f the and rhe uKl;"; ;v vours trulv) srRAco!.ry glus scene "p;;;H;i of Lovecrafl snrff For ordering crusty;';J;;JG wirh packed can't recommend enough fop read'

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A-lill i '' !,i !aEING ft Free reviows newsletter fiom the guy behind ABUSM YOUTH. A collage

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aIIDR"ESSED f,NflELOPE #3 Ne*slener solell dedicated to rcviewing zinos. A brilliatrt a sae from Ewan Frator, Po Box I 69. Bradfont \4'esr yorkshirg Bb I 2uJ, uK. NEETTI !{O!fl(EYil well Eunn (who does sAE) final,)L gets his full blown zine outl Inrs vyith I\ff ._ ...'L = OLB. OWN, PERE UBU, SHANK SOEZ { .SPECdOS'AX RECOTdS' ANd SPY VERSUS SP't !.:cc 6rod ins in this especially SHANI( A promisirg debut- I look forward to future issues. 60p idea- s=

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IL{RL}I-SCART'M & Oi POLLOI l3/t/00 .I20 RATS' LEEDS.

here's mr annual pilgrirr,age'i,r:.= Cri POLLOI. This tLme I nekkoj oler :., \= r-.j: r:

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CON-FLICT 5 FACTS.

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