Ali mirza refuted [THE FALSE ALLEGATION OF KUFR ON IMAM IBN TAIMIAH BY HERETIC ALI MIRZA OF JHELUMY

Imam Ibn Taimiah is criticised by Ali Mirza that he committed Kufr when he said that Temporalities [H:avadith:] have no Beginning.

But he misunderstood His sentence.

Imam Ibn Taimiah said that Temporalities have no beginning.

But he did not said Makhluq:at [Creations/Creatures] have no beginnings.

According to Ima:m 'IBN TAIMIAH RH: there is a difference between a TEMPORAL [H:A:DITH:] AND A CREATION/CREATTURE [MAKHLU:Q].

Every Creation is a Temporal but not every H:adith: is a Makhlu:q.

According to him Divine Acts are H:VA:DITH: BUT NOT MALH:L:QA:T. In this case Intransative Acts Of Deity [like Sha'n and Tajalli] are Intransitive and Not Transitive.

The burden of proof is upon one who claims that Imam Taimiah RH: said that Creations have no beginning.

An Intransitive Act Doeth not imply any Creation.

Divine Acts that are Transitive implies a Creation or requires a Creation [atleast one].

How ever Majority of Ahlussunnah do not accept this view of Imam Ibn Taimiah. But this view is not Kufr.

Heretic Ali Mirza says that it is a Certain Kufr.

But he says that it is possible that he may have rejected his this view before his death that is why he may be given a benifit of doubt.

The Heretic mind of Ali Mirza actually want to convey his audiences that if 'Ima:m 'Ibn Taimiah RH: died on this belief he died as a Kafir Na"u:dh:u Billah. As there is no definite proof that 'Ima:m 'Ibn Taimiyah RH: rejected his this belief it is implied from the sentences of "Ali: Mirza that it is doubtful whether 'Ima:m 'Ibn Taimiyah died as a Muslim or not.

THIS IS WHAT "ALI: MIRZA: THE HERETIC WANTS TO CONVEY HIS AUDIENCE AGAINST 'IBN TAIMIYAH RH: . HE IS TRYING TO MAKE DOUBT IN THE 'IMA:N [FAITH] OF 'IMA:M 'IBN TAIMIYAH. But it is "Ali: Mirza: who did not understood the true meaning of 'Ima:m Taimiah RH:.

A Number of SALAFITES do believe that there is no difference between Active Attributes of Deity and Acts of Deity , they are Neither Eternal [QADI;M] Nor Created [MAKH:LU:Q] but Temporal [H:A:ADITH:].

Majority of 'Ahlussunnah how ever believe that there are Seven or Eight Divine Essential

Attributes and the Abstractions of Qudrah. 'Ira:dah etc. are either Active or Relative Attributes.

They consider them as H:ADITH:. Some minorites of Matu:ridiah however believe that even Active Attributes are Eternal.

In any case Divine Acts are not Eternal according to Majority of Ahlussunnah. They considewr Divine Acts as Creations.

This dispute is not of Kufr but an internal Dispute of Sunnism.

Unfortunately Ali Mirza and his former teacher simple minded Zubair Ali Zai could not understant the nature of the dispute. Ali Zai used to declare any one as kafir who interprats any tradition otherwise its literal meaning.

As for Shaikh Albani he committed a mistake in understanding the words and sentences of Imam Ibn Taimiah RH: .

QUESTIONS TO ALI MIRZA: 1]WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT SOME ONE WHO SAY:= H:-DATH: OF DEITY IS NOT LIKE THE H:ADATH: OF MAKHLU:QI:N. 2] DO YOU THINK THAT THIS SENTENCE IS FALSLY ASCRIBED TO 'IMA:M BUKH:A:RI RH: ?

3]WHAT IS YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THIS SENTENCE OR YOU EXPLAIN IT IN LITERAL MEANING? 4] DO YOU BELIEVE H:-D-TH: AND H:-DU:TH: ARE MUH:AL ON DEITY OR NOT. ['AL H:-DU:TH: MUH:A:L "ALALLAH].

5] IF WORDS AND SENTENCES OF IMAM BUKHARI CAN BE INTERPRETED WHY THE WORDS OF IMAM IBN TAIMIAH CANNOT BE INTERPRETED. 6] DO YOU DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN TRANSITIVE ACTS OF DEITY AND INTRASITIVE ACTS OF DEITY. 7] DO YOU DIFFERETIATE BETWEEN IMMANENT ACTS OF DEITY AND NON- IMMANENT ACTS OF DEITY. 8]DO YOU BELIEVE THAT DIVINE ACTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH 'ALL-H

But even if Imam Ibn Taimiyah meant Creations even then He cannot be declared as Kafir not in the least meaning.

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