ENGINEER “ALI: MIRZA: OF JHELUM AND HIS INCLINATION TOWARDS QA:DIYA:NIAH AND NAS:I:RIAH

‘AHLUSSUNNAH WAL JAMA:”AH

ENGINEER “ALI: MIRZA: OF JHELUM AND HIS INCLINATION TOWARDS QA:DIYA:NIAH AND NAS:I:RIAH REFUTING ENGINEER ALI MIRZA OF JHELUM ABU: MUH:IB

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ENGINEER “ALI: MIRZA: OF JHELUM AND HIS INCLINATION TOWARDS QA:DIYA:NIAH AND NAS:I:RIAH ENGINEER “ALI: MIRZA: OF JHELUM has inclinations towards Qa:dianiah and Nas:i:riah.

He said in one of his lectures that he declared them as Ka:fir only because they declare him as Ka:fir.

This did expose his secret contacts with these to Ka:fir sects.

It EPOSETH THAT the Engineer “Ali: Mirza contacted the leadership and asked them whether they declare Engineer “Ali: Mirza: as Ka:fir or not . to his surprise they declared him as Ka:fir and as a Reaction the Engineer declared them as Ka:fir. If they had declared his as Muslim inspite of their Kurfiah believes Engineer Of Jhelum would have declared each one of the two Ka:fir sects as Muslim [Na”u:dh:billah Va ‘Aatagh:farullah].

SYMBOLIC REPRESENTATION OF ENGINEER’S HERESY Let A= An Article of Kufr [Infidelity].

P= A Person who believeth in A. B=Belief of Person P in Article Of Kufr A. ψ= All those Persons Who do not believe in A and are Muslims. Λ= Declaration of Kufr Now we declare P was Ka:fir [Λ] due to B [His belief in Article of Kufr A].

On the contrary Engineer “Ali: Mirza: declares P as Ka:fir only because of Λ OF ψ.

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What is the result of this ?

This meaneth that the Engineer of Jhelum doeth not consider A as Kufr.

This implieth that this person “Ali: Mirza: doeth not accept that A is an Article off Kufr.

This proveth the claim that Engineer “Ali: Mirza: doeth not consider a Kufr as Kufr.

This is a Kufr in itself.

ENGINEER’S ARGUMENT AND ITS ANALYZATION. Engineer “Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum says that if “Engineer “Ali: Mirza: continueth to be a Muslim even if he denieth that Mirza: is not a Prophet then Mirza: cannot be a Prophet.

But he forgot that Mirza of Qa:dia:n is not a Prophet since Holy Prophet is the LAST and FINAL Prophet [Nabi:]. Any one who believeth that a person is prophetised after Holy Prophet is CERTAINLY a Ka:fir. Mirza: Gh:ula:m ‘Ah:mad was a Kafir since he claimed prophethood.

Now coming to the claim of Mirza: of Jhelum.

His argument is analyzed as follow: If some one say P1 denieth the claim of Prophethood of another person P2 and still remaineth a Muslim then P2 is not a Prophet.

In can be further summarized as follow: If P1 denieth that P2 is a Prophet and remaineth a Muslim then P2 is not a Prophet.

-------------------P1 [Proposition P1] But if some one can deny the Finality of Holy Prophet One of the Necessities of ‘Isla:m and And Axioms of ‘Isla:m can he not deny the Proposition P1.

Is Engineer “Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum considering all Muslims to accept his irrationalities?

He must have known that at some earlier stages of Mirza Gh:ula:m ‘Ah:mad of Qa:diya:n he claimed that if some one doeth not believe in his prophethood remains a Muslim.

Doeth the Engineer not Know that Muh:mmad “Ali: Laho:ri: did not declare those as Ka:fir who denied Mirza: Does the Muh:ammad “Ali of Jhelum consider the Muh:ammad “Ali: of Lahore as Muslim?

We solemnly say that Muh:ammad “Ali: Laho:ri: and his followers are equally Ka:fir as the followers of Mirza: Mah:mu:d of Qa:diya:n.

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Mirza: Gh:ula:m ‘Ah:mad of Qa:diya:n is Ka:fir and as Engineer “Ali: Mirza: has inclinations towards Mirza: Gh;la:m ‘Ah:mad as the heretic Engineer himself accepts in his lecture , those who accept Engineer’s teaching in this regard are also out of the folds of ‘Isla:m.

Doeth he consider that scholars and historians have ceased in Muslims?

Doeth he consider to speak falsehood so boldly and confidently that he thinks he can deceive his audience?

What is the conspiracy behind all this?

ON THE OTHER HAND THIS ENGINEER IS TRYING TO DECLARE GREAT SUNNI SCHOLARS AS BLASPHAMERS .

NA”U:DH:UBILLAH. This is a proof that Engineer “Ali: Mirza: is a Heretic and want to destroy ‘ISLA:M.

MUH:AMMAD “ALI: OF JHELUM BORROWETH FROM MUH:AMMAD OF LAHORE [FOUNDER OF LAHORI SECT OF MIZA:ISM] Actually it was the belief of Lahori Mirzai group [founded by Muh:ammad “Ali Lahori that those who deny Mirza: are Muslim unless and otherwise they declare Lohorites and Mirza as Ka:fir. Engineer Muh:ammad “Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum doeth borrow from them.

We quote a paragraph from the book of Muh:ammad “Ali: La:ho:ri to shew the similarities of Engineer “Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum and founder of Lahorite sect of Mirza:’ism Muh:ammad “Ali: Laho:ri: THE Apostate Muha:ammad “Ali: Lahori said:"In 1914 we separated from Qadian and laid the foundation in Lahore of the Ahmadiyya Anjuman Isha`at Islam. The only reason for this was that we did not consider to be correct the belief of the present Qadiani Khalifa that all non-Ahmadi Muslims are kafir and outside the fold of Islam. This belief was opposed to the clear teachings and the practice of the Founder of the Movement himself, as well as against the plain teachings of the Quran and Hadith”.

This means that there is no other difference between two sects of Mirza:’is i.e Qa:diya:niah [Qa:dianites] And La:ho:riah [Lahorites] except the issue of Takfi:r of others. If so then this proveth that Engineer “Ali: Mirza: Of Jhelum neither do consider Lahorites nor can consider them as Ka:fir, since the principle is borrowed from Lhorite Mirzaites.

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Page 6 of 8 Point to be noted.

1]Engineer “Ali: Mirza: is a Heretic how want to implant Lahorism in ‘Isla:m, since he very slowly and mischievely crawls towards their views.

2] Lahorites offer prayers behind any Muslim and the same is the belief of Engineer “Ali: Mirza.

3] According to Lahorite Mirzais any one who recites Kalimah is a Muslim unless and otherwise he/she declares Mirza Gh:ula:m ‘Ah:mad Qa:diyani as Kafir or Lahorites as Ka:fir.

The only exception they make is for Qa:diya:ni group since in several stages of Muh:ammad “Ali: Laho:ri He did not declared Qa:diya:ni sect of Mirza:’ism as K:afir. If he had done so he would have done it at a very latter stage.

Engineer “Ali: Mirza: follows the Lahorites in this issue.

4] Marriages with Non Lahorites [including Qa:dianis] is allowed in Lahorism. The same is almost the view of Engineer “Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum with some modifications.

So these similarities expose the close resemblance between Muh:ammad “Ali: Laho:ri THE FOUNDER OF LAHO:RI SECT of Mirza:’ism and ENGINEER “ALI: MIRZA JHELUMI the founder of Jhelumi sect. One must equate both of them and declare both of the two sects out of the folds of ‘Isla:m.

Since MIRZA OF JHELUM doeth not consider the following believes as INDEPENDENT kufr.

1] THE BELIEF OF DIVINITY OF SAYIDUNA “ALI: RD: [NA”UDH:UBILLAH].

2] THE DENOUNCING OF THE FINALITY AND LASTHOOD OF THE PROPHETHOOD OF HOLY PROPHET .

If Engineer would have declared such believes as Kufr he had not based the issue of takfi:r on the takfi:r done by Nas:i:rian and Qa:diya:niah.

A SIMPLE CONUNDRUM Initially Mirza: Gh:ula:m ‘Ah:mad of Qa:diya:n was of the view that:-

"There is no claim to Prophethood but to Muhaddathyat which has been made under the command of Allah. There is no doubt in it that Muhaddathyat has a potential of Nabuwwah in it. ….. if it be declared a metaphoric Nabuwwah, then does it mean that there is a claim of 'Nabuwwah'?"

(Azala-e-Auham, pp. 421-422)

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Yes even this is a Kufr with Certainty. But Lahorites still use such sentences. What doeth this shew. Engineer “Ali: Mirza: cannot declare them as Ka:fir according to his standard of Takfi:r WHICH he hath borrowed from Lahorites.

Lahorites say: "The word Prophet (Nabi) has not been used in its Shariah terminological meanings because in that sense Holy Prophet Muhammad, peace be on him, is the Last of the Prophets. Rather the word Prophet in this article has been used in its wider meanings indicating one who makes prophecies after receiving news from Allah and it is that favour which is promised by Allah to all righteous Muslims in the Holy Quran in the verse: "LAHUM-UL-BUSHRAA FIL HAYAT AD DUNYA" Note of Muh:ammad “Ali: Lahori on the Article “Ahmad is the Prophet” in Review 1904 CE.

We askfollowers of Engineer “Ali: Mirza: of Jhelum “ Do you consider Muh:ammad “Ali: Lahori as a Muslim when he use the word Nabi: not according to Shar”ah but in the literal meaning and not declaring Non Lahorites as Ka:fir?

As for us we declare Lahorites as Ka:fir for using this term since it is not allowed to use this term and it is a Kufr to use this term for Mirza of Qa:diya:n even in literal meaning.

It is hoped that followers of Engineer “Ali: Mirza: must have understood the heresy of the one whome they follow in one sense or the other , that Engineer “Ali: Mirza: is inspired by Lahorites if not one of the Lahorites.

TO THE FOLLOWERS OF THE ENGINEER “ALI: MIRZA HOW MANY EVIDENCES DO YOU REQUIRE BEFORE YOU ARE CONVINCED THAT ENGINEER “ALI: MIRZA: IS A HERECTIC AND A TRATOR. Page 7 of 8

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DO YOU STILL REQUIRE PROOFS AND EVIDENCES? FOR THE SAKE OF ‘ALL-H PLEASE DO NOT FOLLOW HIM ANY MORE OTHER WISE THIS HERETIC SHALL SPOIL YOUR FAITH. PERHAPS HE HAS ALREADY SPOILED THE FAITH OF MANY. PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN TO HIS LECTURES UNLESS AND OTHERWISE YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT KNOWLEDGE TO REFUTE HIS HERESIES AND HETERODOXIES.

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