CISCO – Data, Digital and AI… the journey
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Data, Digital and AI… the journey Dr. Christian Vogt, is Cisco’s Chief Innovation Officer of Data & Analytics, responsible for driving the adoption of digital, analytics, and artificial intelligence at Cisco…
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cross the globe and every sector, enterprises are looking to transform their operations
and offerings through the harnessing of data-driven, digital technologies. For many, the necessity to digitally transform is seen as a competitive edge in the marketplace. For others, it is simply a case of transform or die. Either way, no one wants to, or could afford to, ignore the potential of digital. But, away from the headline-grabbing technologies that drive this trend, what does innovation and transformation actually look like at ground level? Cisco is an American multinational technology conglomerate that sells networking, collaboration, and cybersecurity hardware and software. Cisco’s technology is utilized in industries as diverse as smart cities and transporta-
improve its own innovation while boosting
tion, healthcare and manufacturing, finan-
growth and profitability?
cial services and retail, government and education. Cisco helps its clients to adapt to an
We caught up with Dr. Christian Vogt, Cisco’s Chief Innovation Officer of Data & Analytics at his Silicon Valley office.
ever changing world by providing the
Christian is responsible for driving the
building blocks of a digital ecosystem that
adoption of digital, analytics, and artificial
allows more agile and efficient commu-
intelligence at Cisco, and for incubating
nication alongside operational prowess.
and scaling the capabilities needed to
But what about Cisco itself? What does
accomplish this, both inside his organ-
transformation look like inside this Silicon
ization and across the company. Some
Valley giant, and how does it successfully
of these technologies are developed
harness data-driven, digital technology to
by Cisco’s own engineers, while others
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are the result of built-in partnerships. To achieve the latter, Christian has established an open-innovation arm that partners closely with world-class startups and venture capital firms in Silicon Valley and beyond. “My goal is to make us a more data-driven, digitally enabled, and artificial-intelligence-powered company,” Christian explains. “There are essentially three reasons behind this,” he reveals. “Firstly, we want to drive growth and profitability right across the company. Secondly, we want to accelerate Cisco’s transformation to a recurring-revenue company,
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pivoting from a purely systems business
is important. Then we jointly prioritize
to increasingly a purveyor of subscrip-
based on alignment with corporate strat-
tion software and network-as-a-ser-
egy, as well as potential and feasibility.”
vice. And thirdly, we want to drive data
One of the key decisions Christian
literacy across the company, by moti-
and his team have to address pertains
vating and enabling our colleagues all
to build-versus-buy solutions. “Some
across Cisco to make decisions based
solutions must be built in-house, while
on, and communications through, data,
others are better developed through
while also measuring results and impact
partnership,” he reveals. “However, if it’s
based on data too.”
a ‘buy’ decision, we go and find potential
Christian leads two teams that work
partners and do our due diligence. Once
hand in hand to accomplish these three
one or two partners have been short-
objectives. One is a team that acts as a
listed, we proceed to arrange a pilot. And,
trusted partner to the business functions
if everything goes well and the pilot is
on all things involving digital, analytics
successful, we scale the use of the tech-
and artificial intelligence. Cisco Venture
nology in terms of number of users and
Labs works closely with business leaders
geographic footprint.”
to discuss and prioritize opportunities to
Another key part of Cisco Venture
generate value from these technologies.
Labs is an external network of startups,
“We then go out and find solutions for
venture capital firms and academia,
each opportunity, do our due diligence,
which enables Cisco to not only iden-
and finally pilot and scale the use of the
tify potential partners to work with, but
solutions in production,” says Christian.
to stay on top of emerging technol-
“These business leaders are our stake-
ogies including novel use-cases and
holders, and we meet with them on a
best practices for deployment. “We
regular basis and use these conversa-
learn much from our external network,”
tions to understand what is working well,
Christian explains. “The startups,
what is not working well, and where they
venture capital firms, and universities
face challenges that can be addressed
are our external network, and the lead-
with new technology. We also use the
ers of Cisco’s various business functions
meetings to explain what these technolo-
are our internal network. We are in the
gies can, and cannot, do for them. There
middle: essentially acting as the match-
is a lot of hype, of course, and so the latter
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Christian’s second team, Community
forward, a significant portion of the value
Success, drives data literacy across the
created from our data would come from
company, for all roles and at every level.
advanced-analytics and artificial-intel-
“We do this with a portfolio of educa-
ligence applications,” he explains. “So,
tional programs, an array of global events
we wanted to drive the adoption of these
that run on a regular basis throughout
technologies beyond a pilot here and
the year, and various tools we provide to
there, and instead operationalize them at
help data practitioners be successful and
scale.” However, deploying advanced-an-
collaborate efficiently. A big part of being
alytics and artificial-intelligence applica-
data-literate is about asking the right
tions requires a very different and signifi-
questions, understanding which data is
cantly more comprehensive process than
relevant, and interpreting data critically.”
deploying data and business intelligence
Two and a half years ago, Cisco
tools. “These are not just new technol-
decided to establish its Data & Analytics
ogies,” Christian says. “You also need a
Office as the company wanted to be
new approach, and a set of fresh capa-
more data-driven than they had been in
bilities, to deploy these technologies
the past. “The initial focus was very much
successfully at scale,” he explains. “The
on data,” Christian explains. “The office
typical data and business intelligence
defined and implemented the master data
tools are dashboards and comparatively
as a ‘single point of truth’ for the company,
straightforward to deploy, but this is very
established data governance, and began
different to when you move to advanced
to provision self-service tools to let busi-
analytics and artificial intelligence
ness analysts across Cisco consume the
because these use cases are generally
data. Then, the office started to develop
operational and embedded into business
a range of business intelligence appli-
processes, which means you will end up
cations that make use of the data, help-
changing the way people work, day to
ing leaders across Cisco to make more
day.”
informed decisions.” Christian’s entrance to Cisco coincided
The deployment of advanced-analytics and artificial-intelligence appli-
with the company’s decision to lever-
cations therefore requires a consulta-
age advanced analytics and artificial
tive approach. You cannot simply build
intelligence more meaningfully across
the application and wait for adoption;
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stakeholders through the change. This is the hard part that many companies struggle with. “The journey we go through, together with our business stakeholders, which prioritizes, validates, operationalizes, and scales these technologies, is as important as, if not more important than, the technologies themselves. We call it the ‘stakeholder journey’. This is reminiscent of the term ‘customer journey’ that our colleagues inside go-to-market functions use because, at the end of the day, our stakeholders are the internal customers of the Data & Analytics Office. Executed well, one successful initiative of advanced analytics and artificial intelligence will generate demand for further initiatives. So, in a way, the stakeholder journey becomes a flywheel for the adoption of new technology.” According to Christian, everything starts with the external network: startups, venture capital firms, academia, leading vendors, likeminded corporates – in order to identify emerging technologies, novel, high-impact use-cases for these technologies, and proven best practices for deployment and scaled operationalization of these use-cases. “Some technologies we build ourselves, some come from leading vendors, and a good portion come from startups at the cutting edge of innovation,” he explains. “One reason C i s c o – Data , Di gital and AI… t h e jour ney
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“ At the end of the day, this needs to be a needs-driven exercise. You need to find problems that are really keeping people up at night – stuff that is not working today – and then find a solution” — Dr. C h ri st i an Vogt C h i ef I n novat ion Officer of Data & Analy t i c s , Cis co
behind working with venture firms, and
by investors. At that stage, startups will
not just with startups, is because they are
also have a number of paying customers
our amplifier. They help us find the start-
already. The sweet spot for us is series
ups we are looking for.”
A and series B. Why? Because, at these
There are a number of key criteria
stages, the startups have, on one hand,
Cisco uses to select startups to work
already proven themselves, whilst on the
with. “We ignore the whole seed-stage
other hand, they’re still young enough to
startup space because, for us, there is too
treat you as a priority customer.”
much risk. We want startups to have gone
Armed with all this information, Cisco
through two funding rounds, meaning
also reaches out to its internal stake-
they have already been endorsed twice
holders. The goal? To build a trusted
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relationship with leaders across Cisco
To get the discussion started, Christian
for whom digital technologies, advanced
and his team might bring a few examples
analytics, and artificial intelligence
from the startup space that could poten-
could be a game-changer. “The goal is
tially be interesting for them just to get
to become the trusted advisor for all
the discussion going and get the “crea-
things advanced analytics and artificial
tive juices flowing”. “At the end of the day,
intelligence for our business stakehold-
this needs to be a needs-driven exercise.
ers,” says Christian. “And that includes
You need to find problems that are really
a number of things, such as education.
keeping people up at night – stuff that is
‘What can this technology do for me? And
not working today – and then find a solu-
what can it not do for me?’”
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your stakeholders, you should get to a
is aligned with corporate strategy, you
point where you start to understand the
can be certain that people will invest the
stakeholders’ work. What is working well,
resources to make it successful. If some-
what is not working well and where these
thing is not aligned with corporate strat-
new technologies and digital intelligence
egy, you can be certain that, after the
can help them.”
initial excitement, this will quickly wear off
Having identified these use-cases, there is then a need for prioritization. “You can’t start everywhere at once,
and people will lose track of it. So, it has to be aligned with corporate strategy.” The other two dimensions are potential
and so you prioritize upon three criteria:
and feasibility. Potential in terms of the
potential, feasibility and alignment with
return-on-investment Cisco can extract
corporate strategy. The latter is impor-
from this, and the feasibility of just how
tant, yet often overlooked. If something
likely this will succeed. “Has this business
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still high feasibility. And the third would be the ‘big bets’ or use-cases with high potential and low feasibility. These are the riskiest ones. Then, almost as a part of this, you decide if this is going to be bought off the market or built in-house. It doesn’t make sense to build in-house if a good fit already exists. And by a good fit, I mean, it’s a technology that does what it’s supposed to do, that scales and is sufficiently customizable to Cisco’s needs. Will the team make a good, trusted, longterm partner for all of Cisco? If that is available, there is no reason in the world to reinvent the wheel in-house. It would always take you longer and you would nearly always pay more overall, end to end. If a partner is not available, or if the use-case is very Cisco-specific, then you have to build it yourself. And we have a stakeholder already done something
team of data scientists, data engineers
with artificial intelligence in the past?
and software engineers who can do this.”
Have they had experience with change
Ensuring you have the right team in
management and transforming the way
place is crucial to any pilot of a new
they work? Maybe they have used some
technology, and at Cisco an emphasis
other digital technology before. Using
is placed on a cross-functional group of
this prioritization criteria, you will know
early adopters needed to make things
pretty quickly which use-cases are the
happen. “We work with data, and data is
no-brainers; the ones keenly aligned with
sensitive,” Christian explains. “There is
corporate strategy, with a high return on
a lot of sensitivity around it in terms of
investment, and a high feasibility. The
privacy and legal requirements, and so
second pocket would be the low-hang-
the team is always very cross-functional.
ing fruit; the ones with less potential, but
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the IT organization, but security too, as both have to sign off on this, in validating the new technology to reach our security standards. It’s actually quite rigorous at Cisco, as you can imagine. The privacy office is also included, if personal data is involved, be it from employees, suppliers, or customers; human resources is also going to be a part of this. In some countries, the workers councils are going to be part of this too. And then, obviously, you have the procurement organization as well and sometimes legal is also involved. So, now we have IT, infosec, privacy, legal, HR, workers councils, procurement, and the Data & Analytics Office. That’s a highly cross-functional team. And for many of these products you actually have to have someone from each of these organizations at the table. So, the best way to do this is if we have a contact person, a liaison, inside each of these organizations.” The big difference between piloting an application and operationalizing that application at scale is that now you can’t just work with the early adopters anymore. Now everyone has to use the application, and this is where change management becomes paramount during this stakeholder journey. “You need to work hand in hand with your business stakeholders to make sure the C i s c o – Data , Di gital and AI… t h e jour ney
“ The journey we go through, together with our business stakeholders, which prioritizes, validates, operationalizes, and scales these technologies, is as important as, if not more important than, the technologies themselves. We call it the ‘stakeholder journey’” — Dr. C h ri st i a n Vogt Ch i ef I n novation Officer of Data & Analy t i c s, Cis co
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“ You need to work hand in hand with your business stakeholders to make sure the employees understand what is happening and how to use it. They actually get a little excited about it as well” — Dr. C h ri st i an Vogt C h i ef I n novation Officer of Data & Analy t i c s , Cis co
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employees understand what is happening and how to use it. They actually get a little excited about it as well. As part of this, it’s usually a good idea to talk and write about it as well. Essentially, frame it as a success story, which at that point, it is, because they’ve already shown through the pilot that this is working. And then you publish this, at least internally, maybe even externally, as this will kill two, if not three birds, with one stone. Number one, by just publishing it and making it a success story, you get the employees excited. The second benefit is, because you’re publishing this at least internally, other potential stakeholders will see it and might come to you and say, ‘Hey, can we do something like this as well?’ So, it becomes a marketing tool for yourself. And, thirdly, if you choose to publish this externally, the same applies for your external network. Startups, venture capital firms, perhaps universities might reach out to you, or at least it will become easier for you to reach out to them, in order to sign them up for your external network. And this closes the circle. Because by publishing your success, you actually seed the next success too.”
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