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Welcome to issue 18 of Interface This month’s cover exclusive features Sangya Singh, Chief Experience Officer and Director of Product Management, Dynamics 365 Customer Insights at Microsoft who takes us ‘behind the scenes’ as she reveals how Microsoft achieves design-thinking-driven digital transformation… “The need for transformation is greater now than ever before. We are facing problems around the world that can be solved only through innovation: whether it is unaffordable and unavailable health care or energy usage that outpaces what we can support, to education systems that fail many students, to companies and organisations whose traditional setup are being disrupted by new emergent technologies or demographic change or global pandemic like COVID-19. All these problems have people at their heart. They require human-centred, creative, iterative and practical approaches to find the best ideas and solutions that will democratise the benefits of technology and bring in equity to all. Design thinking is just such an approach to innovation. It requires a different type of leadership style and culture in place; an effective innovation culture is one where we are willing to set aside our initial conception or understanding of what the problem is…” Plus! We have exclusive executive insights from Moneta , Les Mills and Fiserv, as well as the Top 5 Financial Security Challenges of 2020 and in-depth guide to AI strategies. There’s a lot to get through!
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Microsoft: Creative innovation through systematic design thinking to solve human problems Sangya Singh, Chief Experience Officer and Director of Product Management, Dynamics 365 Customer Insights at Microsoft takes us ‘behind the scenes’ as she reveals how Microsoft achieves design-thinking-driven digital transformation…
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T
he need for transformation is
by looking at the competitive landscape
greater now than ever before.
and gaps in our products and have had
We are facing problems around
success as we’ve added value. At a large
the world that can be solved only through
company like Microsoft there is a need
innovation: whether it is unaffordable and
to continue to do that and balance that
unavailable health care or energy usage
with discovery-based innovation. True
that outpaces what we can support,
innovation comes about when you apply
to education systems that fail many
a systematic methodology like design
students, to companies and organiza-
thinking to discover and solve unartic-
tions whose traditional setup are being
ulated and latent user needs. Leaders
disrupted by new emergent technolo-
now look to innovation as a principal
gies or demographic change or global
source of differentiation and competitive
pandemic like COVID-19. All these prob-
advantage.
lems have people at their heart. They
Design thinking used to be the process
require human-centered, creative, itera-
of just creating designs potentially limited
tive and practical approaches to find the
to design discipline. Today it is broadly
best ideas and solutions that will democ-
used as a systematic process that is reli-
ratize the benefits of technology and
able and repeatable for creating solutions
bring in equity to all.
utilizing creative problem-solving tech-
Design thinking is just such an approach
niques where all disciplines participate.
to innovation. It requires a different type
It is not about validating preconceived
of leadership style and culture in place;
hypotheses but to help experimenters
an effective innovation culture is one
learn something new from each itera-
where we are willing to set aside our initial
tion. It is powered by thorough under-
conception or understanding of what the
standing and through direct observation,
problem is. Where we lean in with curi-
of what people want and need in their
osity and observe and study ourselves
lives and what they like or dislike about
on how users experience the problem in
the way particular solutions and prod-
the real world; a process that allows us to
ucts are made, packaged, marketed,
develop empathy for their situation and
sold and supported. Simply put, it is a
then we can figure out what creates value
discipline that uses the designer’s sensi-
for their customers. We have all built the
bility and methods to match people’s
next version of our service or product
needs with what is a technologically
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“ The first dimension is if it’s real. Is there a market for it? Is this addressing a real customer need? How will you add value to users?” — S angya Si ngh C hief Ex perience Officer an d D i re c to r of P ro duc t M anagement , Dy na mic s 365 C usto m e r I n s i ghts at M i c ro s oft
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feasible and viable business strategy that
and uncertainty caused by the current global
converts into customer value and market
pandemic. My team released three high-
opportunity.
value solutions: Return to the workplace,
I have led multiple strategic efforts
Hospital Emergency Response Solution
at Microsoft over the last 18 years and
and Regional Emergency Response &
every time they’ve created something
Monitoring solution that organizations
truly innovative and differentiated, it was
could rely on for their day-to-day opera-
the outcome of the team going through
tions. In each of these cases, even when
the human-centered discovery process,
time was of crucial essence we always
numerous iterative cycles and hard work
had what we called ‘client zero’ from
of prototyping, testing and refinement.
day one that we engaged with multiple
I was recently asked to lead creation of
times a week through all the phases of
solutions for healthcare organizations,
exploring the problem, creating multi-
local & state governments and global
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“ But true innovation comes about when you apply a systematic methodology like design thinking to discover and solve unarticulated and latent user needs” — S an g ya Si ngh Ch i ef Exp erience Officer and Dire c to r of P ro d uct Ma na gement , Dyna m i c s 365 C u stomer Insights at Micros oft
wanted to start the release with. Similarly,
while still balancing and addressing key
I contributed to the new revolution we are
customer asks and gaps in our products.
seeing around remote work or the “new
So, let’s take a quick sneak peek into
norm” and the use of Microsoft Teams
what a systematic approach looks like. It
by releasing modern powerful Microsoft
is divided into 3 phases; Explore, Create
Power Platform horizontal apps in Teams
and Implement. I am so enthusiastic and
to spark users’ and organizations’ imag-
passionate regarding the explorative and
ination around how to increase their
creative element of the first two phases.
tech intensity and digitize their busi-
The Exploration phase is where you need
ness processes in Teams. Prior to that
to fall in love with the problem at hand and
my team reimagined and delivered how
not jump quickly to designing the solution.
time management surfaces on mobile
This involves the use of lots of different
and desktop web evolve to meet the
techniques to remove your own biases by
needs of our users across work and life. We managed to do all these innovations
• observation and interviews with all stakeholders
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• creating stakeholder maps
generate ideas. The best results come
• decomposition of the interview into
when it is an inclusive exercise by all
insights and patterns of user needs • journey maps for jobs to be done across multiple user types and
disciplines with the combination of giving folks focused individual deep-thinking exploration to coming together and brain-
• clearly documenting main and lead
storming and building on each other’s
user types and their emotional and
ideas. Brainstorming, storyboarding,
functional needs.
sketching and decomposition of user
The outcome of this phase is clearly
feedback are a few techniques to apply.
articulate target users (mainstream users,
Then we group the ideas into themes
lead users and extreme users), emotional,
to see concepts developing and start
functional and latent needs and to iden-
doing quick early prototyping to get user
tify opportunities to go after.
feedback. We’ve learned through vari-
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feedback from users early is an absolute must as it allows us to course correct
spark emotional connection. Then we have our classic
and fail forward fast as we might not have
Implementation phase where we build
understood user needs well or risk creat-
the actual release candidate, documen-
ing high-fidelity prototypes that we fall
tation, marketing site and partner & field
in love with. The goal here is to test for
strategy. There are times my team and
learning and not test to validate your idea.
I have identified the needs, and created
We iteratively develop the concepts with
a product that fulfills it and it still doesn't
user feedback and end up with an alpha
take off as well as expected. In some
prototype after several iterations. That
cases, it didn’t take off because there's
alpha prototype then goes through visual
no emotional connection. So, aesthetics
designs and aesthetic exploration to
does play a role. Great design satisfies
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have formed in school and their personal life and bring it to work for easy user adoption and frictionless onboarding. So, you can see that innovation is not a random spark of brilliance but a systematic process through multiple iterative phases with clear activities and outcomes defined that is reliable and repeatable so we can create innovation on demand. both our needs and our desires. Time and
So why is it hard to innovate and why is
again we see successful products are not
everyone not able to do it? Firstly, design
only first to market but first to appeal to us
thinking is hard because it is unnatural to
emotionally and functionally. I hear a lot
put your bias aside. It is unnatural to not
that maybe enterprise software doesn’t
fall in love with your idea. It is unnatural
need the consumer gradable experience.
to conclude what you have been explor-
But we’ve learned that this is not true
ing is not worth developing. To over-
as the demographics change on us and
come that you have to apply a systematic
people demand similar easy-to-use expe-
process and framework that the team
riences across both work and life. In fact, I
goes through that is proven to remove
would argue it is a great strategy to lever-
bias. Secondly, it’s important to develop
age the user experience habits our users
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“ The Exploration phase is where you need to fall in love with the problem at hand and not jump quickly to designing the solution” — Sa ngya Si ngh Chief Ex perience Offic e r an d D i re c to r of P ro duc t Management , Dy na mic s 365 C usto m e r I n s i ghts at M i c ro s oft
disciplines and up and down your lead-
every detail of the experience to reduce
ership chain. A great design thinker is
cognitive overload and user adoption.
empathetic and can imagine the world
They experiment and iterate fast and are
from multiple perspectives and can envi-
very collaborative. They are not afraid
sion solutions that are inherently desir-
to put some out that is not perfect and
able and meet explicit and latent needs.
polished to learn. They lead with curiosity
They are optimistic, no matter how chal-
and not judgement. We know significant
lenging the constraints are in that at least
innovations don’t come from incremen-
one potential solution is better than the
tal tweaks, we need leaders and indi-
existing alternatives. They obsess about
viduals with a mindset that can explore
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FIND OUT MORE Designing high value solutions a v a i l a b l e i n M i c r o s o f t Te a m s t o transform business processes in the digital workspace.
constraints in creative ways. And lastly,
secondary and latent needs. The second
I learned a useful framework we learned
dimension is if you can win. Can we
at Mastering Design Thinking at MIT; the
develop a solution that is technically
three-innovation challenge framework
feasible and also better than what the
to think about what constitutes truly
competition or whatever the user is habit-
successful innovation. Real-Win-Worth
ual to today? The third dimension is if it
it framework. The first dimension is if
is worth it. Is there a viable and sustain-
it’s real. Is there a market for it? Is this
able business model? Will we be able to
addressing a real customer need? How
make profit or gain market or user share
will you add value to users? It requires
to pay back all the investments we are
you to talk and observe actual custom-
making. Here we also think about the
ers; mainstream users, lead users and
environmental sustainability impact of our
extreme users across different market
product and service and its supporting
segments to understand their primary,
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My current role sees me working with AI in the customer data platform and customer experience space, helping organizations glean insights into their customers. Microsoft customers are large enterprises who through many years and acquisitions have data about their customers locked into many different data silos. It can be customer interaction data from different transactional systems like point of sales, customer service, marketing automation to behavioral signals coming from the company’s website and mobile app. That data can reveal how customers are experiencing your product and services individually and holistically. Today, that data is all over the place and they don't have one unified view that every team can leverage as they make business decisions to better serve their customers. We take those data silos and through our AI powered Dynamics Customer Insights product, unify all this data in a very seamless way and generate insights. What I am most excited about is the opportunity of how we democra-
Sangya Singh Chief Experience Officer and Director of Product Management, Dynamics 365 Customer Insights at Microsoft Chief Experience Officer and Director of Product Management, for Dynamics 365 Customer Insights. Dynamics 365 Customer Insights enables organization to unify and understand their customer data and harness it for intelligent insights and actions. Seasoned leader with over 27 years’ experience across consulting and building world class products and services like Power Platform, Dynamics 365, Microsoft 365, Outlook and Sharepoint. Known for being a creative product innovator and multiplier of talent that leads with human centered design thinking and optimizes for fast pragmatic iterative business results towards a great vision.
tize AI in a responsible way so regular business users can take advantage of it without being a data scientist. It’s this time to value and empowering the business users with data and AI that is easy to adopt and earns their trust is what excites me to come to work every day.
Credits and work consulted for this article: • C layton Christensen on Jobs to be done framework • Tim Brown on Design Thinking • MIT on Mastering Design Thinking • R ita Gunther McGrath on Discoverydriven planning • A ccenture and Avanade Human centered design studio and partnership
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Trust is a priceless commodity and is by far the most powerful human emotion our Microsoft brand stands for. I am so happy to be contributing and evangelizing the Chief Experience Officer leadership role; a unique brand of Product Management senior leaders that will become more and more critical and common as leaders leverage them as part of their differentiated strategy to deliver successful and disruptive innovation.
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Banking on a positive partnership Moneta Money Bank's CIO, Jiri Mizera, describes the successes the company has enjoyed, in spite of the pandemic, thanks to its collaboration with Fiserv
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Nell Walker
Produced by
Alex Page
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T
he past six months has been a
with their own plans for improvement and
time of change for us all, but the
expansion when many others have had
digital banking sector has experi-
to press pause. Now, with the business
enced an unexpected shove in the direc-
world beginning to see the light at the end
tion it was already moving in. Lockdowns
of the tunnel, banks are actually thriv-
all over the world meant businesses
ing; this is certainly the case for Moneta
remained shut for weeks or months,
Money Bank, a trailblazer in the market.
taking all exchanges of money online,
We spoke with CIO, Jiri Mizera, about
and even now, many bricks-and-mortar
the company’s digital transformation,
businesses which have since reopened
and its collaboration with Fiserv which
aren’t accepting cash. Banks and digi-
has helped it to stay on course during a
tal financial services have been able to
pandemic.
reap the benefits of this, and forge ahead
Mo n eta M oney Bank
Moneta is the fourth largest bank in
the Czech Republic in terms of number
strategy and the ongoing improvement
of clients, serving around one 1,500,000
of the bank of the future, in its own right;
retail customers, as well as 10,000 small
currently, it’s full steam ahead with creat-
businesses and entrepreneurs. Formerly
ing refinancing and mortgage services
GE Money Bank, Moneta went IPO in
online – basically, almost all of the prod-
2016, and its main goal was to become
ucts in its portfolio can be offered either
a digital innovator in the Czech market
fully online, or as a hybrid digital/physical
– something it has certainly achieved.
service.
Now, it provides extensive digital program
Moneta has tackled digital transforma-
and job transformation information, and
tion in the most successful way it knows
was the first bank to introduce current
how – it started with a vision of what it
accounts online in the region back in
wanted to deliver, and set up strategic
2017. Moneta is deeply focused on digital
goals to achieve that, tackling challenges
“ We are very customer-centric, which is proven by our rankings” — J i ri Mizera
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as they appeared. It was never a case of just hoping that positive results would come to the business; the strategy is continuously being updated, and the though process is always ‘what do we want to achieve?’, followed by ‘how can we enable that?’. Mizera himself joined Moneta in 2017 as the Head of Commercial Digital Banking. For almost two years, he worked closely with entrepreneur clients, mostly, and implemented business unsecured loan, overdraft and credit card services, fully online, for both existing and new Moneta customers. “It was very appreciated by them,” says Mizera, humbly. “When that project was finished, it was agreed that I’d be promoted to Chief Strategic Change Officer. ” In March this year, Mizera was promoted once again, to CIO.
A sustainable outlook The biggest task in the last two years,
Moneta uses something called a multi-
for Mizera, has been the implementa-
card solution, which means it moves all of
tion of a new card management system
its processing into the Fiserv data centre,
platform for all cards related operations,
integrated with Amazon Web Services
with Fiserv as partner. Moneta is an early
cloud, where Moneta is moving the major-
adopter of top-tier technologies such
ity of its operations, providing something
as ApplePay or GooglePay; meanwhile,
close to software-as-a-service. “With that
the Czech Republic is one of the lead-
approach, we have reduced our running
ing countries in e-shop penetrations and
costs dramatically,” Mizera explains. “It
contactless payments usage. Therefore,
also allows us a great platform with all
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“ It has been an honour to work with the professionals at Fiserv” — Ji ri Mi zera Moneta money ba nk
the same platform.” He admits that this
country only has three EVs per 10,000
wasn’t his own idea – it was down to the
people; in France and Germany, it’s
board of directors, especially the CEO
three per 1,000 people. One of the major
– but it feeds into Mizera’s future-orien-
issues is that there aren’t enough charg-
tated vision for Moneta. “Sharing an infra-
ing points across the country, so despite
structure with top-tier banks across the
the interest of civilians and businesses,
globe is really big thing for us, and, overall,
it’s not a viable choice for many. This
reduction of costs between banks is quite
is where innovators like Moneta come
innovative. When Fiserv explained whole
in – the company has made the choice
concept, we were definitely in”
to use electric vehicles for the sake of
That future-orientated outlook extends
the environment, which is precisely the
beyond the internal workings of Moneta
kind of bold move which makes broader
and into the way it physically operates.
change and will push those in charge to
Interestingly for a bank, it is the company
install more charging points, thus push-
with the biggest electric car fleet in the
ing the EV market in the Czech Republic
country – around 70 cars. “The decision
and allowing it to catch up with the rest of
behind that was mainly to do with sustain-
Europe in its adoption.
ability,” Mizera says. “Cost comes into it
It’s this attitude which has helped
too, but the sustainability aspect is reso-
cement Moneta as the most digitally-ad-
nating across Europe, so it’s a wise solu-
vanced, forward-thinking bank. “We are
tion for the environment.”
very customer-centric, which is proven
Interest in electric cars (EVs) as been
by our rankings,” Mizera says. “We really
mounting, in the Czech Republic, but
tackled our digital transformation from
they’re far from an everyday sight on the
a positive angle, with the goal of deliver-
road. According to Delta-EE.com, the
ing something, and set up a strategy to
Mo n eta M oney Bank
achieve that. That strategy is regularly
the agile way of working that changed –
updated, made possible by how agile we
for the better – led by customer feedback.
are as a business.”.”
We were able to implement the support of government guarantees, thanks to
The impact of COVID-19
our drive towards agile working, and we
Of course, a digital transformation never
achieved amazing market share of 15% -
really ends – it just continues to evolve. At
more than double our usual market share,
the beginning of this year, before COVID-
which is roughly six per cent.”
19 became something that changed all
Moneta’s success during COVID-19
of our lives dramatically, Moneta had a
doesn’t end there; its partnership with
strong, clear road map in mind; when
Fiserv allowed Moneta to implement its
the pandemic hit, surprisingly – and
FirstVision migration – its move to the
impressively – little of that changed.
cloud, as touched on earlier – even during
“Strategically, the plan remained very
this global crisis. “It was something we
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explains Mizera. “The change itself has been huge, for several reasons. Firstly, there were more than 28,000 mendays on call, and more than 200 people – during peak times – which, of course, is pretty challenging. We were delivering whole solution impacting 28+ of banking systems around nine agile teams delivering integrated demos, every six weeks. I believe that was one of the reasons why the implementation was successful, because we were always able to deploy, on time, a workable solution. That was a good experience.” There were challenges, of course, but Moneta foresaw these, and set up the window for migration a long tine in
and we didn’t know how the situation was
advance. Another boon was that Fiserv
going to go, but we needed to support
has huge experience in transformations
our clients. Obviously, we decided to
such as these, and helped Moneta to
go ahead with the migration but run it
run, essentially, dress rehearsals – four
completely off-site – which, I believe, was
training sessions in preparation for the
a first for Fiserv. After my son’s birth, it
migration weekend – for the teams. There
was definitely the most challenging time
were, in Mizera’s words, “a thousand
of my life! But it was really successful,
tasks which needed to be done” between
and it has been an honour to work with
Friday evening and Monday morning,
the professionals at Fiserv and the whole
but the company and its trusted partner
team. It was really ‘fire of our life’ as my
achieved what it wanted to achieve.
boss Albert Van Veen once said.”
“I have to give credit to everyone involved – we all agreed that it was almost
The results
unbelievable that we managed that inte-
Post-implementation, FirstVision has
gration in given conditions,” Mizera says.
proven stable – a primary concern after
“The pandemic added a lot of pressure,
a huge implementation. After watching
Mo n eta M oney Bank
the new system closely for the first
accepted. A lot has changed, more
few months, everything has worked
recently, because we’re able to sign
out smoothly, and Moneta continues to
contracts digitally and accept much more
receive strong support from Fiserv. As an
advanced credit scoring. And, of course,
added bonus, Moneta is already seeing
when you consider how COVID-19 has
the financial benefits of having made this
pushed remote approvals, that has defi-
change, and will continue to do so – after
nitely changed customer nature. We have
all, the push towards digital banking has
a huge online portfolio, now, so we’re
only been accelerated by COVID-19.
entirely ready for the continued change in
“Going digital has created a huge change in the target operating model,
customer needs. “This transformation isn’t finished – it
and in customer behaviour,” says Mizera.
won’t ever be – and we’re always adjust-
“Even in the Czech market, we had a lot
ing to what the customers need accord-
of new banks, in the past, who were able
ing to their feedback. We take that feed-
to offer, for example, current accounts
back very seriously, and this is why I
online but they couldn’t be fully online
believe we will continue to be successful
because the digital signature was not
in the future.” www.theinterface.net
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Risk versus impact the seven sins of enterprise AI strategies
Ri sk ve rsus impact t h e seven sins of enter p r i s e A I st rategi es
With virtually all companies looking at AI, what are some of the key risks they need to consider before implementation? Written by
By Jeremy Barnes, Element AI
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1– DISOWNING THE AI STRATEGY
Jeremy Barnes
This is probably the most important
Element AI
sin. In this case, a CEO and board will say that AI is a priority, but delegate it to a different department or an inno-
T oday virtually all companies are forced to innovate and many are
vation lab. However, success is not based on
excited about AI. Yet since imple-
whether or not a company uses an inno-
mentation cuts across organisational
vation lab—it’s whether they are truly
boundaries, shifting to an AI-driven
invested in it. The bottom line is that the
strategy requires new thinking about
CEO and board need to actively lead an
managing risks, both internally and
AI strategy.
externally. This blog will cover “the seven sins of enterprise AI strategies”, which are governance issues at the board and executive levels that block companies from moving ahead with AI.
2- IGNORING THE UNKNOWNS This happens when companies say they believe in AI, but don’t reach a level of proficiency where it’s possible to identify, characterise and model the threats that emerge with new advances. Even if it is decided not to go all-in Ri sk ve rsus impact t h e seven sins of enter p r i s e A I st rategi es
on AI innovation, it’s still important that
increased risk in exchange for impact
there is a hypothesis for how to address
but it will come as part of the continuous
AI within a company and an early warn-
cultural enablement of an experimental
ing system so the decision can be
mindset.
re-evaluated early enough to act. Being izational preparation and lead time as
4- STARTING WITH THE SOLUTION
leadership.
This is the most common sin. It’s impor-
a fast follower requires as much organ-
tant to be able to understand the specific problems you’re trying to solve, because AI is unlikely to be a solution for all of them, and especially not blindly implementing a horizontal AI platform. Have the conversation at board level to ensure that an overarching AI strategy, and not simply quick-fix solutions, is the priority.
3- NOT ENABLING THE CULTURE The ability to implement AI is about an experimentation mindset. That and an openness to failure need to be adopted across the company. Organisations need to keep in mind that AI doesn’t respect organisational boundaries. Most companies want high-impact, low-risk solutions that could simply lead to optimising, rather than advancing new value streams. It is hard to accept www.theinterface.com
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5- LOSE RISK, KEEP REWARD As mentioned in the third sin, it is natural for companies to want to implement AI without any risk. But there is no reward without risk. A vendor motivated to decrease risk will also decrease innovation and ultimately impact by making successes small and failures non-existent. AI creates differentiation only for companies that are willing to learn from both their successes and their failures. A company that doesn’t effectively balance risk in AI will ultimately increase its risk of disruption.
6- VINTAGE ACCOUNTING Attempting to fit AI into traditional financial governance structures causes problems. It doesn’t fit nicely into budget categories and it’s hard to value the output. The link between what you put in and what you get out can be less tangible or predictable, which often makes it harder to square with existing plans or structures. Model the rate of return on AI activities and all data-related activities. This demands that these activities affect profit (not just loss) and assets (not just liabilities).
7- TREATING DATA AS A COMMODITY The final sin concerns data and its treatment as a commodity. Data is fundamental to AI. If data is poorly handled, it can lead to negative impacts on decision-making. Data should be treated as an asset. The stronger, deeper and more accurate the dataset, the better models that you can train and more intelligent insights you can generate. But, at the same time, when Ri sk ve rsus impact t h e seven sins of enter p r i s e A I st rategi es
personally identifiable information is stored about customers, it can be stolen, risking heavy penalties in some jurisdictions. You need to build towards data from a use case rather than invest blindly in data centralisation projects. So, now you know what not to do. Here are some of the simple things that you can do to move ahead. First, talk to your board about how long it will take to become an AI innovator, modelling it out, rather than simply discussing it conceptually. Second, prepare for change and put in place monitoring. AI shifts all the time, so you’ll want to regularly check in to adjust and pivot your strategy. It’s important to develop a basic skill set so you can redo planning exercises with your board. Third, model out risks in both action and inaction. But don’t model them in a traditional approach, which is to push risk down to different business units and then compensate those units for reducing risk rather than managing trade-offs. Instead, view those tradeoffs in terms of risks and rewards, and start to think about how you are accounting for the assets and liabilities of AI. Ultimately, you want to start to model what is the actual rate of return for all these activities that you are doing. Then benchmark it against what you see in other companies from across the industry, and that will give you a good picture of the current situation and where to go. www.theinterface.com
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Expe r ti se, engagement and sup p o r t
Expertise, engagement and support Ana-Maria Sturzu, International Head of Issuing at Fiserv, explains why the business was the perfect fit for MONETA Money Bank's digital transformation during a pandemic
Written by
Nell Walker
Produced by
Kiron Chavda
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W
hile the uncertainly and upheaval of a global pandemic could have
deterred MONETA Money Bank from the execution of their digital transformation strategy, the bank chose to adapt and move forward, achieving success with help from global financial services technology provider Fiserv. The expertise of Fiserv and the use of a “virtual team” approach enabled MONETA to achieve their goal of reduced dependency on customized systems, as the bank moved to a Software as a Service solution using the FirstVision™ platform from Fiserv. Teams from both organisations worked to complete the migration using multiple video-conferencing technologies, rather than being co-located as normal. Ana-Maria Sturzu is responsible for the global strategy of issuing product solutions at Fiserv in all regions outside the
migration is different, because each client
US and was at the front line of enabling
is using different technology platforms
MONETA's new direction. Her team
and has unique product offerings, but
manages a technology platform that spans
there are common elements. We have a
the entire customer finance spectrum,
long-standing history in managing port-
from credit, debit, prepaid and commercial
folio migrations behind-the-scenes, with-
cards to consumer loans, instalments, and
out consumer disruption. We're able to do
POS finance, along with a comprehensive
that thanks to the experience and exper-
suite of surround solutions including orig-
tise of our people.”
inations, financial crime, risk management and digital solutions. Sturzu explains, “Each and every client Expe r ti se, engagement and sup p o r t
That expertise makes it fairly straightforward to identify the pain points of the customer, because, despite the
challenges that come alongside working with a variety of customers, in Sturzu's words, “the pain points are pretty much consistent across the industry. We are very familiar with the types of challenges the financial sector has – they're the result of platforms that aren't fit for the future, and they're impeding the client’s growth strategy. Also, there are regulatory and compliance changes that each
“ It’s important to add that transformation never ends. It’s an evolving strategy that needs to be reviewed and updated, constantly”
and every financial institution has to
— A n a- Maria Stu rzu
accommodate every year. Sometimes,
I nte rn ati o n al He ad of I s s ui n g at F i s e r v
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the CTOs and CIOs of the industry
chaotic time for the world, with the COVID-
decide the best way to move forward is
19 virus shutting down business of every
outsourcing the processing to a global
type since March, Fiserv has continued to
payments processor like Fiserv.”
put its clients first. “We're privileged to be
Every financial institution is at a differ-
in a position to reinforce the message and
ent stage in its digital transformation,
the commitment we have to serving our
but each one is certainly forging ahead
clients,” Sturzu says. “We've been able to
with said transformation; it's an inevita-
prove that we're a resilient global strate-
bility. “It's important to add that trans-
gic provider that can help ensure business
formation never ends,” Sturzu adds.
continuity, even in this stressful situation.
“It's an evolving strategy that needs to
We were able to carry on with the migra-
be reviewed and updated, constantly,
tion of MONETA in the midst of the lock-
based on the most recent changes in
down and were able to process the entire
consumer behaviour, emerging trends
move remotely.
and regulatory changes.” Both technol-
“We're also in a position of strength
ogy and finance are incredibly fast-mov-
because we've demonstrated that we have
ing sectors, after all, and Fiserv exists to
the right platform and the right delivery
enable that ongoing digital transforma-
model to address client needs that have
tion, irrespective of where a customer is
emerged during this period.”
in its journey, helping them to accelerate their own business.
There are, and will continue to be, some positive changes as a result of this very difficult time. For one thing, the changes
Surviving and thriving
that were already beginning to happen in
At a potentially very difficult, uncertain,
finance have been given a push in the right
“ MONETA’s tech-savvy approach and the ability to be agile and adapt to the new situation helped propel them over the line at an unprecedented and uncertain time” — A na - M ari a St u rzu Inte r nat ion al Hea d of Issuing at Fis erv
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direction; lockdown boosted digital trans-
speed up their delivery and solutions. And I
actions, and even now, with the world tack-
think we'll be seeing an increased demand
ling a 'new normal', cash usage remains
in the marketplace around flexible finance
reduced. Innovation is moving apace, and
solutions for customers. We're likely to be
financial trends have been fast-tracked;
in an economic downturn for some time,
Fiserv knows this, and has its finger on the
and consumers need that flexibility so they
pulse, keeping itself on the forefront of this
can manage their cashflows and still be
change to ensure it remains flexible and
able to make payments, remotely, without
responsive.
any hassle.”
“There are certain areas where emerging market trends and consumer behav-
The partnership
iour changes have been accelerated,” says
The Fiserv team spent time with
Sturzu. “Definitely digital strategy, digital
MONETA to understand its current path
enablement and engagement with the
and strategy and determine how best
consumer. These were already at the fore-
to move the transformation forward.
front of CTOs' minds and they continue to
“Then, we defined a specific solution
accelerate because face-to-face contact
that met their needs,” Sturzu explains.
in banks is likely to remain extremely
“We agreed on the solution and its bene-
limited. The pandemic reinforced for many
fits and moved quickly onto an execu-
of our clients the imperative to continue to
tion process. We started migrating the capabilities they had on their in-house
“ When lockdown started, we stayed on plan and delivered a smooth migration, and MONETA started to incur savings immediately” — Ana- M a ri a Sturzu Inter nat ion al He ad of Issuing at Fis erv
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platform into our hosted Software-as-aService solution, called FirstVision.” When MONETA decided to migrate to FirstVision, the shift was a significant one; it required changes in over 27 systems and 150+ API services and involved 250+ resources and the migration of over a million cards. “For any transformation of a running business, data transformation and migration are key elements,” says Ramakant Akhairamka, Programme Director at Fiserv. “This is a highly
complex exercise, but the migration
working individually from their homes,
was managed in a way that was seam-
and feedback from MONETA was over-
less to the customers. The program is
whelmingly positive. “Our partnership is
also helping MONETA achieve its objec-
successful due to multiple factors,” says
tive of being a leading digital bank in the
Sturzu. “Firstly, we're able to support
market by providing cutting edge digital
MONETA's strategic transformational
solutions to its customers, such as real-
agenda, which was set in 2016. Secondly,
time onboarding. MONETA’s tech-savvy
they were able to reduce their technol-
approach and the ability to be agile and
ogy platform ownership costs, and thirdly,
adapt to the new situation helped propel
they now have access to a broader solu-
them over the line at an unprecedented
tion set to support their clients and their
and uncertain time.”
business growth strategy.
The FirstVision migration was delivered on time, with most of the team involved
“Moreover, in the last six months since they joined our platform, the management
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“ MONETA and Fiserv worked hard to make that happen. The message, the idea, the approach and the mindset were very positive and collaborative, which is what made this such a success for both of us” — A n a- M aria Stu rzu Inte rn ati o n al H e ad of I s s ui n g at F i s e rv
decision of outsourcing was further positively reinforced. When lockdown started, we stayed on plan and delivered a smooth migration, and MONETA started to incur savings immediately. They saw the benefits of having a global solution, through which they can enable new capabilities and solutions for their customers, and my team worked directly with MONETA’s team to enable additional solutions after they went live on the FirstVision platform.” “I have to give credit to everyone involved – we all agreed that it was almost unbelievable that we managed that integration in such a short time,” Jiri Mizera, CIO MONETA Money Bank says. “The pandemic added a lot of pressure, and we www.theinterface.net
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didn't know how the situation was going to go, but we needed to support our clients. Obviously, we decided to go ahead with the migration but run it completely off-site – which, I believe, was a first. It was definitely challenging, but was really successful, and it has been an honour to work with the professionals at Fiserv.”
Ongoing engagement Something that's very important to Sturzu, and to Fiserv in general, is that the close relationship it develops with clients don't end the moment the migration is complete – that's actually where the hard work begins. “You need to keep it going to be relevant to them and continue to meet their needs. We have an ongoing engagement model that is supported by our relationship management on the ground, and we're constantly in a two-way dialogue with the client. That's ever-evolving.” It's satisfying to see that MONETA and Fiserv both feel positively about their relationship. “We're so happy when we're able to deliver a smooth and successful migration, supporting the client throughout the process,” says Sturzu. “MONETA and Fiserv worked hard to make that happen. The message, the idea, the approach and the mindset were very positive and collaborative, which is what made this such a success for both of us.” Expe r ti se, engagement and sup p o r t
Ana-Maria Sturzu International Head of Issuing Solutions Ana-Maria Sturzu is the Head of International Product division at Fiserv. Ana-Maria is leading the development and innovation strategy of consumer finance issuing solutions offered by Fiserv to Financial Institutions across APAC, EMEA and LATAM. Since joining Fiserv in 2017, she started the transformation of Fiserv’s Global Issuing proposition – First Vision- delivering an API-enabled platform, enhancing the developer’s experience, creating an open architecture and launching innovative digital solutions designed to delight consumers across the globe. Her mission statement is to help clients revolutionise their consumer finance business, delivering cutting edge technology and tuning into the consumer expectations.
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Falling in love with fitness, on demand Written by
Dale Benton
Le s Mi l l s : Falling in love wit h f it nes s , o n d ema n d .
How connectedness and a community are vital to bringing the world together through fitness and exercise...
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I
n what is almost a redundant statement, due to the very obvious nature of it, technology has taken over
every facet of the modern world. From the way we eat (ordering a takeaway or watching a YouTube cooking tutorial) to the way we purchase the very clothes on our backs (via H&M, Zalando etc.), technology is right there as an enabler. In fact, in 2020, global retail sales are projected to amount to around $26.tn dollars, with an estimated 1.9bn people worldwide purchasing goods (including food) or services online. Go back just one year to 2019, and e-retail sales surpassed $3.5tn worldwide. The fact of the matter is, technology has made this possible and it will continue to drive these numbers to almost unimaginable levels. The really fascinating thing about this however, particularly in a year beset by lockdowns and restricted movement outdoors, is how many of these trans-
actions were made from home and how much of that $3.5tn has been spent in the palm of our hands?
Demand for fitness In all the talk of global markets and industry being disrupted and revolutionised by technology we often focus on those trillion dollar ones because they are the traditional ‘big hitter’ industries. Over Le s Mi l l s : Falling in love wit h f it nes s , o n d ema n d .
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the past decade however, one industry
174mn global members. It’s clear to see;
sector has seen incredible growth all over
the health and fitness space is not to be
the world and technology (to no surprise)
sniffed at. One of the biggest, if not the
has seen that growth take on a whole
biggest, ways in which technology has
new level. In 2019, the global fitness and
redefined the fitness industry is through
health club industry exceeded $96bn.
on-demand services. Like everything else
There are more than 201,000 health and
in our lives, we want it and we want it now.
fitness clubs worldwide and more than
But for Jean-Michel Fournier, CEO of
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Les Mills Media, it’s important to remem-
Being able to be part of a community and
ber what people want with their fitness
believing in something bigger than you
experiences before getting lost on
is way more motivating than exercising
working out how to provide that to them
by yourself and not being able to share
through technology.
what you achieve or what you’re doing.
“We are more and more connected,” he
It’s about trying to connect with people
says from his home gym in San Francisco.
who have the same goal, or same expe-
“Connection in fitness is very important.
rience or someone who can advise you. So that community is very important and with technology now you’re able to be engaged and supported by your community, anywhere, anytime.” That sense of a shared community, through health and fitness, defines the very core of Les Mills. Headquartered in Auckland, New Zealand, Les Mills is on a mission to create a fitter planet not by making people work out but by helping people fall in love with fitness so that they want to work out. Les Mills provides workouts that are licensed by 25,000 partners in 100 countries around the world and has a team of 140,000 certified instructors to deliver the likes of BODYPUMP, BODYCOMBAT and GRIT workouts to millions of members. With the future of fitness merging between physical and digital, the company has led the charge in delivering immersive training and workouts on demand. This is where Fournier, a fitness fanatic and a student of Silicon Valley, looks to continuously drive engagement www.theinterface.net
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“ Being able to be part of a community and believing in something bigger than you is way more motivating than exercising by yourself and not being able to share what you achieve or what you're doing� — J e a n - M i ch e l Fourni er C EO, Les M ills Media
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with members and it starts with that
one question; how can we help people
sense of connectedness and love affair
get better access to fitness services. The
with fitness.
answer is through technology.”
“Actually, I don’t really care about tech-
Fournier believes that technology is the
nology. Technology for me is an enabler.
key to democratising fitness services,
Technology’s here to help improve the life
making it truly available to everyone. Les
of our community,” he laughs. “It’s really
Mills offers all of its fitness programs and
my very first company where I’ve seen
workouts, together with advice and FAQs,
how we help people to live a better life.
through a simple and easy to use mobile
To feel better when they wake up in the
and tablet app. This app will capture all
morning, exercise and fall in love with our
kinds of data from its members and their
fitness classes, where people are doing
activity and feed it back to them in a way
BODYPUMP™ and BODYCOMBAT™ on a
that is personalised to each user. While
daily basis and they share their pictures,
we are competitive by our very nature
their achievements, their feelings through
and we do crave the shared community
the community. It’s so exciting when I see
that Fournier speaks of, we all have our
that and that’s what feeds me, honestly.”
own personal goals and our own achievements that we strive for. But how can an
Fitness for pleasure, business or luxury?
app provide personalised experiences
The health and fitness space is notori-
world? The answer is, again, technology.
ously costly and often seen as a luxury,
Specifically Artificial Intelligence and
pricing people out entirely. So surely tech-
Machine Learning.
nology and on demand services would
for well over a million users all over the
“The technology allows us to think
simply follow suit? Fournier recognises
about things that are perhaps within our
this, recalling the unfortunate passing
subconscious that impact our motivation
of his father over the past few years and
to exercise,” says Fournier. “When are we
how that had made him rethink the role of
most motivated to exercise? How does
technology in fitness. “Before my father
our sleeping habits impact our perfor-
passed away, he told me that he wished
mance? At what point during a day am I
he could go back and be in shape and feel
going to get the best results? These are
proud of his physical fitness,” he says.
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better. It’s really opening everyone’s eyes and making that process of falling in love with fitness that little bit more seamless.”
The democratisation of fitness Machine Learning, while not a new concept, is still in its infancy in terms of global implementation. Fournier believes that we are “at the beginning of a tsunami” when it comes to Machine Learning
“ Actually, I don’t really care about technology. Technology for me is an enabler. Technology’s here to help improve the life of our community”
and that when it does become a norm, personalisation will come naturally. He compares the concept of personalisation in fitness to that of other streaming on-demand services like Netflix. Personalisation in those platforms can only stretch as far as presenting films that you like based on your activity, or personal lists you create. In fitness, the variables are so sparse and unique to each individual that a “one service to many” approach simply will not work. “Technology in the fitness spaces
— J e an - M i ch e l Fourni er
creates a sense of accountability with
C EO, Les M ills Media
both the community and the coaches” says Fournier. “You are starting to see more and more coaching platforms out there and we are doing some experimentation with this at Les Mills, where people have a coach in their pocket to help them get the most out of LES MILLS™ On Demand. Now they are connected with the coach and the coach is going
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to communicate directly and check on
help to create this connection between
your performance, on your motivation
your data and your community. There’s
and how you are feeling. They look at the
going to be this golden triangle of infor-
data, see that you’ve done the workout
mation here.”
and congratulate you for it. Then you feel proud and motivated to push forward.” Fournier admits that it also works both
The benefits of technology are clear to see; the personalisation of the user experience comes directly from it, so
ways, thanks to those extremely differ-
Les Mills should just go ahead and throw
ent variables; “Say you haven’t done it,
all of its eggs into the technology basket
the coach can ask you why. It’s because
right? Wrong. Les Mills, since the very
you’re tired, or you’ve hurt yourself. The
beginning back in 1968, is a business
coach can then work with you to adapt
built on the foundations of family and
the workout. So that’s going to create this
community. Right from the top with Phillip
accountability and technology is going to
Mills and his wife Jackie, through to their
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children Diana and Les Jr who also hold
sure you have a good understanding of
senior positions in the company, there
the mission,” says Fournier. “At the end of
is a culture that looks at fitness services
the day if there are people out there tout-
and exercise, marrying that with technol-
ing the next best tech thing in fitness and
ogy to inspire a love of fitness across the
they’re being more successful, good for
world. The technology will never drive
them. At the end of the day the mission for
the business, the community will. This in
Les Mills is not to conquer the world, or to
itself brings an interesting challenge to
be a dominant company. At the end of the
the table, yes Les Mills wants to serve
day, we are here to really help people.”
the world and help each and every one
Les Mills is driven by people, for people.
of us, but it’s also a business and a busi-
That is abundantly clear. Personalisation
ness will also be driven by revenue and
is one challenge that the company faces
bottom line results through innovation.
and for the most part succeeds in, but
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How easy is it for someone to log in to
architecture while working with the best
the CMS, search through the copious
CMS platform out there is critical. Around
amounts of workouts and then stream
four years ago, coinciding with when I
those workouts in a truly seamless expe-
came into the business, we laid down
rience? Les Mills, like many businesses
a very strong and robust platform that
right now, works to provide an omnichan-
can support millions of recurrences and
nel experience for users so they can
millions of subscribers, to be sure we can
indeed access it anytime and anywhere.
provide the quality that our users need
But omnichannel is a word that has
regardless of their situation.”
fallen into the trappings of many other keywords in technology right now. How
Digital convergence
does the company look to move away
The lines between health and fitness
from simply following a trend and offer a
and digital are increasingly blurring and
true omnichannel experience?
reaching a point as to where we may
“It’s hard,” says Fournier. “Not every-
not be able to think about exercise and
body has an internet connection at 100
fitness without a livestream, at home
or 200 megabytes. Not everyone has
experience. As with any technological
the same bandwidth and capabilities to
shift, there is also a generational shift
stream. These days there are a number
running alongside it. It isn’t simply a case
of successful platforms out in the world,
of older generations of gym users and
which makes it easier. Having stream-
fitness professionals suddenly pivoting
ing capabilities and adding a strong
to digital or being alienated as the world
“ H uman nature will always go back to convenience and people will want to go back to the convenience of a fitness club or a class” — J e a n - M i ch e l Fourni er C EO, Les M ills Media
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around them becomes an increasingly
to digital, and we were able to support
digital one. As we have seen in many
these clubs in helping their members to
other industries, it is not that black and
stay active and engaged through a gener-
white and it comes as no surprise that this
ous offer of 60-days’ free access to LES
is something that Les Mills understands
MILLS On Demand. Thanks to the great
more than most.
work we did in previous years in building
“If someone wants to enjoy our content
a robust platform, we could absorb the
on an app, they can. If they want to enjoy
resultant millions of extra recurrences
our content in a live streaming class, they
into our platform and keep the right level
can. If they want to enjoy our content in a
of stability.”
live class with a real instructor they can do it as well,” says Fournier. “At the end of the
Connectivity and the community
day we are a content provider. What we do
For Les Mills, it has always been about
is create amazing fitness choreography
the community and when that community
linked to music and we do so in a way that is truly accessible to all and for all.” In 2020, the world was forced to stand still as it became gripped by the coronavirus pandemic. With lockdowns and restrictions put in place to protect the lives of people the world over, this closed a lot of doors for the likes of restaurants, retail stores and yes; gyms and fitness centres. One could be forgiven for thinking that Les Mills, pioneers in the streaming on demand space for fitness, were well prepared for this and suffered minimal impact from this. “Our customers are those fitness clubs and the community centres that provide Les Mills classes to their communities,” reflects Fournier. “So we were hurt as much as they were when lockdown came in. Everybody moved Le s Mi l l s : Falling in love wit h f it nes s , o n d ema n d .
is forced to stay indoors and to stay
classes. They wanted to talk with their
away from the physical connectedness,
instructors live, so we did a lot of live
the focus changes slightly. Connected
Q&As that were pretty amazing.”
community has always been a corner-
Fournier points to one example where
stone of Les Mills, but in these difficult
the BODYPUMP Program Director, Glen
times the company changed tact and
Ostergaard, presented a live streaming
became much more connected to its
class to over 25,000 people worldwide.
community than ever before. “I’m very
Just a few short years ago, this would
proud of the Les Mills team because we
have been unprecedented even for Les
really focused on what was important.
Mills and yet here Glen was, leading
The focus was really on responding to the
one of the largest live streaming fitness
customer needs,” beams Fournier.
classes in the world and exceeding all
“People wanted more connection, so we generated some live streaming
expectations. Elsewhere, in the absence of live
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classes, Les Mills needed to think about
evolution prior to 2020, this evolution
how it could support its 140,000+
and convergence of fitness and technol-
fitness instructors around the world
ogy will continue at an incredible pace.
and enable them to connect with the
As we talk of new norms, what does that
people. “These people aren’t just the
actually mean for Les Mills? Can it ever
faces you see on our apps and work-
go back to what it was before? “Some
outs, they are the community who run
people enjoy exercising from home.
the classes in centres and in gyms,”
Some people are enjoying working out
says Fournier. “They understand fitness,
more outdoors and hiking or going to the
they understand health and wellness
park and doing their exercise routines
and they are a part of the whole commu-
there. And you will always have people
nity, so we started to connect and to
missing their fitness club,” says Fournier.
create a networking effect, connecting
“Human nature will always go back to
the expert to the community that has a
convenience and people will want to go
need. It has been quite amazing to see
back to the convenience of a fitness club
this level of engagement and communi-
or a class.”
cation with instructors and seeing how they can adapt.”
“I firmly believe that club operators need to evolve and continue to focus on their members. There are an increasing
The future of fitness
amount of members who enjoy exercis-
Right now, the future and what it will
ing outside the club as well. You see the
look like for many remains uncertain.
evolution right now, more and more are
The last year has taught us to rethink
embracing digital, creating some chal-
our perceptions of how industries can
lenges and motivating people to exercise
and should operate and has forced a
outside of the club as well as in it. It’s a
lot of businesses to rethink their oper-
pretty big shift and one that’s going to
ations. In some cases, this has created
continue, so we have to continue to look
great opportunities and change for good.
at our offering and how we can continue
For fitness and exercise, which as we
to serve our clubs, instructors and
know was already going through its own
community in the best way possible.”
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Interface magazine interviews Alistair Fraser the CEO of UK Corporate at Marsh and Rachel Hoyle, its COO, regarding the massive transformational change at the insurance brokerage, that seeks to help enterprises survive and thrive during a global pandemic‌
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Alistair Fraser, CEO of UK Corporate at Marsh
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OVID-19 has turned the world on its axis. The health and wealth of nations have been hit on a global scale not seen for a lifetime.
Governments, enterprises and the public at large have had to reconfigure their operations and behaviour amid
an ongoing crisis with no clear exit strategy in sight. Marsh is an insurance broker that excels in the expertise it provides to its clients: risk. When a client turns to Marsh to assess and manage associated risks with its operations, it trusts Marsh to provide the best fit, in terms of insurance and insurer. Marsh – with over 35,000 colleagues operating in more than 130 countries – is the world’s leading insurance broker and risk adviser and helps clients quantify and manage risk whilst also unlocking new opportunities for growth. The notion of ‘risk’ associated with any human or business function gathers a sharp clarity when the world is gripped by an invisible killer. It is down to enterprises such as Marsh to provide some element of comfort and assurance to its clients amid a rapidly changing environment. To this end, Marsh published the Political Risk Map 2020: Mid-Year Update, providing risk ratings for 197 countries across nine perils covering the security, trading, and investment environment from January to July 2020. One key finding from the map found that all 197 www.theinterface.net
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Building digital solutions that add value The digital revolution shows no signs of slowing down and traditional markets, such as insurance, are embracing digital solutions now more than ever before. Liberty Specialty Markets (LSM) specialises in underwriting and claims handling, providing brokers and clients with a wide range of product capability and capacity for specialty insurance and reinsurance markets worldwide. The company is committed to advancing and enhancing its digital offering to brokers and clients, having developed a number of key digital platforms and initiatives to maintain its service levels in all situations. “We have three pillars; commercial insurance, specialty insurance, and re-insurance,” explains Carol Baker, Head of Customer Proposition. “Through our commercial insurance pillar we typically have more interaction with our insured clients in a retail environment. That’s where we started to really look at developing digital solutions for our customers that could also add value across our specialty products.” LSM has recently launched their new global website in multiple languages. This website acts as the start point of a broker’s or client’s journey, providing them with relevant, dynamic information in the country where they operate. Another example where LSM enables brokers and clients to access dynamic information is through its Risk Reduce and Risk Appetite portals. Clients are given a 360-degree view of all risk activity from the moment LSM binds a policy. “It has a data-driven dashboard for the customer, which connect to their Liberty contacts, as well as their broker contacts, and allows them to interact through the site,” says Baker. “The broker has a view of this as well. It’s the same risk data, but it presents it differently for the audience. All of our risk engineering
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and claims activities, every kind of service point we have with that customer in terms of working with them on improving their risk, all of that interactivity is accessed centrally through the portal. It’s important for us to have really compelling value around our digital offerings. The broker articulates that to the customer as part of the Liberty proposition. When you are a customer of Liberty, you don’t just get the policy. You don’t just get standard services. You get this added value throughout the customer lifecycle.” In 2019, LSM was recognised by Placing Platform Limited (PPL) as the top syndicate for placing risks electronically. LSM works closely with a number of key strategic partners, one of which is Marsh; the global leader in insurance broking and risk management. Through a shared partner insights programme, which sees both Marsh and LSM gather information from across both organisations, the two can continuously identify opportunities to improve service and communication. In light of the COVID-19 pandemic, this saw the two collaboratively develop a Virtual Rooms service. “Our relationship teams would have weekly meetings and provide feedback on performance, how we were communicating with them, and what issues they were finding both in the market and with customers - around support required because of the restrictions enforced by COVID,” explains Baker. “Through this we were able to discuss the concept of Virtual Rooms and work closely with them to identify further opportunities, ensuring that what we develop remains relevant, is fit for purpose and will allow us to continue to grow, not just from a competitive standpoint, but from a relationship standpoint as well.”
rated countries experienced an increase
Alistair Fraser, the CEO of UK Corporate
in their risk scores between January and
at Marsh, from Marsh’s Bristol office. “Our
July 2020, compared to 30% in the same
role is to advise our clients on their insur-
period in 2019. Of those that increased
ance and risk requirements so that they
in score, the magnitude of the changes
can manage risk in a more controlled
was also much greater in 2020. In 2019,
way, helping them to protect their busi-
97% of increases were small (0.1-0.4), com-
ness, roll out new products and services,
pared to 7% in 2020. Further, 40% of
and continue to thrive.”
score increases have risen between 1.0 and 1.4 so far this year. The COVID-19 pandemic’s economic
Marsh’s Corporate business provides risk management advice, insurance brokerage and claims advocacy services to
and social impacts are driving significant
mid-size and large organisations through
shifts in global political risk — introducing
its extensive network of 20 UK offices.
new dynamics and accelerating existing
Unsurprisingly, for a prominent figure
geopolitical megatrends, such as trade
at a company intrinsically linked to risk,
protectionism and the transition to a multi-
Fraser wants to discuss the COVID-19
polar world order.
pandemic. “As a business, there are lots
“We segment our service delivery to
of dynamics to a pandemic, not least to
clients based on their size and needs
a changing world,” he says. “Risk in itself
around risk and insurance,” explains
is changing for companies. If you look
“ I f you look at some of our clients who perhaps historically did a lot of sales and revenue through physical assets, they’ve had to pivot and do it through digital platforms now, which brings with it, different types of risk” — A L I S TA I R F R A S E R , C E O O F U K C O R P O R AT E MARSH
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at some of our clients who perhaps
across the UK got involved, took a posi-
historically did a lot of sales and revenue
tive attitude, and actually, I don’t think
through physical assets, they’ve had to
our service to our clients dipped at all. If
pivot and do it through digital platforms
anything, I think we’re probably closer
now, which brings with it, different types
to our clients now than we were previ-
of risk. You’re not just insuring the build-
ously because we are all engaged in
ing; you’ve got cyber risk, you’ve got
the video conferencing type technology.”
reputational risk, you’ve got client data risk plus many others. “The pandemic has resulted in some very
Like many business leaders there have been some COVID-related shifts in operations and process that could
interesting conversations with clients
still be here long after the pandemic has
as they’ve adapted to rapidly evolving events.
been successfully managed. “I’ve said to
As their insurance broker and risk adviser, our role is to help clients to navigate what are unprecedented, and at times quite frightening, times.” So, how did COVID-19 affect Marsh and its operations, while it was looking out for its clients? After all, Coronavirus sees no barriers to its spread. Fraser explains how Marsh mobilised when the impact of COVID-19 first hit: “Firstly, we mobilised through remote working extremely quickly and extremely efficiently. We’re very fortunate in that we’re an organisation that can transact its business remotely and already had a great deal of the infrastructure required already in place. On reflection, I think if we had tried to do something like that without the threat of a pandemic over us, it would have been a more challenging task. All of our colleagues Ma rsh UK
my executive team that if we go back to
meeting with clients for certain aspects
working the way we always worked, then
of our work, but for getting our experts in
we’ve failed. I think we’ve learned some
front of clients, the new world is provid-
brilliant new skills in terms of using video
ing us with a huge opportunity. I also think
conferencing to get access to each other
the pandemic has brought us closer as
across the country, and also getting acc-
a company.”
ess to our clients in a more efficient way.
The ability to shift operations in the way
I think our clients are more receptive to
Marsh has requires an agile and robust
having ad hoc meetings by video confer-
digital architecture, the result of an ongo-
encing rather than waiting for the formal,
ing transformative programme of digital
in-person meeting. I don’t think we can
change at the company. “Look, our focus
ever fully replace the formal, in-person
(the UK business) always has to be:
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“ T he pandemic has resulted in some very interesting conversations with clients as they’ve adapted to rapidly evolving events” — A L I S TA I R F R A S E R , C E O O F U K C O R P O R AT E MARSH
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where can we be better? Where can we make the colleague experience better? How do we make the client experience better? How can we be operationally better? How can we reduce inefficiency so that we can reinvest in talent and grow our existing talent? We’ve started to look at this in conjunction with our Executive Committee and with Rachel Hoyle, my COO, who’s been instrumental in driving this. A key focus is, where have we got inefficiencies in our process? And how can we use digital and technology to remove those inefficiencies?” “It’s much more than a digital transformation,” says Hoyle from her Manchester office as she outlines the transformational programme at Marsh. Hoyle details two global initiatives currently running at Marsh: Operational Excellence (OpEx) and Digital. “You cannot realise one without the other,” she explains. “Within OpEx are operational reviews, whether it be reskill alignment, BPI (Business Process Improvement) and enhancing offshore capabilities to digital technologies and solutions. These will create new business processes and customer experiences, fundamentally changing how we operate, which in turn enhances the colleague experience and provides value to our customers.” www.theinterface.net
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A question often raised at the start of
these wants and needs, we are embrac-
such a process, is ‘Why are we doing
ing change and encouraging growth.
a digital transformation?’ “Regardless
A well-executed digital transformation
of the current climate, our clients and
will ease the burden on many fronts. It
colleagues are ever evolving and chan-
can streamline operations without com-
ging, and so should we,” Hoyle explains.
promising client service, and increase
“As an organisation, by responding to
employee efficiency while reducing
Ma rsh UK
overhead costs.” Fraser echoes this: “It’s
do that? Our trading system, end -to-end;
about how do we make ourselves as effi-
are all the stages necessary, and if they
cient as possible, remove duplication of
are necessary, do we have the right infor-
effort, improve the client experience, and
mation in it? So, it’s that constant review
improve the colleague experience. So
of that, and then down to what client facing
that’s right down to how we do our invoic-
technology we want to deliver for clients
ing. How can we use robotic software to
that isn’t just a fascia for the business,
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but actually has real value to the client. Quite often companies rush to put out client facing technology because they feel they should have to, but does it really add value to the client experience? If it doesn’t, then there’s no point in doing it from my perspective.” Marsh’s digital strategy focuses on emerging ideas and technologies, innovation, data labs, new digital products and insurtech collaboration, strengthened data, the client digital experience and analytics tools. The key focus, according to Hoyle however, is ensuring, at the heart of it all, that there is an “excellent experience for both colleagues and clients”. End to end trading platform benefits for colleagues include: automated workflow, single data entry and manual rekey -ing reduction, the pooling of client records in one single place and accurate market intelligence. Clients benefit from improved client service, quicker binds, standardised documentation and swift invoice production, Hoyle enthuses: “Digital solutions free up colleague time to focus on client services and the higher-level tasks, giving them increased job satisfaction and career development.” Marsh’s transformation programme is fuelled by a collaborative spirit both internally and externally. “We have global relationships that extend to a local presence,” Hoyle explains. “Internally we have the Digital & Data Community, which allows us to build connectivity among colleagues sharing good practices, updates on local and global tools and initiatives, and enlists us as advocates for deployment of new digital applications into our business areas. What’s key throughout all of this is that we learn and grow together along the journey.” Ma rsh UK
“ Regardless of the current climate, our clients and colleagues are ever evolving and changing, and so should we” — R AC H E L H OY L E , C O O O F U K C O R P O R AT E MARSH
Of course, digital transformation is a journey and not a destination. “It’s made huge improvements and we continue to prod and press and get feedback on what does, and doesn’t, work,” Fraser explains. “It all comes back to how, ultimately, we improve the colleague and client experience. And actually, if we improve the colleague experience, the client experience will improve anyway. There’s no replacement for the human connection in an advisory business like ours; we will always have that. It’s how we use digital technology to make the advisory piece as beneficial to the colleague and the client.” For a business like Marsh, data is everything and a datadriven strategy runs through every aspect of its organisation to make informed decisions for clients. “I think the opportunity now is how do we digitise that data so we can use it both locally and internationally to help www.theinterface.net
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clients across the world,” Fraser. “Quite often we’ve had pockets of data in different parts of the world and people haven’t seen it or had access to it. Digitising it makes it far more accessible and beneficial for everybody.” “We are a business that bases itself on doing things the right way,with integrity,” says Fraser. “And for me, that’s absolutely sacrosanct for any business that I want to operate with. I joined Marsh 13 years ago not only because of Marsh’s size and its expertise, but the human factor. The business has a great soul, which is down to having fantastic experts all over the world who can support clients, colleagues, and communities alike.”
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Five
Financial Sector Security Challenges of 2020 Written by
Dale Benton
The ‘Financial Sector, Threat Landscape 2020’ report revealed five top security challenges that the financial sector are currently facing, the risks of future threats, and how to spot these risks before it is too late. Here, Interface magazine takes a closer look…
Fi ve Fi n ancial Sector S ecur it y Ch a l l en ges of 2020
D O W N LO A D The ‘Financial S e c t o r, T h r e a t Landscape 2020’ report
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We are no stranger to the notion of cyber security, but one industry that suffers the most from cyber security threats is the financial secretary. Key security measures within the sector have evolved dramatically with the likes of key codes, two factor authentication, voice ID, behavioural analysis, one-time passcodes, protective messaging and digital fingerprinting.
One Ransomware
Amazingly, the term “ransomware” was
will be given back or decrypted even if
only added to the dictionary three years
you pay up. Worse still what's stopping
ago. In that time however, ransomware
them coming back to attack you again?
has increased dramatically in terms
The report found that once an attack is
of the frequency of incidents and the
made, the bad actor will sell the details on
range of methods used to conduct them.
to their associates to go after the victim
Let it be known that the attackers are
again after deployment, because the
extremely sophisticated. Once they have
payload can still be there, activated and
your data, who’s to say that your data
deactivated.
Fi ve Fi n ancial Sector S ecur it y Ch a l l en ges of 2020
Two Internal Threats
The report takes a look at the Verizon,
most common issues when it comes to
2020 Data Breach Investigations Report
the notion of insider threats. Next time
(DBIR) where it shows that ‘employees’
you forward an email or send one to the
mistakes account for roughly the same
wrong person/recipient, click on the
number of breaches as external parties
wrong mailing list, that’s a misdelivery. In
who are actively attacking’ the organisa-
the interests of fairness, misdelivery is
tion. Now isn't that terrifying? Misdelivery
almost always accidental and non-mali-
within the company, by which informa-
cious, but the effects can be devastating.
tion has inadvertently been sent to the
Especially if sensitive data is inadvert-
wrong person, stands tall as one of the
ently shared to the wrong recipient.
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Three App Developments
There’s an app for that. There really is.
and do not have contingency plans in
Apps in the investment and finance space
place to mitigate the effects of a cyber-at-
have grown substantially in 2020 which
tack. What that means then is personal
is of course a good thing, as the ability
information of app users is relatively
to invest online is quick and easy, and
easy to steal and sell. This can be done
accessible to all. But, with demand comes
by creating duplicate fraudulent apps to
rushed development. Many of these apps
trick the user. On these duplicate apps,
were developed quickly and quite frankly
the imagery and language of the genuine
are not ready for cyber-attacks. So that
app is mirrored. Once the personal infor-
means no two-factor authentication, no
mation is supplied, all the money involved
protection from appropriate regulations,
(real and virtual) is up for grabs. And so
are not patched or maintained properly,
begins the circle of ransomware life.
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Four Third-Party Risks
Few organisations work on their own.
essential to business operations and a
Quite rightly too. Think about third
lot of these third parties share IT systems
parties that they use. Vendors, part-
and even sensitive information through
ners, email providers, service provid-
legal teams so it goes without saying that
ers, web hosting companies, law firms,
third parties may very well be an open
data management companies, subcon-
backdoor into your financial systems for
tractors. The list goes on. They are all
attackers to infiltrate.
Fi ve Fi n ancial Sector S ecur it y Ch a l l en ges of 2020
Five COVID-19
Yep, even cyber crime has been
attacker wanted to sabotage a company
affected by COVID. It is that unavoida-
or steal data, they would target the busi-
ble. Cyber criminals are continuing to
ness itself. They’d aim their sights at the
target the financial sector even during
website, the social accounts, the logins
the pandemic. There has been quite
and all their vulnerabilities. In response,
the spike in cyber attacks on banks,
organisations had counter measures in
financial organisations and the third
place. But now, you just need to target a
parties connected to them. Going back
single remote worker and the house of
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HPE GREENLAKE:
DIVING DEEP INTO THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE We speak to Erik Vogel, Global Vice President, Customer Experience at HPE to see how the global, edge-to-cloud Platform-as-a-Service company is transforming the customer journey with GreenLake to provide an ‘everything-asa-service’ offering…
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Andr ew Woo d s Cr ai g D ani els
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or many sectors and enterprises,
the experience we are creating for our
the notion of a customer jour-
partners aligns to their expectations,”
ney, has been virtually non-ex-
explains Erik Vogel, Global Vice Pres-
istent until fairly recently. The digital landscape turned all of that on its head however,
ident, Customer Experience at HPE. Vogel leads the Customer Experience
and now the delivery of a seamless and
Area at HPE with regards to its Green-
painless customer journey can be make-
Lake solutions. “About a year-and-a-half
or-break for every business right now,
ago, I became part of the HPE GreenLake
regardless of sector. No more so, than in
team,” he tells us. “We’re really focused on
the sales of the very hardware, software
customer experience and I think of my-
and services that facilitate the digital realm.
self as something of a customer expe-
Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) is in the midst of a multi-year transformation to offering their entire portfolio as
rience zealot. I'm customer obsessed, which I have to be, in the markets we’re in.” HPE has been offering a GreenLake-
a service by 2022. This is no small feat,
type model for the past ten years and it
as HPE is a large company offering serv-
was last summer during HPE’s Discover
ers, storage, networking, consulting and
event that Antonio Neri, the HPE CEO,
support as well as financial services. To
made the announcement that the comp-
successfully navigate this pivot, HPE has
any was pivoting to an everything-as-
embraced the importance of a customer’s
a-s ervice company. HPE GreenLake
journey through its many offerings and
brings the cloud experience to apps
services.
and data everywhere, enabling speedy
And HPE is focused on delivering a better
adoption of transformative technol-
customer experience by gaining insights
ogy to simplify operations. GreenLake
from both direct sellers and partners. The
delivers public cloud services and infra-
customer experience needs to extend to
structure-as-a-service on premise, fully
anyone who interacts with the customer,
managed in a pay-per-use model at the
regardless of the logo on their badge. “We
edge, in colocations, and in the client’s
spent time with our key partners like CBTS
data center. “We’re offering everything
that really informed us about the expe-
we have as a service underneath the HPE
rience they need to be successful. We
GreenLake brand,” Vogel explains. “We
lear-ned a lot from these discussions, and
are moving beyond just selling hardware
HPE
in a consumption model, to providing it as
loying any of the hardware or software
a true end-to-end service.”
required for the service.”
“As part of the end-to-end service, we
According to Vogel, when we think about
can extend the service to include soft-
as-a-service and how customers want
ware from leading providers. For example,
to consume and use as-a-service solutions,
we can add leading back-up and recov-
it's no longer about speeds and feeds;
ery software from Commvault or Veeam,
a faster processor or a faster server. “Now
on top of our GreenLake infrastructure
it's all about the experience and the out-
to provide a SaaS like experience for our
come,” he claims. “So, we've recognized
customers. In this model, we can give
we need to think differently about how
them a true as-a-service experience, for
we talk and interact with customers, to
backup and recovery, without the cust-
really get that customer obsessed view,
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CBTS Client Benefits with HPE GreenLake Solution CBTS is an HPE Platinum and Inner Circle Partner with a strategic relationship in place for 30+ years. CBTS generates over $1 billion in revenue annually by supporting over 3,000 clients in the United States, Canada and the United Kingdom. CBTS employs 2,000 highly skilled associates holding 260 HPE technical and sales certifications across the entire HPE and Aruba portfolios
THE GREENLAKE PARTNERSHIP: CBTS, HPE
over-provisioning, enabling the client to
AND A GLOBAL ASSET MANAGEMENT FIRM
have instant access to capacity for business
A global asset management firm turned
growth, and most importantly align the
to CBTS for assistance when refreshing
cost of IT infrastructure to the client’s busi-
their data center infrastructure for mul-
ness usage and technology requirements.
tiple locations in the United Kingdom THE IMPACT: A 5 year partnership between THE STORY: A US-based, global integrated
the client, HPE, and CBTS represented by an
asset management company focused on real
HPE GreenLake service agreement executed
estate, credit, equity, and other financial as-
via the HPE GreenLake for Partners program.
sets that serves clients across North America,
The resulting solution for this client is a mod-
Europe, Asia, and Latin America approached
ern, optimized, and agile data center based on
their CBTS support team to assist in address-
an innovative pay-for-use service platform with
ing a challenge for their business. The client
immediate access to on-premises variable ca-
had a need to refresh their data center infra-
pacity ensuring a sustained business outcome.
structure for multiple locations in the United Kingdom. With past refresh projects requiring
WHY CBTS
a significant amount of capital, the client was
The extensive HPE portfolio of products and
seeking an innovative and collaborative solu-
services is critical to our ability to assemble
tion through CBTS. A partnership with CBTS
comprehensive, valuable, and innovative IT
and HPE was required to deliver a solution with
solutions for our clients. By taking advantage
the latest technology, sized effectively to sup-
of HPE certifications, local training events, HPE
port the client needs, and structured to align the
Discover, and webinars our CBTS team is
costs of the refresh and new IT infrastructure
always at the forefront in understanding the
to the business usage. The partnership journey
latest products and innovations available
began with a discovery discussion, assess-
from HPE. Our clients benefit from the CBTS
ment, multiple technology review sessions,
HPE subject matter expertise and our exten-
sizing discussions, platform reviews, a trip to
sive experience in delivering HPE solutions
HPE Discover, and a comprehensive review of
across multiple industries in the global market-
the HPE GreenLake solution.
place. CBTS greatly values our relationships and access to HPE executives, our executive
THE SOLUTION: A thorough review of the
sponsor, partner business managers, and other
client’s IT requirements and technology needs
strategic resources. Our relationship with
determined that the new infrastructure would
HPE enables CBTS to support our valued clients
be optimized by a combination of HPE Synergy,
and earn their business in the most complex
HPE 3PAR, and HPE StoreOnce. The solution
situations while maintaining a trusted advisory
was delivered via an HPE GreenLake service
relationship over the long term.
agreement to eliminate the extensive cost of
“It's very difficult to lay out a CX transformation or a CX journey without understanding where you are today? What does it look like today? Where do you want to get to? What are the customers saying? What are they looking for from you? What do they need from you?” — ERIK VOGEL G L O B A L V I C E P R E S I D E N T, CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE, HPE
that our customers are demanding. My
some hardware in and let them try it. But in
role is to really focus on the experience.
the services world, it becomes a do-it-them-
Are we providing the right experience?
selves model. They want to kick the tires;
Are we delivering the outcome that our
they want to try and test things. They want
customers are looking for?”
to talk to other developers, or they want
One of the first things HPE tried to under-
to talk to other data scientists about what
stand in terms of the customer journey
they're doing in a community forum. They
was how a customer navigates through
want to pose questions.”
“the awareness phase”; how they learn about the HPE GreenLake service, whether that's through marketing or social media channels or communities or forums. Once through the awareness phase, customer move into a conversion phase, where “Now they've heard about it and they're going through, ‘Is it going to work for me, and do I want to buy it?’ And ultimately making a buying decision and thinking differently about what types of content, collateral and information clients need in the as-a-service world. In our traditional transaction world, we'd send a seller out with a PowerPoint deck or we'd drop HPE
The next stage of HPE’s investigations into
when I order a pizza, why can't I see my
its customer journey centred around the
order status real time when I've ordered
purchase process. How do they want to
a HPE GreenLake solution?’”
buy? “You think about services, now you
As HPE reconsidered both the conver-
buy with a credit card swipe or an app on
sion and the purchase processes, it organ-
your phone. Even though maybe it's not a
ically led to the building of an experience
direct competitor of ours, one of the things
that its customers were expecting once
we've learned about experience is we're
they’d bought it. How could they stand
now being judged across the broad set of
that up and think differently about getting
experiences our customers interact with.
the infrastructure right? “Customers want
It's no longer just competing against Dell
things fast,” says Vogel. “One of the key
and Lenovo and saying we have a better
pillars of our experience is speed, and
experience than Dell. We have to have an
we don't have time to take 90, 120 days
experience that's on a par with Uber, Apple
to go build hardware and put it through
and Disney, and some of the big banks.
our supply chain and get it to a customer.
Our customers are saying, ‘Hey, if I can
Because they want this as-a-service, the
see my delivery status real time on Domino’s
expectation is ‘we want it right away’. So,
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we had to start rethinking that operating
expecting? And bringing in that voice of
process; that end-service that's delivering
the customer to start rethinking what this
an outcome.”
experience needs to look like. We started
The final phase of research and devel-
with understanding the journey map, and
opment involved a focus on ‘renewal and
really defining the journey a customer is on
a growth’. HPE is determined that the cust-
with these six stages we're using: aware-
omer should be “so happy and so delighted
ness, conversion, purchase, initiate, oper-
that they continue to buy it over and over
ate, grow/renew. And that was the first
and add to it because it's been such a
step in really understanding that this is diff-
good experience. “My job has been to
erent to the journeys our customers typi-
understand that end-to-end process and
cally go on if they're buying a transactional
start to rethink how we approach these
product. So, the first step was to lay that out.
six different journey stages our custom-
“The second step was to get the data
ers are going through, relative to what the
and the analytics behind it. It's very difficult
industry’s doing? What are our customers
to lay out a CX transformation or a CX
HPE
journey without understanding where you
fast, and whether this is from what they're
are today? What does it look like today?
used to in cloud or SaaS providers that
Where do you want to get to? What are the
they've gotten accustomed to where they
customers saying? What are they look-
can go and sign up and, in a day, or two,
ing for from you? What do they need from
it's up and running. They don't have to buy
you? So, we started with some customer studies commissioned by analysts. We did some of our own customer feedback where we went out and talked to customers and started to bring that together to get a good handle on what customers are looking for from an experience. What would be a great experience in our customers’ minds?”
“ B eing customer-centric, means we’ve got to be listening, watching and understanding what our customers are doing” —
ERIK VOGEL G L O B A L V I C E P R E S I D E N T, CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE, HPE
Customer experience is perceived, and only the customer can decide if it was a good
hardware and deploy things; they get it
experience or not.”
right away. Or cloud, where they really
As a product company, one of the funda-
could swipe a credit card if they wanted
mental shifts or insights HPE gleaned was
to and have an environment in 10 minutes.
to look beyond speed-to-market by flipping
But speed was paramount because their
the telescope to focus on the customer’s
businesses are accelerating and getting
end view. “When we move to this as-a-ser-
more competitive. The business cycles
vice or the CX model, it's really about
are shortening. What used to be a slow
starting with the customer in view,” Vogel
cycle business is now standard cycle, and
explains. “What's the value we can add to
what's standard cycle is now fast cycle,
the customer? Where do they want to get
and what is fast cycle is hyper fast cycle.
value, because it's not about that faster
Or business cycles are compressing from
server, it's about value to the customer.”
18 months to 12 months to six months, so
A result of commissioning these cust-
they have to work much faster. So, as a
omer viewpoint studies, Vogel and his team
result, speed was critical. We recognize
established what they refer to as their
that a key component of the experience
three North Star principles; the first one
we had to provide was speed and think-
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and equipment is fast, but the end-to-end
for example?’ What kept coming up was,
journey from ‘OK, I've heard about it. Now
‘It's easy. It's simple. It's standardized. It's
I want to test it, I want to demo it, I want
intuitive.’ Whether it's learning about the
to try it. I want to make sure it's going to
service, getting a price for the service,
meet my needs. I want to buy it, I want it
operating the service, provisioning some-
deployed, I want to be operating it and
thing from an operations perspective,
generating value.’ Because every day we
we had to think about each stage of that
delay in getting them that solution, we are
journey and say, ‘How do we make that
delaying the value they're going to cre-
easier and lower effort for our customer?’
ate from that solution. So, speed is critical.”
And understanding that the task of our
The second principle is what Vogel calls
customer is not just operating the envi-
‘low effort’. “So, in the CX world, we talk
ronment, but a customer may come in and
about effort or ease. We have to make
say, ‘Hey, will this interact with my other
things simpler and easier, and when we
environments? And I want to learn about
talk to customers about, ‘Hey, what do
that.’ Or ‘I want to get a price for this solu-
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conversion and purchase, traditionally
another Amazon Web Services, Microsoft
we've done that in an analogue motion.
Azure or Google Cloud. “We have to really
By that I mean we send a seller out with
focus on what we do well. What is our busi-
a PowerPoint deck or we do a traditional
ness, and how can we differentiate and
sales call. In the as-a-service world, cust-
provide value in ways that those other
omers want to do a lot of it themselves.
cloud providers cannot do or SaaS provid-
So, we had to create a whole digital front
ers cannot do; including our traditional
door where customers can come in and
competitors, the Dells or Lenovos of the
learn about HPE GreenLake. They could
world. How do we continuously provide
read testimonials, join communities and
that differentiated value? Those quickly
get a price for the purchase process. They
became our North Star principles. So,
can estimate their own price by filling in
we have this journey we built. We talked
a few details about the size of their envi-
to customers, we established those North
ronment and what they're looking for. We
Star principles that it has to be fast, it has
started to simplify and digitize that aware-
to be easy, and has to provide differen-
ness conversation and purchase process.”
tiated value, and those were absolutely critical.” “When we think about awareness and
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“I think my favorite quote on this whole CX thing is what Walt Disney said. He said, “Do what you do so well that your customers will come back and they’ll bring a friend.’” — ERIK VOGEL G L O B A L V I C E P R E S I D E N T, CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE, HPE
GreenLake experience. Vogel and his
platform. And that will be a key component
team deployed Qualtrics as a CX plat-
as we're continuing to grab and gather that
form and data aggregation platform. “We
customer data.”
were already good at what I would call
Integral to the development of any
the operational data. So, we would see
successful customer journey is feedback.
how many people would click and how
What do the customers think? What do
much time they would spend on the site.
the customers want? HPE is continu-
We had good visibility into what was
ing its interaction with clients to finesse
happening. What we didn't have visi-
its offerings. “Being customer-centric,
bility into was why it was happening. So,
means we've got to be listening, watch-
we started to deploy Qualtrics, and we're
ing and understanding what our custom-
in the process now of deploying that site-
ers are doing.” Vogel and his team then
wide across the entire HPE GreenLake
provide this knowledge to their frontline
HPE
employees; the sales teams and account
there might be something here.’ It gives us
teams. “Because we recognize that when
a much better view of what's happening
we think about product decisions and
in the world of the customer, and again,
where we want to go with a portfolio, we
being customer obsessed means we have
expect to get a lot of detail and data from
to be constantly listening to the customer.
our customers telling us what they want.
We have to think about our sellers, our
But we also expect to get good informa-
account teams and even our partners as
tion internally. We're now allowing our
well as our customers.”
sellers to provide that type of feedback
Digital is key for HPE with everything
at scale where we can now do analytics
available on demand, whether thar’s infor-
on it. We can triangulate, ‘Hey, we heard
mation, quotes or confirmation. HPE is
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regarding its customers. The final piece of the jigsaw is the move to making everything omnichannel. “What I call seamlessly omnichannel,” Vogel explains. “Again, it used to be they would come to our website to look at speeds and feeds. We'd send out our seller with a PowerPoint deck, very single channel, very easy. But now these services are being bought by different personas, the channels where they consume and receive the information is different. I think my favorite quote on this whole CX thing is what Walt Disney said. He said, "Do what you do so well that your customers will come back and they'll bring a friend.’ So, we're doing what we do well with the on-prem in the data center and we're doing it so well by doing it fast, doing it easy and offering this differentiated value so that our customers are coming back. In fact, we have a 90+% renewal rate, and a very high NPS (net promoter score), so, they're maybe not bringing a friend, but they're telling a friend. They're promoting our service to their friend. And that’s a great feeling.”
HPE
Erik Vogel Global Vice President, Customer Experience HPE
Erik is customer obsessed with an innate passion for customers to not just fix their problems, but to delight them. And he is dedicated to unifying the way HPE employees view Customer Experience (CX). As the CX leader for HPE GreenLake, Erik is driving the CX focused transformation to delivering everything as-a-service by making sure HPE lives and breathes a customer-centric approach. Erik is a powerful storyteller who, instead of presenting customers as numbers can bring the customer to life in rich detail. This allows him to make complex topics easy to understand, share insights, and present data in actionable formats to make it relevant and meaningful. And Erik believes in connecting a great customer experience to a clear and concise measurement framework and treating metrics as an asset because they offer key insights into what customers want and how to make them happy.
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