The Eternal Element That Supports...

There Is Freedom in Knowing Superficially

Questioner: Are gatisahayak and sthitisahayak energies or do they also have atoms?

Dadashri: No, no, they are in the form of pradesh (large regions; large spatial units). They are so large that whatever desire arises in whomever, they help them with that. They do not have atoms; they have pradesh. They are called pradesh, but that cannot be understood through the intellect.

Questioner: What did You say, ‘gatisahayak is in the form of pradesh’?

Dadashri: Even the Self has infinite pradesh (smallest amount of space that a single parmanu occupies on the Self).

Questioner: Dada, please tell us about pradesh. What is a pradesh?

Dadashri: Do not speak [interpret it] according to your language; moreover, these are simply words that have been given, that is all. It is only when One reaches that [spiritual] state that they can be understood in all their subtlety. It is of no use for you; do not delve too deeply into that. Where did this water come from? One would say that it came from a tank. Through what will it flow? Through the pipe. Then once we wash our hands and feet, once we wash our face and take a bath, where does the water go? It goes down the gutter. That is all, this is all that needs to be known. What does the gutter flow into? Into the river. There is freedom in knowing superficially, whereas if one delves further to seek out the deeper meaning, then he would have to stick around in the very same place. All you need to know is what is helpful, isn’t it? Say you sit in a car and start asking, “What’s its model? What materials is it made from?” Is there a need to know all of that? You sit in the car and go to the station, then the car goes back to its place and you go to your home.

The Eternal Element That Supports Inertia Makes It Still

Questioner: Dada, what is the function of the eternal element that supports inertia (adharmastikaya)?

Dadashri: That which makes things still is the eternal element that supports inertia. After putting something into motion, what can be done if it does not stop? The eternal element that supports inertia makes it still. Otherwise, the motion alone would continue on. That’s all; none of these people would sit down. They would keep moving about hither and thither, day and night. However, there is this entire eternal element that supports inertia, that is why everyone goes off to sleep peacefully. This car moves because of the eternal element that supports motion. Otherwise, it would not move, and it comes to a stop because of the eternal element that supports inertia. When the time unfolds for the eternal element that supports inertia to function, it [the object] comes to a stop [becomes still]. When the influence of the eternal element that supports motion is over, when it gets used up, then the eternal element that supports inertia starts functioning.

Do people not say, “I have lost the courage to walk. I can no longer get up and walk.” So what has gone? The answer is, it is not of the pudgal, it is not of the Self; it is the eternal element that supports motion that has gone. When the courage to get up has been depleted; at the time of death, the energy to get up becomes depleted completely, at that time, the eternal element that supports motion has depleted completely [in that person].

Who Makes the Intent to Move?

Questioner: So is it this eternal element that supports motion that brings one closer like that, or is it that these circumstances tend to arise?