YOU’RE AN APPLE
MARRIED TO AN ORANGE Part Two: COPARENTING SKILLS HANDBOOK
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Divorce Doesn’t Hurt Children. Conflict hurts children.
Author: Matt Sossi Matt Sossi is a family law attorney in San Antonio, Texas. Matt Sossi is a amicus attorney, parent facilitator, parent coordinator and family law mediator. Trained as a collaborative family law attorney, Matt Sossi has been helping divorcing families in San Antonio, Texas since 1995.
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“I want you to know that eventually this will be over, and whatever we win or lose, it’ll be the two for us having to figure this out together.” Alan Alda in “Marriage Story” Like that’s ever going to happen. Did you think that during and after your divorce that you and your ex will be able to “figure this out together?” How are you supposed to co-parent? You’ve been to court, been to litigation and now you are supposed to be nice and work things out. How? Without skills your plans to co-parent will fail at some point and you will be back in court.
How are you planning to resolve not only your present conflict but
your future conflict as well?
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My job has been and will continue be to help parents reach solutions, avoid court and to co-parent. By definition it is my job to help parents define their conflict, learn basic communication skills with the goal of ensuring that the parents have the skills not only to manage present conflict but future conflict as well. Kids after all are not hurt so much by the divorce itself but by the ongoing conflict that follows.
Define Your Conflict
Most parents pick litigation believing their case will be decided by a family court. Most parents are unaware of their options to mediate or collaborate.
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The Goal of Litigation The basic model of litigation is designed to make parties whole in order that they could move forward apart and their own separate ways. Litigation is not originally designed to help divorcing spouses
co-parent.
When divorces first began to be filed in the 1950’s and 1960’s litigation was the only option available to resolve the family law conflict. Courts set out to look for options and resources to help adversary parties resolve their divorcing parties resolve their conflict. The court in the 1960’s and 1970’s began to appoint mental health professionals to provide social studies in contested custody matters. Mental health professionals were not there as a resource to help the problems resolve coparenting issues but were there as a resource to court.
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Mediation Begins As divorce dockets grew and grew the court system in the 1970s began to refer parents to mediations in an attempt reduce its oversized family law dockets. At its inception, mediators would use an evaluative approach to help parents decide on how to resolve their disputes. Mediations would be conducted in separate rooms, called caucusing where the mediator would shuttle back and forth between divorce parent’s rooms.
The court designated experts from mental health fields to best assist “the trier of fact” to make decisions as to “the best interest of the child” at time of trial.
The court referred cases to
mediation to alleviate the large number of family law cases on their dockets. Child custody evaluator reports allowed the mediator the opportunity help the parties evaluate their respective positions at trial. Cases would be settled based upon the party’s reliance on the mediator’s knowledge. Mediations would end in settlement based upon the parties negotiating and compromising through the issues presented. It was not uncommon at mediation to hear that “the best mediated agreement is one in which neither party is happy with its outcome.” In the late 1970’s and 1980’s family law courts developed options and resources to help divorcing spouse’s co-parent. Mental health professionals not only assisted the court in testifying to advance parties’ positions as litigants, they could also help the parties better relate as co-parents,
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SUGGESTED RESOURCES TO HELP THE PARTIES WHILE IN LITIGATION
Parent Facilitator
Help High Conflict Parents Resolve Co-Parenting Issues
Parent Coordinator
Help parties resolve disputes by providing
options
and
resources in a confidential setting
Amicus Attorney
Helps parties attempt to reach settlement
Child Therapist,
Helps parties define and work
Psychologist
through problems
Psychiatrist Mediation
Mediates Dispute
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SUGGESTED RESOURCES TO HELP THE COURT FOR DIVORCING PARENTS
Child Custody Evaluator
Provides
court
with
recommendation on resolving ultimate questions.
Helps parties resolve disputes Amicus Attorney
by
providing
resources
in
options a
and
confidential
setting, provides position to court
Guardian Ad Litem
Provides report to court as to best interest of child.
Mental Health
Provides
testing,
Professional
support expert’s opinion on
Psychologist - Psychiatrist ultimate issue
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used
to
Most parents feel that the last thing they want to do is to be in divorce court.
Ready Set
Go?
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How to file, where to file are questions many parents can-not answer. There are now online sites and online forms to help parents file their petitions for divorce.
There are online forms to help parents draft agreed
divorce decrees. The issue arises when the parents have a dispute. The divorce process for many seems like an insurmountable process.
WHY PARENTS CHOOSE TO LITIGATE
Many choose litigation to work through their divorce.
There are many reasons why:
Choose Litigation
Avoid Restorative Process
Parents feel that there is no
Lack of information on process.
other choice: Divorce is just
Fear that collaborative divorces are
an adversary process.
Expensive and Unproductive
Communication with your ex
Transformative Mediations are
on child related issues can be
New and Unproven
impossible. Mediation Resolves 99% of all Disputes.
This is what 10
you know.
Litigation may be frustrating. Parents who express a wish to coparent during the divorcing process may be frustrated with the roles assigned their mental health professionals by the court during the litigation process. Child Custody evaluators, for example are not going to available to provide options and resources to allow parents to work through their disputes. Litigation may be necessary. A parent’s wish to co-parent, to be flexible and to look for options may place themselves at a disadvantage when facing an ex who wants to litigate and force issues in court.
Remember,
good parents typically make horrible litigants and high conflict parents typically make great litigants.
Each step of the divorce process matters to a divorcing parent
whose wish is to co-parent.
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Why We Believe We Go to Mediation:
Why We settle at Mediation:
1. Tired of Litigation 2. Conceded to an agreement you did not want. 3. Compromised on an agreement neither party wanted
We go to Mediation to finish our divorce. We mediate rather than litigate to transition between our role as divorcing spouses to that of co-parents. Mediation:
VS.
1. End Conflict 2. Begin to Co-Parent
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How conflict is managed at mediation matters to co-parents.
The
American Bar Association began to review the benefits in different mediation techniques, from evaluative to facilitative to transformative. The American Bar association found that mediation styles at allowed parties the ability to listen, understand and respond to one another had the best chances to help parties work through not just their present conflict but their future conflict as well. .
Mediator Controlled High Risk of Future Court
Parents in Charge
Conflict
Less Risk of Future Court
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The studies showed that mediation styles that placed the parties more in control of how to solve their conflict were much more effective than ones in which the professional mediator was in control.
Parties walking into
mediation should have the ability to relate to each other at some basic level.
Relational Model Empowers Parents to Solve their Own Problems
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I am convinced that conflict management training is a key ingredient in helping parents learn how to relate to one another during the divorce process. Waiting to try to relate to one another at mediation day is too late. Many Parents need to learn how to relate and interact during the divorce process. So enough with the introduction. It is my hope that this book defines how you engage in a process that is typically confusing and overwhelming.
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Chapter One
YOU’RE AN APPLE
MARRIED TO AN ORANGE
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Its Not as Easy as Saying….
I Divorce You I Divorce You I Divorce You
In some countries simply say I divorce you I divorce you I divorce you. Repeating those three words is all that it takes to be divorced. People willingly going through the divorce process here wish that the divorce process was that easy. Here are top three main misconceptions about divorce: 1. Never talk to your spouse during your divorce. 2. You have no control over the divorce process. 3. There is no need to talk to your ex after your divorce.
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Before you contact an attorney there are just so many reasons why you need to find a way to interact with your ex during the divorce process: a.
b.
c.
Tell to the Children. There should be a conversation with the children about the divorce. Rest assured they will have questions both parents will need to answer. Litigate Mediate or Collaborate? How are you going to manage your divorce conflict? What resources are you going to employ to work through your issues? Budget: How are you planning to pay for all this? Can you stay in the same house together. Is that advisable? Can one of you stay at a relative or friends house?
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Required Read: Bill Eddy’s book “BIFF Responses to High Conflict People” Reframe the way in which you communicate with your ex. Learn BIFF Keep Communications Brief, Basic, Informed and Focused.
TIME TO TELL THE KIDS A study showed that 75 percent of divorcing parents talk to their children together for less than
15
minutes about their
upcoming divorce. Fifteen minutes! Imagine how you would feel at your child’s age now knowing what was going to happen to them or why it was happening. What is next for me? Why did this happen? Why aren’t you in marriage counseling? Does Grandma and Grandpa know? Who was to blame? Where am I going to live? Where am I going to school? Am I going to still be able to see my friends? If you put yourself in the shoes of your child does know having answers to these questions sound like something that is fair to you? Is that something that sounds fair to your child? Talking to your child separately may be your only option, but can you agree with me that it is not your best option? Dad may say one thing to the kids and providing one reason for the divorce, Mom saying another is NOT
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going to provide the recipe that reduces anxiety and stress for your children. Moms and Dads should together plan how to discuss the news to their children. Thinking through HOW to talk to the children most likely will mean visiting a third-party professional, such as a child therapist, who can provide a guideline of what and what not to say Things to consider
Call a Child Therapist Where Should You have the talk? What Should You Say? What Questions Wil the Children Ask? How will the Children Most Likely Benefits of React? Talking To the Kids
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Most parents will hire a litigation attorney when they file for divorce. While you may need a litigation attorney to resolve your divorce you need to explore your options. Simply put do you litigate, mediate or choose a collaborative divorce? Litigation is the most expensive election you can make. There are not just the initial
Litigation
to your lawyer, be
expended,
hours
retainers
paid
retainers
will
and
Costs!
will
There are court
billable continue.
reporter
fees,
there are deposition costs, videographers etc. The more litigious you want to be the higher your costs.
As of 2020 the average price for an attorney in a contested custody divorce
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If costs are SO HIGH why are you choosing litigation? Did you pick litigation because
you
envisioned
some
long
entrenched battle with your ex? You may have
Communicate Using BIFF Communication with your ex should be pursuant to Bill Eddy’s BIFF book.
been told you need to hire an attorney and go to court but have you defined your conflict? Have you
Be:
asked?
Brief Informed Define Your
Factual
Conflict!
Forceful
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Communicate and engage a fellow coworker just like you are on the job.
lost by choosing litigation. It’s for your mutual benefit that you and your ex spouse communicate whether your should mediate, litigate or choose to collaborate your way through the divorce. Litigation is designed to resolve deep entrenched conflict. Mediation may be a better path to work through the problem. Electing a Collaborative approach may be even better.
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LITIGATE MEDIATE OR COLLABORATE
PREPARE YOUR LIST: 1. State Your Goals, Issues and Concerns for your children during and after this divorce. Ask Your Ex to Do the Same. 2. Define Differences - Listen to what your ex’s goals, issues and concerns are. Where do you disagree? If you can’t meet together, meet with a marriage therapist or your priest. 3. Actively listen: Why your ex is taking the position that he or she is? Can this conflict be resolved between the two of you? Will you need a judge to work through the issue? 4. What Options and Resources do You think you need to resolve your conflict? 25
5. Talk to a Family Law Attorney – Understand
your
choices
to
litigate,
mediate or elect to go through the collaborative process. 6. Consult
a
Family
Lawyer
practices collaborative law:
who What
additional insight do they provide 7. Consult with a Mediator – What advantages can going to mediation be this early in the process? 8. After seeking counsel are there any additional resources that you can think of that should resolve your conflict? 9. What
costs
are
associated
with
the
resources suggested? If you can, share the resources you discovered and costs with your ex. 10.
Ask: Should we litigate, mediate or
collaborate?
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Bereavement Counseling Bereavement counseling is one way in which divorcing parents can stay in communication with one another. Open and honest communication about why spouses are divorcing can lead to peaceful transitions from divorcing spouse to effective co-parents. Bereavement counseling answers questions about: • Marriage reconciliation • Life during divorce • Life after divorce
DISCUSS COSTS
Divorce costs no matter what and sometimes Divorce can cost a lot. If you are not careful you will lose control over how money is spent along the process. Just as you budget during your marriage, you need to budget for monthly expenses during your divorce. Things to do: Consolidate existing loans Pay minimum payments on credit cards Obtain forbearance on mortgage or car loans Stay with Family: While certainly not a perfect solution, staying with family for a limited period of time allows you to reduce costs of maintaining two homes.
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Reach temporary agreements to: APP CLOSE OFW
• Divide Property • Pay Bills • Define a Possession Schedule For
some
co-parents,
nesting
agreements are popular choices parents use outside of court. Nesting agreements are where the children stay at the home and the parents rotate in and out, for example on a week on, week off basis.
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App Close or OFW are apps that are designed to help co-parents communicate and reduce conflict. Many professionals believe that App Close or OFW help parents communicate better. All App Close and OFW messages are recorded and can be viewed by the trial court or other court appointed professionals.
COLLABORATE
Collaboration is defined as working with someone to produce a solution to a problem. Using the Collaborative process in a divorce is an extremely beneficial process for parents who’s wish is to co-parent. Collaboration is not about who is right and who is wrong. Collaboration is not about negotiation. Collaboration during a divorce is working to create options and resources that may help you resolve a problem. Collaboration is not about taking a position and then totally giving in to another’s suggestion. That would be conceding. Collaboration is not about walking in with a position and meeting somewhere in the middle from what you want and the other person wants. compromising.
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That would be
Resources Helping Parents to Co-Parent
COLLABORATE DURING THE COURT PROCESS COURT ORDERED RESOURCES In most cases the court will appoint different experts that they believe will help you and your ex-
Parent Facilitator Parent Coordinator
work through your conflict. The court may appoint court appointed experts to help you co-parent and
Child Therapist
work through the problem. Collaborating within the Court Process
Family Therapist
At the beginning of the divorce process you and your ex can agree on what professionals you want assigned on your case. What types of professionals do you and your ex need to help work through the problem? Its important to recognize what professionals are there to help you co-parent and which professionals
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Individual Therapist
are there to assist the court in entering rulings on your case. Differentiate between resources that are created to help parents and resources that are created to assist the court.
Coming together is a beginning; keeping together is progress; working together is success.” – Henry Ford
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Team Building (Texas)
Parent
Neutral
Coordinator
Parent
Resource:
Confidential Process
Parent
Neutral
Facilitator
Resources:
Can Provide Testimony
Parent
Can Not Provide
And
Recommendations on
Court
Issues Relating to Child Custody
Resource: Family Therapist
Neutral
Parents And Court
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Can Provide Testimony to Court
Child Therapist
Neutral
Resource: Child May be required to testify. Court
Individual
Neutral
Therapist
Resource:
Confidential
–
however
Parties
may be compelled to testify on certain issues.
Marriage
Neutral
Therapist
Amicus
Neutral
Resource:
Confidential
Parties
Can be compelled to testify
Court Resource
If parties can not settle –
Parent
Does not testify
Resource
Provides positional statement to court
Guardian
Neutral
Court Resource
Ad Litem
Testify
in
open
court,
provides court a report
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Child Custody
Neutral
Evaluator
Court
Testify
Resource
Assists court or trier of fact in resolving ultimate issue (custody)
Collaboration isn’t just a process that you use when working through the court system. Remember You can also collaborate with your ex interacting with your child’s teacher, pediatrician or school counselor. Join your ex in asking these individuals would solve a problem you see with your child. Collaboration helps you and your ex feel more in control of the situation, happier with the options and resources being laid out on the table.
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BENEFITS OF COLLABORATION
Work outside court system to Ch
resolve problem
Cost Effective Approach Direct how conflict is resolved
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Coparenting Skill Challenge
Initiate
Challenging conversations
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Things change after divorce. Kids will grow. Kids may have problems with anxiety, depression or fitting in at school. Kids may have problems with a teacher or a bully.
You may start a new relationship and get married.
Your ex may have changes in his or her life as well. Every change in your life or your child’s life brings a new change in the way you and your ex interact. Every change brings the possibility of new conflict.
Your decree will not resolve every issue or solve every problem
Conflict is not necessarily a bad thing. Conflict existed between you and your ex during your marriage. You found a way to work through your differences either by compromising conceding or collaborating. 37
Conflict after divorce can be a little trickier. You may no longer want to concede or compromise with the person your divorcing.
BEGIN BY COLLABORATING Collaboration is not about who is right and who is wrong. Collaboration is not about walking into a discussion with a solution to a problem or an opinion on how a problem should be solved. Collaboration is about people coming together solving problems by looking for available options and resources. Collaboration is not about taking a position and then totally giving in to another’s suggestion. That would be conceding. Collaboration is not about walking in with a position and meeting somewhere in the middle from what you want and the other person wants. That would be compromising. As you were in court there are professionals in your area that can help you and your ex collaborate. There are teachers, pediatricians, dentists, child therapists. For every problem there are professionals available to help you and your ex through the collaboration process.
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Professionals are persons who are: 1. Neutral, does not have a bias or agenda
Data Conflict
2. Can Offer Opinions 3. Can Provide Testing 4. Can Provide Suggestions or Referrals
Data conflicts can occur when you and your ex take opposing positions based upon the information you are each provided. Data conflicts occur in two ways: 1. Each party has limited information on the situation at hand typically because they fail to have open communication with one another.
Identify the
2. Each party has their own conclusions to how the problem they face should be solved.
Problem
Best Resolved Data conflicts are best resolved by working with a neutral professional who has access to all the information at hand and can be provide opinions to the parents to come up with the best options and resources available.
Avoid Data Conflicts. Make sure you and your ex have the same information about the problem at hand. Are you on the same page with your ex? Transparency goes along way.
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INITIATE A CHALLENGING CONVERSATION
There will be a time that you will get tired of collaborating every problem you have with your ex. When that time happens you will want to simply just talk to your co-parent. At this point, the last thing you want to do is go backwards on the progress you made and have conflict staret all over again.
DON’T STATE YOUR POSITION DEFINE THE PROBLEM Remember conflict can be a minor misunderstanding, major disagreement, or entrenched battle. Defining what your ISSUE actually is allows to understand how you will manage your conflict, how you may collaborate, mediate or litigate.
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You may have to communicate with your ex on issues that you see as problematic or that have the potential for conflict.
Before you speak to your
ex think about how he or she will react to what you have to say.
ACTIVELY LISTEN Definition: Actively listen is defined as the ability to focus completely on a speaker, understand their message, comprehend the information and respond thoughtfully. When you hear your ex speak actively listen.
Could you be seeing
things incorrectly? Do you have all the information that you need? The following story is a great reason why its important to listen and understand the other person’s position.
The following is a fictional account: American Ship: “Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision.” Canadians: “Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.” Americans: “This is the captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.” Canadians: “No, I say again, you divert YOUR course.” 41
Americans: “THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN, THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES’ ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH. THAT’S ONE-FIVE DEGREES NORTH, OR COUNTER MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP.” Canadians: “This is a lighthouse. Your call.” Remember, What you want, why you want it, may simply be obtainable. What you want may not be in your child’s best interest. We don’t get to be right all of the time.
UNDERSTAND You and your ex will each have your own viewpoints as to why you believe you are right. Viewpoints are lenses. Lenses can be based on your prior experiences, values, belief systems.
Your lenses will be different than
your ex’s. In preparing for this conversation ask yourself basic questions: How will your ex respond? Are you prepared for the response? Is there a
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better way to present the issue you are facing?
Is
there a better person that should inform your ex as
BIFF responses
to the problem you are seeing?
BIFF responses conclude with being “forceful”
RESPOND As a co-parent you want to be flexible with
Forceful responses Refer to the Order
your response. Can you identify where you agree and where you disagree? Can you then identify your conflict and how it should be resolved?
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In the worst case scenario ex to review a particular provision that most closely addresses the problems you are having.
Talking to Kids Planned Checklist Child Therapist
Name: _________________ Phone: _________________
Questions for Therapist
Answers from Therapist
1. 2. 3. Location for Kids Talk 1. What we Plan to Tell Kids 2. 3. 4. 5. How to Answer Questions from Children in Future
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Budget For Your Separation Husband
Bill – Month
Wife
Mortgage
Mortgage
Home insurance
Home Insurance
HOA
HOA
Property Taxes
Property Taxes
Water
Water
Internet
Internet
Electricity
Electricity
Credit Cards
Credit Card
1.
1.
2.
2.
3.
3.
Student Loan
Student Loan
Day care
Day Care
School tuition
School Tuition
Kids clothes
Kids Clothes
Personal clothes/effects
Personal Clothes/effect
Kids clothe
Kids Clothes
Gas
Gas
Therapy
Therapy
Bill – Month
Your Total income ________ - Debt = ______________ Spouse’s total income _______ - Debt = ______________
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Cost – Litigate Mediate or Collaborate Husband
Wife
Litigation
Litigation
Retainer
Retainer
Collaborative
Collaborative
Retainer
Retainer
Mediation
Mediation
Child Therapist
Child Therapist
Family Therapist
Family Therapist
Parent Facilitator
Parent Facilitator
Marriage Therapist
Marriage Therapist
Parent Coordinator
Parent Coordinator
Amicus
Amicus
Child
Child Custody
Custody Evaluator
Evaluator
Total Debt
__________
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__________
SHARE FURNISHINGS Items To Be Taken
Room Bedroom
Agreed
1. 2. 3.
_____________ _____________ _____________
1. 2. 3.
_____________ _____________ _____________
1. 2. 3. 1. 2. 3. 1. 2. 3.
_____________ _____________ _____________ _____________ _____________ _____________ _____________ _____________ _____________
Laundry Room
1. 2. 3.,
_____________ _____________ _____________
Garage/Storage
1. 2. 3.
_____________ _____________ _____________
Children’s Rooms
Living Room Guest Room Kitchen Room
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Define Conflict
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Menu Options Team Members Possible Team Member
Husband Approved
Parent Facilitator Parent Coordinator
Child Therapist Marriage Therapist 49
Wife Approved
Team Member
Husband Wife Approved Approved
Child Custody Evaluator Amicus
Guardian At Litem Child Custody Evaluator Amicus
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LEADING A CHALLENGING CONSERVATION Why are you conversation?
needing
to
initiate
a
challenging
Does this meeting concern: Actions of Other Parent
________________
Acts of Third Person that Effects Child
________________
Physical Safety of Child:
________________
Emotional Needs of Child:
________________
Educational Needs of Child
________________
Medical Needs of Child
________________
Child’s Wishes
________________
Other Child’s Needs
________________
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Why this Conversation Necessary My Lens – The problem, as I see it, are founded upon: My Religious Values
_______________
My Individual Value System
_______________
Family Values (How I was raised) _______________ Feeling of Mistrust of Ex
_______________
Feeling of Betrayal by Ex
_______________
My Education
_______________
Information I Received
_______________
How will your ex respond? Do you believe that your prior history with your ex will prevent you from communicating with each other to solve your problem? ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________
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Ex’s Lens My ex’s perceptions may cause a conflict Need to be in control
_______________
Religious Values
_______________
Individual Value System
_______________
Family Values (How I was raised) _______________ Emotions of Relationship
_______________
Education – What I have learned _______________ What They Have been told
_______________
By others
_______________
How do you believe your ex will react when you initiate this conversation? ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ Are you the one person who can initiate this conversation? Should it be brought up by another person? ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ What information does your ex have that I was not aware of
Could you be wrong? Why is your ex taking his or her position? ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________
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Are there any neutral professional’s I have spoken to who support my position? Who are they? Has my ex talked to them? If not, why not? ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ Are there third parties who support my ex’s position? Who are they? Have I talked to them? ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ If there are two professionals who have different opinions on this matter how do you and your ex suggest that you resolve this matter? How do the professionals suggest you resolve the differences of opinion? ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________
Collaborate: What professionals are there to help you collaborate and work the problem? _______
Family Therapist
_______ Therapist
_______
Therapist
_______ Dentist
_______
Child Therapist
_______ Psychologist
_______
Parent Coordinator
_______ Teacher
_______
Pediatrician
_______ Principle
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2021 Matt Sossi is a practicing family law attorney who is a trained family law mediator, parent coordinator and parent facilitator practicing family law in San Antonio, Texas. Matt was the prior executive director of Kids First Parents Second a 501c(3) nonprofit that helped create resources for children in parents in divorce. Matt Sossi authored: You’re an Apple and you Married an Orange in 2015, Mommy Daddy Troubles, 2015 and the A-Z guide to coparenting.
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YOU’RE AN APPLE
MARRIED TO AN ORANGE Part Two: A RELATIONAL SKILLS HANDBOOK TO COPARENTING
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