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to importantaeronauticalandmilitary authorities, to a number of public ofiicials and to a few publications~ "

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present writer has several university degrees and was formerly a ment head!.

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I920R.I-FOLK B01 AND PHOTO OF l7IS Bill Turrenline.

I3, -lgh tells Ledger-Dispatch 1-eporirr George llerherl left! of&#39;iln;- lot firrunistanrml 9292&#39;hls&#39;h eliahied him to take the |:boto:|&#39;n|1Il at la right of llflying film . ]&#39;Io9292&#39;e92&#39;vr. the Ito! said the ohjert |iirtlt|&#39;rl| hr: looked and moved more like 1football. lreing rounded and oral. rothl Bill look this picture from the porrh of his homo i The edges titan disc-like.

Fourteenth Hli&#39;cl&#39;t11 obetween cl0rk and noon &#39;l | ], 92tI1: &#39;|&#39;-Di!-t|tlllt&#39;]1 |n||n_92 lliishncl reiglittered. hesaid. andseemed to be 410 West. of at second.

Ports 01&#39; [lying dlswn and I|&#39;llll&#39;CI In trailing l dust.

Neither it nor the using an ohl vamrra, 92rllh- theshutter set at 1/100111 shown here was followed li_r two iiiiii lI|- olln-.r days, |1I |-son rr two which followed made any sold the flying football .- l&#39;l&#39;1 no sound. the ohjl-rt which Tur ones, all moving at about 000 miles an hour and he guessed they wt All |||Il&#39;|l .|. 14¢-rim-: rrnllnc ||iu|lugra||lu~d.!

Bill salcl he wasn t very surnhont 5,000 feet high. just bclqfv the clomis. The |92h0l0|&#39;{|&#39;.& ii However, ilill said he hail done nriseri whim he saw the object. ed hero in ||n enlargement mode by Photo Crnftmiien. In the Io: shortly ihut "almost killed n1_vseIf" getting ground of young fl ||rrrntine&#39;s |Iit&#39;t.iIro is tho |I0l t&#39;h of his rail lmlne. /. ~ili |ll. fast. 1ll092 ii&#39;|;{ himself nlargement madeby Photo Craftsit with his camera, set at Q" f 1el&#39;oi&#39;£.

Tan-stl~92&#39; anon 9292&#39;i"&#39;" 1" isitols of a second. | -null on his front. porrh and saw moom of i é . his 18-year-old sister, the large pl-a_92&#39; object. roekln f-1 lie called ".&#39;4 spinninsz like a football" and Josr-phine, to come and look. but Photo experts of this &#39;firm are i . i ind I . ; appareritiy she didn&#39;t believe him. con ~&#39;im&#39;cd the hnv that lid a fine -omim: from the li°Ulh9292 EI e Ll As the "flying football" passed oh with the old camera he was l lo ll fl inst returned from SumHZ. . Ili92 i at-hooi classes lover, Hill said he took three shots ft sing.

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others were seen near Perl-: View and Tierra. Amarillo, concerning "disc-like"

New Mexico.

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objects seen in New Mexico and other parts of the count

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on July 9,194 Ilneral . that seeuuen indicated toundertaken inthat the AirCorps every effort must be order to run down

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the angles covered in this and findings of the variou

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they are sincere in their

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discs approximately

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to the

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described as consisting of two convex steel

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outer edge

and fastened together in the center ny a hollow cylindrical connection.

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What appeared to be aradio in the center of the top side. The contraption had atotal approximately 20 pounds.

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At the Bureau Office

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The "flying disc" 1;: shereafter

into the

tube was installed weight of

of photographs were taken of the

device from various positions, and aset of these photographs forwarded herewith for the Bureau&#39;s inspectionand information.

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are being-

turned over to Major

_ly reported A.C., that the; G-2,dIg5rt hur, San ilac Pedro, California, who subseque &#3 _ject&#39;w§ definitely&#39;a hoax and under no circumstances

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that the disc had dropped into her garden where it began to flame, her residence being located at 11858 Magnolia Boulevard, North Hollywood. Afire department truck was sent there and put out the flaming object with the

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in North Hollywood, California,

paper reporters and photo sphere who were taking pictures of the disc.

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disc shaped, and having a radio antenna.

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in Ins Angeles had received information from the California, that a"flying disc had landed in or seen to burst into ame when it landed. Fbrther,

of afire rxv

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fire either

Resident Agent at near Burbank and been that ithad been the cause

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limits of Les Angeles, which Mk; Hood could not be certain.

The fire chief at Burbank had called the resident agent at Burbank and told him he vould

hold the disc for ms. 76

Coincident with the information received from Burbank, the Los Angeles Office received calls from the newspapers requesting information.

The newspapers stating they had called the Armir Air Force Intelligence who had stated "we are not interested", According to Ur. Hood, this comment had aroused the newspapers and they stated they intended to publish this quotation and oelabor same in their

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he had refrained from making anystatement

to the press other than to admit possession of an object and that it was being turned over to military authorities in the morning this AM!, it being Mr. Hood&#39;s opinion that. he did not want any quotes in the press and certainly not one to the effect that

we were not

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disc about 2&#39; in diameter weighing about ten and having some sort of e radio tube in the in possession

of the

military authorities the above

resident agent

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object was

an aluminum

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