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WOMEN’S LEADERSHIP

Changing the Rules of the Game

How Dawn Hudson, former president and CEO of Pepsi Cola North America and former CMO of the National Football League, introduced a fresh, female-infl uenced narrative to male-dominated organizations.

Stephanie Neil, Editor-in-Chief

During the Packaging & Processing Women’s Leadership Network (PPWLN) breakfast, which took place at PACK EXPO International in Chicago this past October, keynote speaker Dawn Hudson shared stories and advice to an audience of about 1,000 people. In a podcast with OEM editor Stephanie Neil, Hudson refl ects on some of the experiences during her career at Pepsi and the NFL, and offers guidance for women adjusting to challenging circumstances. Here is an excerpt of that conversation.

Neil: You said in the beginning of your keynote that you didn’t set out to build a career in a man’s world, but that’s exactly what happened to you. Can you briefl y bring us through that journey?

Hudson: Sure. I grew up outside of Boston… I went to Dartmouth College, and there were very few women there when I went…I will tell you, as much as I learned from my coursework, when you’re in an overall environment of 10% women and 90% men and there are no sororities and no college centers for the women to hang out at, you learned to fi nd other ways [to get by]. I became very good friends with many of the women that I was there with. But also, I learned to be friends with men, to compete in the classroom with men, to compete on sports fi elds with men. And I didn’t realize it was part of my education, but it was. After Dartmouth I went into advertising, which seemed to be a good fi t with me. I’m analytical on one side and creative on the other and that industry supports both. Today, the advertising industry is more than 50% women. At the time, it was 10% women. And, unfortunately today, it still doesn’t have enough women at the senior ranks and it defi nitely didn’t have women at the senior ranks then, so my Dartmouth experience was just carried over into advertising. I went on from there to work with a variety of clients including Frito-Lay. Frito then hired me…And from there I went to Pepsi in the marketing department, became chief marketing offi cer, eventually became president and then CEO of about a $5.5 billion division. But what was really interesting to me about Pepsi is at the time I was there, the bottling system was a franchise organization and it was 100 bottlers, from small familyowned businesses with seven trucks to multi-billion dollar

publicly traded companies. And 99 of the 100 were men. And so the big part of my job was trying to get alignment with this group that really invested their capital into making new products and putting them on their trucks and investing in launching them. I went out and got to know a lot of the men, I got to know their families, and it served me well. From there I ended up going to a consulting firm. But when we sold that firm to Ernst & Young and I was trying to figure out what to do, Roger Goodell at the NFL, whom I had worked with at Pepsi, offered an opportunity for me to go to work for them.

Neil: When you walked into the NFL what kind of reception did you get?

Hudson: I did feel like I was stepping back in time and I think that, while people outwardly supported me, I had to prove myself and I had to come to the table with something different. I wasn’t [initially] embraced and brought into the fold, but I would say six months later I very much had great relationships pretty much across the senior team. When I joined the NFL, it was literally in the middle of the Ray Rice domestic violence incident. And when organizations are under real stress and times of challenge, they change more and they have to act differently. So all of a sudden, I had a set of skills in my past, having fought the cola wars and been in Washington to defend soft drinks against obesity, that was very valuable in that environment. And I had a female perspective. So I really had to partner with everyone from the head of football operations to how we were communicating with the players to obviously PR to working with the media group. And I think that cemented and made me feel very much part of the team more quickly than ordinarily would’ve happened had I got into a business as usual, everything’s going great situation.

Neil: So, you’re walking into a crisis, but do you feel like maybe your perspective as a woman was an advantage here to shift the narrative?

Hudson: Oh, I think absolutely. First of all, it was a few other of the women at the NFL that had already started down a path. I literally joined the NFL and took my mom to Africa and safari to play out something I’d planned for a long time. And I came back and the Ray Rice video had gone viral while I was gone. So there were a set of people already starting to work on some initiatives, and they were women. I’m always someone that used data…One in four people in this country are affected by domestic violence. We must listen, learn, and figure out what can we do to help. And so the first thing we did was make people aware of the issue, [and to] know that there’s help out there. Then as we started to get toward the Super Bowl, we learned that we were really growing awareness and there was a lot more outreach to these services…Anyone in that situation, regardless of sex or race or creed, they need a community to help them get out of that situation. So that’s what we focused on in the playoffs and it led to a Super Bowl commercial. But I do believe that a female perspective, and personal knowledge through others, and a team of women that I was working with certainly helped. And that didn’t mean that there wasn’t male perspective in it too.

Watch the NFL’s Super Bowl 2015 commercial addressing domestic violence.

Neil: I want to switch gears a little bit here and ask you, who are the band of sisters?

Hudson: The band of sisters. We are a group of six women who grew up at PepsiCo and some of us were there for over

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