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Worst political songs NAME: Staci Rene Root, 24
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DREAM JOB: To eat and get paid for it COVETED SUPERPOWER: To clone myself so I could go to school, work and travel at the same time DREAM VACATION: Mexico FAVORITE LOCAL RESTAURANT: Tequila's FAVORITE BAR IN TOWN: It's a tie between Jai's and Casino 3 MOVIES YOU’D TAKE ON A DESERTED ISLAND: Beetlejuice, Dreamquest and Honey, I Shrunk the Kids 3 BOOKS YOU’D TAKE TO PRISON: A Wrinkle In Time, The Great Gatsby, Dark Roots
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4. “Let the Eagle Soar" (John Ashcroft) TELL US A JOKE: What's the hardest part about rollerblading? Telling your parents you're gay. CITY OR COUNTRY? City 3 CDs YOU’D TAKE ON A ROAD TRIP: anything from Ani DiFranco, MIA and Kylie Minogue
5. "McCain/Palin Tradition" (Hank Williams Jr.) 6. “Where Have All The Flowers Gone” (Peter, Paul and Mary) 7. “Yes We Can” (will.i.am)
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People who ought to be president 1. Ralph Nader 2. Erik B. 3. Al Gore 4. Scarlett Johansson 5. Chuck D. 6. Chuck Norris 7. Andy Rooney
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WHEN: Friday, Oct. 24, music begins at 6 p.m. Second Supper will not be endorsing any candidates in this issue, one that is devoted to entirely to politics (the Do This included, unfortunately). We believe that electoral choices are personal decisions that should not be pushed and swayed by the rhythms of groupthink. We are a nation of individuals after all, and how can we have a government that reflects our diverse interests if we all rally around the same candidates? But Second Supper will make one solid endorsement right here. Sometimes it is alright to push and sway against the masses.There are times when throwing yourselves behind the same cause can be thrilling and, when properly harnessed, life-changing. So in that spirit, here is your straight from the staff pick of the issue: Get out this weekend and rock! May we recommend the Get out the Vote concert scheduled this Friday at 6 p.m., at Valhalla Hall in UW-La Crosse’s Cartwright Center? Four bands are scheduled to perform that evening: indie kids This Machine, rock alchemists Porcupine, local favorite Gregg “Cheech” Hall and Minneapolis’ poprocky the Hasbeen. The concert is free and open to the public, so come on down to enjoy a rocking night of political awareness and voter participation! (Full disclosure:This event is sponsored by College Democrats of UW-La Crosse and Viterbo.)
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maria.pint@secondsupper.com When you’re a worry wart like me, certain times of the year just tend to be overwhelming. I can barely handle Christmas-time because I never know what to buy my mother and I hate Thanksgiving because I never know what to talk about with my crazy relatives that we only see on Thanksgiving. It’s a little ridiculous, I know, but I can’t help but dwell on the stupid little details in my life. And I have nothing in common with those cousins except for turkey, so you can’t even blame me for worrying about that; it’s legit! There’s other times of the year when I get even more stressed than the holidays however. One of those horrible times of year just came and passed, and surprisingly I’m still alive. Last week was midterm week and I, like countless other UW-L students, had way too many tests and not enough hours in the day. In total, I had three tests, a quiz and for the record, I don’t even have class on Fridays so that was all in a four day span. Ugh, I’m so glad it’s over. I totally set myself up for failure too, basically because I’m an idiot. The weekend before the week of hell I was the only one in my apartment; all three roommates decided to leave me alone to study study study in complete and utter silence. And what did I do? I watched HBO around the clock, rearranged my room and got in the habit of walking around naked just because I could. A little too much information I’m sure, but I just thought you should know. But you know what they say about procrastination: it’s just like masturbation, in the end you just end up fucking yourself. All week long I would cram, take a test, cram, take a test; you get the idea. And after every single test, I walked out of the room and started cursing my nudist habits from the previous weekend when I could have and SHOULD have been studying. I felt like such an idiot and I didn’t even have anyone to blame but myself. I hate when there’s
no scapegoat! Then my grades started rolling in. Some came electronically and some from ridiculously prompt teachers who must have stayed up as late as their procrastinating students grading the exams. I got the first grade from my midterm fiasco back the very next day after I took that first test and I got the sweats in class as she was handing them back. She called my name, I raised my hand, and soon the upside down pieces of paper lay on the desk in front of me. I took a deep breath and flipped it over to reveal a 98/100. For those of you who aren’t math majors, that’s 98% and a freaking miracle. From that point on, the grades kept rolling in and they were all good, too good. It almost appears as if I’m paying my professors off, which is a great idea but not one that I had before I started midterms. My peers are seriously starting to get mad at me because I keep telling them how I’m pulling answers out of my butt and it just seems to be working out for me. On the quiz I had during midterms which was in one of my math classes, I literally wrote down an arbitrary value and got half credit on that problem. Some call it luck, and in this case, I would agree with them. I’m starting to think that it’s a little something more than luck, though. The other day, a math professor that I had only once freshman year saw me in Cowley Hall reading the Second Supper and said, “Oh, reading your own stuff, huh?” I was flabbergasted; how did he even remember me/recognize me?! But most of all, I was honored. I feel as if I’m a local celebrity now (just like Dan Breeden) and I’m sure none of my current professors want to fail such a local icon. I wouldn’t if I were them. The outpouring of love from the greater La Crosse area has actually been pretty ridiculous lately. In two separate classes over the past month, I've been in small groups when a group member asked me my name to put on the paper and recognized me from my column. Both of those girls then proceeded to tell me how much they liked College Sucks and one of them was even excited to tell her roommate that she had met me. Then there was this past weekend when I was at an establishment downtown when some guy walked by us and my friend and I called him a womanizer ("Womanizer" by Britney Spears was playing, duh). Instead of being confused or getting a little offended, he looked at me and said “Hey, I recognize you! You’re Maria Pint, right?” Again, I was shocked beyond belief and then he bought me a drink, score! So thank you Chris, you can buy me a vodka-cran any old time you feel like it! I’m generally used to people not even knowing what the Second Supper is when I mention that I write for it so the fact that so many people have been recognizing me lately just blows my mind. So please, La Crosse, keep the love coming! I do enjoy the recognition.
Fixing democracy
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By Brett Emerson
brett.emerson@secondsupper.com Recently, I was at dinner with my family on one of their weekend swings into town. In the booth we jumped into another conversation shared by millions at this time, on politics and the coming election. During the typical whodo-you-want-to-win? presidential question — which promised as much insight as a room full of girls and a Tiger Beat — my mom looked at me, her eyes cocked sideways and full of the pity one holds for the socially unacceptable. “You’re still not going to vote?” she asked. I shook my head. Across the table, my uncle harrumphed. It was obvious to him that I was shirking my duty as a citizen, thumbing my nose at what this country was founded on and stood for, one’s views on the true motives of the Founding Fathers notwithstanding. But I stood my ground, explained my belief that democracy is a fine idea in theory but pales against human savagery and manipulation. Combating the problems which face society, I continued, requires much more than token Halloween dress-up, showing up on one day of the year, blowing the seeds of Democracy and rolling over and going back to sleep. For such a straight-arrow, civicminded man, my uncle seemed satisfied with my answer, convinced that it wasn’t a position of apathy. My mom would tell me the next day that, as they returned to the ancestral manse, he said without sarcasm that I had things well figured out. There was something which clicked within this conversation that hadn’t come to me in quite the same way before. It was an idea that activism is far, far more important than simply voting one’s lip service to democracy. One may vote however one wishes — or not at all — but the citizen’s obligation is far from over after Election Day.
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The point of democracy, in the ideal as I view it, is that a society’s citizens exert a constant pressure upon the people they elect. Awareness, and when need be protest in the streets or over the air, is sacred. Every person in the country could vote for a single candidate, but that landslide means nothing without a continual accountability pressed upon the elected. One’s side, one’s opinions on the issues are irrelevant. When one position is weak, all are weakened through complacency, arrogance and atrophy. There’s a lot of cynicism which beats us into a resignation toward the prospects of holding our representatives accountable. Even George W. Bush, easily the most despised president in recent history, has met with a comparatively appalling lack of direct challenge. When such an easy villain can sweep nationwide animosity under the rug it’s hard to believe that anyone can do much about our popular despots. And that’s just what the rulers want. Yet in an age of Internet, where communication has led to such spectacular uprisings as a 5-million-strong Rick Roll of Shea Stadium, it’s easier than ever to access the offices of power and make your words heard. It takes only minutes to email anyone in government. Yes, it’s also easier for an errant assistant to delete those words, but that’s not the point. Relentlessness will pay off. Politicians live and die by the election year. It seems like this is the only point in their careers where many perk up their ears and glad-hand the public. But here’s hoping that the recent upswing in civic optimism doesn’t fade after the next two weeks. It’s up to you to ensure that business doesn’t go back to normal. Keep caring. I don’t believe that democracy works. I’m always glad when I’m proved wrong.
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Every vote (maybe) counts
By Ben Clark
benjamin.clark@secondsupper.com Another Election Day approaches, and the candidates are gearing up their last-ditch efforts to ensure that they’ll get as many voters as possible to pull the lever in their names. According to the rules, all of the votes will be counted, everybody who is eligible to vote will, and if everything goes according to plan, the tally of votes towards a candidate will be no more or no less than was casted. No voters will have been turned away from the polls, and democracy will reign supreme once again. But, as per usual, things hardly work out this way. And even in the “land of the free,” inconsistencies and voter fraud more often than not come to light each election year. With our look towards the future, paperless ballots and electronic voting machines are becoming more and more popular, with estimates of over 37 percent of the ballots that will be cast this year coming come from these new machines. As new technology makes its way into the political foray, new types of voter fraud are becoming evident. Perhaps the biggest example of how electronic voting can go so wrong is to look at the last couple of elections that have taken place, and to look at the evidence of fraud that eventually came to light. Towards the end of the 20th century, Diebold — a major corporation that specializes in the making of ATMs, bank safes and vaults — started up a special division of their company dedicated to making electronic voting machines. In 2002, the division began to distribute the electronic voting machines to a number of states to be used in upcoming elections, including Kansas, Georgia, Pennsylvania and Ohio. During 2003, Diebold began to receive criticism over their newly released electronic voting machines, claiming that machines were severely lacking in security features, making it especially easy to hack and to tamper with the number of votes given to a candidate. Another thing to keep in mind is that these electronic voting machines are designed to be completely paperless, meaning that if fraud were to occur, there would be no way to directly link it to a particular voting district, as there is nothing to fall back on to verify each vote. I don’t like to bring up the political associations of Diebold leaders, but I feel that in
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this circumstance it is an important part to our story. Walden O’Dell, who at the time was the chief executive of the company, was a personal fundraiser for the Bush campaign during 200304, and is quoted in August of 2003 saying that he is “committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." For those of you that remember the 2004 presidential election, Ohio did not emerge as the picture-perfect example of democracy in action. Let’s fast forward to Election Night 2004. As more and more states are reporting their votes, all eyes turn towards Ohio. Electronic voting machines turned in a rather disturbing pattern; the exit polls from the districts clearly showed a Kerry victory, while the machines were in turn reporting numbers that were wildly off base. Voters interviewed after the election said they had encountered a variety of problems with the electronic voting machines, including that the machine would register a vote for Kerry as a vote for Bush. Instead of this seeming to be just a number of coincidences, numerous voters in a variety of districts testified that this mistake had indeed taken place. Another means of voter fraud is much less involved. In the 2000 election, Florida removed around 57,700 voters from their registered voters list with the charge that the names were those of convicted felons who were prohibited from voting due to their charges. However, a majority of those names were “false-positives” and as a result, had been removed by accident. How could such a massive oversight have gone away without question? Well, most of the voters that were purged from these registered voter lists were African-American and resulted in a post-election lawsuit brought forth by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored Persons and other organizations, who agreed to a settlement and the state to reinstate all whose names had been wrongly purged of the registered voters list. A small price for the state to pay considering the disenfranchisement of nearly 50,000 voters. Reports also surfaced of a number of districts performing “voter suppression.” The idea behind voter suppression is that the majority of those turned away would have been inclined to vote for the opposition. Dennis Kucinich reported of such acts happening in his home state of Ohio during the 2004 election: “Dirty tricks occurred across the state, including phony letters from Boards of Elections telling people that their registration through some Democratic activist groups were invalid and that Kerry voters were to report on Wednesday because of massive voter turnout. Phone calls to voters giving them erroneous polling information were also common.” These are but a few of the means of election fraud that have been witnessed so far happening in this very country in the past decade. When you go to the polls on November 4, please keep in mind that it is illegal for the polling official to turn you away from voting for any reason whatsoever if you are already registered. Remember, it is your right to vote, and no matter what happens, there is no reason for that right to be taken away from you.
We § Joe
Dearest Joe, It’s me again, the Media. How are you? I am fine. I know we’ve had our differences. That incident with the tandem bike at Myrtle Beach didn’t help us resolve them. But I just want you to know that I would never do anything to hurt you. You know I wouldn’t. How’s the plumbing business going? Did you get your license yet? I hope you did. I know how much you enjoy plumbing. It would be great if Al sold you the shop. I remember the night we sat outside the Cleveland Airport, lying on the hood of your old Pontiac, and you told me how much you dreamed of owning your own toilet emporium. You know, I don’t forget my friends’ dreams so easily. But yeah, we drifted apart. I know we both did some things that we weren’t proud of. You seduced my sister in the Elks’ Club coat room, and I misreported the plumbing shop’s income as $300K, guaranteeing a higher tax rate under Barack Obama’s proposed economic plan, when at best, Al’s poop palace was pulling in about $30 grand a year. It wasn’t a nice thing to do, I know. But I want to turn things around, Joe. I want us to be friends again. To do that, I’m going to make you some promises. Joe, I promise that I will never, ever raise taxes on small businesses. I guarantee it. You know I’m good for my word, baby! I’m not even in politics! You won’t have a thing to worry about from my end, which will free you up to run your business the way you want to. Furthermore, I promise you that you will enjoy the full scope of journalistic immunity under the aegis of my friendship. Not one negative word concerning you or your family will ever go out over the television, radio, newsprint or even those crappy parody movies that the Wayans Brothers put out every six months. If someone so much as uses Morse code against you I will be on them like a ton of bricks! Your total protection is guaranteed under my policies. From here on in, I promise that Fridays will be “Date Night.” I will provide a delicious home-cooked meal, perhaps a nice Swanson Chicken Pot Pie or a Tombstone Frozen Pizza. Afterwards, you and I can curl up on the loveseat and take in a showing of WWE Smackdown! I will rub scented oils into your beautiful scalp, and we can spend the rest of the night drinking Schlitz and slow dancing to Charlie Rich and Garth Brooks until the sun comes up. I’m thinking of buying a heart-shaped hot tub that we could get some miles out of, too! If you choose to resume our friendship, I promise that I will hire Secret Service agents to babysit your kids at no cost to you. OK, you got me; I can’t really come up with any Secret Service agents per se, but I have a solid lead on a guy named Schmitty who works at Scamp’s, that titty bar outside of town. My sources say that he went as Agent Smith from the Matrix movies one Halloween. It appears that he still has the suit and his Ray-Bans — well, he lost the tie, but any old bow tie will do. Schmitty cleans up real nice, I’ve been told, and he owes the local anchorman a favor for burying a damaging story — something about an eyepatch-wearing stripper and a trashcan fire. So Schmitty agreed that he’d hang at your place and watch the kids, so Hildie can get back to McDonald’s and start pulling her weight again. Hey, I’ll throw in a little something extra, there. If we become friends again, I swear to Jesus almighty that I’ll quit the Bengals and start rooting for the Browns. I know you catch a lot of hell from the boys on account of rooting for the wrong side of the state. But I promise that I’ll be right there with you; hell, I’ll even paint Bernie Kosar on the hood of every news van in Ohio! If you want, I’ll even make you governor, just like I did with Schwarzenegger! All you have to do is ask. Joe, I could make a million more promises to you, all of which I would keep, but let’s cut to the chase. I miss you so much. I miss your jokes and the way you laugh and your ability to unclog pipes. I’m sorry I ever took your friendship for granted; I never will again. Please come back. Love, The Media
Your guide to the City of La Crosse ballot State Senate: District 32 Candidates Dan Kapanke (R) Incumbent Health Care: Has record of legislative work on mental health, autism, cochlear ear plants and dental services. Issues need to be addressed, but system doesn't need to be completely overhauled. Economy: Boost Wisconsin's economy by making the state a leader in "green collar" jobs. Plan includes a tax credit for renewable energy companies, so jobs stay in Wisconsin. Education: State needs to make funding higher education a priority. Tara Johnson (D) Health Care: Wants a portable, comprehensive, accessible and transparent health care system. Stresses need for legislators who make that a top priority. Economy: Has record of voting for "green" initiatives, including construction of the new jail. Education: Says the state has been "gridlocked" by irresponsible descisions when it comes to higher education. Calls for an end to partisan bickering to gain funding.
Representative in Congress: District 3 Candidates Ron Kind (D) Incumbent Economy: Family farms are backbone of Wisconsin's economy. Last year led a major effort to change the current subsidy system that benefits a few of the largest and wealthiest producers at the expense of everyone else. Health Care: Is developing legislation to make it easier for small businesses to purchase affordable, quality health insurance for their employees. Education: Reform No Child Left Behind. Emphazise physical education and health. Iraq: Remains committed to a responsible redeployment of our troops from Iraq. Believes in a clear plan and timeline. Paul Stark (R) Economy: The federal government must reign in its unchecked spending. Education: Every American should be given an education voucher so that we can send our children to the school of our choice. Military: Continue the fight against fanatical Islam wherever it is found. Would promote a strong, up-to-date military.
Referenda #1 Question: "Shall the next State Legislature enact health care reform legislation by December 31, 2009 that guarantees every Wisconsin resident affordable health care coverage as good as what is provided to State Legislators?" Over 32,000 Wisconsin residents have signed a petition to make sure this referendum appears on November's ballot. If it passes, it only advises legislators to take action, rather than binding them to it. The referendum does not outline a specific funding plan, so it will be up to lawmakers to decide the details. Kevin Barrett (Libertarian) Economy: Nationalize the Federal Reserve and return to a defend-theborders posture. Bust up monopolies; give small and enterprises a chance to compete. Health Care: Advocate single-payer health care, as is the system in Canada. Education: Greatest challenge is to improve elementary and secondary education. Emphazize critical thinking in schools instead of socializing students. Iraq: End the war now. Try executives who planned and directed the invasion as war criminals.
#2 Shall the following Initial Resolution be approved?: "BE IT RESOLVED by the School Board of the School District of La Crosse, La Crosse and Vernon Counties, Wisconsin that there shall be issued pursuant to Chapter 67 of the Wisconsin Statutes, general obligation bonds in an amount not to exceed $18,500,000 for the public purpose of paying the cost of adding to, renovating and upgrading exisitng school facilities including HVAC, safety, and security systems." This will be the second time this year that voters will decide on a La Crosse School referendum. In April, voters rejected part of a $35 million referendum that included building a new school. This time the board has cut the cost almost in half in hopes of increasing support. School board members say that the money will go toward urgent facility needs in the district, including better heating, ventilation and air conditioning (HVAC). Consolidation of Franklin Elementary and Roosevelt/Coulee Montessori schools have also been discussed.
How to vote in La Crosse Word on the street is that this election is gonna be an historic event. Lots of angry folks and droves of the apathetic plan to flood the polling booths on November 4. State Representatives Mike Huebsch and Jennifer Shilling said last week that voter turnout will likely reach an all-time high this Election Day: 80-85 percent of registered voters are expected to cast their ballots in average districts, and the more politically active neighborhoods — like campus and downtown — can expect to see voter turnouts closer to 90 percent. Voters beware, then: Expect long lines and mass confusion come election day. Polls will open at 7 a.m. and close at 8 p.m., but if you are in line to vote before the evening cutoff, your ballot will still be counted, said La Crosse city clerk Teri Lehrke. As Wisconsinites, we're lucky. We have one of the most liberal voting policies in the entire country. There's no need for justification: anyone can vote early — known in Wisconsin as voting absentee — for any reason. To cast your ballot early, all La Crosse residents need to do is head on down to City Hall (400 La Crosse Street) and march on up to the second floor. There, you can head to the City Clerk's office, official ID and proof of residence in hand, and cast your ballot. Proof of residence, you ask? In Wisconsin, all that really means is proof you've lived here for ten days or more.You can bring your latest Xcel Energy bill, CenturyTel bill or any other piece of mail postmarked at least ten days before the election. A photo ID is not required, but it can't hurt. UW-La Crosse and Viterbo University students have an additional registration resource, Lehrke said, as poll workers will have certified enrollment lists from those schools--, and college voters can show their student ID to prove residence. If you still haven't registered to vote, here's a piece of advice: DO IT. It's neither difficult nor painful. Just head on down to City Hall and bring the aforementioned pieces of identification. If you're lucky enough to be on campus, there is a registration booth in the lobby of Cartwright Center every day. To see where you are currently registered — or to be reminded of your polling place — visit the Voter Public Access Web site at vpa.wi.gov. On Friday, October 24, buses will be transporting early voters from the UW-L campus to City Hall between 1-4 p.m. Buses will be leaving regularly from Badger Street between C. Wimberly Hall and Murphy Library, so get your lazy ass down there and cast your ballot. Don't wait until the last minute to (ab)use your rights! Do your research, consider your candidates and let democracy ring come November 4! — Emily Faeth
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kelly.sampson@secondsupper.com OK, so I’m new to this whole election thing. I told my father, an extreme Republican, that I was not going to vote until I saw someone worth voting for. He responded with the comment, “Well then why don’t you vote who I’m going to vote for? It will be like I voted twice.” Hmm, let me think about that. “No.” I’m 25 going on 26 and have never voted. Yeah, you heard me. So when I called my dad and told him that this was going to be my year, I found someone worthy of my vote, he proceeded to tell me that Barack Obama likes to kill babies, and he was not kind about it. He was very insulted, and distraught. He was yelling at me! I thought I was 15 again and caught sneaking out of the house. I understand yelling at me then; I could have been hurt. But how am I hurting myself by voting for who I like? Then he got so angry that I was not listening to him and he was about to hang up, on his own child! All over a checkmark box! You know, Dad, if you don’t like whom I like, that’s fine, but why go to such extremes? I have found that everyone, no matter who they are, has an opinion — which is their right, right? There is such a thing as freedom of speech, but you must remember that there is also something called freedom of peace, and if I don’t agree with your opinion, I am well within my right to walk away. If you don't like my opinion, that's cool; you can leave, too.You don't get to yell at me in public outside the local coffee house, and no matter how you slice it, no one has the right to follow me when I do walk away
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and shove their opinion down my neck! People talk about how you have to be well-informed; you have to know the facts. So stop telling me an opinion and let me get on the Internet or watch the TV and learn them myself. I am not a very political person, but I want to learn about the world around me. So when someone starts to talk about the election or some referendum thing that is happening, I try to listen. I try to learn. I do have some opinions of my own, and I like my opinions. I got them by doing some research and first of all, knowing where I stand on certain issues. I'm not just talking from one side of the fence either. Yes I am going to vote for Obama, but this is all coming from the concept of freedom that, silly me, I thought should come into play. Neither side is innocent. There were protesters at the John McCain Rally. Yes this falls under the freedom of speech right, but when you try to “convert” people, you’re just being pushy and rude. I don't care for the guy's ideas on some points, and others are OK. I don't think that a lot of people understand that you have to look at the whole, and not just the part. So just sit back and listen to the words and if you still don't like what you hear, then just walk away, and let the people who want to listen listen! There are McCain supporters who go around and steal the Obama signs out of people’s yards! Who gives you the right to vandalize the property of others? I will give anyone $100 if they can show me in the Constitution of the United States of America where it says, "Don't vandalize, unless of course you really don't like
something, then it's OK." They got a hold of my brother's sign. He was devastated; some one actually STOLE his sign, leaving a small note on white paper with magazine letters on it, saying to leave a brown paper bag with a chocolate raspberry scone in it under the mailbox on the corner of Fifth and Jackson! They lied, he never saw that sign again. We had a memorial on Thursday. It was raining, but beautiful. If you want to have a civil conversation about the election, that’s fine, I’m game. But if all you want to do it make up lies up and spin the truth, you can leave now, and please don’t let the door hit ya where your DNA said to split ya. I’m of the opinion that we all get to have an opinion. The difference between extremists and me is that if I don’t like your opinion, I’m
going to walk away, whereas an extremist will yell at you. If you can’t grow up and play nice, then take your ball and go home. No one wants you here. But, you DO have the right to play in the street if you so wish, just don’t take it personally when I don’t jump up and join you in traffic. There was this one Republican who thought it would be a good idea to follow me around and force McCain in my face. I think I made a comment about — oh what was it I said? Keep in mind I don’t hate McCain; I just wanted to anger this guy at this point. I told him “Don’t try and shove McCain down my throat. That’s why he got Sarah Palin.” Thank God I was wearing good running shoes that day.
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The Truth campaign he entered the field of politics for the first time and defeated longtime activist Ben Olson in a primary to become the Libertarian nominee for Congress, challenging longtime Democratic incumbent Ron Kind. This week Second Supper joined Barrett at a corner booth at Jules — we had coffee; he had tea — to discuss campaign tactics, his chances against Kind and his personal mission of
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Kevin Barrett never wanted to be a politician or a celebrity or a lightning rod for the 9/11 Truth movement, but he’s all three of those things today. No, before his quiet scholarship erupted into a national debate over conspiracy theories and academic freedom, Barrett, the Libertarian candidate for Wisconsin’s 3rd Congressional District, just wanted to be a professor. His rise to fame began in 2006 when the recent Ph.D. was appointed to a one-semester position at UW-Madison, lecturing a class on Islamic history and culture whose 15th week covered the ongoing War on Terror. Barrett said he introduced many different opinions on the subject, but the most noteworthy one was his own: that the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 were an inside job orchestrated by members of the U.S. government. As they say around some parts, that kinda thinkin’ wasn't received too well — not in the north woods of Wisconsin and not in the studios of Fox News.When word of Barrett’s syllabus reached the public, lawmakers and talk radio hosts called on the university to fire him. Pundits assailed Barrett as a dangerous radical infecting young minds, while the growing 9/11 Truth movement recognized him as a leader. Barrett just wanted to keep teaching, but despite university support and positive reviews from his students, his contract was not renewed. Yet rather than shrink away from the spotlight, Barrett became more outspoken for the Truther cause, authoring two books on the subject and hosting an independent radio show.This winter
Second Supper: Beyond just the 9/11 Truth movement, your platform includes issues like universal health care and ending the war. There are a lot of other activists campaigning for those issues, so why did you feel the need to run for public office?
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Kevin Barrett: Since there was a huge historic change on 9/11 — we had an empire before; we had secret rule by an elite financial clique of oligarchs before; we had wars before — but with 9/11 it really went into high gear, and history turned on a dime. If we’re going to change direction in a major way, rather than trying to put out all these brush fires, going to the source of the problem — which is 9/11 — is the best way to go. So since there are so few 9/11 Truth people running for public office, I thought it was something that needed to be done. I hoped other people would do it, and some have, but I was in a position to do it more easily than many people because of my name recognition, so it was a pretty easy decision. ... And running for office allows me to penetrate the defenses of the mainstream media — now that they’re locking us out again. They spent the summer of 2006 admitting we existed and attacking us, and it backfired because lots and lots of people saw me on the TV and thought “Wow, this is pretty strange and crazy. I better check it out.” Then they go and do a little bit of research and say “Holy shit!”
SS: What have been some specific tactics or strategies you’ve used to get people to vote for you? KB: We’ve done some innovativ=e campaign stuff like polling. Very rarely will you have an outside campaign like mine actually conducting polls. We’ve done three polls so far and we found some very interesting things. For instance we found that 22 percent of people in multivoter homes in this district, where one person has voted in the recent election — those are the primo households — 22 percent of people in those households say that they think 9/11 might have been an inside job. That’s the highest [polling] number that anyone’s ever gotten anywhere for “inside job.” That was quite newsworthy. Unfortunately it wasn’t picked up much by the media. Another poll recently showed that 79 percent of people in this district from those same types of households want to bail out the people and not the bankers. Given that Ron Kind has voted twice for this $700 billion banker bailout that all the economists admit couldn’t possibly work — and now they admit that it didn’t work; all it did was line the pockets of the fat cat criminals that got us into this in the first place — and he just keeps voting for it. Admitting his phone calls are running 50 percent “no” and 50 percent “hell no,” it seems that having a candidate like me who’s totally aligned with the population and outspoken about it would be newsworthy. And I’m sure it is for your paper. SS: Haha, my paper. How do you think it’s played
out in the rest of the papers? KB:Well the rest of the papers are really covering up for the criminals in power. That’s really all you can say. I think a lot of them are not fully conscious of it. They’re sort of living in a reality bubble — or a Matrix, if you will. … So I’m not that surprised that they’re not covering it. But I really think these polls were eminently newsworthy. We found quite a bit of interesting stuff, including the vast majority of people want easier ballot access for third parties; they want third parties in debates; they want legalized medical marijuana — a bunch of issues that you don’t hear about in the mainstream media. There’s a huge groundswell of support going on, but those issues are shut down by the corporate mainstream media. SS: I was reading through the articles on your Web site, and the most positive ones — and maybe even the majority of articles — were from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and the Madison newspapers. But those aren’t even in the 3rd District. KB: Yeah, I’ve had a problem in the district. The Eau Claire paper — what is it, the Leader-Telegraph? — they’re pretty much blacking me out. I’m going to have to go kick in the door to get any coverage there. … The Tribune here is covering me, but the word “conspiracy theorist” gets used too much. Chris [Hubbuch] here, who’s now doing the stories on me after the
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that like him until you tell them what he’s voted for — and then they don’t like him. The problem is that there are a whole lot of people that just have this nice impression of him. He’s sort of a triumph of impressionistic politics….His impression is that he’s against the war, and he intentionally cultivates that impression, says “I thought it was a bad idea before it started.” But in reality he’s voted for it every single time.
SS: Has anything about this campaign surprised you, or has it played out as you thought it would? KB: There were surprising things about this campaign. I was actually kind of surprised that I won the Libertarian primary in a landslide on a single-payer health care platform. Not one Libertarian in the country besides me is for that, so winning in a landslide there was a shock. … I was also surprised and pleased to get endorsed by Jesse Ventura. That meant a lot to me, given that he’s probably the biggest inspiration for this. SS: Ron Kind has been in office for 12 years. I think he’s got something like a 30 to 40 percentage point lead. KB: Oh, is that all? SS:Yeah. It’s a nail-biter. KB: What do we got, two weeks? That’s 20 points a week. SS: But I guess my question is: Do you think you can win this election, and if not, is there something greater that you’re running for? KB: Well, as a realist, looking at the poll numbers now I think it would take a miracle for me to win. Political miracles do happen — Jesse
Ventura did pull off a minor miracle — but the real purpose of my campaign is educational. And that would be true whether I win or lose. If I somehow win and go to D.C., I’m not going to be able to get my policies implemented overnight. I’m just going to have to bang the drums and use that position as a soapbox and educate the people to the point that the political will exists to get these programs through.
a lot of interesting stuff brought up — everything from single-payer health care to ending the war to “shoot your television,” which I was pretty happy to see out there.
SS: I was on your Web site, and it looks like you have a 25-point platform on there. There’s
SS: But given that you stand for those 24 other points, do you think people are kind of hung up on this 9/11 issue?
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KB: I’m not sure that that’s my biggest disadvantage, really. The advantage is it’s given me name recognition, and if 22 percent of people in the primo voting households say it might have been an inside job, what do people say outside of those households? …. I don’t think it’s the 9/11 issue that’s really handicapping me — except maybe in the media — I think the real handicap is being in a third party. You look at how third parties have performed: It’s really hard to break out of the 2 percent of the vote rut when you’re running as a third party candidate.
Likewise with the bailout he gives the impression that “well, I know my constituents are against it, and it’s a really terrible thing” — “they held a gun to our head,” he said; maybe it’s that threat of martial law that we heard about — but he voted for it. And likewise with those “shred the Constitution bills,” he voted for every single one of them: the Patriot Act I and II, the FISA bill, the “Thought Crime Bill.” All of these outrageous assaults on the Bill of Rights, he voted for every single one of them. He’s just the quintessential wimp Democrat, and I’m going to come out and call him a wimp now because he won’t debate me. He promised he would — it’s on record, on video — back in the spring. I’m still getting the runaround from his office. This guy is the quintessential wimp, but a master of impressionistic politics, and because the media is willing to just convey impressions rather than look for facts, he gets away with it. SS:What should we expect from your campaign these last two weeks? KB: I think the main thing is to get in Kind’s face, and at this point if he continues to fail to debate— which looks like appears is going to happen — I will be dogging him as colorfully as I can during these last two weeks just to draw attention to the fact that he has failed to keep his promise, and the reason for that is that he knows that his positions are not the positions of the people in his district. He took nearly $200,000 from the financial services industry and voted for this bailout of the world’s richest bankers that has done nothing to help out this economy. The more people we can wake up on that, the more votes I’ll get. That’ll be nice, but more importantly people will wake up and say “Wait a minute. What’s going on here?”
SS: Do you think you can beat [Republican nominee] Paul Stark?
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KB: [laughs] That would be a stunning victory if I somehow did that. To be perfectly honest I think Paul Stark has his 20, 25 percent of church-going, right-thinking theocrats — like him — who will follow him wherever he goes, so I would have to break at least 20, probably 25 percent to beat him, and that would be absolutely unheard of for a third-party candidate in a three-way race. The record is, I think, 11 percent or 12 percent, so that would be an all-time national record for a Libertarian in a three-way race. SS: But Ron Kind — a six-term Blue Dog Democrat — have you found much opposition to him while you’ve been campaigning? KB: You know there are a lot of people that don’t like him, and there are a lot of people
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Nick Ghanbarian: A lot of our albums have been studio albums that were mellow sounding by the time we got done with them. This time around we took a new attitude in. I think it shows. We all agree that it’s the best we could have done and the best we have done yet.
NG: We’re traveling in a bus, so it’s more like being in an apartment. We go for walks and explore towns. Physically, we’re not spring chickens anymore, so we have to stay active before we start blowing out our knees onstage. We work out as much as we can on the road. At this point, we’ve got it down.
NG: Yes. It’s not an overnight process. Anthony [Raneri] does most of the writing, and he’s always thinking about songs and lyrics. Once we decide to buckle down is when he starts to pick apart his ideas. If there’s one thing that people see in our band, it’s that the accuracy of our lyrics to our lives is relatable. SS:And how does putting one’s life in music apply for the people in the band who don’t write the lyrics?
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Second Supper:What’s different about Shudder, your new album?
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NG: It comes through in our influences. I got into music because of bands like Bad Religion and Green Day. The things that I learned from those bands are where the inspiration comes from. More so than ever, we’re looking to our past to help influence us this time around. SS: The album’s producer, Dave Schiffman, has worked with musicians as different as Weezer and Johnny Cash. What did he bring out of you during the recordings?
SS: Joining Bayside as you did in 2004, did it feel weird to enter an already established band? Was there a sense of seniority within? NG: There were no seniority issues. There was a decent amount of responsibility given right away which helped me assimilate. When I joined, John [Holohan] also joined, so it was half of a new band. Anthony and Jack [O’Shea] wanted to make it work. There was no room for weirdness. SS: Following John’s death in 2005, how did you, as well as the band as a whole, pick yourself up and continue making music? NG: Jack and Anthony stayed on the tour and played acoustic, which was the right thing to do. I was at home, having broken my back in the accident. It was a tragic thing, but I took it for what it was, a lot of mental and physical anguish, but something to learn from.We decided
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Reviews: your guide to consumption Winter Welcome Ale Samuel Smith Tadcaster, England
Albums Ben Folds — Way to Normal Following the fantastic yet staid piano man album Songs for Silverman with something this experimental is not only an act of courage but one which reaffirms Ben Folds’ longevity. While the back end of this collection does fall back upon tried and true balladry, the road to there is littered with synths, strings and guitar solos. And, of course, Folds lets his potty mouth off the leash. Opening with “Hiroshima,” a live stomping about an onstage concussion, Back to Normal is anything but. One of its standout tracks is “You Don’t Know Me,” a boom-click school play performance where Folds ponders the importance — and reality — of the other person in a relationship. Within, Regina Spektor provides a soft but crucial counterpoint to Folds’ meanderings. “Free Coffee” is a fritzing loop overlying an observation of the absurdity that only rich people get free things. “Effington” cheerfully chronicles a journey to Normal, Illinois, with a pit stop in the Effing town.There’s a perfect marriage throughout this album between lyrics and music; Folds scores big on both ends, emerging with fully-armed brilliance. — Brett Emerson
Monkey — Journey to the West Unfortunately, there’s very little simian misbehavior here. This largely instrumental project from the Gorillaz’s Damon Albarn is worlds away from the cartoonish fare that his fans have come to expect. This is more of a bizarre zoo opera, heavily influenced by Asian orchestra. Many tracks feel like snippets from a Hong Kong epic. Nothing here can be danced to in the usual groove-driven way. The weirdest track on a weird album is “Confessions of a Pig,” which sounds like vomit burps accompanied by happy strings. All of this is a neat expanse to listen to, but won’t find a steady audience beyond hardcore Albarn fans and Anime freaks. Still, it’s a bold digression with a solid return on its investment. — Brett Emerson
I had to put on a cardigan during the course of reviewing this beer. No, Samuel Smith didn’t suddenly invent some cold-brewing technique that puts Coors to shame and sends shivers under my skin. It’s just frickin’ cold outside. There are a couple things I could do to remedy this — better insulate my windows, relocate to the Southern Hemisphere, purchase more cardigans — but the beer-lover always has an additional solution: Drink! Yes, friends, we’re on the cusp of cold-weather beer season, and despite my personal misgivings about the dropping temps, my taste buds couldn’t be happier. October is the time for busting out the dark roasts, the toasty malts, the boozy blends that make it possible to walk anywhere over the next five months. This column will Appearance: 7 soon see a surge in stouts and porters Aroma: 6 and ales dubbed “Winter WarmTaste: 7 ers,” and to kick it all off, I decided to Mouthfeel: 8 treat myself with a most appropriDrinkability: 7 ate of beers: Samuel Smith’s Winter Welcome Ale. Total: 35 In many ways
this is a classic blend, a standard in the Winter Warmer style. Although it’s lighter in color than many winter beers, the head is impressive, a creamy-looking tan that foams richly with the active carbonation. The aroma is a little boozy but nicely balanced in that English way: The hops are floral and the malts are toasty, but neither makes a scene or steps on the other’s toes. That evenhandedness seeps across the tongue at the first sip. Surprisingly, the first taste evokes yellow apples, but the bread-y malts smooth away alcohol flavors, and it finishes with a smartly hopped English crispness. American microbrewers have pushed this style forward with higher gravities and more panache, but few Yankee brands drink as easily as this. Other beer lovers might say the Samuel Smith is dry and watery compared to an American Winter Warmer, and by the middle of March we just might reach a consensus. — Adam Bissen
Cryptic — If a Kiss Could Cure My Disease This is one of those albums whose first note gives away the entire album. In Cryptic’s case, the fulfilled stereotype is Nickelback and Puddle of Mudd-grade, distorto-rhythm and flange-lead metal. The singer pulls the sensitive growler act, yelping and wailing his way into our hearts and pantalones. Really, I want to come up with one thing which separates Cryptic from every other lame metal copycat group out there. I’ve got nothing. The second to last song on the album has more bass than guitar, and the final track features marginally pretty piano and strings, but such songs have been done a thousand times before, and hundreds of those versions are better. For those Puddle of Mudd fans out there — well, just burn their albums, and ignore this one. — Brett Emerson
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voritism of Jeb. This W. attempts gradually, first with an unsuccessful bid for Congress, then as governor of Texas, followed by winning the White House, and finally by finishing the job that Poppy did not: removing Saddam Hussein from power. Stone's depiction of W.'s journey from the frat house to the White House works without any of the predictable Bush-bashing; instead, Stone portrays W. as a tragic figure. For W., conquering Iraq is the final step in emerging from Poppy's shadow, and his goal is realized with the help of an administration set on toppling Saddam for different reasons. As a result of the invasion, he's rewarded the second term his father wasn't, but — unlike his father — mishandles the war and places his own legacy on the line. If it seems like an odd time to release a biopic about George W. Bush, then consider how rarely he's been in the news in the last 16 months. Far from finished, Bush's story and final place in history have yet to be written, and as "W." ends, Stone demonstrates he's well aware of this. But can "W." galvanize Bush into doing something extraordinary in his final months in office? He's been accused of a lot in the last eight years, but "W." proposes that when the economy is healthier and the War in Iraq is finished, the tarnished Bush name will forever remain in the condition he left it. — Nicholas Cabreza
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Directed by: Robert Radler Starring: Eric Roberts, Phillip Rhee, Chris Penn, James Earl Jones Written by: Paul Levine It’s another time in my life when I ask: What Would Chris Penn Do? Apparently, he would put on a cowboy hat and a karate gi, and kick some ass! Penn is a class act as the jumpsuitclad Nice Guy Eddie in Reservoir Dogs and as the repressed homosexual mobster in Corky Romano, but it is here where he really shines as an unrepentant asshole. One needs look no further than the shore leave honky-tonk scene for Penn’s radiance to burn through the screen. The fractious American karate team hits the bar in search of a good time, but only Penn has the audacity to hang outside of the women’s restroom and ask incoming ladies, “Number One or Number Two?” And wouldn’t you know it, Penn winds up slow dancing with a frizzy haired dame! He gropes her ass in front of her man, the bar’s head redneck. When the guy confronts Penn, our cowboy karate champ taunts him into throwing a punch. Penn ducks, and the girlfriend takes the blow. Commence the bar brawl! Who else could have such an
awesome night but Chris Penn? Of course, our hero is not above learning from his mistakes and drawing sage-like wisdom from them. When Penn’s character comes onto the scene, he is a jerk to everyone — except for his roommate, the requisite honky Buddhist, whom he lures to the bar with promises of inner and outer labia. Penn’s ire is especially reserved for the team’s sole Asian member, a haunted man with an obsession with falling ice cream cones. During one contentious gathering, Penn berates the man, asking “What are you, yellow?” Calmly, the man responds, “Obviously,” to which Penn is laughed out of the room. But this is no defeat, for Penn grows to respect his teammates, and they face the Korean juggernauts together. There are many other high points to this film: Eric Roberts crying — a lot — James Earl Jones’ biblical repetition of the word “TEAM” and some pretty good martial arts action. But my heart will always belong to Chris Penn. The only tragedies here are that Penn dies right away in the second film, and that there were two horrible films made after that. The original, however, is perfect. Viva Chris Penn! — Brett Emerson
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Tom Shales & James Andrew Miller — Live from New York (2002) Goddamn. From the moment I pilfered this book from the Joe Gullo Library, I’ve done little but devour its account of the life of Saturday Night Live, only stopping for work and sleep. And this is a monster chronicle, running just shy of 600 pages, featuring commentary from just about everybody involved with the show, including writers, producers, executives and stars. The only living members who don’t show up are the ancillary players from the early '80s and mid '90s, Rob Schneider and Eddie Murphy, who has long since erased the show from his life. Yet the fact that there are so few missing chapters in this account of almost 30 years is astounding. For the fan of Saturday Night Live, this book serves as an invaluable reference, filling in the viewer’s own missing chapters. I came into the show during its late '80s renaissance, when it featured a heavyweight cast including Dana Carvey and Phil Hartman. My knowledge of the original cast has been mainly by proxy of the movies and television they made after leaving the show, masterpieces such as Ghostbusters, Animal House and Problem Child 2. And what little I’ve seen of the early '80s stuff was either lame or run into the ground a la Buckwheat and Billy Crystal. These are the chapters which I tore through. Now I want to see the original five seasons, if for no other reason than that it’s clearly described as the show’s most fucked-up and brilliant era. There’s a lot of SNL's history that is com-
mon knowledge, the big deaths and controversies. It’s to the book’s credit that such overexposed events are treated with the same reverence as the obscure. As such, the discussions of these things become less redundant, as readable as the tales of drugs, sex and office animosities. And this isn’t a fluff history; all of the dirt is left in and all the show’s malcontents get to vent their spleens. Through it all, the book’s story centers upon the show’s creator and producer, Lorne Michaels, who becomes an aloof monolith, the center of gravity for all around him (and even for those who were there during the five years he was gone). It’s telling that the book’s final chapter is devoted solely to Michaels, in which everyone chips in their perspectives, and very few, if any, know the full picture. But one thing is agreed upon — Lorne Michaels is the show, which goes to demonstrate that even a show that’s been around for decades, that’s been through the clouds and the shit, can retain its mystery. Gullo’s not getting his book back. — Brett Emerson
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I'm Jonesin' for a Crossword "So Cute" — if it gets any cuter, I'll get a toothache. By Matt Jones Across 1 Screw up 6 Singer Feliciano 10 Junky stuff 14 Donald Trump's ex 15 Website whose logo's letters are (in order) red, blue, yellow and green 16 Add to the staff 17 Beginning skier's site 19 "Picnic" playwright William 20 They may be sent with smileys 21 Fluid that absorbs fats 22 White-collar criminal of sorts 24 Nickname in the OJ trial 25 Stole 26 "Like a Virgin," for example? 29 "Can you provide more detail?" 33 Speechify 34 "The ___ of the Ancient Mariner" 35 ___ Arena (Sacramento Kings home court) 36 Pretzel ingredient 37 Evil spells 38 "OK, here ___..." 39 Court figure (abbr.) 40 Mardi waters? 41 "sex, lies and videotape" actress MacDowell 42 Late-night homework need 44 Prince Akeem's destination, in "Coming to America" 45 Former "CSI" actor George 46 Play on the green 47 16-time medalist Michael 50 "See ya," in Siena 51 "___ of Days" (Schwarzenegger film) 54 It's for children, in a Pat Benetar song 55 Scrappy Doo's catchphrase 58 Effortlessness 59 Presque ___ Bay 60 Be rude in line 61 "King Kong" actress Fay 62 Social Distortion vocalist Mike 63 Teamed like oxen
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Down 1 Benjamin Netanyahu's nickname 2 It may get fertilized 3 Doesn't burn 4 "The Situation Room" network 5 Seat at a barn dance, maybe 6 Mold-y food? 7 Reedy instrument 8 Sucker 9 Halloween mask necessities 10 Guy who's easily able to attract 11 NHL game locale 12 Provoke 13 Animal with an "Xing" sign 18 Construction area 23 "You've Got Mail" company 24 Nancy Reagan biographer 25 Company that made the first Mickey Mouse clock 26 Words that may follow "too bad" 27 Hoppin' mad 28 Soda shop concoctions 29 Renovate 30 Wear away 31 Block due to cold weather, maybe 32 They can be kinda stuffy 34 Paper bundles 37 Advanced breakdancing move 41 Body check?
43 Word before robe or dance 44 Wharf where ships dock 46 Singing ability, slangily 47 "That was a close one!" noise 48 Catch wind of 49 Fashion designer Schiaparelli 50 Sgts. outrank them in the U.S. Marines 51 Forest Moon of Endor resident 52 Campbell who will return to "Scream 4" in 2010 53 Scott in a historic Supreme Court case 56 Take advantage of 57 "Now I'm onto you!" exclamation
Š2008 Jonesin' Crosswords (editor@jonesincrosswords.com) For answers to this puzzle, call: 1-900226-2800, 99 cents per minute. Must be 18+. Or to bill to your credit card, call: 1-800-655-6548. Reference puzzle #0385.
Answers to Issue 135's "No Theme for You"
October 23, 2008
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GOT SOMETHING TO HAWK? We’re starting a new classifieds section just for you. For $10/wk, you get three lines (25 words) to get rid of that old grill, those sweet rollerblades, promo your Garage Sale, or sell that extra kidney quick! (Just kidding, that’s not legal.)
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ongoing events SOCRATES CAFE
Every Monday Acoustic Cafe Winona, Minn. 8 p.m. Philosophical discussion group
ongoing events YOGA
Every Tuesday Bluffland Bloom & Brew La Crosse approx. 7 p.m. All ages, skill levels welcome Donations gladly accepted FIGURE DRAWING
Every Wednesday Green Bay Street Studio La Crosse greenbaystreetstudio.blogspot.com 6 p.m. - 8 p.m. cost is $5 ($3 for members and students) WINONA AREA PEACEMAKERS VIGIL
Every Thursday Central Park Winona, Minn. 4:30 p.m. POETRY READING
Every Sunday Bluffland Bloom & Brew La Crosse Begins at dusk Open mic reading, come to read or just to watch. Free and open to all ages. COMMUNITY HARVEST
Every Sunday Sobieski Park Winona, Minn. 2 p.m. Free food and talent
upcoming events CREATURE DOUBLE FEATURE MOVIES AT UWL
October 24 The UWL Film Society presents its second annual Halloween "Creature Double Feature" at the university's Graff Main Hall Auditorium starting at 7 p.m. This year's so-bad-they'regood movies are two horror science-fiction cult favorites from the 1950s, INVADERS FROM MARS and IT! THE TERROR FROM BEYOND SPACE. Also included in the show are some "coming attraction" previews of other B-movie horror films and a ten-minute program of classic drive-in movie intermission material between features. Admission is free and open to the public. Email: creeping.bride@gmail.com for more information.
upcoming events BOO-SEUM NON-SCARY HALLOWEEN PARTY FOR KIDS 2 - 8
October 24 Children's Museum of La Crosse 608-784-2562 www.funmuseum.org 5:30-7:30 p.m. Ages 2-8 with an adult. One free adult per paid child. Pre-registration required. ENCHANTED FOREST
October 25 - 26 Hixon Forest, 2702 Quarry Rd La Crosse 608-784-0303 Noon - 3 p.m. Children are invited to trick or treat in costume at Hixon Forest which is filled with costumed storybook and cartoom characters. Reservations Required. $6/children $2/adults $1/seniors. Followed by music with Hans Mayer. PUMPKIN CARVING PARTY
October 26 & 27 Norskedalen Nature and Heritage Center Sunday: noon to 4 p.m. Monday: 2 p.m. - 7 p.m. We'll be hosting a pumpkin carving party for our Ghoulees in the Coulees event. We will have volunteers from UW-L,Viterbo, and many surrounding communities coming out to carve hundreds of pumpkins. These pumpkins will be used to line the half-mile trail for the Ghoulees in the Coulees Haunted Hike. GHOULIES IN THE COULEES HAUNTED HALLOWEEN HIKE
October 29 and 30 Norskedalen Nature and Heritage Center 5:30 to 9 p.m. each night Join us for a ½ mile hike through the woods and cornfields, past hundreds of carved jack-o-lanterns, where you will encounter frightening happenings along the way! Also enjoy treats and cider at the homestead afterwards. There will be many haunted buildings to explore! Hikes until 7 will be less scary for kids and the faint of heart, but hikes after 7 will be SUPER horrifying! Reservations required, please call Norskedalen at (608) 452-3424 If you are reserving after the 15th, it will be $7 per person.
camping GOOSE ISLAND 3 mi. south of La Crosse on Hwy 35 W6488 County Road GI Stoddard, WI 608-788-7018 Open until October 30 VETERANS MEMORIAL 9 mi. east of La Crosse on Hwy 16 N4668 County Road VP West Salem, WI 608 786-4011 Open until October 15 WHISPERING PINES 15 minutes north of La Crosse, on Hwy 53 925 Dana Ln. Holmen, WI 608-526-2152 NESHONOC LAKESIDE CAMP RESORT N5334 Neshonoc Rd. West Salem, WI 608-786-1792 PETTIBONE PARK RESORT 333 Park Plaza Dr. La Crosse, WI 608-782-5858 GREAT RIVER BLUFFS STATE PARK 43605 Kipp Drive Winona, MN 507-643-6849 BEAVER CREEK VALLEY 15954 County 1 Caledonia, MN 507-724-2107 JOHN A. LATSCH PARK From Winona go approximately 12 miles northwest on U.S. Highway 61. (507-643-6849
art exhibits BETWEEN WORLDS BY AMANDA McCONNELL
October 16 - November 8
performances HARVEY
Commonweal Theatre 208 Parkway Avenue North Lanesboro, MN 800-657-7025 www.commonwealtheatre.org Dreams and dreamers figure prominently in this 1940s comedy. Running from May 31-October 25. SOMETHING'S AFOOT
La Crosse Community Theatre October 24-26, 30-November 2, and 6-8 2008 at 7:30 p.m., November 9, 2008 at 2:00 p.m. Musical spoof about the detective genre, based mostly on works by Agatha Christie, involves a group of people invited to the estate of Lord Dudley Rancour. When the host is found dead, all race to discover whodunit. Chaos ensues as one after another the guests are killed. A comical journey with a surprise twist at the end.
farmers' markets CAMERON PARK Every Friday, May - October 4 p.m. - 8 p.m. Downtown La Crosse Fresh produce, pasture-raised buffalo and beef, honey, maple syrup, plants, artists, handmade jewelry, paintings, beeswax candles, live performances and more! BRIDGEVIEW PLAZA Every Wednesday, June - Oct. 8 a.m. - 1 p.m. Bridgeview Plaza parking lot Northside of La Crosse LA CROSSE COUNTY Every Saturday, June - Oct. 6 a.m. - 1 p.m. County parking lot Downtown La Crosse
Pump House (La Crosse) McConnell alludes to the unseen forces of life. Light, color and poetry of form convey the states of being that lead to all creation.
CROSSING MEADOWS Every Sunday, June - Oct. 8 a.m. - 1 p.m. Festival Foods parking lot Onalaska
"THE BACKWATERS OF THE MISSISSIPPI"
WINONA Every Saturday, 7:30 a.m. - noon Every Wednesday, 2 p.m. - 5 p.m. May - October Downtown Winona Fresh produce, plants, eggs, chicken, turkey, beef, elk & buffalo meat, bakery. jams, pickles, honey, decorative gourds, wreaths & Indian corn. Our herbalists bring salves, teas, & catnip.
October 16 - November 8 Sui Conrad combines photogravure manipulation and different intaglio techniques to represent the imagery of the lakes and sloughs of the river. Also includes navigational charts referencing the areas that the imagery was taken from.
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BAYSIDE, cont. Future Sons by Noah Singer within days that we wanted to go on, and day by day we picked up the pieces. It took me five or six months to get back with the guys, and by May of 2006 we were a full band again. SS: There’s a line in “Good Luck Storming the Castle” which goes, “The revolution will be marketed, we’ll all just be pawns in the matter.” As a band that is marketed, how do you preserve the integrity of your work? NG:You have to choose your own involvement.We’re extremely involved. Every aspect of Bayside from the music, merchandise, or anything on the Web goes through us first. Whatever you see, we’re proud of. That’s a big deal if you want to maintain integrity and happiness in a band. SS: How has your large online presence played into that? Does it have any drawbacks? NG: If anything, the online thing has made us into a people’s band. Our MySpace became our Web site, our portal into people’s homes. Without that, we wouldn’t have gotten as far as we have. I can’t really think of any drawbacks, anything bad that’s come of it. Even these days when CDs leak, I don’t think that’s a bad thing anymore. SS: Can the admittedly vague term of punk rock capture the public’s heart as it did in its early years? NG: Not at this point. You could call yourself whatever you want, as long as you’re true to yourself. There’s no point in labeling anything. But that term has gone from the streets to the clubs and the malls and back.You can go to Hot Topic and get a shirt that says, “I’m Punk Rock!” At this point it holds no relevance to anything. Anything that's good in life is eventually going to find its way into corporations that take it for whatever it’s worth. Choose your own involvement with your scene and affect people’s lives the way you want to. The days of the Sex Pistols and Ramones are gone. It’s a completely different age, not worth harping over. SS: And where do you want to go with your own style? NG: We’ve always been a gradually growing band.That’s all we ever wanted to do. We want to have whatever fans we’re gonna have at every show, at every night.We want them to support us so we can keep doing this. We’d gladly go like Bad Religion and be in this band at 45 playing in front of a thousand people. Anything other than that is icing on the cake.
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COMMUNITY SERVICE [ Area food & drink specials ] LA CROSSE All Star Lanes 4735 4735 Mormon Mormon Coulee Coulee
Alpine AlumniInn W5715 Bliss st. rd. 620 Gillette
Alumni Beef & Etc.
620 st. st. 1203Gillette La Crosse
Barrel Inn 2005 2005 West West ave. ave.
Beef & Etc. Brothers
Sunday
Monday
33 games games for for $5 $5 starts at 8 starts at 8 p.m. p.m.
33 games games for for $5 $5 starts at 8 starts at 8 p.m. p.m.
115 3rd st. st. 620 SCass
CheapShots Chuck’s 318 Pearl st. 1101 La Crosse st.
Chuck’s Joe’s Coconut 1101Pearl La Crosse st. 223 st.
5-8 p.m. BBQ coun6 - CL try style ribs $5, $2.50 Sparks euchre tourney 7:30
11 a.m. - 9 p.m. AUCE Wings $5, Bingo $2 Silos BOGO $1 cherry bombs
5-83-7 p.m. fishhappy dinnerhour $5.25
2-8 p.m. AUCE wings $5
grilled chicken sand$5 wichbbq meal:ribs $5.29and fries Polish sausage meal:
hamburger AUCE wings or $5.00 cheeseburger free crazy bingomeal: $3.89 buy one cherry bomb Italian Beef w/dog get one$7.89 for $1 meal:
pepper & egg sandwich batterfried cod, fries, meal: $5.00 beans, and garlic bread Italian sausage meal: $5.50 $6.69
Italian beef meal: $6.69 2 Chicago dog meal: $5.89
bucket night Bucket Night 6 beers for $9 6 for $9
Packer games closed
free pitcher of beer $1 off apps or soda with large Happy Hour All pizza
Day
12 - 7: 2-4-1 rails $2.50 beers
318 417 Pearl Jay st.st.
11 a.m. - 9 p.m. hard or soft shell tacos $1
Buckbarrel Burgers 1/4 1/4giveaway Barrel giveaway during Monday night 8-11 $1 burgers football
The Cavalier Chances R 114 5th ave. CheapShots Chapter II
Cosmic Cosmic Bowl Bowl starts starts at at 99 p.m. p.m.
Italian beef meal: $1 softshell tacos $6.69 $1 shots of doctor, Chicagodoctor chili dog: cherry $3.89
closed
417 Jay st.
Cosmic Cosmic Bowl Bowl & & Karaoke starts Karaoke starts at at 99 p.m. p.m.
16oz top sirloin $7 22oz tbone meatball sandwich 9.75 sutffed sirloin 8 meal: $6.69 jack daniels tips 8 $1 shots of Doctor, cherry doctor 2 Chicago dogs- 8-cl meal: Happy hour 4-6 $1.75 cans, $2 $5.89 mix drinks
Brothers The Cavalier 306 st. 114 Pearl 5th ave.
Import Import night night starts starts at at 77 p.m. p.m.
Italian beef w/dog Beer Pong $7.00 meal: $6.69 4 Cans 8-close Pizza Puff meal: $4.49
2 for 1 cans 2 for 1 bottles and&cans during the game bottles during 2.25 for mini pitcher
meatball sandwich $2.50 meal:Blatz $6.15 vs. Old Style 2 dogs meal: $ 5.25 pitchers meat or marinara Kids Eat Free With spaghetti: $3.45 Adult Italian sausage: $4.95 $3.00 Long Islands
7- CL: Margarita Monday Martini Madness $2 off $2.50 all martinis (rocks only)
7 everyday - CL Happy Hour 6 a.m. - 12 p.m.
7 - CL $1 $1 domestic shots Polish12& oz Dr. $2onStoli mixers Packer TDs 7 - CL
$3.00 Domestic Pitchers, $1 domestic 12 oz $2.00 Shots of Cuervo, $2 StoliGoldschlager mixers Rumpleminz,
closed $3 Pitchers 1.75 Rails
$4.49
3 p.m. - midnight 25 cent cent wings 25 hot Dollar wings shots of Doctor $1 shots of Dr.
$6.00
AUCD Taps and Rails AUCD 8-1 $6
hamburger meal: p.m. 1/2chicken off anything Italian beef meal: 3 - 8 grilled sand-that pours $1.50 U-Call-Its $3.69 10 cent wings (9 - CL) $6.15 wich meal: $5.29 $1.25sausage High Life bottles Fantasy Football Stat Wristband Night cheeseburger meal: Chicago chili dog: Polish meal: $1.50 rail mixers party! $3.89 $3.45 $3.99 $1.25 make your own Mexi-Night - $1 tacos, $4.75 taco salad Soft Shell Tacos $2.25 margaritas, $2 off$2.50 large Margaritas taco pizza
$2.25 burgers, $2.60 cheeseburgers, $2 off 2-4-1 Burgers large fries Kulpizza, Light $1 Pitchers with any$3.00 pizza
soup or salad bar FREE with entree or Rib Nite sandwich 3 p.m. Beer Ponguntil @10 p.m. ($3.95 by itself)
6 - 8 p.m. Thirsty $1.50 rails/domestics Tuesday
10 cent wings 6- 8 (9 - CL) $1 High Life bottles $1.50 taps $1.50 rail mixers $2 Guinness pints
All Mojitos $5
HAPPY HOUR 3 PM - 8 PM
Martini$2.50 Ladies' Night James Martini: vodka, Blatz vs. Old Styletriple sec,pitchers orange juice
Tequila’s chips & salsa, $1.25 domestics $2 Coronas, $2.50 $3 pitchers Mike’s, Mike-arita
HAPPY HOUR 4 3- CL: 7- CL: 2 Beers,closed 1 topping pizza Ladies' $1 Dr. Night shots $11 $1.25 beersBombs & rails $3 Jager 7 - midnight Ladies: for 1 Men's2Night $1 Polish/Dr. shots Guys: $1.50 Coors domestics and$1.50 Kul Light bottles
Wristband Night
-7
$1 shots Polish & Dr.
football $1 night domestic Kul beer: Light $1.50 Mexicancans beer: $2.00
chicken Topless primavera Tuesday
FiestaHollow Mexicana Fox 5200 Mormon Coulee
chicken & veggie fajitasown Build your for Mary two Bloody 16oz Mug - $4.00
football night domestic beer:Pizza $1.50 Homemade Mexican beer: $2.00 & PItcher of Beer
HAPPY HOURshrimp EVERYDAY 3 - 6 chili chicken burrito verde primavera $1.25 Bucket of Domestic 25 Cent Wings BURGERS Cans 5 for $9.00
Build your own Bloody Mary 16oz Mug - $4.00
Homemade Pizza & PItcher of Beer $9.00 $5.99 $5.99 gyro gyro fries fries & & soda soda
N3287 County rd. OA 1904 Campbell
Gracie’s Gracie’s 1908 Campbell rd.
1908 Campbell rd.
Huck Finn’s Howie's
127 dr. st. 1128Marina La Crosse
9-clNBC Mary night. (Night Bloody Before Class) $3 pitchspecials ers of the beast - 2 4-9 p.m. Happy10 Hour
Football Sunday $1.75 domestic JB’s Speakeasy 11-7 happy hour, free The Helm bottles 717 Rose st. food, $1.50 bloody, 1/2
108 3rd st price pitchers DTB Second Supper vol. 8, issue 137
shrimp dinner $3.00 Captain mixers/ Great drinks! mojitos $2 Cherry Bombs $1 Bazooka Joes 5010 cent- taps CL:4 - 7 (increases 50 cents per $1.50 rails hour) $1 rails
Live DJ calling random dollar shots
$3.00 Bacardi mixers/ Great drinks! mojitos $2 Cherry Bombs $1 Bazooka Joes
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Happy Hour 12 - 7 cents off most items
Live DJ calling random dollar shots
$2.00 Malibu, $2.50 Jaeger, $3.00 Jaeger Bombs
WING NIGHT-$1.25/LB $2 Tuesdays, including Wristband All day Everyday: $1 Doctor $2 Silos. M-F: Happy HourBBQ, 2-6PLAIN $.50 off everything but the daily special$2.50 JUMBO CAPTAIN AND BUFFALO, SMOKEY $2 bottles, import taps, $1.00 PABST AND PABST LIGHT all day buy 1 get one DoNight After Class $3 Ladies' Nite out 1.50 Raill $.50 pong, taps Domestic 3.00 BOTTLES$1.50 ROCK Coming ROLLING Soon: Ring beer apps, single FLAVORED BACARDI MIXERS Guys'closed Nite out 1.50 silos mestic beer Holmen Meat $5 COLLEGE I.D. Pitchers $1.75 Rails BOTTLES mixers/ $2.50 X bombs pitchers Locker Jerky Raffle shot mixers, featured Toss $2.25 BUD LIGHTS $1.00 SHOT $3.00 JAGER BOMBS $9 general public shots, and 50 cent taps OF THENIGHT-$1.25/LB WEEK WING $2 Tuesdays, including Wristband BUFFALO, SMOKEY BBQ, PLAIN $1 Ladies Night $2 bottles, import taps, $1.00 PABST AND PABST LIGHT Topless $2.50 JUMBO CAPTAIN AND Karaoke live DJ Night buy one, get one free Kul Light Karaoke BOTTLES$1.50 ROLLING ROCK closed beer pong, apps, single Tuesday $1 shot specials $1 shot specials $5 COLLEGE I.D. FLAVORED BACARDI MIXERS BOTTLES wear a bikini, drink free shot mixers, featured cans $2.25 BUD LIGHTS $1.00 SHOT $9 general public $3.00 JAGER BOMBS shots, and 50 cent taps OF THE WEEK
chicken$4 & veggie full fajitas pint Irish for Bomb two Car
Fox Hollow Goal Post
$1.50 bloody marys $3 bloodys 11 a.m. - 4 p.m 'til noon
Fish Fry $6.75
7 -$1.00 midnight 7 - midnight 7 - CL All day, everyday: Shots of Doctor, $2.00 Cherry Bombs, $1.75 Silos of Busch Light/Coors 7 - midnight Happy Hour domestic2taps, for$11 $2 Malibu Tequila’s chips & salsa, $.50 Ladies: $2.00 Cruzan madness Rum Mixers, $1 rail mixers Mexican Monday 12 - 7 microbrews, $3 domestic $2.50$2 Jameson Shots, $3.00 $2.00 Captain Mixers $2.00 Corona, $3.00 Patron Shots Guys: $1.50 Coors pineapple $2 Coronas, $2.50 $2 Bacardi mixers pitchers, $6 microbrew Mixers Corona Light, Cuervo and Kul Light bottles upsidedown cake Mike’s, Mike-arita pitchers
Fiesta Dan’s Mexicana Place
N3287 County OA
barrel parties at cost pepper & egg sandwich Italian beef meal: meal: $4.50, fish $6.15 $3 Three Olives mixers/ mojitos $3 Three Olives mixers/ mojitos sandwich $2 Cherry meal: bombs $4.99, $2 bombsdog meal: 2 Cherry Chicago $1 Bazooka Joes meal: $1 Bazooka Joes Italian sausage $3.45 $6.15
7random - midnight cheap shots during karaoke, $2 Malibu madness Ladies' Night $1.50 domestics $2 pineapple $1 shots Polish & Dr. $2 Cherry bombs upsidedown cake
7 - midnight random cheap shots $1 rail mixers during karaoke, $2 Bacardi mixers pudding shots,
$4 full pint Irish closed Car Bomb
5200 Mormon Coulee 411 3rd st.
$4.50
$4.50 domestic pitchers pitchers Pitcher and Pizza $10 domestic
7- CL: Guys' Night 2 for 1 $1.25 taps beers & rails
Coconut Joe’s Dan’s Place 223 3rd Pearlst.st. 411
Saturday
33 games games for for $5 $5 starts at 7 starts at 7 p.m. p.m.
5-8 p.m. 16oz Sirloin $7, Blue Cheese Stuffed Sirloin $8, Jack Daniels Tips $8, 22oz T Bone $9.75, $1 shots doc and cherry doc 8 p.m. - close
Bud Night 6 - CL: $1.75 bottles $5 pitchers
Friday
Buck Buck Night Night starts starts at at 66 p.m. p.m.
$7 four cans special 8 bucket p.m. - close beer pong
1203 La Crosse st. 306 Pearl st.
Big Al’s Bruisers
Tuesday Wednesday Thursday
$9.00
9-cl$3.50 Domestic pitchers $1.75 domestic bottles
shrimp Ladies Night buy one, get one free burrito wear a bikini, drink free
chili Karaoke verde $1 shot specials
Asklive server DJ for details $1 shot specials Ask server for details
HAPPY HOUR EVERYDAY 3 - 6
HAPPY HOUR 6 AM - 9 AM
$1.25 beer pong 6 p.m. $8.95 16 oz steak BURGERS
free wings 6 p.m. - 9 p.m.
Bucket of Domestic Cans 5 for $9.00
25 CentHOUR Wings HAPPY
Buy Buy one one gyro gyro get get one one half half price price
free free baklava, baklava, ice ice cream cream or or sundae sundae with with meal meal
$1.25 $1.25 domestic domestic taps taps buy buy one one burger burger get get one one half half price price
HAPPY HOUR 9-cl- $1 rails, $2.50 pitchers, Beer Pong All day (everyday!) $1.75 domesticspecials $1.25 Old Style Light bottles $1.50 LAX Lager/Light $1 shots of Dr.
$5 AUCD
HAPPY HOUR 3 - 8 $8.95 16 oz. steak $8.95 1/2 lb. fish platter
5 p.m. - 10 p.m.
EVERYDAY 3 -7 9-cl and$1.25 9 - 11 rails, $1.75 bottles/cans
Karaoke
GREEK GREEK ALL ALL DAY DAY buy buy one one appetizer appetizer appetizer half price appetizer half price get one half price get one half price with meal with meal 9-cl -$2 captain mixers, $2 bottles/cans, $3 jager bombs
9-cl $2 bacardi mixers, $2 domestic pints, $1.50 shots blackberry brandy
HAPPY HOUR2-CL 5-7 Thirsty Thursday 3 12 oz. dom. taps $2 $1 vodka drinks $1 12 oz taps
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Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday & drink specials ] COMMUNITY SERVICE [ Area food
LA CROSSE Jai's Bar 168 Rose st.
JB’s Speakeasy 717 Rose st.
The Joint 324 Jay st.
Legend’s
Happy Hour 11 a.m. - 7 p.m. everyday. $1.50 rails & domestics
$3 bloodys $1 priced-to-move bottles
$1.75 domestic bottles
$1.75 domestic bottles
1/2 off Pearl Street pitchers during Packer game
4 - 8 p.m. Bacardi $3 doubles/pints
closed
223 Pearl st.
The Library 123 3rd st.
$2 Guinness all day
come in and find out ... you’ll be glad you did
closed closed
Ladies' night 7-CL buy one, get one rails and dom. bottles
$1.75 domestic bottles
$2 Boddington's English Pub Ale ALL DAY
50 cents off all drinks 7-CL
$1.00 off all Irish shots $2.50 pints of Guinness $3.00 imperial pints
every day $1 shots of Doc
$1 taps $1 rails 1/2 price Tequila
All your fav drinks at low prices
HAPPY HOUR 5 - 7
4 - 8 p.m. domestic bottles/rails $1.75
closed
$2 Irish Car Bombs (go out the Irish way) 7-CL
4 - 8 p.m. domestic bottles/rails $1.75
WING NIGHT $2 SVEDKA MIXERS $2.50 JACK MIXERS $2.25 BUD LIGHTS $2 SHOTS OF ALL DOCTOR FLAVORS
AFTER COMEDY: PINT NIGHT $1 PINTS OF RAILS MIXERS AND DOMESTIC TAPS $2 PINTS OF CALL MIXERS AND IMPORT TAPS $3 PINTS OF TOP SHELF MIXERS
KARAOKE $2 double rails, $3 double calls, $2 ALL bottles
Wristband Night and Beer Pong Tourney
5 - 7 p.m. 2-4-1 happy hour
great drinks!
$2 SHOTS OF GOLDSCHLAGER $5 DOUBLE VODKA ENERGY DRINK $3 Bacardi mixers $3 jumbo Long Islands
$3 Three Olives mixers $3 jumbo Long Islands
HAPPY HOUR 3 - 6
Nutbush
3264 George st.
Players
Price by Dice
214 Main St
Ralph's
In John's Bar 109 3rd st. N
Ringside 223 Pearl st.
Schmidty’s
Chef specials daily Mighty Meatball sub $6
open 11 - 6
3119 State rd.
breakfast buffet $9.95 10 a.m. - 2 p.m.
Shooter’s
$1 Shot Night
120 S 3rd st.
Sports Nut 801 Rose st.
Tailgators 1019 S 10th st.
Top Shots 137 S 4th st.
Yesterdays 317 Pearl st.
LA CRESCENT
Crescent Inn 444 Chestnut st.
WINONA Brothers 129 W 3rd st.
Godfather’s 30 Walnut st. 21
2 for 1 Happy Hour ALL NIGHT LONG
happy hour all day
open 4-9
Karaoke @ 10 p.m. 2-4-1 Happy Hour 5 - 10 AUCD Rail mixers @ 10 p.m.
Karaoke @ 10 p.m. 2-4-1 Happy Hour 5 - 10 $1 Pabst cans, Dr. shots @ 10 p.m.
chicken parmesan sub $6
Italian sandwich w/banana peppers and parmesan &6
open 11 - 6
double $6.50
2-4-1 Happy Hour 3 - 9 Best Damned DJ'S @ 10 p.m.
2-4-1 Happy Hour 3 - 8 Best Damned DJ'S @ 10 p.m.
Chicken salad on rye w/ lettuce, tomato, onion $5 $6.99 FISH SANDWICH FOR LUNCH, $7.99 FISH SANDWICH FOR DINNER, $9.99 ALL YOU CAN EAT FISH FRY ALL DAY
happy hour all day long! $1.00 OFF WILD WINGS, $1.00 PHILLY STEAK AND CHEESE.
LUNCH BUFFET $6.45 LUNCH SPECIALS CHANGE DAILY Ask Nicely See What Happens
Tie Tuesday Great Prices For Sharp Dressers
Buck Burgers
Tacos $1.25
$4 domestic pitchers
$1 Rails, $1.50 Pint Taps, $3 Long Island Pints 15 cent wings
$2.50 Bacardi Mixers, $3 Long Island Pints 12 oz. T-Bone $8.99
HAPPY HOUR 10 AM - 12, 4 PM - 6 PM $2 Bacardi mixers
$2 Spotted Cow & DT Brown pints
$1.50 Bud/Miller Lite/ PBR taps all day $1.75 rails 10 - 1
$2 domestic bottles 7 - 12, $2.50 Skyy/ Absolute mixers 10-1 $2 Dr. drinks
$1 Point special bottles
$2.50 pints Bass & Guinness
$1.75 domestic bottles
$2.25 Pearl st. pints $1.50 PBR bottles
Sunday
Monday
Tuesday Wednesday
$2 Rolling Rocks $2 domestic beer
8 - CL $1.50 rails $1.75 Bud cans
$1 shots of Dr. $2.50 Polish
Sunday
Monday
Tuesday Wednesday
closed
Southwest chicken pita $5
HAPPY HOUR 4 PM - 7 PM cheeseburger HOOP DAY!! MAKE YOUR SHOT AND YOUR ENTRÉE IS FREE!
$1.75 light taps and Dr. shots
Fiesta Night 7 - 12 $2 tequila shots $2.50 margaritas
2-4-1 Happy Hour 5 - 10 $2 Capt. mixers $1.75 domestic beer, $1.50 Rails, $1 Pabst cans @ 10 p.m.
$1 domestic taps $3 Jager Bombs
Bucket Night 5 for $9 5 domestic bottles for $10, $2 Bacardi mixers, $1.50 rail vodka mixers 10 -1
2 for 1 anything 9 p.m. - close Fantasy Football stat party!
family buffet 5 -8 kids under 10 pay .45 cents per year of age
any jumbo, large, or large 1 topping pizza medium pizza up to 5 $9.99 toppings: $11.99 (get 2nd large for $5)
10 cent wings, $3 filled mug ($1 tap refills, $2 rail refills) $1 High Life bottles/kamikaze shots
15 cent wings
$1 Dr. shots $3 16 oz Captain mixers
$2 Long Islands, PBR bottles, Captain mixers
$1 Dr. shots $3 16 oz Captain mixers
$2.75 deluxe Bloodys ‘til 7, $5 lite pitchers 7 - 12
$1.75 rails $1 PBR mugs
Thursday
Friday
Saturday $2.50 Captain $2.50 Jager Bombs & Polish
$2 u-call-it (except top shelf)
Thursday
3 - 8pm 1.00 off anything that Pours
$1 martinis $2 mojitos $3 margaritas & Michelob Golden pitchers
Fish Fry $6.95
$2.50 Bacardi Mixers, $3 Long Island Pints
$1 O-Bombs/ Bazooka Joes, Wristband Night
Friday
Saturday
$2.50 Three Olives Vodkas $2 Cherry & Jäger Bombs
$2.50 Bacardi Drinks $2 Cherry & Jäger Bombs
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Entertainment Directory 10/23 - 10/29
Thursday, October 23
Sunday, October 26
Kreekside Adam Palm
7:00
Popcorn Tavern The New Blend
Bluffland All ages Open Mic
8:00
Ringside Comedy Night
8:00
Dan’s Place Live DJ
The Recovery Room Live DJ Nutbush Live DJ Popcorn Tavern Nick Shattuck
9:00 9:00 10:00 10:00
Friday, October 24 Player’s Live DJ
Just A Roadie Away... 10:00
Monday, October 27
Minneapolis population
George St. Pub Adam Palm’s Open Jam
387,970
9:00 Pieta Brown
Cedar Cultural Center
Thurs., 10/23
Amy Ray Arizona
Fine Line Music Cafe
Fri., 10/24
The Autumn Offering Mushroomhead
The Rock
Sat., 10/25
10:00
Heatbox
Cabooze
Sat., 10/25
Popcorn Tavern Paulie
10:00
Redman Method Man Termanology
First Avenue
Mon., 10/27
Alumni Brownie's Open Jam
10:00
Popcorn Tavern Shawn's open jam w/ Up & Coming
10:00
Tuesday, October 28 Nutbush Live DJ
10:00 Wednesday, October 29
Nutbush Live DJ
10:00
Loon’s Comedy Night
8:30
Library Karaoke
9:00
JB's Speakeasy Casanatra with Porcupine and Company Inc. 10:00
Nighthawks Irene Keenan Jr.
9:00
Saturday, October 25
Coconut’s Live DJ
10:00
Longhorn Karaoke
10:00
Popcorn Tavern The Histronic
Bluffland TBA local musician
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10:00
10-midnight
Players Live DJ
10:00
Player’s Karaoke
10:00
Nutbush Live DJ
10:00
Popcorn Tavern Brownie's Open Jam
10:00
Nighthawks Cheech's Super Deece Band 10:00 JB'S Speakeasy Droids Attack with Thundersnake and A Droid Costume Contest $100 to 1st place 10:00 Second Supper vol. 8, issue 137
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