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A list of crappy names. Don't worry, we explain.
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Can a list be a duck? Can a butterfly be an elephant? Fun with words! page 8 Is texting killing English?
Drink Specials During Packer And Badger Games
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Friday Pettibone Style Fish Fry
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English slang throughout the years ...from Hepcat to Hacker.
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Horrific examples of job application postings (yet excellent examples of schadenfreude!) page 11 More dispatches from HQ! And this time, we're grateful.
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How a history major fares as an English teacher in South Korea.
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STS9's biggest fan interviews... STS9!
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November 20, 2008
Social Networking
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Second Supper’s finally on the social networking bandwagon, with a whole chain of townies to answer our deliciously revealing questions. Each week, the interviewee will name someone they're connected to, who will become the next person interviewed, and so it shall continue.You see? We really are all connected.
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Coolest hunting
NAME: Libby Weber, 27 BIRTHPLACE: La Crosse, Wis. CURRENT JOB: Operating partner at the Waterfront Restaurant and Bar DREAM JOB: Anything I can be my own boss at COVETED SUPERPOWER: Getting my way DREAM VACATION: Greek Island w/ no cell service FAVORITE LOCAL RESTAURANT: Waterfront, duh FAVORITE BAR IN TOWN: duh 3 MOVIES YOU’D TAKE ON A DESERTED ISLAND: Tommy Boy, Breakfast at Tiffany's, Home Video of me bungee jumping CITY OR COUNTRY? City
3 BOOKS YOU’D TAKE TO PRISON: Setting the Table by Danny Meyer; Strengthsfinder 2.0 by Tom Rath; Still Kicking by Katie Hnida (she's a personal friend of mine, and I'm in the book)
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Do this What: Live Hip Hop Where: JB's Speakeasy When: Saturday, November 29 at 10 p.m. Though the death of The Joint's infamous Wu-Tang Wednesday still tugs at our hearts here at HQ, there's luckily another venue in town who's stepped up to satisfy the hip-hopper in all of us: JB's! This show will feature local favorite — and Wu-Tang Wednesday spawn — Northern Lightz, as well as local up-and-coming Black Ice (don't miss Daisy...kid knows how to steal a show). As always, there will be some special guests, including Project F.O.M. w/ 6-9, who killed it last time we saw him at JB's. There you have it. What to do on a Saturday night besides hit on drunk barbies downtown? Hit up four and a half hours of crisp midwest hip hop to rock your soul for a meer $3. Sorry kiddies, the show is 21+.
Letter from the Editor There was once an extended period in my life when I would read the Associated Press Stylebook for amusement. If you’re not familiar with the work — and I hope to Jah you’re not — the A.P. Stylebook is basically the grammar Bible for journalists. It mandates when commas are needed, how states are abbreviated, when to use an em dash, and how to format a Web site. (It also mandates a spelling of “Web” space “site,” with a capital “W” in deference to the anachronistic World Wide Web, so you can imagine why a nerd like me would love a book like that.) I got plenty of funny looks when people would walk into my dorm room and ask what I’m reading, and the dog-eared copy in the bathroom may have scared away more than a few return guests. But for an aspiring man of words, an entire tome dedicated to verbiage is as compelling as any gourmet’s spice drawer or any cinephile’s Netflix queue. To see the sorts of joys contained in the A.P. Stylebook, let’s flip to a random page. Oh, look, there at the top of page 96, it’s the preferred spelling of “fjord.” Hmm, “flautist” is a cool word, but unfortunately those space-conscious newspapermen have a preference for “flutist.” Too bad. At least I now know the difference between flaunt and flout, the punctuation in flip-flop and that the past tense of flimflam is flimflammed. Having fun yet? I can imagine a few readers’ eyes glazing over right now, just like my friends’ did when I told them tales of A.P. style and then pitched the theme for this issue. But English — despite all its faults and all the pronouncements for how Important it is — is actually a pretty sweet language. The Oxford English Dictionary has something like 600,000 entries, and one linguist estimates that a new English word is coined once every 98 minutes. Few languages in the world have even half the words we do, so piecing together the exact perfect phrase is something of a birthright for those blessed with our mother tongue. So please take a merry walk with me through Second Supper Issue 141. Our writers have always been a smidge wordy and a bit nerdy, so this should be a mighty rich document indeed. Briana Rupel, our copy editor and, thankfully, one of the biggest grammar adherents I know, writes a piece on the wonders of English and the good teachers dedicated to save it. Shuggypop Jackson, one of the most cynical guys I know, shows how language can fail a man, and Kelly Sampson, one of the most free-sprited women I know, shows how it can be fun. Finally, my grade school chum Nate Willer shows how speaking English can take a man around the world. So grab your dictionaries and your thesauri — approved spelling; I looked it up — and get ready for this rip-roaring romp through language.And if you thought you couldn’t handle any more excitement, check it: Beginning this issue, Second Supper will adhere to new grammar rules not suggested by the A.P. Stylebook. We’re not a space-conscious newspaper after all; we’re a weekly press with literary aspirations. So say goodbye to enumerated digits greater than nine, and let’s welcome commas before the word “and” in a list of three or more items and the complete spelling of state names! Praise be this living language. — Adam Bissen
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I am in love with a fox I just met! I don’t often drop the L-word so this is kind of a big deal for me.This feeling I have is like the stuff you see in chick flicks; I don’t even know how I survived before it. Mozilla Firefox 3.0 is the love of my life! I'm sure this statement is a letdown for those of you wishing to peek inside my actual love life for once, but rest assured this basically is my love life. Plus, what kind of column do you think this is?! Sex and the City? I wish… Foxy (what I’ve come to affectionately call him) makes me smile the way no man has and, I’m starting to think, ever will. And he showed up just in time; he’s basically my modern day Prince Charming. He also totally saved my relationship with Tiffany; don’t worry, Tiffany is the name of my laptop. See Tiffany and I have had a long, loving relationship. She came in a box the summer before my freshman year at UW-L, and from the moment I took her out and turned her on (get your mind out of the gutter) we’ve basically been soul mates. But lately, she’s been having some problems. She’s slowing down a little bit and acting up now and then; I push “don’t send error report” more than I blink in a day. It’s just frustrating because I keep remembering the Dell she used to be. It got to the point this week where I thought we either had to go to couples therapy or I was going to have to throw her out the window. It’s hard to admit, but it’s true. See every time I opened up Internet Explorer this weird thing started popping up. It was this shady “antivirus” thing that looked like a virus itself. I would close out of it but then it would open up about five different error messages telling me that my computer, excuse me,Tiffany was at risk. It pissed me off but also ultimately concerned me.Was I going to spend the rest of
my life closing error boxes? I was determined not to become a slave to technology so I tried to figure out the problem. I asked my father if he had any advice but that turned out to be a horrible idea; never ask V-dawg anything about technology because the man is still impressed that television is in color now. I txted my brother but he was really of no help and he started asking me too many distracting questions like, “What does ttyl mean?” and “How do you use T9Word?” What do I look like, Chad from Alltel? I was sitting in class today, essentially depressed because of my technology woes, and it hit me because of one dumb thing my professor said. She was trying to pull something up on YouTube very unsuccessfully; I use the word “unsuccessfully” because like V-dawg, she was basically born when people still had to use candles for light. She was confused by the play/pause button on YouTube when she mumbled something about “You know, they say Mozilla is MUCH better than Internet Explorer. More secure I guess.” How do you spell eureka?! On one hand, I was embarrassed because my technologically slow professor had pointed out the obvious to me but, on the other hand, I was so excited to try it. And oh, did it work! I know I just downloaded Foxy not even a day ago, but it has changed my life! No more creepy antivirus windows popping up and — let me tell you — it has been sweet. And did you know that you can customize the look of your Foxy Web browser? Yeah, I chose the MidnightFox by TwisterMc; it’s black with fun colored buttons for back, refresh, home, etc. It’s like Tiff got a facelift! Once I got Foxy, I felt like I could improve on other things as well. I did some simple Google searching and found this cool Web site with free wallpapers designed by graphic artists (desktopography in case you’re interested). Now I have a very Zen background and I feel at peace with nature when I open Tiffany up. It may be gray and rainy outside, but it always looks like a serene meadow in my room now. Tiffany is just sitting in my lap right now, quietly humming, and it feels like freshman year again. Granted, I don’t have to share my room or a bathroom with dozens of other girls, but Tiffany is like a new computer again. And I owe it all to Mozilla Firefox 3.0. With faux antivirus issues off my mind, I have so much more time to devote to much more important things. For instance, the Minnesota Wild is actually being broadcasted in the greater La Crosse area right now, which is a freaking miracle. So I shall sit here for the next three hours or so and watch the Wild beat the Coyotes (fingers crossed) all the while looking up player stats online. Ah yes, laptops were created for this very reason, and Foxy has allowed Tiffany to be able to do it again. Life is wonderful.
Noms de Crap By Brett Emerson
brett.emerson@secondsupper.com It came about during one of my first adventures with alcohol, eight years ago in a shanty house I shared with hippies, a Leprechaun, and a Buttlord. Youth had made me adventurous, and I finished our housewarming party sprawled in the darkened living room, sucking down tequila. Yuck. As I splayed in the void, a thought came to me. It was utterly random. What kind of a name is Ross? I sat up straight, struck by the asinine truth of my brain’s question. Ross was a crap name! It evoked images of weird suburban types, flailing around while wearing horrid baseball caps that read “Grateful Dad.” Unfortunately, Ross is the least of our concerns. The new rash of trendy baby names, accompanied by a mess of baby books featuring glassy eyed freak babies on their covers, is only exacerbating the problem. While the usual Johns, Jennys, Nicks, and Nicoles don’t need to be the only names for kids, the tendency to give kids vacuous and overly novel names leads to disaster. It’s hard to verify the truth of urban legend names like Shithead (pronounced Shi-theed) or Abcde (pronounced Ab-sid-ee), but it’s not hard to imagine that at least one person in our fine republic would be dumb enough to give a child one of these names. So in the tradition of horoscopic name books, I offer a list of names to avoid. Included are descriptions of the name’s stereotypical bearers. Try not to be offended. Blake: Blakes tend to be scions of prominent Southern California lawyers, and they spend their days doing ecstasy on oceanside beaches. Their dads have repeatedly bailed them out of legal trouble. While his freestyle skills may be tops, a Blake’s future points to work within reality television. Hayley: This name was moderately tolerable before Eminem jumped the stage and inspired a generation of poor honkeys to misname their cracker spawn.Today’s Hayley will grow up into trailer park glory, burn out like moths, and fire out children at a record release rate. On the plus side, Hayleys know all the lyrics to “Forgot about Dre.” Ian: It’s John, right? Ians are the sons of Anglophiles and Gaelic Stormchasers who aren’t quite normal, but aren’t quite ready to be weird. They play at being exotic and eccentric, but usually end up pissing and vomiting on themselves. Close, but not quite. Madison: If Madison is a person’s first name, he or she works in porn. That’s it. I don’t care if it’s male or female. That person’s tramphood has been filmed and uploaded. In the case of Madison as a last name, that person’s first name better be James, and he had better have written
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a Constitution, or else we’re still in trouble. Patrick: Patricks are either coked-out scumbags, or have encephalitis. Take your pick. Tanya: You’d like to envision Tanyas as exotic, limber gymnasts, but the truth is that most Tanyas have stringy, feathered, bleached hair covering their Mimiesque blue eyeshadow. Usually, they can’t even touch their toes. A blind date with a Tanya plays out in the mind as something from an Iron Curtain Bond film. In reality, it’s more like a fling with a flirtatious poodle with worms. Lance: Do I even have to explain how much Lance sucks as a name? Why not cut out the ambiguity and be named Cock, or Boner? Many Lances sport snappy flat tops, aging muscles, and venereal sores from years of truck stop misadventures. The Ultimate Warrior is Lance’s favorite pro wrestler. Hangs out with dudes named Dirk. Sid: For a guy, Sid is an awesome name. If given to a girl, see Madison. Dallas: See Sid. Any girl named after a precious stone: Stripper. Jeremy: Most Jeremys are dyslexic and live in squalor. In the event of a Jeremy rising above its station to some meager managerial post, the Jeremy will likely knock up one of its underage subordinates, then fire the poor girl for fraternization.
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Any girl whose name begins with K: This is a blanket generalization, I know, but I can’t think of a decent girl’s name that begins with the letter K. Kim, Kathy, Kayla, Karla, Krypto, whatever. Kate is the only exception, and even that one leads to awful nicknames. K Girls tend to have their wedding dress picked out at age nine, and have been through that dress twice by age 29. When the K name ends with a super-cute I, the disease goes airborne. Cheech: I’d say that this name only gains credibility when paired with a friend named Chong, but that’s hardly narrowing down the problem. So I’ll be specific. Unless a Cheech has starred in a bad television show with Don Johnson or a movie with Pee-Wee Herman, he’s likely to inhabit black light basement parties, chatting to kids half his age about his greatest hits.The kids, unfortunately, will be impressed. Brett: Brett is the male subordinate of the name Brittany, which denotes a region in France. Consequently, Bretts are little more than malformed girls. And that’s not a far jump away from Britney; therefore, anyone named Brett is likely to wear skimpy schoolgirl outfits, pole dance through high school halls, and vomit all over his children. I don’t have kids, but two out of three, you know? The moral is, don’t have kids! And if you do have kids, don’t name them!
November 20, 2008
Elephants!
By Kelly Sampson
kelly.sampson@secondsupper.com Recently, my friends and I decided that it would be a fun experiment to redefine the English language. It all started one day when my best friend was walking through a field with two of his friends. He looked up and saw two butterflies that were somewhat twitterpated. He got his friend's attention and pointed at the butterflies, and in his head, he wanted to say, “Look the butterflies are going to have sex.” But when the sound left his lips, it came out “Look elephants!” His guys looked up and around for a split second and said, “Where?” He pointed at the butterflies and said “Right there.” His guys saw the butterflies and burst out laughing. The three of them decided that from then on, elephants would be butterflies and butterflies would be elephants. That was just the tip of the iceberg. We were having fun now. Once butterflies became elephants, it was only natural that moths would become hippopotami. Yes, the hippopotami come out at night and are attracted to light. From this event a whole new idea of the English language was born. There is a whole duck of things that have been added to this new concept. By the way a duck is really a list. Allow me to explain. My boss needed me to come to work so he could go take his wife to the hospital; she was pregnant and had started to have contractions. I talked to her, and found out that her contractions were seven minutes apart, so I called him and told him to get all his ducks in a row before I get there so that he could leave right away to go get her. He started to rattle off a whole bunch of things he wanted me to do. I told him to make a list for me; the list could be one of his ducks.When I got there, I saw a list on the table with the caption, “This is my Duck.” So from that day forth, a duck became a list and a list became a duck. My other friend was at Best Buy getting a quote on some cameras. The guy that was helping him started to ramble off a bunch of statistics about this and that and the other thing, so my friend looked up and asked him “If you could just put that into a duck for me that would be great.” The guy looked at my friend with a very confused look on his face. When my friend saw the confusion he said “OK, so a duck is a list and a list is a duck. It’s a long story, so just go with it.” The poor man didn’t argue. But we didn’t stop there! We have successfully (at least among ourselves) renamed a
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whole plethora of English words. Mostly it had to do with animals and insects, but there were a few that make no sense at all. So here is the duck of renamed words. First the recap; elephants are butterflies (just know that is goes the other way too) moths are hippopotami, and ducks are lists. OK, now to the new ones. All flies are now Harold, all undergarments worn on the bottom half are now panties. All John Deere tractors are scorpions. Lady bugs are Galapagos tortoises, grasshoppers are gazelle and crickets are antelope. This is fun right? Imagine how much fun it would be to be sitting in the park, having a picnic, and yelling “Gross, the mearcats are in my fruit salad!” (That would be ants, because they pop out of the ground and travel in packs.) I mean the reaction you get when you use these new definitions is worth it on its own. I love seeing the look of “HUH?” on people’s faces.We are still in the works right now to make it a normal part of a conversation. But we are vigilant. For now, just know that if you are ever on a safari with me and my friends and any one of us yells, “Look out, butterflies!” you best have good running shoes, because we’re not talking about small winged insects.
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The Death of English? By Briana Rupel
briana.rupel@secondsupper.com Imagine you're a middle school teacher who's just gotten home from work, an armful of essays waiting to be graded cradled against your chest.You sit down at your desk, and as you begin flipping through the stack, red pen in hand, a jumbled collaboration of letters, numbers, and symbols almost force you to break out your old decoder ring. My smmr hols wr CWOT. B4, we usd 2go2 NY 2C my bro, his GF & thr 3 :- kds FTF. ILNY, it's a gr8 plc. Need help? Here it goes: My summer holidays were a complete waste of time. Before, we used to go to New York to see my brother, his girlfriend and their three screaming kids face to face. I love New York. It's a great place. Though it may seem too ridiculous to be real for some, this actually was part of an essay turned in by a 13-year-old Scottish girl not more than five years ago. The language? The increasingly ubiquitous shorthand of the Text Message. In an age where 8-year-olds — and kids even younger — are seen thumbing away on their own personal cell phones instead of playing in tree houses, incorporating "text-speak" into school work may appear to be the next inevitable progression of language. In fact, students in New Zealand have been allowed to use text-speak, if they desire to do so, on written national exams since 2006. The country's Qualifications Authority still claims to frown upon anything other than "full English," but assures that complete credit will be given as long as the text-speaking student still proves to have a thorough understanding of the subject matter. The Research and Markets report on global mobile use has predicted that in 2008 alone over 2 trillion text messages will be sent world-wide. While that number continues to rise, will our comprehension of — and consideration for — language fall? Of course, we've seen the English language evolve many times before. Who, in 2008 (aside from scholars on the subject, perhaps), can whip through The Canterbury Tales without re-reading every stanza three times over,
stopping at every other line to scour the footnotes at the bottom of the page? Who can escape the constant creation of slang and the intermingling of immigrant languages? Yet, though English has always been changing, the incessant incorporation of text-speak into modern English could prove to be detrimental. Carol Carlson, an English teacher at La Crosse's Central High School, has already seen effects in students' ability to be analytical, as well as really develop and progress in their own
writing, only in the last five years. "I think it's because of the brevity of email and text messaging," explains Carlson. "(Teens are) encouraged now to be as brief as they can, and it's difficult to translate that into something with a lot of depth. "Even complex sentences," she continues, "are foreign to many students." Purely out of efficiency, texting encourages the use of the most simple and redundant words possible. Correct grammar and spelling
goes out the window, because the message most likely will be understood without it. If the majority of a child's communication with others is done through the dumbed-down language of modern technology, how can he or she learn how to coherently develop their thoughts and express exactly what they need to say? The expansion of a personal vocabulary is then hindered, and grammatical rules to be remembered for a more formal setting become forgotten. There's no need in the texting world to know the difference between "you're" and "your." You can simply punch out "UR." "Grammar rules are being changed," says Carlson, "and it relates to people's thinking. I'm wondering if many of those changes will soon become acceptable." Carlson has added something new to her curriculum this year as a way to connect with her students who were born in the digital age. She began writing her own blog online and has her students respond to prompts she enters. "It's an attempt to allow them to use that language in the right context," she says. "They love it." She's not the only one trying to bridge the gap between lackluster text-speak and descriptive English. Educators in Victoria, Australia are teaching text messaging as part of their language arts curriculum, but as a way of showing the students that it's just another part of English, the way technical jargon or dialects are. They're hoping that teaching text-speak as a second language will help students understand the structure and syntax of standard English, so their communication skills can develop beyond abbreviated form. A deep knowledge of language is one of the most important things a person can own. With it, you have the ability to find that perfect word to tell someone exactly how you feel. You can play with its structure and grammar to make words sound almost musical. You can choose your words wisely and fit into any situation, be it hanging out at a bar with friends or giving a presentation at work. Language should be alive. When it's reduced to an abbreviated mash-up, it becomes limp and lifeless. Let's hope the ever-increasing prevalence of textspeak doesn't mean the death of English.
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Wow man, so dig, the fuzz laid this heavy trip on me by kicking down the door at my pad to pinch my lid. I was grooving on some liquid sunshine. It was far out man, and next thing I know the man was harshing my mellow with some square trip. My old lady got hauled off but I jumped out the window and crashed in my microbus. I'm on the lam, and this far out cosmic sister grooved up and told me I could crash at this flophouse up the country that is like a total stone groove. Her guru laid this trip on me about karma coming back on the man and the collapse of the corrupt bourgeois pigs when we get it together in the Age of Aquarius. Far out! So you can back off with all that hassle, man, and mellow out because I'm not gonna cut my hair and be no square. Hey man, who's bogarting my joint? — Shuggypop Jackson
Heavens to murgatroyd, let me tell you something, mister, I'm as mad as a wet hornet.These darn kids keep making a racket next door in to the wee hours, and I hoot and holler at them to pipe down. But do they listen to me, heavens no! They need to mind their Ps and Qs around me, because buster, I put my kahunas on the line for sixty years in this town and won't be having none of that nonsense. In my day, you make that type of hip hip hooray after sun down, you better have all your ducks in a row or you will be sure to have somebody bustin' your chops. Jumping Jehoshaphat, I ought to take them out back and give them a switch in keister. Anywho, I won't stand for no more of that sass and you can bet the farm that they will have a nice spot down in H-E-double-hockey-sticks for all that smart talk or my name isn't Shuggypop Jackson. — Shuggypop Jackson
1337 4Ax0RS! Gr33tings, all you 1337 4Ax0RS1! I've just come from doing an awesome raid with my Guild on the latest WoW update2! I'm nearing Level 80, and I'm ready to totally pwn n00bs like j003! While we're running the train on j00 n00bs for the lulzness4, your pitiful life will come to the most unsatisfactory end. All your base are belong to us, make your time5. And if you try to make a big fuss about it, prepare to be b&6. In b47 "OMG WTF HAX8?!?" how 'bout learning some serious 1337 4ax0Ring skills of your own. 1. Elite hackers 2. In reference to raiding a party with a group of people in the game World of Warcraft 3. Literal translation: “I’m totally going to own players of insufficient skills like you” 4. For the laughs (e.g. did it for the lulz) 5. These are lines taken from the video game Zero Wing, which sparked a minor Internet fad back in 2001 6. Short hand for “banned” 7. In before 8. “Oh My God, What The Fuck, Hacks” — Ben Clark
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Consarn it! I’m not about to let snot-nosed Knickerbockers like you darken this Box Social with your rigmarole. Don’t think I haven’t noticed you hoods riding your penny-farthings around town, twirling your handlebar mustaches at its good people. You and your hoity-toity monocles, top hats, and spats. You think you’re better than everyone! Balderdash! It’s high time somebody knocked you rapscallions down to size. As soon as I finish this mug of root-beer and take my Sen-Sen, me and the barbershop quartet are going to take you snake-oil salesmen down to the paddle-boat, and we’ll have a donnybrook that you won’t soon forget! It’s time to put up your dukes, Mac! — Brett Emerson
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shuggypop.jackson@secondsupper.com So a friend of mine works for a large firm in the San Diego area and is the person in charge of reviewing applications for job positions posted online. For several years now, she will send me the most horrific examples of grammar used by people applying for the positions, and we both get all giggly at them. She forwarded me the following that she received just this past week. Fifteen people who couldn't form a few proper sentences in just a few days? Observe all the poor grammar, misspellings, lack of punctuation or capitalization. Is there really any mystery as to why America is falling behind in the global market? "pls see my resume and if you need more information pls call me at (number)" "I am interested in the customer support position your company currently has open. Up until recently I worked for Rightway Gate registering and and administering international domains for 180 CCTLD's, I also am able to provide hosting, ftp, email and general technical support, please find my enclosed resume." "In addition to my resume below, you should know that I am extremely organized, multitasking, have excellent phone skills, independent/self- motivated, outgoing, intelligent, love to part of a team and can handle anything and
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"Hello, Im interested in the customer service position you have listed on Craigslist. Im bilingual, english and spanish both fluent. Good communicaiton skiss, have customer service experience, work well with others,I think im a well qualified candidate for your company." "here is my resume for the position you have open can you let men now at (number)" "Hello my name is (name) and I saw the add in craiglist I atached my resume." "Hello my name is (name), and i was inquiring about the job posting for a bilingual customer service/ tech support specialist. I am fully bilingual, very computer literate and have worked in the customer service industry for the past four years. If someone could please send me instrucions on applying for the position(i.e. send resume or apply in person) i would greatly appreciate it." "Well my name (name) I would like more information how to apply for a position within your company? I'm a graduate formal Maric College currently seek employment. I do have current resume that I could fax over Thank you !!!"
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Dispatches from (A Thankful!) HQ! I'm thankful for... ... living in a city that has given me quite a variety of experiences, some personal and many with friends. ...bacteria, for without them I would be going to school for nothing. (Special shout out to my homies S. aureus, P. aurigenosa, and S. marcescen!) ...the Internet, which has simultaneously kept me informed and completely wasted my time thus far. Awesome. ...bad action movies. ...music, which may be the only thing that keeps me from com-
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pletely going insane. ...an audience, whether it be our many fine readers or people I'm performing in front of. It honestly never gets any better than that. ...fuzzy, wool socks, especially if they're fresh from the bag that you bought them in. On a related note, I'm also thankful for alpacas. Truly, the most majestic creature nature has brought forth upon our land. — Ben Clark
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From Chicago... I'm grateful for the coffee shops that open at 5 a.m., even though the barista was up until 3 a.m. studying and still manages to be completely chipper. I'm thankful for scarves and gloves and warm socks. I am thankful for the wonderful warming buzz of alcohol. I'm thankful the show Mad Men. I'm thankful that no one gives money to the really crappy subway performers, so the only people that interupt my subway experience now are actually not that bad. I'm thankful for the people who say really stupid stuff in class and make me look good for my otherwise average comment. I'm thankful for my paycheck. I'm thankful for Cloris Leachman, John Stewart, and Steven Colbert,Tina Fey, and Kristen Wiig. I'm thankful that there were no riots in Grant Park the night of the election (and yes, I'm thankful for the election results). I'm thankful for my friends and family. — Kelly Morrison
What I’m thankful for Cardigans, the most stylish defense against ancient insulation. Surfthechannel.com for letting me watch Mad Men, South Park, The Wire, Curb Your Enthusiasm,Weeds, and It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia … whenever I want to. Pabst Blue Ribbon and all the Kwik Trips that will sell me 18 of them for $10.75. Sledding, quite possibly the only redeeming part of winter. Brewers’ owner Mark Attanasio for making fall baseball interesting again. Phish singer Trey Anastasio for making summer tour interesting again. A sensible voting public. It’s about time. Apple Bottom Jeans, set to arrive in La Crosse circa 2010. Okkervil River, the only band guaranteed to make a sweet album. Hash browns, scrambled eggs with cream cheese, rye toast and orange juice. If you’re only going to eat one breakfast, might as well make it a good one. Second Supper … still can’t quite believe I get paid for this. — Adam Bissen
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monwel.2@gmail.com Hey kids, have you ever wanted to be a teacher? If you’re like me, and slightly sadistic, you’ve always wanted to be a teacher. If not, here’s a little story about teaching English in South Korea. It happened one night in Minneapolis in April. I was just finishing a shift at work and my friend Tiff suggested we grab a pint and some wings. As we sat at the bar enjoying our wings and libations she told me about her plan to teach English in South Korea. I had recently finished up a degree in History and was hoping to put it to some good use on the road to becoming a teacher myself. As she laid out the pros and cons — and I consumed more and more beverages — the more her plan sounded like the job of a lifetime for me. By the time I got home, I had called half my friends and most of my family to inform them of my new decision to go abroad and teach our mother tongue. Now you might be asking yourself: What does it take to be an English teacher in another country? And to that I say: very little. The main requirement is a four-year degree from a university or a college. There is no teaching experience required, and when I started the background check they required could be acquired from one of several not-so-official Web sites. My first teaching gig in Korea was working for a girls' middle school on a small island in the Sea of Japan called Namhae. But before I was unleashed on the Korean Kiddies I went through a “training camp” in the capital of the province I would be working in. The “training camp” lasted four days. The first two days of the camp were spent in a classroom listening to different guest speakers talk about their own experiences as Native Speakers and gave us some insight into living in Korea. The thing that came up the most during this camp was drinking, inside and outside of the classroom. This was no exception in the schools. In the United States, our impression of most of our former teachers is that of a square who goes home after work every night to enjoy dinner with the family. In Korea, at least once a week the entire school would play volleyball and then enjoy dinner and drinks together. The professionalism displayed all day at school went
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completely out the window as soon as the first bottle of soju (a traditional Korean alcohol that tastes similar to vodka) was opened. Whatever happened at school was left at school, and vice versa whatever happened at dinner was left at dinner. Now you’re probably imaging me drinking and carousing with people my age (I’m 26, for those of you who haven’t had the pleasure of meeting me), but men old enough to be my father usually accompanied me, and the ringleader was almost always our principal. If you ever saw him during the day he was the most professional looking and acting man in the school, but once the soju started flowing he was just one of the boys. And the drinking wasn’t just limited to outside of school. I remember many a Friday afternoon our principal would order fried food and beer for the faculty. This treat was usually followed with an invitation to drink with him outside of school, but sometimes enough is enough. As you read this you’re probably thinking the same thing that most of my friends and family thought when I first started telling them about teaching in Korea, that all this kid does is drink. As great as the drinking after school was, the true reward was teaching. Each week I taught 22 classes. Each class was 45 minutes long, and a Korean English teacher almost always accompanied me into the classroom. They were there to do a number of things, like translate, discipline and not understand me. My first year teaching was a bit of a struggle. I knew how to speak English, and I had taken
years of Spanish, but learning a language and teaching a language are two different things. So my first year I taught my students how to play games like Scattergories, tic-tac-toe, and bingo. The students loved it. I was by far their favorite teacher. There is a certain appeal to a foreign man in a foreign land. I was always given the rockstar treatment. Girls would come up to me and shake my hand and run away and giggle. Boys would run up and give me a hug. Later, girls would ask me for my phone number, and 15 other girls would be anxiously awaiting my response. Boys would ask me for my autograph, and then form a line as soon as I signed the first boy's notebook. This treatment surprisingly never got old; however, my lessons — or
lack thereof — did. After about the 15th bingo lesson I decided to give writing a try. I split the classroom into four groups and gave each group an envelope with words inside. The words usually had nothing in common. For example one group of 8th grade girls were given these words: NATE, CHRISTMAS, ORANGE JUICE, PLATE, SKI, GLASSES, REFRIGERATOR, CUTE, COAT, SPAGHETTI, BROKEN HEART, HANDSOME THIEF, BEARD. The story they came up with is priceless. I’ve typed it here verbatim: Today is Christmas. Ah-Ran [student's name] and Nate was loving couple. But Nate was broken heart, and Nate go to house. Nate was put off the coat, and Nate was open the refrigerator. Nate a glasses of orange juice. After but Nate’s job is thief, so Nate go out outside so Nate steal spaghetti on the plate. So Nate hold up the spaghetti and ride the ski, and went house, Nate was confessing everyday to her. She liked very spaghetti, so she was impression and handsome and cute Nate have a beard. Nate and Ah-Ran was married. The girls shared this story with the class and the entire time Ah-Ran was staring at me with stars in her eyes and the biggest smile I’d seen on a 14-year-old since Adam Bissen came to my house and saw his first Playboy. Teachers will often add culture to their lesions and a big part of a country's culture is its gestures and what they mean. My friend Tiff worked at an all-girls high school. As I told her about my ideas for this article she shared with me a similar story that I felt obliged to include in this article. It goes like this here: “I was teaching a class about hand gestures, from around the world. I kept it simple, by discussing handshakes, the thumbs up, the okay sign and the sign for come here. At the end of the lesson I asked if anyone had any questions. One of my brighter students who earlier in the year asked me what philandering meant, raised her left hand and started pumping her right hand next to her cheek while simultaneously pushing her tongue against her
left cheek. As soon as I saw this I started laughing really hard. So another student asked the first student what she did, so the first student showed her and then about 10 other students began to do it. By this time I was dying laughing because half my class was doing the hand gesture for a B.J. I told her that she should look it up, and that was the last time I ever saw my students doing that.” As I write this and look back on my two years in Korea filled with moustaches (on me), motorcycles (under me) and students (in front of me) I realize I totally deserve the rockstar treatment. If I was 14-years-old and one of my teachers rolled into school on a Harley, wearing black sunglasses and a leather jacket and only played games and let us write stories about them falling in love with one of my classmates, I would probably ask him for his autograph or phone number too.
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adam.bissen@secondsupper.com As an instrumental band it can be difficult to convey political messages in music, but Sound Tribe Sector 9 has been raising its fans’ awareness for over a decade. In the beginning the Georgia quintet spread a new-age enthusiasm for global harmony and natural time — arranging crystals on stage and distributing calendars of the 13 Moons — but its message grew more secular as the Bush administration moved down the path of global hegemony. In the lead up to the Iraq War, bassist David Murphy gave emotional speeches from stage, and he later urged fans to vote Bush out of office and to not trust corporate media. Now relocated to Northern California, STS9 is still passionate about politics; they’re just more selective in spreading the message. Peaceblaster, their latest album, references leftist authors like Naomi Klein, Howard Zinn and Aldous Huxley, and the accompanying Web site allows band members to blog about their favorite causes. In advance of STS9’s tour-ending run through Milwaukee and Minneapolis this weekend, Second Supper phoned up percussionist Jeffree Lerner to discuss the band’s political savvy, musical growth, moviemaking ventures and the “bread crumbs” to global awareness. Second Supper: What did you think of the national elections last Tuesday? Jeffree Lerner: Oh, man, it was unbelievable. Unbelievable. We’re all really excited. I think it’s the first time — at least in my voting history — that it hasn’t been a Clinton or a Bush, so it’s just exciting times for our country. I think it’s going to do a lot for the respect of the United
JL: Well, I don’t know. That will be to be determined. I think there’s a great potential for that. I think the psyche, the thoughts and feelings of Americans, have definitely taken a shift. And I just think there’s some great opportunities. You know, there’s a lot of work to be done, and we’ll just see how it works out. But it’s definitely exciting times. SS: For a band that used to be so outwardly political — I know your bassist used to speak from stage about not going to war in Iraq, not voting for President Bush, not supporting corporate media — it seems like you’ve been notably silent for this election. JL: Well, I mean, I don’t know. We’ve been in this election process for two years. We’ve had HeadCount out with us for at least a year of that, if not more, of registering kids to vote and encouraging people to part of the process. At the late stages in the game, everyone is so bombarded. We don’t want to preach to people. People come to be entertained. We have a theme to us still. I don’t know about the silent part about that. We’ve been pretty vocal — maybe not so much on stage — but with the other things that we’ve been doing and Peaceblaster.com and things like that, just trying to find where that voice is appropriate. SS: “Appropriate.” Yeah, that’s definitely interesting because at least song title-wise — you don’t have a whole lot of singing on any of your albums — but based on the titles Peaceblaster is your most political album ever. JL: Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. We’re just going to let that speak for itself, but the bread crumbs are there in the song titles and all that we’re doing kind of extraneously.
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SS: When I listen to Peaceblaster I see it as a departure from old Sector 9 music in a couple ways. For one there’s the embrace of secular politics with the Naomi Klein references, but the sound is also a little more rock-ish, a little more abrasive compared to the music you made in the past. JL: Well, I think we were trying to capture an energy that we perform live — in the sense that if you look at [the previous STS9 album] ARTifact. ARTifact was a real studio-based kind of experiment in a different sound of what we can do in a studio. And I think we tried to combine some of the principles of ARTifact with what we do live. Just try to capture a little bit of that energy.You know, we just won the election, things were a little more edgy and a little more kind of what you’re saying, and we just tried to capture that. I don’t think it’s necessarily a departure from what we do or done. I think it’s just kind of a snapshot of now, where we were at in those six, seven months, and we feel real good about it.
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that? — July, so four months ago. What kind of response do you think it’s gotten so far? JL: It’s gotten great response.We’ve made some charts that we’ve never made before — Billboard charts and electronic charts. We were #1 or 2 for a good solid month on iTunes for the electronic charts. It’s been a great response, for sure, for sure. And the response to the music at the shows has been great as well. It seems like everyone’s feeling it. Yeah, we’re real happy with the outcome, for sure. SS: Were you worried at all before releasing an album like this? JL: Not at all. [pause] What would we need to be worried about? SS: Oh, referencing Naomi Klein, Howard Zinn. These aren’t really run-of-the-mill topics for a band in your field. JL: [laughs] I don’t know; worrying wasn’t a part of it. SS: But dealing with subjects like that, is it hard to reach a consensus within the band?
SS: How did the ideas come out to reference these different political topics that are listed throughout the liner notes? JL: Well, I think that it was all the things that we were reading at the time. We’ve been working on a documentary film that just got submitted to Sundance. That’s just kind of the theme of the camp: where we’re at, what we’re reading, what was in the news, what was relevant to the times. SS: How do you hope the album is received?
SS: When did the band start working on the album that would become Peaceblaster?
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JL: It took us about six, seven months to write all the music and to finish it. It was a really quick process for us.We just kind of bared down and dug in and kind of approached it as “What music do we want to play for the next year and a half?” It was a really great experience for us, for sure.
JL: Obviously I want people to like it. I want people to enjoy the music. And if they feel like doing a little research on their own, there’s some great clues, if you will. SS: Was that an important factor for you, leaving those messages as clues as opposed to the way it used to be — exhortations from stage? JL: Um, I’m not necessarily seeing a big departure from what we’ve always done, so I don’t even know how to answer that. We’ve never really been up there on stage preaching a lot. We just try to inspire. That’s the main point of everything: inspiration and getting people involved. But you can’t force anybody to do anything. It’s all about inspiring one. SS: Well the album dropped in — what was
JL: I think that’s exactly why we took the approach that we took. We’re not here to tell anybody what’s right or wrong. We obviously have our opinions, but we want to inspire people to become a part of the process, to educate themselves. The information is out there. That’s the main gist of the whole thing: inspiration of we as artists and our interaction with the world and what we’re learning and feeling and wanting to share that with others. But sharing it in a way that’s not: This is right; this is wrong. It’s like: “Here’s some information for you. Make your own decisions.” SS: In 2008 — living in a time of business conglomeration, career politicians, corporate media — is it naïve to think that music can affect change? JL: Jeez, if I didn’t believe that I don’t know that I would be doing what I do. [laughs] Yeah, I think it does. I definitely think it isn’t “The Change.” But inspire the process? For sure. Number one: just the fact that people gather in a place to listen to music. That’s a huge part of what our
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Despite its various styles, there’s no ambiguity about this La Crosse band. Moon Boot Posse is a party band, a mixture of reggae stutters with Red Hot Chili Peppers-grade funk. The Chili Peppers influence is a crucial ingredient in the band’s makeup, best embodied in vocals that sound like eerie replicas of Anthony Kiedis. “Placement” stands as the zenith of comparison, in which the Kiedis-like raps burst the dam. A fascination with the California sunshine — obvious in the guitar swirls of “Welcome to Los Angeles” but readily apparent in many songs throughout — strengthens that link. On the other side of its sonic landscape lie staccato guitar lines, heralding reggae bounce and wavy lyrics. The opening track gives a glimpse of the Jah to come, but it takes a few tracks until “Sunshine Now” throws out the beachside vibe in full. While Moon Boot Posse leans heavy on
guitar, moments on this disc find keys hiding beneath the surface, boosting the strings. The organs and synths first become noticeable halfway through the album on “Strange Universe,” humming alongside the melody. The keys finally burst through in the next track, Moon Boot Posse’s most uniquely arranged track on the album, titled “Now You Know.” Beacon pianos rush out after a rare trip into distorto-rhythym guitar, last for 30 seconds, and are then washed away by a squelch-spastic guitar solo. After that, the usual instrumentation returns. Lyrically, the songs are fairly elemental affairs, your usual party poetry. At times they fall too far into California beach mythology, which comes out of a Midwest band with a hint of strange. Additionally, the vocalist gets a bit selfreferential, shouting out the name of the band in the songs.The band doesn’t take this to Mike Jones absurdity — they aren’t giving away their phone numbers in mid-verse — but this sort of lyrical promotion tends to be the on-stage equivalent of the audience member who wears the band’s shirt to its show. Led Zeppelin wouldn’t be immune. The big word to describe this album is easy. Moon Boot Posse goes to great lengths to bring the uncomplicated chill, and its mission has been accomplished. — Brett Emerson
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of these cats are the cream of the crop of the young and hip New York nightlife scene. Currently it is Friday evening, and the program that's on is by some dude's representing Fader magazine. While I'm typing this they have been playing exclusive remixes of club bangers hot off the press that only they have.Whoa. It should be noted that customers in my store are bopping around to the music and several have enthusiastically asked me what I'm listening to. Earlier in their set they were throwing on zoned out cuts by indie psych freak folk favs such as Grizzly Bear, Deerhunter, Six Organs of Admittance, Wooden Wand and the Vanishing Voice, and a must-have remix of a song by the Liars. At one point there was a remix of a Bjork song Dull Flame of Desire with guest vocals from Antony of Antony and the Johnsons. This was followed by a Lil' Wayne jam. Cutting edge radio for the adventurous doesn't get any better than this. — Shuggypop Jackson
$6.50 six-pack — but with the Capital Amber already so exemplar, it seems a little pointless to sip the muddied-up retread. The pour is exciting for about 20 seconds, then a 3-finger head reduces to weak foam. The rest of the beer is murky with racing carbonation, but while there’s significant yeast in the nose, it’s not so visible in the caramel-colored beer. The rest of the aroma is sweet like brown sugar and honey, but odd metallic whiffs set the table for the underwhelming beer that’s to follow. Hitting the tongue, the Rustic Ale opens with Capital’s famed caramel malts, but they soon vanish behind notes of burnt grains and peanut shells. The taste of hops is almost nonexistent, creating a beer that is as easy to drink as it is to forget. Maybe I’ve been watching too much Mad Men lately, but to this reviewer the most interesting part of the Rustic Ale is the writing on the box that convinced me to buy it. — Adam Bissen
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Oh hi. So last week was the first episode of this column where I write about whatever record I'm listening to at the moment I type this. Well, it's only week two, and I'm already breaking my own rules. See, I'm writing this from my other parttime job at a retail shop (shhh, don't tell my boss) and there isn't a record player here, so I am streaming an Internet radio station called eastvillageradio.com on the store's speakers. This Web station has been around since 2003, and every two hours a different DJ comes on to play music from their private collections of obscure and underground goodies. Pretty much any genre of music you can think of is represented at some point on their schedule. Several of these DJs are people I have been professionally networking with for years, just because I'm like that. These DJs spin live from a storefront studio on a busy sidewalk in Greenwich Village that tens of thousands of people walk past daily. You can feel the pulse of the city through the airwaves. Quite a few
Funny things can happen to a microbrewery on its way to the top. Inevitably, any ascension begins with the racking up of beer awards, accolades for mastering a craft in a particular style. Next comes the marketing, the tastings, the buzz, the distribution deals, the competition, and the pressure to “enhance the brand.” To expand, a brewmaster then has two routes: shore up his traditional offerings by appealing to the quality beer drinker or diversify his line to hit every flavor of the month. Capital Brewery, “America’s #1 Rated Brewery” (it took 7th behind six European beers in the 1998 rankings of the Beverage Testing Institute) started along the first route with its impeccable amber, Bavarian lager and doppelbock, but lately it’s been veering down the Appearance: 5 gimmicky path. The new Rustic Ale is an Aroma: 5 unfortunate continuation of that trend, a Taste: 7 beer that seemingly has no reason to exMouthfeel: 6 ist but for the pitch of marketers. Drinkability: 8 OK, that review might be a bit harsh. The Rustic Ale is a Total: 31 good-drinking beer — and you could do a lot worse with a
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Zack and Miri Make a Porno HHHH
Cop and a Half (1993)
Director: Kevin Smith Cast: Seth Rogen, Elizabeth Banks, Craig Robinson Writer: Kevin Smith The first time Kevin Smith made a film analyzing sex between friends, the result was the hilarious-yet-touching Chasing Amy, arguably his best movie and the closest he's come to making a perfect film. But time has not offered Smith any new wisdom on how to conclude this type of sex comedy, because Zack and Miri, like Chasing Amy, stumbles at the finish line. Smith's self-inflicted purpose as a filmmaker has always been to discuss the chaos in relationships; only in films like Chasing Amy and Zack and Miri, when he needlessly offers a solution, does he mishandle the material. The guy's a great writer; he invents dialogue funnier than most stand-up acts. His insight into relationships is unparalleled, but he can't write a final act to save his life. Everything else is there, though: a fun plot (summed up in the title), likable characters, hilarious dialogue, and plenty of heart. Oh, and there's enough raunch to fill a whole season of South Park. Racy dialogue is Smith's moneymaker, and here it's applicable to the subject
matter. As a result, the movie doesn't feel as dirty as it should — the raunch is expected — though one scene in particular will leave theatergoers simultaneously guffawing and gagging. In the midst of running the vulgarity well dry, Smith allows a touching plot to blossom in unforeseen ways. The real magic of Zack and Miri's friendship remains hidden for most of the film, during which Smith covertly builds up the characters and their seemingly simple relationship. Their stab at porn might then be less an attempt to make money and more an opportunity for them to confront their feelings, however deeply hidden they may be. As he did in Chasing Amy, Smith layers on the tension, gradually conveying that the answer to the characters' quandary won't involve any smooth sailing. In fact, with the first two acts realized so peerlessly, the finale becomes that much more of a let down, but that's not to say it ruins the movie entirely. There's too much great writing here. Plus, props to Smith for enlisting the help of music, mainly Pixies and Live in two particularly well-executed scenes. Too bad he couldn't nail the ending. But practice makes perfect, and for a guy with endless creative ideas like Smith, there'll be plenty of time for a masterpiece in the future. — Nicholas Cabreza
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Directed by: Henry Winkler Starring: Burt Reynolds, Norman D. Golden II Written by: Arne Olsen I deem this film a cult classic, in spite of its Reynolds and Fonzian roots, for one reason: It taught one of my best friends how to kick ass against the forces of frat redneckdom. This is a true story. One night, my friend and I decided to hit downtown in garish drag makeup. When the bars closed, I caught a ride home. My friend decided to walk the few blocks to the crap sanctuary. While on his way home, a car full of frat boys pulled up to my friend. They put on the usual charm with lines such as “If I looked like you, I’d kill myself.” The chumps sped away, only to roll around the block and follow him again. One of them emerged from the vehicle and walked- alongside my friend in fake camaraderie. The dickhead suddenly punched my friend, who fell to the concrete. For whatever reason, the dickhead reached down and offered to pull my friend to his feet. But my pal, remembering the awesome lessons of Cop and a Half, had his own plan. In that fine movie, the almighty Burt taught an impressionable kid to defend himself against bullies. Burt’s signature line went as follows: “What comes after L? Bow!” This was followed by a sharp elbow to the assailant’s groin, which
took out the bastard. R e m e m b e ring this sage advice, my friend dropped a fuckhead with a funny bone to the nuts. The prick went down. A few retaliatory punts later, my friend escaped. He entered the house we shared with post-traumatic on his face. To recover, he and another doofus rode down our stairs on a cardboard sled. When they spilled into our kitchen, I kicked one, jumped on the other, and then leaped face-first into the living room doorway and performed the most perfect Home Alone horizontal pratfall of all time. It was Bolshoi! Cop and a Half is more than a slapstick film with a wisecracking black kid running on Burt Reynolds’ last nerve. It is a valuable resource of self-defense! Without the great Burt, my friend might be dead! Besides, any movie that features a pissing swordfight between Burt Reynolds and a child is automatic gold, even if the rest of the movie sucks. Which, well… — Brett Emerson
Bibliophile Brendan Behan – Borstal Boy (1958) The most significant effect that this book had on my life was not, I’m certain, one that was intended. This hard-drinking Irish writer’s account of life as a would-be IRA bomber turned boy prisoner isn’t the lurid jail tale that we would expect. There are no Bubbas in the juvie Borstals. While there are descriptions of sudden bursts of violence, penal rape-fetishists will be disappointed at the absence of burly gangbangs. Behan’s charity, and kindness, and thoughtfulness in recounting his prison years are surely unexpected, especially considering the historic animosity between his Ireland and the England of his incarceration. Yet the most direct affect that Borstal Boy had on my life was that it made me want to smoke until my lungs fell out. It’s not much exaggeration to say that cigarettes are mentioned at an average rate of once per paragraph. Almost everyone in this story smokes. Those who don’t smoke want to. Guards provide the kids with cancer sticks, pulled from a seemingly endless supply. From the description, you’d think that going to juvie was like celebrating a tobacco Hanukkah. Behan thus illustrates a point that he may not have intended, describing the age before smoking and drinking became terminal diseases in the public esteem.There’s a sad appropriateness to Behan’s cavalier description of acceptable drug use. As a self-confessed “drinker with a writ-
ing problem,” his life was consumed by booze, which killed him at just 41 years of age. In retrospect, it’s easy to pick out a minor theme of acceptable addiction within the book. This story, however, is bigger than that. Its dissections of allegiance, friendship, territorialism, and friendship are performed with fierce intelligence and wit, attributes that don’t fade within English cells. Yet Behan’s is a candor which doesn’t rely on spite or preclude greater understanding. Consider that the story begins in Liverpool, with the young Irish Republican ready to detonate any and all members of the Limey scourge. The plot is broken up, and Behan is sent to the clink, a terrorist saved from dire punishment due to his youth. What’s remarkable about this story is how far these circumstances and Behan’s patriotism fall to the background. As time passes, his crime barely becomes a talking point. He becomes one prisoner among many, though a highly literate one, prone to outburst of Gaelic song. Personality is what makes Borstal Boy so magnetic, not events. Were it not for Behan’s infusing every page, it would have been a nondescript prison story.As it turned out, the book became so powerful that it was once banned in his homeland, and helped cement Behan’s seat among that nation’s finest writers, before booze took him down. — Brett Emerson
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I'm Jonesin' for a Crossword "Court Case"--time to mix and match. By Matt Jones Across 1 Horrorcore hiphop group whose fans are called Juggalos, for short 4 Longtime Boston Symphony Orchestra director Ozawa 9 World book? 14 Org. whose logo displays an eagle holding two guns 15 Statement accepted as true 16 Occasional Stooge 17 Miles Davis, Charlie Parker, Louis Armstrong et al.? 19 Transition from one topic to another 20 Introduce a new product 21 Florida city about an hour and a half from Disney World 22 Chinese name of Taoist philosopher Lao-Tzu 23 Key at the top left 26 More sharp 27 Much-maligned imports of the 1980s 29 Brain scans, for short
31 Goes bad 32 Device that cuts your fingernails without even touching them? 35 Electric shaver company 36 People who walk nervously during loud,
stormy weather? 42 Greek god of love 43 "Bonne fete ___ ..." ("Happy Birthday" line, in Quebec) 44 Donald Sutherland mystery film of 1971 46 Gift recipients 48 Dir. opposite SSW
50 Abbr. meaning "in the same place," in footnotes 51 Sweater fabrics 52 Sesame seed paste 54 ___-ski 55 Amount paid on a natural gas bill?
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58 Actress Witherspoon of "Four Christmases" 59 In base 8 60 Prefix meaning "ear" 61 Word before code or shirt 62 Character who dies in "Top Gun" 63 "Smoking" alternative Down 1 When Independence Day and Bastille Day take place 2 Board game with the categories "Data Head" and "Word Worm" 3 Spanish actress who starred in "Sex and Lucia" and "Spanglish" 4 Short story writer H.H. Munro's pen name 5 Force out of the country 6 "There's no ___ team" 7 Exercise in the park 8 Contacts while surfing the Web, perhaps
9 Org. 10 Band who sang "Pictures of You" in 1990 11 Will bequeather 12 Necklace charms with powers 13 "Womanizer" singer of 2008 18 Like weightless situations in space, for short 24 Antiperspirant brand once advertised as "strong enough for a man" 25 Budget brand of Intel CPUs 26 Org. with a shelter outreach program 28 ___ Fein (Irish political party) 30 Actress Peri of "Frasier" 33 Musical conclusions 34 Pit left by an acne scar 36 Highway cop 37 Roast subject, perhaps 38 Good-for-nothing 39 Former Secretary of State Root 40 River famously crossed by Caesar
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Happenings classifieds $790 / 2br - Beautiful, Spacious Upper- Garage, Garden, Porch 115 N. 13th Street, La Crosse Conveniently located near the YMCA, UW-L,Viterbo, and downtown. Security Deposit $750 is due at lease signing. This is a short term rental available from December 1st through April 31st. SUBLEASE: 3 Bedroom House 1727 Mississippi St Available now thru June 1st (option to renew). Cool 3 bedroom house + den, dining room, w/d, pellet stove, and more. No Pets! 784-6731 2001 18ft Bayliner ski boat snap fit cover, 125hp Mercury, ski pylon 608-385-5315, $9400 2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport blue, cd, pl, pw, 262-893-8313, $5900 King pillow top mattress set in Package, $255, Full Sized Set $120 Deliverable 608-3994494 Queen pillow top mattress set Brand New Still in Plastic, Can Deliver 608-399-4494 80 acres of hunting land Trophy bucks & turkeys, etc. Can build on it. $4400 per acre. 16 x 80 Mobile Home On the bluff, 3 BR, 2 Bath, fenced yard, garage, deck. Available now. $22,900 or make offer. 608-7842513 or 317-0980.
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Every Monday Acoustic Cafe Winona, Minn. 8 p.m. Philosophical discussion group YOGA
Every Tuesday Bluffland Bloom & Brew La Crosse approx. 7 p.m. All ages, skill levels welcome Donations gladly accepted FIGURE DRAWING
Every Wednesday Green Bay Street Studio La Crosse greenbaystreetstudio.blogspot.com 6 p.m. - 8 p.m. cost is $5 ($3 for members and students) WINONA AREA PEACEMAKERS VIGIL
Every Thursday Central Park Winona, Minn. 4:30 p.m. POETRY READING
Every Sunday Bluffland Bloom & Brew La Crosse Begins at dusk Open mic reading, come to read or just to watch. Free and open to all ages. COMMUNITY HARVEST
Every Sunday Private home, email for details Winona, Minn. 2 p.m. Free food and talent
art exhibits SENIOR EXHIBITION University Gallery at UW-L Nov. 21 through Dec. 10 The exhibit opens with a reception from 5 to 7 p.m. Friday, Nov. 21, in the gallery. The exhibit and reception are free and open to the public. Exhibiting are Matt Duckett, Carrie Crase, Libby Hansen, Aala Daous, Stacy Johnson, Kylie Parry, Lanore Hahn, Megan Rhodes and Nancy Maring. During the exhibit, the adjacent Study Gallery will feature “Art 160, Books.” Gallery hours are noon to 8 p.m. Monday through Thursday, noon to 5 p.m. Friday and Saturday and during events in Toland Theatre. The gallery will be closed Nov. 27-30. .
camping WHISPERING PINES 15 minutes north of La Crosse, on Hwy 53 925 Dana Ln. Holmen, WI 608-526-2152 NESHONOC LAKESIDE CAMP RESORT N5334 Neshonoc Rd. West Salem, WI 608-786-1792 PETTIBONE PARK RESORT 333 Park Plaza Dr. La Crosse, WI 608-782-5858 GREAT RIVER BLUFFS STATE PARK 43605 Kipp Drive Winona, MN 507-643-6849 BEAVER CREEK VALLEY 15954 County 1 Caledonia, MN 507-724-2107 JOHN A. LATSCH PARK From Winona go approximately 12 miles northwest on U.S. Highway 61. (507-643-6849
performances FIVE WOMEN WEARING THE SAME DRESS
Winona State University’s Performing Arts Center Dorothy B. Magnus Open Stage Theatre. Wednesday, Nov. 19, through Sunday, Nov. 23 This dark comedy, which follows five bridesmaids of a bride they detest, was written by Alan Ball, creator of HBO’s “Six Feet Under” and 1999 Academy Award winner for “American Beauty.” VIOLET
La Croix Black Box Theatre November 20-23 Music by Jeanine Tesori; Book and Lyrics by Brian Crawley; Based on The Ugliest Pilgrim by Doris Betts Director: Rick Walters Set in 1964 in the Deep South,Violet follows a young woman's growth and enlightenment. In hopes that a TV evangelist can cure her, she embarks on a journey by bus from North Carolina to Oklahoma. Along the way, she meets a young soldier who teachers her about beauty, love, courage, and what it means to be an outsider.
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Hmong Cultural & Community Center, corner of Ward & South Ave La Crosse 608-782-4877 5 - 7:00 p.m. Doors open at 4:30pm To raise awareness about the causes of homelessness and what can be done to support those who are experiencing homelessness and hunger. Non-perishable food items accepted at the door. Dinner will be provided by Outback Steakhouse. People attending this event are encouraged to donate. Because we have limited seating, RSVP is required. Please call Abby Olson 608-782-4877 HOLIDAY FAIR
November 20 - 23 La Crosse Center 608-789-7400 Huge craft show! COMMUNITY THANKSGIVING DINNER
November 27 La Crosse Center 608-789-7400 for more information. To volunteer to help, call 608-7824483. For a delivery of the dinner to your home, call 608-782-1411. HOLIDAY ART FAIR AND WINE TASTING
November 22 Trempealeau Hotel 11 a.m. - 3 p.m. Featuring local and organic wines, fine cheeses, the Trempealeau Hotel’s amazing cuisine, AND fine arts and crafts. HOLIDAY DISPLAY: "STORYBOOK CHRISTMAS"
November 28 Swarthout Museum 112 South Ninth St., La Crosse 1 p.m. - 5 p.m. Classic children's stories with antique and vintage toys from years gone by. Admission is free and open to the public. For more information, please call the Historical Society at 608-782-1980. ROTARY LIGHTS
December 1 - 31 Riverside Park Over TWO MILLION lights illuminate Riverside Park. Live reindeer in Santa Village December 1-23. Live Nativity Scene each weekend before Dec 25. Open daily 5-10pm, Christmas Eve and Christmas Day 5-9pm, and New Year`s Eve 5pm-1am.
Pump House, La Crosse www.thepumphouse.org Presenting the "Holiday Show", recreating the experience of entertainment in the days before radio and television. $12 in advance or $15 on the day of the show. A VITERBO CHRISTMAS
December 6 - 7 Viterbo University Fine Arts Center Main Theatre 608-796-3100 www.viterbo.edu Experience the true joy and beauty of Christmas with Viterbo University`s performance. Join us in this uplifting and reverent celebration of the season. NORSKEDALEN'S OLD FASHIONED CHRISTMAS
December 6 - 7 Norskedalen Heritage & Nature Center, Coon Valley, Wis. 608-452-3424 www.norskedalen.org Come experience the holiday season with some of your favorite foods, holiday entertainment, bake sale, decorated pioneer homestead, raffle, cake walk, gift shops, wagon rides and more! PUMP HOUSE READING SERIES
December 9 Pump House, La Crosse 608-785-1434 www.thepumphouse.org Featuring Benjamin Percy, award winning novelist. Author of Refresh, Refresh and The Language of Elk. HOLIDAY TRAIN
December 11 Amtrak Station, La Crosse 608-782-2366 www.cpr.ca 3:15 pm. Come to see the awesome Canadian Pacific Railroad decorated train! See the boxcar show! Please bring a non-perishable food item to be donated to a local food pantry. LA CROSSE SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA — HAPPY HOLIDAYS
December 19 - 20 Viterbo University Fine Arts Center www.lacrossesymphony.org 608-783-2121 7:30 p.m. $35/$19
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STS9, cont. government is all about — gathering and coming together as people. You know, I don’t think that music is going to make all the change. It’s just one part of the process, one part of the machine. Obviously music is a big factor of what — like I said — brings people together and just having that experience. But don’t misunderstand me: It’s not The Change. It’s just part of it, part of a lot of things that need to happen for us to move forward. SS: Oh, definitely. But speaking of those gatherings, when I speak to some of your longtime fans, they talk about that intimate connection that was there from the start — at those Georgia frat parties, those southern bars. As the band grows and sells out Red Rocks and plays these big outdoor sheds with Umphrey’s McGee, is it hard keeping that band/audience connection together? JL: Umm, I don’t think so. I really don’t. Even shows like Red Rocks have a certain intimacy to them. There’s always that connection between the fans and the crowd. Start playing 30-40,000 seat venues and I’m sure there’s some challenges there, but we haven’t experienced that. We seem to be able to maintain that connection. And from a musician’s perspective we’re still very inspired by the fans. They’re a big part of the show. SS: Starting out 10 years ago, did you ever think STS9 would be able to rise to this level? JL: No. [laughs] No. We all feel pretty blessed, for sure, to be experiencing what we’re experiencing. We really take that seriously as well. We don’t take that for granted in any way, shape, or form.We just keep growing and learning, just like anybody else. SS: What does it feel like to walk out on a Red Rocks stage and see 8,500 kids who came to see you play a show? JL: It’s amazing. It’s a huge honor. It makes me want to play the best music that you can play. It’s just a whole lot of inspiration going on, you know. We try to inspire our fans; our fans inspire us; and that community just keeps growing.
Future Sons by Noah Singer SS: What’s been inspiring you lately? JL: Well, the same things that have kind of always inspired me. Obviously music itself is a huge inspiration. The fans and the size of the crowds have inspired us to play the best music that we can play. The climate of the country and the election and the state of the world is inspiration. Nature is inspiration. Yeah. As things grow and change around us, our music and our principles are locked in. Whether it be a show of 500 people or 10,000 people, still the same principles apply. And that’s kind of what we focus on.We don’t gear our show differently for 10,000 people. It’s the same music, and we try to do the best we can and stay humble. SS: What’s the status of that documentary you mentioned earlier? JL: Oh, the status is it just got submitted to Sundance. We’re waiting to hear back within the next couple weeks. Have you checked out the trailer at all online? SS: Oh, yeah, I’ve seen it. JL: Yep. That’s the deal. We’re superexcited. That whole experience is just a great learning experience for us. And it’s a great opportunity to meet some of our heroes: Noam Chomskys and Howard Zinns and the list just goes on and on from there. It’s just something that has grown into its own and something that we’re excited about to see and to get it out into the public, get some reactions to it. SS: How active was the band in the moviemaking process? JL: Oh, super-active. We’ve been working on this for almost four years. SS: Wow. So that was your project from the start? You had the idea, you tracked down the interview subjects, you had a whole movie you wanted to make? JL: Yeah. It’s basically ours and the producers’ creation from the beginning, with obviously a lot of input from a lot of people. SS: Huh. So you guys do an interview with Noam Chomsky? JL:Yep, we interview Noam Chomsky. We interviewed Howard Zinn. The list goes on and on. SS: How did you like working in the new medium of film?
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JL: Yeah, it’s great: an opportunity to share and get some thoughts out that are of value to us and hopefully our community. Basically, we had a lot of questions and sought out the answers from the experts. You’re talking about history, why not go to Howard Zinn and talk about history? Go straight to the source, you know? It was a great opportunity for us, for sure. Even on the level of personnel growth and personal discovery and doing something a little larger than ourselves. SS: Do you see STS9 doing more film projects? I know you did that score to All God’s Children Can Dance. JL: Yeah. In the future, we’ll see. We’ll take some time to write another album or two and get some more music out and really focus on the re-
cord label.We’ll take a little break for a while, but we’ll revisit that kind of stuff. We’ll wait for the film to come out and see how it’s reacted to and just keep moving forward. SS: If you change anything about STS9 is there anything you’d do differently? JL: Umm, I don’t know. Just keep growing and just continue with what we’re doing.Those changes will come naturally. I don’t think there’s any big reconstruction things I’d do. Like I said earlier, we’ve maintained our values and our principles throughout all this growth and this experience. Just keep focused on that and creating and sharing and performing the best music that we can, you know? It is what it is, you know? I don’t think
there’s much that I’m unhappy with or that I’d change. I’ve been doing this a long time, 11 years now I guess. No, I wouldn’t change anything. But things will change. They will happen naturally and organically. SS: It’s not like you have the end goal in mind. It’s what happens along the way. JL: Yeah, but it’s not like we just let it happen either. I hate to sound cliché, but for us it’s not the destination but what we do in between that’s going to get us to where we’re going to go. We just focus on creating music. It’s nothing too complicated. [laughs] It may seem complicated, but it’s really not.
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$2.50 Jack Daniel Mixers $2.00 Goldschlager
2 for 1 cans &
Italian beef w/dog bottles meal: $6.69during Packer games Pizza Puff meal: $4.49
2.25 for mini pitcher
free pitcher of beer or soda with large closed pizza
CheapShots Chuck’s 318 Pearl st. 1101 La Crosse st.
Chuck’s Joe’s Coconut 1101Pearl La Crosse st. 223 st.
16oz top sirloin $7 22oz tbone 9.75 sutffed sirloin 8 jack daniels tipsTaps 8 $1 shots of $1 Domestic Doctor, cherry doctor - 8-cl $2 Craft Import Taps Happy $1.75 cans, $2 $2.50 hour Vodka4-6Mixers mix drinks
$1 Shot Menu
1/4 barrel meatball sandwich giveaway meal: $6.69 8-11 $1 burgers 2 Chicago dogs meal:
during Monday night football
meat or marinara spaghetti: $3.45 $2.50 Italian sausage: $4.95 Blatz vs. Old Style pitchers
$1 off apps closed Happy Hour All Day 20 wings and 5 miller lites for $15
Kids Eat$2.50 Free With Blatz vs. Old Style Adult pitchers $3.00 Long Islands Martini Ladies' Night Martini Madness James Martini: vodka, triple $2 off all martinis
114 5th ave.
417 Jay st.
Bud Night 6 - CL: $1.75 bottles $5 pitchers
$5.89 meatball sandwich Burgers 2 for 1 bottles and cans meal:Buck $6.15 1/4 Barrel during the game 2 dogs meal:giveaway $ 5.25
The The Cavalier Cavalier 114 5th ave. CheapShots Chances R 318 Pearl st.
5-8 p.m. 16oz Sirloin $7, Blue Cheese Stuffed Sirloin $8, Jack Daniels Tips $8, 22oz T Bone $9.75, $1 shots doc and cherry doc 8 p.m. - close
sec, orange juice
712- CL - 7: $1 domestic 12 oz 2-4-1 rails $2 Stoli mixers
$2.50 beers 7 - CL
$3.00 Domestic Pitchers, $1 domestic 12 oz $2.00 Shots of Cuervo, $2 StoliGoldschlager mixers Rumpleminz,
closed $3 Pitchers 1.75 Rails
Tuesday Wednesday Thursday 33 games games for for $5 $5 starts at 7 starts at 7 p.m. p.m.
Import Import night night starts starts at at 77 p.m. p.m.
Cosmic Cosmic Bowl Bowl & & Karaoke starts Karaoke starts at at 99 p.m. p.m.
Cosmic Cosmic Bowl Bowl starts starts at at 99 p.m. p.m.
11 a.m. - 9 p.m. hard or soft shell tacos $1
5-8 p.m. BBQ coun6 - CL try style ribs $5, $2.50 Sparks euchre tourney 7:30
11 a.m. - 9 p.m. AUCE Wings $5, Bingo $2 Silos BOGO $1 cherry bombs
5-83-7 p.m. fishhappy dinnerhour $5.25
2-8 p.m. AUCE wings $5
$1 softshell tacos Happy Hour 4 p.m. - 9 p.m. M-FAUCE wings $5.00 $5 bbq ribs and free crazy bingo $1 Domestic Silos fries buySee one $2.50 Premium Silos ourcherry Ad for allbomb of $2.50 Three Olive Mixers the for great$1 deals get one
$2.50 Select imports/craft $1 shots of doctor, Beers cherry doctor $2.50 Top shelf Mixers $2 Mich Golden bottles
$2. Goldschlager
3 p.m. - midnight
grilled$6.00 chicken sandwich meal: $5.29 AUCD
Italian beefnight meal: bucket $6.69 6 for $9 Chicago chili dog: $3.89 beef meal: Italian $6.15 Bucket Night beers Chicago chili6dog: $3.45 for $9
hamburger or 25 cent hot wings cheeseburger meal: $3.89 $1 shots of Dr. Italian Beef w/dog hamburger meal: $7.89meal: $3.69 cheeseburger meal: 25 cent wings Dollar $3.89 shots of Doctor
Polish sausage meal: $4.49 chicken sandgrilled wich meal: $5.29 Polish AUCDsausage Taps andmeal: Rails $3.99 8-1 $6
soup or salad bar $1.25 make your own $2.25 burgers, $2.60 FREE with entree or 3 - 8cheeseburgers, p.m. 1/2 off anything that pours tacos, $4.75 taco salad $2 off $1.50 U-Call-Its $2 10 cent wings - CL) sandwich untilBuster 3 p.m. $2.25 margaritas, large pizza, $1(9fries $3.50 Price $1.25 High Life bottles Football ($3.95 by itself) offFantasy large taco pizzaStat with any pizza Wristband & Wristband $1.50 rail mixers
party!
night
HAPPY HOUR 3 PM - 8 PM
Thirsty - $1 Mexi-Night Tuesday Soft Shell Tacos $2.50 Margaritas
10 cent wings (9 - CL) $12-4-1 High Life bottles Burgers $1.50 rail Pitchers mixers Kul Light $5 $2 Guinness pints
Wristband Rib Nite Night Beer Pong @10 p.m.
Wii Night
$1 Dr. 6- shots 8 $3 $1.50 Jager Bombs taps
6closed - 8 p.m. $1.50 rails/domestics
7 - midnight 7 - CL 7- CL: 3- CL: Ladies: 2 for 1 Tequila’s chips & salsa, Margarita Monday 2 Beers, 1 topping pizza Guys: $1.50 Coors $2 Coronas, $2.50 $2.50 $11 and Kul Light bottles Mike’s, Mike-arita (rocks only)
$1.25 beers & rails
$.50 Ladies: domestic2taps, for$11 microbrews, $3 domestic Guys: $1.50 Coors pitchers, $6 microbrew and Kul Light bottles pitchers
$2 Malibu $2.00 Cruzan madness Rum Mixers, $2.50$2 Jameson Shots, $3.00 pineapple Mixers
$1 rail mixers $3.00 Patron Shots $2 Bacardi mixers
FiestaHollow Mexicana Fox 5200 Mormon Coulee
chicken & veggie fajitasown Build your for Mary two Bloody 16oz Mug - $4.00
football night domestic beer:Pizza $1.50 Homemade Mexican beer: $2.00 & PItcher of Beer
HAPPY HOURshrimp EVERYDAY 3 - 6 chili chicken burrito verde primavera $1.25 Bucket of Domestic 25 Cent Wings BURGERS Cans 5 for $9.00
Build your own Bloody Mary 16oz Mug - $4.00
Homemade Pizza & PItcher of Beer $9.00 $5.99 $5.99 gyro gyro fries fries & & soda soda
1908 Campbell rd.
Huck Finn’s Howie's
127 dr. st. 1128Marina La Crosse
9-clNBC Mary night. (Night Bloody Before Class) $3 pitchspecials ers of the beast - 2 4-9 p.m. Happy10 Hour
Football Sunday $1.75 domestic JB’s Speakeasy 11-7 happy hour, free The Helm bottles 717 Rose st. food, $1.50 bloody, 1/2
108 3rd st price pitchers DTB Second Supper vol. 8, issue 141
$1 Bazooka Joes
$3.00 Captain mixers/ mojitos Fish Fry $2 Cherry Bombs $1 Bazooka Joes
$1 Bazooka Joes
$3.00 Bacardi mixers/ mojitos $3 bloodys $2 Cherry Bombs $1 Bazooka 'til Joes noon
50 cent taps 4 - 7 (increases 50 cents per Great drinks! hour) $1 rails
10 - CL: $1.50 rails Hour 12 - 7
$2.00 Captain Mixers
Great drinks!
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Happy Hour 12 - 7 cents off most items
$2.00 Malibu, $2.50 Jaeger, $3.00 Jaeger Bombs
upsidedown cake
chicken Topless primavera Tuesday
Gracie’s Gracie’s 1908 Campbell rd.
$1.50 $6.75 bloody marys $3 Three Olivesdinner mixers/ mojitos $3 Bacardi mixers/ mojitos shrimp 11 a.m. - 4 p.m $2 Cherry bombs $2 Cherry bombs
WING NIGHT-$1.25/LB $2 Tuesdays, including Wristband All day Everyday: $1 Doctor $2 Silos. M-F: Happy HourBBQ, 2-6PLAIN $.50 off everything but the daily special$2.50 JUMBO CAPTAIN AND BUFFALO, SMOKEY buy one get one Domestic $2 bottles, import taps, $1.00 PABST AND PABST LIGHT Night After Class $3 beerMIXERS ('til 6 p.m.) Ladies' Nite out 1.50 Raill $.50 pong, taps Domestic 3.00 BOTTLES$1.50 ROLLING ROCK RING TOSS NIGHT beer apps, single FLAVORED BACARDI Guys'closed Nite out 1.50 silos $5 COLLEGE I.D. Pitchers $1.75 Rails Holmen Meat Locker Jerky BOTTLES mixers/ $2.50 X bombs pitchers shot mixers, featured 3 Rings for $1 $2.25 BUD LIGHTS $1.00 SHOT $3.00 JAGER BOMBS Raffle $9 general public shots, and 50 cent taps OF THENIGHT-$1.25/LB WEEK WING $2 Tuesdays, including Wristband BUFFALO, SMOKEY BBQ, PLAIN $1 Ladies Night $2 bottles, import taps, $1.00 PABST AND PABST LIGHT Topless $2.50 JUMBO CAPTAIN AND Karaoke live DJ Night buy one, get one free Kul Light Karaoke BOTTLES$1.50 ROLLING ROCK closed beer pong, apps, single Tuesday $1 shot specials $1 shot specials $5 COLLEGE I.D. FLAVORED BACARDI MIXERS BOTTLES wear a bikini, drink free shot mixers, featured cans $2.25 BUD LIGHTS $1.00 SHOT $9 general public $3.00 JAGER BOMBS shots, and 50 cent taps OF THE WEEK
football $1 night domestic Kul beer: Light $1.50 Mexicancans beer: $2.00
N3287 County rd. OA 1904 Campbell
$4.50
beers & rails 7 -$1.00 midnight 7 - midnight 7 - CL All day, everyday: Shots of Doctor, $2.00 Cherry Bombs, $1.75 Silos of Busch Light/Coors 7 - midnight Happy
Tequila’s chips & salsa, Mexican Monday $2.00 Corona, $2 Coronas, $2.50 Corona Light, Cuervo Mike’s, Mike-arita
$2.50 X-Rated Mixers $2 Captain Mixers $2 Premium Grain Belt $2 Snake Bites
pepper & egg sandwich Italian beef meal: domestic pitchers $6.69 meal: $5.00 barrel parties2 Chicago at cost dog meal: Italian sausage meal: pepper & egg sandwich $5.89 $6.69 Italian beef meal: meal: $4.50, fish $6.15 sandwich meal: $4.99, 2 Chicago dog meal: $4.50 domestic pitchers Pitcher and Pizza $10 Italian sausage meal: $3.45 $6.15
7 - midnight 7- CL: $2 Malibu madness Guys' Night $2 pineapple $1.25 upsidedown cake
7 - midnight 7- CL: $1 rail mixers Ladies' Night $2 Bacardi mixers
chicken$4 & veggie full fajitas pint Irish for Bomb two Car
Fox Hollow Goal Post
Dad's Beer"
for 1 $5 All 2Mojitos taps
Fiesta Dan’s Mexicana Place
N3287 County OA
batterfried cod, fries, $2.50 Bomb Shots beans, and garlic bread $2.50 Ketel One Mixers $5.50 $2 Retro Beers "Your
HAPPY HOUR 4 - 7
$4 full pint Irish closed Car Bomb
5200 Mormon Coulee 411 3rd st.
Saturday
Buck Buck Night Night starts starts at at 66 p.m. p.m.
Coconut Joe’s Dan’s Place 223 3rd Pearlst.st. 411
Friday
$9.00
9-cl$3.50 Domestic pitchers $1.75 domestic bottles
shrimp Ladies Night buy one, get one free burrito wear a bikini, drink free
chili Karaoke verde $1 shot specials
Asklive server DJ for details $1 shot specials Ask server for details
HAPPY HOUR EVERYDAY 3 - 6
HAPPY HOUR 6 AM - 9 AM
$1.25 beer pong 6 p.m. $8.95 16 oz steak BURGERS
free wings 6 p.m. - 9 p.m.
Bucket of Domestic Cans 5 for $9.00
25 CentHOUR Wings HAPPY
Buy Buy one one gyro gyro get get one one half half price price
free free baklava, baklava, ice ice cream cream or or sundae sundae with with meal meal
$1.25 $1.25 domestic domestic taps taps buy buy one one burger burger get get one one half half price price
HAPPY HOUR 9-cl- $1 rails, $2.50 pitchers, Beer Pong All day (everyday!) $1.75 domesticspecials $1.25 Old Style Light bottles $1.50 LAX Lager/Light $1 shots of Dr.
$5 AUCD
HAPPY HOUR 3 - 8 $8.95 16 oz. steak $8.95 1/2 lb. fish platter
5 p.m. - 10 p.m.
EVERYDAY 3 -7 9-cl and$1.25 9 - 11 rails, $1.75 bottles/cans
Karaoke
GREEK GREEK ALL ALL DAY DAY buy buy one one appetizer appetizer appetizer half price appetizer half price get one half price get one half price with meal with meal 9-cl -$2 captain mixers, $2 bottles/cans, $3 jager bombs
9-cl $2 bacardi mixers, $2 domestic pints, $1.50 shots blackberry brandy
HAPPY HOUR2-CL 5-7 Thirsty Thursday 3 12 oz. dom. taps $2 $1 vodka drinks $1 12 oz taps
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Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday & drink specials ] COMMUNITY SERVICE [ Area food
LA CROSSE Jai's Bar 168 Rose st.
JB’s Speakeasy 717 Rose st.
The Joint 324 Jay st.
Legend’s
Happy Hour 11 a.m. - 7 p.m. everyday. $1.50 rails & domestics
$3 bloodys $1 priced-to-move bottles
$1.75 domestic bottles
$1.75 domestic bottles
1/2 off Pearl Street pitchers during Packer game
4 - 8 p.m. Bacardi $3 doubles/pints
closed
223 Pearl st.
The Library 123 3rd st.
$2 Guinness all day
come in and find out ... you’ll be glad you did
closed closed
Ladies' night 7-CL buy one, get one rails and dom. bottles
$1.75 domestic bottles
$2 Boddington's English Pub Ale ALL DAY
50 cents off all drinks 7-CL
$1.00 off all Irish shots $2.50 pints of Guinness $3.00 imperial pints
every day $1 shots of Doc
$1 taps $1 rails 1/2 price Tequila
All your fav drinks at low prices
HAPPY HOUR 5 - 7
4 - 8 p.m. domestic bottles/rails $1.75
closed
$2 Irish Car Bombs (go out the Irish way) 7-CL
4 - 8 p.m. domestic bottles/rails $1.75
WING NIGHT $2 SVEDKA MIXERS $2.50 JACK MIXERS $2.25 BUD LIGHTS $2 SHOTS OF ALL DOCTOR FLAVORS
AFTER COMEDY: PINT NIGHT $1 PINTS OF RAILS MIXERS AND DOMESTIC TAPS $2 PINTS OF CALL MIXERS AND IMPORT TAPS $3 PINTS OF TOP SHELF MIXERS
KARAOKE $2 double rails, $3 double calls, $2 ALL bottles
Wristband Night and Beer Pong Tourney
5 - 7 p.m. 2-4-1 happy hour
great drinks!
$2 SHOTS OF GOLDSCHLAGER $5 DOUBLE VODKA ENERGY DRINK $3 Bacardi mixers $3 jumbo Long Islands
$3 Three Olives mixers $3 jumbo Long Islands
HAPPY HOUR 3 - 6
Nutbush
3264 George st.
Players
Price by Dice
214 Main St
Ralph's
In John's Bar 109 3rd st. N
Ringside 223 Pearl st.
Schmidty’s
Chef specials daily Mighty Meatball sub $6
open 11 - 6
3119 State rd.
breakfast buffet $9.95 10 a.m. - 2 p.m.
Shooter’s
$1 Shot Night
120 S 3rd st.
Sports Nut 801 Rose st.
Tailgators 1019 S 10th st.
Top Shots 137 S 4th st.
Yesterdays 317 Pearl st.
LA CRESCENT
Crescent Inn 444 Chestnut st.
WINONA Brothers 129 W 3rd st.
Godfather’s 30 Walnut st. 21
2 for 1 Happy Hour ALL NIGHT LONG
happy hour all day
open 4-9
Karaoke @ 10 p.m. 2-4-1 Happy Hour 5 - 10 AUCD Rail mixers @ 10 p.m.
Karaoke @ 10 p.m. 2-4-1 Happy Hour 5 - 10 $1 Pabst cans, Dr. shots @ 10 p.m.
chicken parmesan sub $6
Italian sandwich w/banana peppers and parmesan &6
open 11 - 6
double $6.50
2-4-1 Happy Hour 3 - 9 Best Damned DJ'S @ 10 p.m.
2-4-1 Happy Hour 3 - 8 Best Damned DJ'S @ 10 p.m.
Chicken salad on rye w/ lettuce, tomato, onion $5 $6.99 FISH SANDWICH FOR LUNCH, $7.99 FISH SANDWICH FOR DINNER, $9.99 ALL YOU CAN EAT FISH FRY ALL DAY
happy hour all day long! $1.00 OFF WILD WINGS, $1.00 PHILLY STEAK AND CHEESE.
LUNCH BUFFET $6.45 LUNCH SPECIALS CHANGE DAILY Ask Nicely See What Happens
Tie Tuesday Great Prices For Sharp Dressers
Buck Burgers
Tacos $1.25
$4 domestic pitchers
$1 Rails, $1.50 Pint Taps, $3 Long Island Pints 15 cent wings
$2.50 Bacardi Mixers, $3 Long Island Pints 12 oz. T-Bone $8.99
HAPPY HOUR 10 AM - 12, 4 PM - 6 PM $2 Bacardi mixers
$2 Spotted Cow & DT Brown pints
$1.50 Bud/Miller Lite/ PBR taps all day $1.75 rails 10 - 1
$2 domestic bottles 7 - 12, $2.50 Skyy/ Absolute mixers 10-1 $2 Dr. drinks
$1 Point special bottles
$2.50 pints Bass & Guinness
$1.75 domestic bottles
$2.25 Pearl st. pints $1.50 PBR bottles
Sunday
Monday
Tuesday Wednesday
$2 Rolling Rocks $2 domestic beer
8 - CL $1.50 rails $1.75 Bud cans
$1 shots of Dr. $2.50 Polish
Sunday
Monday
Tuesday Wednesday
closed
Southwest chicken pita $5
HAPPY HOUR 4 PM - 7 PM cheeseburger HOOP DAY!! MAKE YOUR SHOT AND YOUR ENTRÉE IS FREE!
$1.75 light taps and Dr. shots
Fiesta Night 7 - 12 $2 tequila shots $2.50 margaritas
2-4-1 Happy Hour 5 - 10 $2 Capt. mixers $1.75 domestic beer, $1.50 Rails, $1 Pabst cans @ 10 p.m.
$1 domestic taps $3 Jager Bombs
Bucket Night 5 for $9 5 domestic bottles for $10, $2 Bacardi mixers, $1.50 rail vodka mixers 10 -1
2 for 1 anything 9 p.m. - close Fantasy Football stat party!
family buffet 5 -8 kids under 10 pay .45 cents per year of age
any jumbo, large, or large 1 topping pizza medium pizza up to 5 $9.99 toppings: $11.99 (get 2nd large for $5)
10 cent wings, $3 filled mug ($1 tap refills, $2 rail refills) $1 High Life bottles/kamikaze shots
$1 Dr. shots $3 16 oz Captain mixers
$2 Long Islands, PBR bottles, Captain mixers
15 cent wings
$1 Dr. shots $3 16 oz Captain mixers
$2.75 deluxe Bloodys ‘til 7, $5 lite pitchers 7 - 12
$1.75 rails $1 PBR mugs
Thursday
Friday
Thursday $1 O-Bombs/ Bazooka Joes, Wristband Night
Saturday $2.50 Captain $2.50 Jager Bombs & Polish
$2 u-call-it (except top shelf)
3 - 8pm 1.00 off anything that Pours
$1 martinis $2 mojitos $3 margaritas & Michelob Golden pitchers
Fish Fry $6.95
$2.50 Bacardi Mixers, $3 Long Island Pints
Friday
Saturday
$2.50 Three Olives Vodkas $2 Cherry & Jäger Bombs
$2.50 Bacardi Drinks $2 Cherry & Jäger Bombs
November 20, 2008
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Entertainment Directory 11/20 - 11/26
Thursday, November 20
Sunday, November 23
Kreekside Adam Palm
7:00
Popcorn Tavern The New Blend
Bluffland All ages Open Mic
8:00
Ringside Comedy Night
8:00
Just A Roadie Away... 10:00
Monday, November 24
Madison
George St. Pub Adam Palm’s Open Jam
population
9:00
The Recovery Room Live DJ
9:00
Tuesday, November 25
Players 80's Night w/ Shuggypop Jackson Popcorn Tavern Cymata
10:00
Nutbush Live DJ 10:00 10:00
Nutbush Live DJ
10:00
Nighthawks Dave Orr's open jam
10:00
10:00
Popcorn Tavern Paulie
10:00
Alumni Brownie's Open Jam
10:00
Wednesday, November 26
Friday, November 21
Howie’s Comedy Night
8:30
Players Live DJ
10:00
Library Karaoke
9:00
10:00
Nighthawks Irene Keenan Jr.
9:00
10:00
Coconut’s Live DJ
10:00
10:00
The Joint The Peacheaters
10:00
Players Karaoke
10:00
Howie's Sunspot Popcorn Tavern LAX All-Stars Nighthawks Milk Toast
Saturday, November 22 Players Live DJ The Joint The Pimps w/Superdeece Popcorn Tavern Moon Dawg
10:00 10:00 10:00
Nighthawks Scotty Reed Blues Band 10:00 Second Supper vol. 8, issue 141
Popcorn Tavern Hooch reunion with Burnt Brownies
223,389
9:00
Popcorn Tavern Shawn's open jam
Dan’s Place Live DJ
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10:00
Got a show? Let us know! We'll put it in, yo. copyeditor@secondsupper.com
The Lucas Cates Band
Bar Next Door
Thurs.,11/20
Suicide Note Pelican
High Noon Saloon
Fri., 11/21
Steez
Der Rathskeller
Sat., 11/22
Santa
The Frequency
Sun., 11/23
The Big Mouth Cooperative
Cafe Montmartre
Mon., 11/24
The Mighty Short Bus
The Dry Bean Saloon and Steakhouse
Wed., 11/25
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