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1. Roll Call a. Call to order at 4:03pm 2. Visitors and Guest Speakers a. Anita Lumpkin: Veteran Students Discussion i. Sen Tsarouhis: Anita spoke about Veteran Student Affairs at a University Senate meeting. I spoke to her right away to talk about how to improve things for veteran students. Looking into three issues: UNIV101 can be demoralizing for veterans to take; serving country does not count as engaged learning requirement; and finding a space for veterans to hang out. Office is in the back of the tutoring center right now, size of a public bathroom. Something I’m very passionate about, believe that our veterans do deserve the best. ii. Anita: Coordinator for Veteran Student Services here at Loyola. New office that was started in August 2014, second semester here at the university. Role is threefold: help to transition our veteran students when they leave active duty into civilian life, try to walk with them through the admission advising process; helping them apply for VA benefits; work with campus resources to help veteran students increase and maintain their wellness; work to make our campus one that is inclusive and appreciative of veteran student experience. I’m a Loyola alum, MA in Education in 2011. iii. 149 veterans enrolled on campus, 50% of those are undergraduates. Average age is 29 years old at the undergraduate level. A lot of them have families, children, and responsibilities. 1. Sen Bosnich: We have a representative on the Engaged Learning committee. Anything else you hear from veterans about their experience? 1. Anita: A lot of barriers to that educational experience, regardless of what school they go to (not just at Loyola). Nursing school not taking transfers, no place for higher learning experience. How do we assess higher learning experiences that veterans have? How do we take the experiences they have had and make it meaningful in the higher ed perspective? Much larger conversation. At Loyola specifically, it just goes towards their elective credits, not really helping them progress towards a degree in any meaningful way. When someone joins the military, and someone calls you to serve your country, that changes people. Same goal we have for you through engaged learning. Makes you think about how you’re going to take this service and make the world a better place. 2. Sen Tsarouhis: How is the Wellness Center doing its job? 1. Anita: Wellness Center has been a pretty good advocate for my office and the veteran student population as a whole. Students in general only get about six appointments before they are asked to seek service elsewhere – not meant to be a long-term care-giving body. We have identified folks who are specialized for the specific types of traumas that veterans are most likely to have encountered. Also, there are resources with the VA, but veterans may not want to go to the VA for reasons you’ve heard on the news, I’m sure. We’ve identified some other resources outside the Wellness Center.
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3. Sen Chavez: How can we as a student body help them to be regular students? 1. Anita: What do you mean by regular student? i. Sen Chavez: How can we help them be more active with us and feel accepted? 1. Anita: Whatever stereotype you have of the military of veterans, I would ask you to check that at the door. We have all seen Zero Dark Thirty and American Sniper, and nine times out of ten that is not the experience that they have. Stereotypes: war-torn, has trauma, going to snap at any time. You should be cognizant of those stereotypes, go home and do a small reflection of what you really think. Know that you have that bias and just address it with yourself. Veterans already feel like you think that about them so they won’t self-identify. If a student does selfidentify as a veteran, don’t ask them the crazy questions: Have you ever killed anybody? Did you deploy? What’s an M16? Hold that until you’ve actually developed a real relationship with this person. Not every veteran has combat experience. Still respect their service even if they haven’t deployed anywhere. They are going through a different transition than you are going through. Be cognizant of those things. We meet people who are different from us every day. How can you take someone’s experience who is different from you and use that to help make you a better person? 4. Sen Cirone: How successful are these efforts and what are the challenges you face? 1. Anita: The UNIV thing will be new for the class coming in for Fall 2015. New initiative going forward, hopefully will be very successful. Wellness Center – some feel that they can’t go to the Wellness Center. I have a very dedicated undergraduate assistant who is also a veteran. The challenge for veteran students – their engagement level looks very different. They don’t live on campus, some are working full-time, are married with kids. Don’t have the time that other students have. 5. Sen Tsarouhis: Is there anything you would like members of SGLC to push towards to help veteran students? 1. Anita: Any type of support would be great. Had our very first Veterans Week this fall. It would be great to see non-veterans at those events to show solidarity. My office will be doing a joint faculty-staff training for veterans and students with disabilities and how to approach those with cultural competence. If this body would like to host that for the overall student body, I would be happy to do that for you. Any way that you can show support and solidarity for this group.
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b. Chief Justice Nasser: Hi. The Judicial Board is a mini supreme court. Go over any constitutional issues and decide on the ruling of it. You are sent a judicial report at the end of each week. We’re really friendly. I say this every single time but no one believes us. i. Sen Hines, Sen Patel, Sen Alam, Sen Makarious, Sen Cirone, Sen Dumbauld, Sen Pine, Sen Nihal, Sen Syed, Sen Sorrell, Sen Greene sworn into office. c. Confirmation of Associate Justices and University Senate Representative i. Pres Bravo: We had seven applications for associate justice position. One removed her name from the pool, another said he picked up a research position, so then we had five. Krishna Doshi and Harry Conkey both sophomores. I am open to answer any questions. 1. Krishna Doshi: Wanted to get more involved at Loyola and help out. 1. Sen Kelley: What specifically draws you to the judicial board? i. Krishna: Criticism, being able to see if I can take it and being able to hear both sides and making an informed decision. Very crucial to hear both sides, what factors play into that case and then make a decision. 2. Harry Conkey: Transferred from Santa Clara University, was an associate justice there. Make sure everyone is doing their duty, love that aspect of it. Looking forward to continuing that here with all of you. ii. Discussion of Associate Justices Nominees 1. Sen Chavez: Harry would be a good asset, has previous experience. 2. Sen Kelley (POC1): What year were they both? 1. Pres Bravo: Both sophomores. Harry just transferred, third week of school. 3. Speaker Murtaza: Sen Kelley, can you briefly explain what a motion is for the new Senators. 1. Sen Kelley: A motion is a proposal that the body do something. To vote on something, that the meeting ends, that the Speaker may be dispelled from his position. A motion is that the body officially act on something. Need majority vote. 4. Sen Kelley: I move that we approve the nominees by a show of hand. 1. Sen Kelley (affirmation): I think they will be great iii. Nominees approved. iv. Pres Bravo: Three applicants applied for University Senate Representative, appointed Isha Jog, sophomore at Loyola. Fairly involved on campus, looking to get more involved. 1. Isha: I’m a sophomore, was a student trustee to village of Hoffman Estates and to the local library. Wants to be a student voice. Ability to interact with adults. 1. Sen Alam: Which committee would you serve on? i. Pres Bravo: Whatever Tyler Hough was on. ii. VP Fasullo: The open position is the Academic Affairs committee. 2. Sen Tsarouhis: I move to approve the nominee. v. Nominee approved. 3. Approval of the Minutes 1
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a. Minutes approved. 4. Unfinished Business 5. Committee and Board Reports a. Sen Winn (RCDC): i. AFAC meeting at 7pm. ii. February 10th commuter appreciation event 1-3pm in SGLC office. b. Sen Bunnage (Justice): i. Committee meeting Mondays 4-5pm. Official kick-off meeting (I’m getting pizza) is tomorrow at 7pm. Will have Adriana Parker and people working on labor rights to join us. Talk about what we will do for the next two months with our committee. If anyone wants to work with Justice or interested in what we’re doing, please come! c. Sen Bosnich (Academic Affairs): i. Haven’t set a meeting time yet. Will be delegating boards this week. ii. If you are being solicited for surveys by Student Development office, super important that you do them! d. Sen Torres (Facilities and Transportation): i. Still working on 8-RIDE, meeting with Nick on Thursday. If a reporter from the Phoenix talks to you, be careful what you say because everything is up in the air. Don’t want us to give information if proposals change. e. Sen Black (Allocations): i. Had SPOT 1 hearings this past Saturday. Were able to fund 87%. ii. SPOT 1 appeal requests are due February 3rd and will be heard at Senate on February 10th. f. Sen Santy (Safety and Wellness): i. Meeting with Wellness Center people. ii. Planning for smoking forum. If anyone wants to participate, it’s in the SGLC office at 4pm tomorrow. 1. KC: Sen Santy, has a date been selected for the forum? 1. Sen Santy: Feb 18th g. Sen Kelley (CRC): i. Meeting times will be Thursdays at 5pm in the SGLC office. Will be discussing numerous amendments we plan to make in the Articles of Governance. h. Sen Fleisher (Gender Neutral Bathrooms Development Committee): i. Met for the first time last Saturday. Made plans solidifying what we’re doing to get approval to have family restrooms changed to gender neutral bathrooms, marking locations on Loyola’s campus map, two designs that will go in the bathroom. Will have a vote on which design the student body prefers. i. KC (Advisor’s Report): i. Distinct privilege and honor to serve as advisor of SGLC. I’m available to you if you have questions. Available immediately before or after these meetings, or can set up a time. ii. Excellence Awards nomination deadline extended to this Friday at 4:59pm. Find information on RamblerBuzz.
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iii. Arch Madness, purchase before February 11th, last date to reserve rooms. Basketball tournament in St. Louis. Had second largest student turnout last year. j. Pres Bravo (Executive Committee Report): i. Faculty and Staff member. Sr. Jean has been here 51 years, never been nominated. I nominated her for that. Think of faculty members you want to nominate. ii. Welcome newly elected members. If any of you read the Executive report, there was a survey. We are looking for feedback on the mid-year training. You will be entered in a raffle for a prize that will not suck. iii. It was brought to my attention that a piece of legislation has come to the floor that has lacked transparency and integrity in its formation. It undermined the efforts of the CRC, a group originally established by this body. The CSO and a staff member from SAGA met with our advisor but not with any member of the CRC. VP Fasullo and myself are concerned to say the least. Members were taken out to gain co-signers, a chair of a committee was taken to coffee and asked to sign without knowing what the repercussions would be. To the majority of the SGLC body and to new members, I apologize to each of you. We joined based on pillars of leadership, integrity, and generosity—which were thrown aside in the formation of this legislation. How can we criticize the university about transparency when we cannot be transparent with our own members? I will be setting up a meeting with those involved to see how we can smooth things over in a positive manner. k. CFO Chitkuer: Last day to turn in money for quarter zips. 6. New Business and Discussion a. Finals' Review Committee Resolution: Chief Sponsor Bosnich (First Reading) i. Sen Fleisher: Will administrators be allowed to sit on this committee? Will this be something presented from SGLC to Provost office directly? 1. Sen Bosnich: It is an autonomous body that is unbiased, not projecting SGLC’s wants on the review. ii. Sen Dumbauld: What is the difference between this schedule and the previous one? 1. Sen Bosnich: Eight day schedule in the past. New schedule is only six days. Same amount of exams, less amount of days. iii. AG Lynch: Assuming this were to pass, what are your next steps? 1. Sen Bosnich: Request the Provost to create this committee. iv. KC: Who would they present the findings to? 1. Sen Bosnich: Wasn’t sure who made the original decision, but I would imagine it would be the Provost and the Council of Deans. v. AG Lynch: Have you been in talks with administrators when you were crafting this to get their feedback? 1. Sen Bosnich: Requested by the executive branch of SGLC 2. VP Fasullo: Grant and I and others worked on this. Brought up to me. The chair of University Senate and Provost were open to this idea of creating a committee. vi. KC: Suggest that you codify who the committee would be accountable to 1. Sen Kelley: My interpretation is that the Provost would be the facilitator of this committee and the committee would report to him.
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1. Sen Bosnich: I think that’s implied. I think KC wants it to be more explicit. b. CAN Delegate Resolution: Chief Sponsor Kimble (First Reading) i. Sen Kimble: This is the piece of legislation President Bravo was referring to. Please look at it in an unbiased manner. ii. Sen Kelley (POC): The Delegate from CAN has no different responsibilities from the current CSO? 1. Sen Kimble: They would not sit on exec, just report to cabinet. iii. Sen Kelley: The Articles say the CSO shall be primary liaison between student orgs and SGLC. What’s the difference between the two? 1. Sen Kimble: CSO would not be called the CSO anymore. It would be a position on CAN and the CAN rep on SGLC would be elected. It would be a liaison. 1. Sen Kelley: Elected by whom? i. Sen Kimble: Student body 1. Sen Kelley: Same way that the CSO is? a. CSO Kadri: Difference is that this position is in charge of CAN. iv. Sen Kelley: What benefit does that serve to the student body? 1. Sen Kimble: Asking for the CSO to report to Senate, Exec, and cabinet. To free up time to direct the CAN. v. Sen Kelley: Why was the CRC not consulted? 1. Sen Kimble: Went through constitutional steps, there was a time crunch and we had to submit it. 1. Sen Kelley: Why was there a time crunch? i. Sen Kimble: We had to act quickly. 1. Sen Kelley: Who imposed that time crunch? a. Sen Kimble: Elections have to take place. vi. Sen Kelley: Whose idea was it that this legislation needed to happen? 1. CSO Kadri: Decided by myself and member of CAN. Our board has transformed from what it used to be in the past. Would serve this position better. SGLC is a different community. vii. Sen Kelley: Why was that initiative never brought before the Senate or CRC? 1. CSO Kadri: I think Nick already answered your question. viii. Sen Kelley: I have presented to the Senate and through committee reports on ten occasions, on my account, that the CRC is working on CAN reform. The person who was working on that reform, Sen Cheng, reached out to several members of SAGA, and received feedback from members of CAN eboard. Confused as to why there was no attempt to communicate with someone who worked several hours on this new initiative. 1. CSO Kadri: CRC was reforming CAN. This is reforming the position that represents CAN. 1. Sen Kelley: CSO chairs the CAN. This legislation would dissolve that position. I don’t think your point answers my question in any way.
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2. CCO Cheng: CRC was not looking to reform CAN, just seeing how it was currently functioning. We were looking to see if anything needed to be done. ix. AG Lynch: Why was a constitutional amendment not brought through the very specific CRC and was brought up on its own? 1. Sen Kimble: Not constitutionally required to go through that committee. Am I correct in saying that? 1. AG Lynch: You are right. x. Sen Kelley: Who originated this initiative? 1. CSO Kadri: I just previously answered that question. xi. Sen Kelley: The motive behind it was not originally presented before the student body. 1. CSO Kadri: Safe to say this resolution would benefit the student body. Not to sit between two different organizations, focused solely on the one position. xii. Sen Bunnage: I’m a co-sponsor of this legislation. Would like to remove my cosponsorship but not because I disagree with it. Take personal responsibility because I did not apply my most sophisticated political self when I signed it. Don’t know enough to officially take a stance on this legislation. Uncomfortable with the politics that went behind it, crazy personalities clashing and that’s not why I’m on student government. Here because I care about social justice and student community. I don’t want to be caught between the politics. Don’t disagree or agree with this. Don’t think it is necessary to keep going in circles and arguing about this here in this setting. xiii. Speaker Murtaza: It now has less than five co-sponsors and thus is no longer constitutional, no longer on the floor. 1. Sen Bosnich: Needs to have five co-sponsors and one chief sponsor when it was submitted to the Secretary, which it did. 1. AG Lynch: It needs that from conception to passing, and now it doesn’t. Its status has changed. c. Re-representation of CAN Legislation Discussion i. Sen Bosnich: Aamir approached me about this. CAN is independently operating org that is a liaison between student orgs and SAGA. I did meet with Melinda Bunnage for coffee on a completely different issue. I happened to be meeting with Melinda the next day and said I would bring it up with her. I resent being painted as a criminal politician. 1. Sen Bunnage: My intention was to take personal responsibility, not painting you as a criminal politician. I respect you. ii. Sen Bosnich: Takes another week to rewrite legislation, and now it will take two weeks longer because of politics. iii. Sen Kelley: I don’t see a whole lot of politics. Introduced to the floor prematurely, failed to understand why this conversation couldn’t have happened before legislation was written or introduced, before a body of senators found themselves confused on the content of this legislation. Not the way that this body was designed to operate. Not something you can just get through the Senate to make happen what you want to make happen. We are a collaborative, constructive, proactive body and this was a deceptive and
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misleading attempt that did not come from the students in the first place. Something that was inappropriately handled. Sen Kimble: The politics that Senator Bosnich is referring to is how SAGA advisors, co-sponsors, CSO were painted by the president. Legislation is presented, questions are asked, discussion is had. Brought up the following week. Sen Bosnich: Article 2, Section 1. CSO provided clarification. This is going to work. Two of the chief and one cosponsor are members on CAN. Speaker Murtaza: What would you like to achieve with this discussion? 1. Sen Bosnich: Open floor so we can collude before we write another piece? KC: Some may disagree with the way this came before Senate, but it met all of the requirements. Senators talked about it and decided to write legislation. Nothing wrong with bringing legislation. Issues in regards to CAN’s relationship and SGLC and the role the CSO plays in facilitating communication between the two bodies. Would hate for us to lose sight of that. Have reps of SAGA in the room, CSO in the room who can provide important information about what is not working so you all can hear about it and do something about it. Sen Fleisher: Had no clue this was happening today. I don’t feel I was able to adequately research this. Agree with KC that nothing was done wrong. Don’t know enough about it to vote. More appropriate for the people who do know about it to talk to us about it because it seems like something that is really needed. Leslie: Student director for SAGA. Full time staff advisor for ((dop)). Couple years since I worked with student government, terrible with Robert’s Rules. President Bravo, could you share for me your understanding for how CAN operates? 1. Pres Bravo: Called Campus Activities Network. Student orgs are there to have a network with each other. Clarifying SAGA procedure. If student orgs have struggled, they have different outlets where they can speak. Evolved over the years. Campus Life Union Board when Scott Harris was here. I would like to see that it remain. It’s a body I’m thankful for, but there’s always room for improvement. Leslie: Resource for RSO community to answer questions about funding, SAGA policies and procedures. Through office hours, email. Activity requests through RSOs to review them for accuracy, timeliness. Great deal of work. Implemented service to provide reminders for RSOs who receive allocations approval. Contract deadlines, helps keep up on those timelines so RSOs are not having to cancel events. Doing a ton of work. Sen Black has revamped our newsletter. Monthly CAN meetings. Rep from each RSO present to hear updates from our office, CAN itself, and SGLC. Second half of fall semester, enforcing accountability measures. Utilizing CAN to provide services for students. Not easy for us to keep track of 253 orgs on campus, thankful for the work that CAN does. Part of the challenge we face with the current existence of the relationship. CSO holds office hours with SGLC and is not able to hold office hours with SAGA and CAN. The CSO does not have to do any of those responsibilities because they are so encumbered with SGLC responsibilities. Need leader doing those responsibilities, internally managed, providing most accurate data back to SGLC. We did not think the current relationship
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was providing services and opportunities for students in SGLC, our current RSO members, CAN eboard members. 1. Sen Torres: Clarification on Allocations Committee and CAN? 1. Leslie: CAN helps educate students about allocations process. Allocations committee is not impacted by this decision regarding CAN. Some Senators are on both, but that is coincidental. Sen Bunnage: Criticism that a delegate wasn’t enough of a relationship between student orgs and student government. Any ideas on how that can be strengthened? Need more than just a delegate. 1. Leslie: We currently have it set up where the CSO is in charge of CAN and has a role in SGLC. Majority of you did not have any idea of what CAN really does. The way it currently exists isn’t necessarily hitting what you’re hoping to hit. I don’t know that we have to have a position set up in a particular way to improve the relationship. 1. Sen Bunnage: What other alternatives? I’ve been hearing in this discussion that a delegate not a strong enough position. How to strengthen the legislation and that role? VP Fasullo: Nobody wants to see CAN as it is now. We all would like to be on the same page in terms of moving forward with this. Looking at the legislation, some issues I had was that in past years the CSO was very helpful for us. He provided a lot of information on student orgs and we found it very useful. On our end, we are afraid of what it would look like without SGLC involved with CAN. Flavio and I spoke with CRC, backing their ideas— 1. AG Lynch (POO2): Going somewhere with this? 1. VP Fasullo: Providing my perspective 2. Sen Kelley: This is a discussion VP Fasullo: Spoke with student reps, MSA, SASA, Acafellas, said they would like to see student government still involved in the process. Seemed very on board with CRC plan. 1. CSO Kadri: Nothing is leaving student government; it’s just that that person is not in charge. Changing one snippet in the Articles that says CSO shall chair CAN. Sen Tsarouhis: Suggest that those who are sponsoring and co-sponsoring take some time to step back, come talk to CRC, work on how to amend the Articles. Sen Elhalawany: One of the reasons most of us didn’t know what CAN was is because Aamir never reports about CAN to us. Maybe alleviate the role of CSO but not get rid of it. Sen Kelley: Conversation I think we should have before legislation is brought to the floor. Relationship between CAN and SGLC is ineffective because of the way the relationship is structured. I remember last year the CSO was very effective in managing that relationship. I had a good idea of what CAN did, how student orgs were doing. To my knowledge, I sat on CRC last year, I don’t understand how anything that is constitutionally codified would’ve had a drastic difference between this year and last year.
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1. Leslie: CAN providing more and better services, need more from our CAN board. Anticipate our needs are going to grow. Need to free up some of the time expectations of that person in terms of SGLC. Instead of being in charge of CAN, underscores the point that your sole role is to update the exec board and the Senate. Do not want to sever relationship between CAN and SGLC. Want to clarify this position. Sen Kelley: Biggest change was that CAN would no longer be a function of the Student Government. Looks like a redefinition of the position… CAN is essentially seceding from student government. 1. Leslie: The way that CAN functions and operates, receive oversight and paid stipend. Supports our RSO community. Not in a position where they are directly reporting, serving at the needs of RSO community. Not trying to sever a relationship, trying to clarify it so both orgs can get the support they need. Our intention is to improve the connection and relationship with SGLC. AG Lynch: Point of constitutionality on the legislation. Last “Therefore” clause says Chapter 6 would be eradicated, and that’s the CAN chapter. If that were to be eradicated, how is that not severing the relationship? 1. Sen Bosnich: There would still be a representative. Talks about how these orgs are now independently operated. Why does CAN need SGLC? CAN is for student orgs, not for SGLC to utilize. Relationship benefits both bodies, which is why there is a representative. 1. Sen Bunnage: Less that CAN needs us, but we need CAN because we cannot adequately represent student body without knowing about student orgs. Maybe come up with a more sophisticated position than just a delegate. How can we strengthen a delegate so we do have that position and be connected to student orgs? VP Fasullo: Question for Sen Bosnich. I don’t see where it says that the CAN liaison would sit on cabinet and exec. 1. Sen Bosnich: Implied by location of section 8 in the executive branch. VP Fasullo: Assembly where orgs would have the ability bring up issues and concerns to collaborate together. Ideas we were thinking of. Speaking to CAN reps yesterday, they explained it was a little too heavy on the SAGA policy side. Said they would like something more like the Social Justice Coalition to be apart of CAN, the setup of it. Gives students the ability to bring up issues/concerns and collaborate with student government. 1. Sen Kimble: I agree, that is a great thing for CAN to do. That is exactly what we do right now. Monthly meetings are forums to discuss SAGA policies. Conversation back and forth. Office hours, need more help with office hours from CSO to be available during those office hours. Always someone in the office including Leslie and Josh to answer questions. 2. CSO Kadri: That is exactly what a CAN meeting is. Was member of CAN exec last year, and all we did was throw policies at them and they were bored out of
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their mind. We changed that this year and it’s been successful. What we’re doing now is exactly what you are asking us to do. xxii. Pres Bravo: Heard more about CAN today than I have before. Don’t think that is a coincidence. I’ve heard more from those who represent CAN today than I ever have before. I hope this is not the last time. Thank you. xxiii. Sen Bunnage: About moving forward, my decision to remove my name was a lot more detrimental to those who wrote it. How to move forward? xxiv. KC: Make sure any changes you all decide to be made are done in a timely manner so they are reflected in time. Want any potential candidates to fully know what they are getting into. Reach agreement of how to move forward. There is some urgency because of elections. xxv. Sen Torres: If this does not pass, will administration still be able to change? 1. Leslie: I don’t know. From SAGA’s end, if we’re paying money for stipends to students, we’re going to continue to examine how we do that. I don’t have a secret organizational chart to whip out and show you right now. Our goal is to come to something that makes sense for both orgs. Have full faith in every person in this room that we can come together and come to some kind of arrangement and that we can find leadership with them to focus on CAN especially because there has been such a huge improvement this fall. Don’t want to stop that. xxvi. AG Lynch: As chairperson of Spring Elections Board, would like to provide some context to KC’s statement. Rhe candidate declaration deadline is set for March 19th at midnight. We have a month and a half to solidify the CAN relationship to SGLC and what the CSO is to us. xxvii. CSO Kadri: I’m available if you have any questions or want to know anything more xxviii. Sen Elhalawany: Sounds like CAN is really growing, maybe add more positions to eboard? Important for CSO to stay on exec because their vote is representing all student orgs. 1. Leslie: The connection would not be gone, the position would operate alongside other CAN students as a peer. CSO trains other CAN students, coordinate meetings, other duties, time taken up that way. Goal is to have someone in office hours. xxix. Sen Bosnich: Not internally appointed, nor popularly elected. Nowhere in articles that says SGLC represents student orgs. Legislation was very carefully crafted the way it was. 1. Pres Bravo: Has been popularly elected in the past. 1. Sen Bosnich: Right now he (Aamir) has a vote on exec, is elected. He wouldn’t be elected, would be appointed by CAN eboard to SGLC. Would not be popularly elected. d. Dissolution of Community Outreach Community i. Sen Caldwell: Sen Nowak and myself are the only members left. No chair. Previously sent out affirmations and celebrated birthdays. Helped plan Greensgiving with ESO. Easier to dissolve the community and I would informally take over sending out affirmations and emails. ii. Sen Kelley: Is it a hindrance that it has a lack of people?
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1. Sen Caldwell: What the COC does should not be a committee. iii. Sen Fleisher: Would be more in favor of cutting down meetings to once a month. 1. Sen Caldwell: Doesn’t seem necessary to have more people. iv. Sen Elhalawany: So you would take on the role? 1. Sen Caldwell: I would just informally do it. v. Sen Winn: Can you briefly explain what the committee did for the new members to understand? 1. Sen Caldwell: Send out weekly affirmations, recognize birthdays, events of the week were sent out. Planning events. vi. Sen Caldwell: I move to dissolve the COC 1. COC is dissolved. vii. Sen Nowak: I move to adjourn the Senate meeting. 7. Adjourned at 6:26pm.