M.C. Quantock "Canada's Bulls" Bull Sale

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“canada’s Bulls”

Saturday, January 28, 2012 12 Noon MST Exhibition Grounds, Lloydminster, AB/SK

Red Angus Bulls

Black Angus Bulls

450 Bulls

All cattle in heated facility!

Super Baldie Bulls

Black Super Baldie Bulls

Free Beef Lunch 11 a.m.

Super Guppie Bulls

Charolais Bulls

Dehorned Hereford Bulls H-2 Bulls

... 9,300 Bulls... 43 Sales... 73% repeat customers...

Call Mac... 1-800-561-BULL (2855)

email: mcquantock@hotmail.com www.mcquantock.com Box 10888, Lloydminster, Alta. T9V 3B1

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Welcome...

850 cows later... and ready for tomorrow

For eight years we advised our customers to “lay in the weeds and wait” and to own as many cattle as they could. It was never pretty but it was survivable.

NOW we have a lean profitable, well founded cow business destined to “ROAR” for years. The market fundamentals are perfect.

Clear thinking hard nosed cattlemen figured out how to “let a cow be a cow” and take advantage of what she can do cheaply.... We’ll all make more this time around because no one will spend as much as we used to. Unlike a lot of bull producers, we’ve paid for our ranch and cows with our cows. We’re “rooted deep in the commercial reality of this business.” We’ve built a big good cowherd over time producing bulls strictly for commercial cowmen. Traditional purebred guys sell dreams... we sell reality. In 20 years our cow herd has produced in excess of 20 million dollars worth of bulls. No “smoke and mirrors”, no “trendy numbers”, no unproven sires, just the real deal.

Our bulls are good quality, all of them, well culled, they’re easy keeping, good looking, durable bulls that sire those “fancy calves the order buyers keep talking about.” Our bulls are older fall and summer born twos (22-26 months when you need them), old enough to be tough and not give trouble. Our bulls can be left with us until spring, you don’t want new bulls around till you need them, so let us look after them. Our bulls are all delivered absolutely free in Western Canada and cost shared in the East. Our bulls can be purchased sight unseen, in fact about half always are. We help select your bulls and they’re guaranteed to be what you want... “true satisfaction on arrival”. Our customers trust and confidence in us make it all possible. Our bulls are affordable – 75% sell from $1800 to $3800, almost half bring about $3000 and all sell to solid commercial cattlemen. Our bulls are guaranteed like no others... you’ll have a bull to breed your cows no matter what... hard to get better than that! As sale time approaches you can view all our bulls on video on our website or we’ll send you your very own DVD and catalogue and you can show the neighbors. In fact, it’s probably easier and simpler to buy our bulls than buying bulls locally. You get great service, the best guarantee, lots of selection and your calves will be sired by nationally known bulls.

It all helps to get them sold!

Our customers like the fact that all our cattle are managed and fed just like most all commercial cattle.

“Free DVD, Free Catalogue, Free Delivery, Great Bulls” Call Today!

Mac & Pat

Cody

Absolutely FREE Delivery

We will safely deliver each and every bull to your nearest central location in Western Canada. You have my word – we’ll work with you to get them within 30 - 50 miles of your ranch. Ontario, Quebec or the Maritimes – we’ll cost-share delivery. Talk to Mac for details.

On Dec. 10 we staged our very successful “first ever” “Canada’s Cow Sale”.

We have retained in excess of 700 purebred females to carry us into the future as our program continues to evolve.

Rest assured, we’ll still be “Canada’s Bull Supplier”... still covering the pages of the magazines in the months before our annual sale. Still covering Canada with over 450 bulls every January.

We wouldn’t miss the next decade in this business for anything in the world. “Fasten you seatbelts” the cattle business is ready to “ROAR” for years.

Lee

Mark & Robin

Tentative Delivery Routes

100 “Real Value” Bull Development...

$

Routes may change depending on bull distribution. Routes indicated are usually run twice a year — February and April. Some bulls may be interlined with other carriers where necessary.

90% of our customers use it. Let us develop your yearling and fall bulls and deliver when the weather’s nice and you’ve got room next spring.

Professionally grown out, fertile, semen-tested and delivered in the spring and all for just a hundred bucks – it’s a great deal. Development available on 2 year olds at $125. Bull delivery will be in the month of April.

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Sight Unseen Purchase Plan Buying your bulls is easy… and it’s as close as your phone…

Mac Creech, D.V.M.

I have spent 30 years working with cattlemen across Canada and together we have developed the most successful Sight Unseen Purchase Plan in the country, so successful in fact that it can sell nearly half our bulls some years.

I have done it with sincerity and integrity and the utmost respect for the customers needs and budget. We start by discussing your cows, your breeding program, and what you need to get done. When we are comfortable with each other we can work together to get you the right bulls at the right price.

While a few people sell a few bulls on the internet, I much prefer to visit with our customers, get to know them, and help them select the right bulls.

Our comprehensive catalogue and DVD will give you an accurate impression of the bulls.

After the sale I’ll personally deliver your bulls, in most cases. You must be completely satisfied on arrival or you are under no obligation to take them.

You pay for them only when they are delivered and satisfactory.

Call me anytime to get started but first read our customers’ comments.

1-800-561-2855

Thanks Mac

Our Guarantee...

- pretty darn simple In the unlikely event you have trouble... rest assured I’ll look after it right away... no hassles or disputes. If you purchase our bulls, you’ll have a bull to breed your cows no matter what happens.

We semen test all older bulls and guarantee young bulls to pass at 1 year. Simply put... they’re guaranteed to work or they’ll be replaced. We always have loaners available to help out if needed.

If you have a bull down, we’ll meet you halfway anywhere in Western Canada 24 hours a day with a replacement, because when you have trouble and you’ve got cows to breed... you need bulls, not excuses and time wasted. We recommend insurance coverage for breeding or physical injury, which can be purchased sale day.

Mac

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Older Red Angus Bulls ...what you really need!

All the good Angus traits and “no darn trouble”. Our Red Angus are developed from mainstream maternal lineage.

We’ve stared birthweight in the eye and backed it down.

Our disciplined program has for 40 years never compromised birthweight, thriftiness or vigor. We’ve bred moderate frames, good cow traits, easy keeping and light to moderate birthweights into each and every bull we sell.

Ours are reliable, predictable bulls; ideal for cross breeding with volumes of bulls for heifers and bigger stouter bulls for cows.

The offering features more older bulls than anywhere in the country, 100 Fall-born and 2-year-old bulls.

Use our red bulls to easily calve heifers and still get a “darn good calf” to sell or keep. Raise your own red angus cross replacements with the good maternal quality our bulls offer. If your cows have too much exotic, use our angus to moderate frame, make ’em easier to feed, and increase carcass quality and feeder demand.

Share and benefit from our experience and 38 years of selection, volumes of records, predictable birth weights and performance uniformity. Ranch raised Red Angus that’ll do the job, never complain, and give you no grief. 100 solid bulls, buy one or you can select uniform half brothers in volume.

“Fleshy herdbulls with thickness and length”

We sell, and deliver for free, hundreds of bulls all across the west!

Here’s what our customers say...

“Excellent quality bulls, good service after the sale. Customers well looked after.”

– C. Alhstrom, AB “Very satisfied with my sight unseen purchase from spring blow-out sale.” – R. Pringle, BC “Sight unseen program and bull were exactly as described, easier than travelling a lot of places looking for the right bull for our herd.”

– J. & B. Tripp, ON

“Big gutted Fleshy cows behind every bull”

“Calves from our H-2 bulls are very impressive.”

– W. & T. Carson, ON “We bought 2 bulls over the phone. I met Mac in Bonnyville and was very pleased. The bulls were exactly what we were told we were getting.”

– R. Ulliac, AB “Very satisfied with my sight unseen bull and very satisfied with the service. I will look to your bulls when I need another one.”

– C. Robertson “I bought sight unseen and was very satisfied.

The video was very helpful.” – D. Wray, ON

~ all Angus bulls purebred and papers transferred ~

“We are very impressed with the quality of our sight unseen H-2 bull.”

– C. & E. Baran, SK “All the bulls we have bought from you have served us well with no calving problems.”

– I. Tuttle, NS

like “peas in a pod’ light birthed... but beefy and thick

“Never personally been to the sale. Sight unseen program is a great idea – very glad we bought one of your bulls.”

– K. Lawrence “The sale was a great experience. The meal was very good. It was an honour to meet you both... just wish I needed more bulls.”

– G. Altrogge, SK “Very impressed with sight unseen. Both bulls I bought were what Mac told me they would be. Easy to handle and work with and throw good calves. I am 100% satisfied and will be buying again.”

– R. Morrow, MB “I am really pleased with the 2 bulls that I purchased last spring, can’t wait to see the calves.”

– B. Hamilton, ON “Extremely pleased with our sight unseen purchase and would not hesitate to buy this way again. Our local vet remarked “That’s one heck of a nice bull.”

– D. Parkin, SK “Mac’s bulls produce consistent, predictable calves.”

– J. Grawehr, BC

Fall Reds are the answer…

They’re bigger, stouter and tougher than the yearlings you’ll buy other places. They’ll breed more cows, (even the big ones) hold their condition, take less management and be less worry and trouble. They’ve been gently and slowly developed on grass, so they last a long time in your herd. They’ll breed circles around a yearling and they’re not the “leftovers” like most 2 year olds you’ll find. They really are the answer. “Perfect Age” bulls - 20-22 months old at breeding time. Why buy yearlings when you can have these at no more money?

“The two H-2 bulls came in off the range and they look awesome, good bulls.”

– W. Mulvahill, BC “Mac don’t change! Keep taking pride in what you are doing. Hope to get another bull from you soon.” – VanKooten Farms, MB

reliable, predictable

“Your service was great. You helped me a tremendous amount just over the phone as to what bulls you would suggest I was very satisfied.”

– D. Norman, ON “I thought one Charolais bull was not working and you replaced him promptly. We were well satisfied.” – Cayenne Ranches, AB

100 Fall-born and 2 yr. olds sell!

“Heifers all calved, haven’t seen one being born. All got up and sucked and are doing well considering the rotten weather. Nice change from the Simmental bulls.”

– D. Hoyle, AB “The bulls are excellent and we have no trouble. We run 30 bulls which are all hybrids.”

– J&G Naylen, MB

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Thick “Super Baldies” ...Red Angus x Simmental Bulls We’ve harnessed the best of both breeds. Incredibly beefy, thick bulls, they pack awesome payweight on disciplined moderate frames. They have all the convenience of Red Angus; moderate consistent birthweights (85-95 lbs. almost without exception), “easy fleshing” (they’ll hold their condition in the tough going) and on feed they’re “quick fleshers” with bold hybrid performance (4-5 lb. gains are common place). The Simmental blood gives them that essential “touch of continental muscle” you need today, as well as adding milk and growth to the blend.

Our “Super Baldie Bulls” are an industry success story over nearly 20 years.

They add milk and muscle and are “right sized” to give you no calving problems or management nightmares. Best of all, they’ll give you Red Baldie females for replacements you’ll want and need to keep. Too much exotic — they’ll beef ’em up.

You can find a few Red Angus X Simmental bulls other places... but what you cannot find is the volume, uniformity, quality, and selection potential available from M.C. Quantock.

You can spend a lifetime infusing that blend of Red Angus Simmental or you can do it “one shot” using our Super Baldies.

You’ll get beautiful “Angus Type” calves with “muscle and snap.” Your steers will top the market. Your heifers will be the envy of your neighbours.

65 Head All big falls and 2 year olds

“the perfect blend”

add “milk and muscle”

convenient, consistent ...and thick

Black “Super Baldie” Bulls...

Big, buxom February yearlings, Falls and May two year olds. The same great crossbreeding machines as our Red Super Baldies… but Black. A perfect option on Black base cows or Herefords. Blacks with a touch of exotic muscle growth and milk... all you really need to sell those market-topping Blacks. These bulls have been carving out a “niche” and carving up the competition for years.

You just can’t find ’em anywhere else.

60 bulls sell!

“Keep ’em or turn ’em black in one shot”

(Half are Falls and twos)

Balance, muscle, milk and a whole lot more!

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Beefy, big bodied Black Angus...

All the good old-time Angus traits — volume, beefiness, quick fleshing, dependable and durable.

Broad, deep, fall-born Black bulls and beefy, deepbodied 2-year-olds. Black heifer bulls. Black cow bulls. They’re black bulls like black bulls should be.

Ours are easy fleshing Black genetics, yet they still have frame and length. Just like our Red Angus, our Blacks are light at birth, then really grow when it counts. Angus convenience, the black color and no darn trouble. We’re your best Black bull opportunity. All older bulls, bigger, stouter and tougher than yearlings. Why go anywhere else. 100 powerful bulls, amazing uniformity, big groups of half brothers. Impressive and affordable.

Bulls purebred & papers transferred.

Low set herd bulls Big gutted and thick

We sell, and deliver for free, hundreds of bulls all across the west!

Here’s what our customers say...

Your Red Angus cattle have no equals or comparisons. We have tried others bulls and have not been satisfied. Keep up the good work.”

– D. & D. Brace, BC “Very impressed with how smooth and fast the sale ran, to run that many bulls in that amount of time was truly impressive.

It was also reassuring to know that you were there after the bull had been delivered to ensure that everything was OK.” – B. Wilson, SK

Fleshy, broody cows

“We needed an unexpected bull and Mac delivered an excellent bull on the day and time he said. Very nice to deal with people who respect your time.”

– Cowley’s, SK

Impressive Blacks

“Had problems with the first bull… he was replaced with a very good bull.”

– T. Ross, AB “The bulls, the sale, the service is second to none. Buying from MC Quantock for the past three years has been a hugh stepping stone for the ranch. It is always a pleasure to deal with you.”

Easy fleshing

Light at birth but thick

100 Fall-born and 2 yr. olds! broad and “big gutted”

– JV Ranch, MB

“Very pleased with the bull you picked for me. On DNA, he was homozygous TT for the leptin gene and AA for tenderness.”

– D. Dowdeswell, SK “We had problems with one of our bulls. We called Mac and he took it back and made an adjustment. We had had the bull one year. Very pleased with your service and prompt reply. I have been very satisfied.

You take a professional approach to your business.. Something that is often neglected in agriculture.”

– L. & R. Cooper, SK “Just got home with my bull, great head, real good feet and legs, clean in the shoulder and thick butt. I was nervous about this Sight Unseen Purchase thing, never done it before, I am impressed with the bull and the way you do business.”

– R. Milliken, MB “I don’t know what you do in your breeding program, but these bulls all have the same stamp on them. You can see it now in our cows… all the same - the calves are born then grow like hell.”

– C. Stahl, Riverview Colony, SK

“Very impressed with your sale. The best one I have attended in 30 years of ranching. Quality of cattle was excellent and the sale went smooth and fast I was impressed with the quality of people you have working for you and how well they worked under the stress of the day.”

– B. Howell, BC

“fleshy” “light birthed”

website... www.mcquantock.com Our complete full color catalogue and bull video will be online in January. Stay in touch for any updates and to view all our private treaty offerings. The website lists our customers cattle when available. In past years our website has sold hundreds of reputation cattle for our customers and best of all it’s a FREE Service. Watch the site all spring for private sale bulls and females. We are in the bull business all year long.

“Having purchased your bulls for many years, and keeping heifer calves as replacements, we find our cow herd has been consistently improving as the years go by. We have purchased Red Angus, Black Angus and Horned Herefords.”

– J. S. Crowley, SK “I’m 100% satisfied with the quality of the bulls I’ve bought with your Sight Unseen system. When taking delivery I’ve always felt I’ve gotten more value than I paid for.

Your integrity is appreciated.”

– M. Carr, ON

“Being able to buy a bull over the phone is great peace of mind and Mac was very easy to talk to and is very knowledgeable about his bulls. The bulls I got were perfect, it was as if I was at the sale. I am 100% satisfied and will buy again from M.C. Quantock.”

– M. Arnold, SK

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Dehorned Herefords ...broad tops, haircoats!

Established in 1951, our Hereford herd benefits from 60 years of development. Our Hereford bulls are broad topped, deep-sided bulls packed full of natural thickness on moderate frame sizes.

Trouble free... “you bet”, our Herefords have been selected for years for good udders you never have to touch, because you don’t have the time and you don’t need the hassle.

Use our Hereford bulls to add the good Hereford traits your Dad took for granted. Deep, thick hair coats, easy keepers that’ll get by without the barley bin, and dispositions that make cows a pleasure to handle - not an ordeal.

Use Herefords to add British blood to those exotic cows.

Our bulls are durable, long living, and tough.

You won’t find any “big fat ton bulls” here, but what you will find are bulls that have never seen “hot feed” and pampering. Bulls that will last and last.

Rediscover what your dad knew! Herefords work and are a pleasure to own.

Bull purebred & papers transferred.

“Our Hereford and H-2 udders are as good as Angus”

Herd bulls like this… moderate size, broad & deep.

Durable, Quiet!

All Hereford Bulls dehorned!

Hereford Fall Bulls Most Herefords are sold as big fat 2 year olds. They’ve spent way too long at the feed bunk. If you’re tired of 2 year olds that are too big, too fat and too narrow or yearlings that are barely big enough, our fall bulls are the answer.

Gently and slowly developed on pasture, easy keeping, they’ll hold their condition for life. Our fall bulls will be 20 - 22 months old at breeding, just the perfect age.

They’re mature and will do everything a 2 year old can and a darn sight more than a yearling will and best of all they’ll last and last. They’re the answer to the “Hereford Dilemma”. 25 head sell.

25 Bulls sell!

All older Falls and two’s

H-2 Bulls...

25 Bulls sell! Falls and two’s Pigment and hair

Our H-2’s are a Hereford/Fleckvieh 2-breed composite line. Real beefmakers, loaded maternally but bred to simplify and sustain the Hereford/Semi influence in our customer’s herds.

Produced on the home ranch using mid-aged proven Hereford cows and beefy, low set, pigmented Fleckvieh sires; these fall-born and 2 year old bulls really offer something unique. Enough age to breed a lot of cows, solid maternal genetics and bottom line performance. We call them “H-2’s” — they’re hummers.

These potent composite bulls are being used on Hereford x Simmental cows, as well as black, and black and red baldie cows with great success. Any way you fit them in your program they’ll make money.

These bulls just work so well, they make repeat customers out of everyone who buys one!

These bulls really work…

…past year’s customers keep coming back for more.

We sell, and deliver for free, hundreds of bulls all across the west!

Here’s what our customers say...

“Sight Unseen working well for us, as your sale was during our busy calving period. It‘s nice knowing that we had some security from you if the bull didn’t work out for us.

He’s done great and all his girls are in calf and on time.

Thanks for the bull and service.” – A. & C. Johnson, AB “Bull looked great when delivered in April, after bull development, Mac is always very helpful in finding me the right bull. Very satisfied. You are a pleasure to deal with.”

– D. Loewen, BC

“I was very satisfied as a first time buyer ‘Sight Unseen’ - you deserve a huge amount of praise for your “Pay in full when delivered and sight unseen policy. Keep up the good work.”

– D. Denis, SK “I’m really impressed with the bull you suggested. I wanted a long, deep, thick, meaty bull and that’s exactly what I got.

I’ve been to a lot of sales in MB this spring and this bull would be a high seller at any of them.” – J. Brown, MB

“It is a pleasure to do business with you. Never yet have I been disappointed with Sight Unseen purchases. Best of all, I like the temperament of your bulls and Mac’s integrity and reliability is tops with me.”

– D. Armstrong, MB “Well satisfied with my Sight Unseen purchase, no problems with him, developing into a smooth bull. Probably better that I would have chosen myself.”

– J. Lobley, AB

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“Super Guppies” ...Red Angus x Gelbvieh Bulls “Super Guppie” bulls are a great crossbreeding option.

A blended composite of Gelbvieh and Red Angus. Super Guppies have a little more “exotic muscle” than our Super Baldies but are still built from all maternal cattle. Gelbvieh have the carcass, the early sexual maturity and the growth. The Red Angus blood provides the hair, thriftiness and fleshing ability while moderating birth weight.

Use our Gelbvieh X Red Angus bulls as the third option in any crossing program and maximize your hybrid vigor.

They’re cowman’s Gelbvieh that will work the big range country and fit your management.

Our customers love a little Gelbvieh on the cow side.

Our Super Guppie Bulls have really found their stride in the past few years as our customers calve their daughters and recognize how well these bulls fit their crossing programs.

“Use ’em and you’ll love ’em!”

“more muscle... still maternal”

40 Bulls Sell! All Falls and two’s

“Chunky” Charolais Bulls...

We’re cowmen first and these are cowmen’s bulls. Our objective in Charolais bulls is to provide our customers bulls that maximize the Char cross advantage in feeder calves and minimize any problems. Our bulls are thick bulls but they are still smooth bulls. The bulls have rapid early growth which you need but as two year olds will not be too big. Our Charolais are built for the ranch trade with very moderate birthweights and unquestionable soundness — white bulls that will last and last.

We deliver what you asked for: lots of hair, so you can sell those “deep coated, good doin’” tan calves and top the market; good dispositions because we’ve all got families that help; unquestionable soundness, because some other Charolais bulls don’t last; moderate frames because some others get too big.

Our Charolais pack lots of muscle, are long bodied, smooth and not real tall. Gently grown out and sold in perfect working condition.

Charolais are still the best terminal sire for a British cross cow.

Bulls purebred & papers transferred.

Lots of tan colored bulls!

“smooth but thick” “lots of hair”

35 2 yr. olds Sell!

We sell, and deliver for free, hundreds of bulls all across the west!

Here’s what our customers say...

“Very satisfied with the bull you selected for us. We would also like to thank you for the bull you sent last year after we had bull problems. Your service has been excellent.”

– M. Grimm, BC

“It’s been a pleasure to work with M.C. Quantock. The bulls, have always worked well and we’ve progressed tremendously using your genetics. We look forward to a great future.”

– C. & M. Spilchik, SK

“I must say, I couldn’t have picked a better bull myself, so thanks – calves hit the ground running lots of vigor, the bull passed on his good disposition and conformation.”

– G. Gramlich, AB

“Long yearling (fall) Red Angus bulls are very impressive.

They were very active in the pasture and kept their condition well.”

– Gervins, MB “I like how quiet the bulls have been that we have bought in the past, have bought Sight Unseen twice now and have not been disappointed.”

–H. Nordlund, AB

“We just sold some steer calves sired by your bulls and they sold better than last year, the market likes them.”

– B. Kielo, SK “Also wanted to tell you what a pleasure it’s been to handle the bulls we bought from you. They’ve obviously been handled a lot and know what a horse is which sure isn’t the case with most bulls we’ve bought over the years.

Looking forward to seeing how the calves look!”

– J. & L. Gilberg, AB

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We’re a professional, reputable company that offers good old fashioned personal service and advice. In fact, we pride ourselves on being just far enough behind the times that our cattle are well proven and consistent. Buying the right bulls is an important part of your success.

Remember we’re here to help, it’s nice to know you can rely on us at any time for advice and help with breeding programs, management, health and marketing strategies – it’s all part of our service to our customers, from families with 20 cows to ranches with thousands.

Mac

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