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SUNDAY Vanguard, OCTOBER 1, 2017, PAGE 17

We are laying the moral and economic foundation for a new Nigeria — Odigie-Oyegun, APC Chairman Chief John Odigie-Oyegun, the National Chairman of the ruling All Progressives Congress APC, recalls, with nostalgia, fond memories of Nigeria’s independence, and promises that his party will put the country on the path of progress. By Omeize Ajayi

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HAT was it like on October 1, 1960? How did you feel? Well, I was an undergraduate. I was there for the festivities. I was there in the midnight when the Union Jack, the British flag, was lowered and the Nigerian flag hoisted. It was a most exhilarating experience. There was that building of nationalism in you. We were like ‘thank God we are free at last’, using the famous Martin Luther King’s expression. It was great. The nation was full of promise and we were confident that we were going to go places and it was a wonderful moment. A lot has been said about Nigeria’s past glory. Going forward, what can we do to restore the nation’s lost primacy? We should be upbeat and not remember negative things. Of course, at independence, we were just taking over from our colonial masters. I came into the system in 1963 and we still had a lot of them around, even the Secretary to the Federal Public Service Commission was a white lady. We had many expatriates in the Ministries, Departments and Agencies. There were standards and things went very well. I think our problem started with the military coup. I was a youth then, very young, hot-headed, energetic and adventurous. There were coups all over the place. I cannot say that when the coups happened, we did not say “hurray”, you know? We cheered them on, but looking back now, I think that was the beginning of the Nigerian problem. We have not been able to truly put things together since then. Military rule messed up our federalism, and we have not gotten out of that today because there is still that centralised approach to everything. Of course, there is this outcry about true federalism or restructuring as some seem to call it, but, at the end of the day, you would find out that they mean almost the same thing. So, with the military coups, we had young officers taking over and everything became ‘ with immediate effect’; rules were being bypassed and, you know, that is the nature of the military. Then we had the civil war with the attendant problems. The issue of short-cut to wealth started permeating the system, then the purge in the civil service which saw people introducing a totally different dimension to the civil service but, by and large, I think, as a nation, we have come quite far but definitely far short of what we should be because, as of the time I came into the service, through the Planning Ministry, I was able to compare the nation of Nigeria to countries like Brazil, South Korea, Malaysia and it was clear that, with our resource potential, with our oil and other resources, we could take care of most of our essential needs. Even by World Bank standards, one of the best places to come out of the Third World status was Nigeria. We were rated higher than Brazil and other countries but that was then. We, somewhere along the line, took the wrong step; standards collapsed and real long-term planning collapsed. Visionary leadership also collapsed and we are where we are today with all the corruption, all the lack of business standards, all the lack of ethics and what I will like to call the blurring of the difference between right and wrong. Those were the problems plaguing us and holding us back, but hope was, of course, restored with the ‘Change’ agenda of President Muhammadu Buhari and work is underway to turn the Nigerian Titanic into a very purposeful direction before it hits the rock. That is the work that the Buhari administration is doing: Salvaging the system through visionary leadership and creating a new economy for the nation based on the totality of our resources. That is serious work in progress today. Are you saying that the APC has all the answers to the problems that we have encountered since independence? Well, I do not know about having all the

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answers but, yes, we know the problem and we have solutions to the problems. The system needs drastic change in a lot of directions. We had a collapsed economy principally due to economic mismanagement and, of course, the impact of the collapse of the oil market which has not helped in the speedy climbing of the economy. That has slowed things down. Secondly, of course, there is the push back; the fight back by the forces that want business as usual which this country cannot sustain. So, yes we are upbeat, but the resources are very thin now and we are in the reconstruction period of a new and sustainable economy. We are trying to move away from a consuming economy to a producing economy. Like I said, we have to diversify our revenue source of oil, with emphasis on agriculture, solid minerals, infrastructural development and permanently solving the power problem which is a very serious one that we cannot solve in a minute. However, the

If the APC agenda is sustained, Nigeria is going to make progress in the next few years. There is no question about that because we have the natural resources foundation for long-term incremental progress in the power sector has been laid and it is now a function of increasing power generation and the ability to transmit and distribute. All of it is work in progress. So, yes, we do have solutions but they are not solutions that you can buy and just install and hope the problems would be solved, no. It involves ethical rebirth in the economy. It involves new sources of revenue. It involves our ability to feed ourselves and it also involves major infrastructural development

•Chief Odigie-Oyegun which is currently underway, particularly in the area of rail and road transportation subject, of course, to reactions, particularly on roads, from the National Assembly. So, the turnaround of the Nigerian Titanic is very much underway but it is still work in progress. While some people say restructuring is the way forward, there are others who say the country needs to return to the 1963 Constitution. Where do you stand? There are so many facets to this cry that I cannot just stand up now and tell you where I stand. As of today, I stand where the manifesto of the APC stands; and that is true federalism which involves some degree of devolution of powers and resources to the states so that they will be better able to provide infrastructure, services and development for their people. Of course, like everybody, I heard about the ideas that have been generated by the South-West, which is advocating a return to regionalism. Currently in the APC, we have a body which we set up to look at and define true federalism. They are going round the country to enrich what is in our manifesto with the actual views of the people. What do the people really want? What is in our manifesto that can be enriched by contact with stakeholders? What have we missed out? I have no doubt at this stage that some degree of return to true federalism would happen at the end of the day. When it would be, I cannot tell you, but it will happen. Will it be under the APC? I sincerely hope so because it was a major plank of our being elected. You earlier mentioned how we held so much promise than Brazil, Malaysia among others. Do you see Nigeria overtaking these countries again in the next 57 years? If the APC agenda is sustained, Nigeria is going to make progress in the next few years. There is no question about that because we have the natural resources. We have a very vibrant and innovative population and the ingredient that has been brought in by President Buhari is the visionary and incorruptible leadership and, when you put these ingredients together, it adds up to progress.

This your manifesto, if you were to place a timeline, how many years do you think it would take your party to actualize the lofty objectives as contained therein? It is difficult to say because first, I do not want to be misinterpreted to say that the APC will be in power for the next 10, 20 or 50 years. We will be in power for as long as the will of the people so decide but the trajectory that the President has set is one that has to be sustained for this nation to come out of the rot that we inherited. There is no viable alternative to reform or to change, change in the way we do business; change in our attitude to public assets or resources, change in our ethics and fundamental change in our economy. There is no end to development. It will be a continuing process. So, if you ask me how long it would take the APC, I would say development is endless but we are determined to create the economic and moral foundation for a new Nigeria; for Nigeria to make the progress and attain the destiny which God has given her. We are determined to be successful. With the APC Constitution already reviewed and awaiting ratification by the convention, there are concerns that the National Working Committee, NWC, would be granted too much powers if this document sails through. How do you allay these concerns? I cannot remember any such thing. The highest organ of the party is the convention. In the absence of the convention, the highest decision-making body is the National Executive Committee, NEC, and not the NWC whose members are just managers of the party. And that is the way it is going to be. I do not think anybody can change that. So, it is not true. When exactly is the convention? We hope the convention will hold in November. There is no tentative date yet but we are certain. The NEC and Caucus will meet next month, that is, October.


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