Even more posts on the invicta fake diamonds

samuelrz

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Originally Posted by andrea Is it that Invicta has become so large that quality control and attention to detail is not their highest priority? What do you guy's think?

Once again, QC is a business decision. You either want it or you don't. ETA supplies movements to the every major watch company and still the G10, as much as I dislike it, is a workhorse which rarely breaks down.

In Summary: 1) Quality is a conscience business decision.

2) The oldest thread that I found on this topic concerning Invicta QC was almost 10 years old.

3) Nothing will change.

Here are some recent threads in the last few months that will have every point, counterpoint for this forum. http://watchgeeks.net/showthread.php?t=91142 http://watchgeeks.net/showthread.php?t=60978 http://watchgeeks.net/showthread.php?t=106346 http://watchgeeks.net/showthread.php?t=111785 __________________

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It's over a month since I purchased this watch for my wife, and still haven't been notified by Invicta or ShopNBC, that the diamond accented watch I ordered have crystals instead. I would suggest anyone who bought this watch to have a jeweler checkout the status of the stones. It might not even cost you anything. Over 3200 of these watches were sold, so Invicta and ShopNBC will have a tough job finding the few who received the crystal version meant for a different market. In fact you might have the crystal version and not be notified at all. So it might be in your interest to have them appraised. __________________

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Your not really expecting a call are you?

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Originally Posted by X-James Your not really expecting a call are you?

In my original thread it was reported that Invicta and ShopNBC were going to jointly investigate this, and were going to notify the customers who received the non diamond version of the watch. At this point I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. I just got off the phone with my jeweler and asked him to also inspect the movement. In his appraisal it will list what the stones are and the type of movement in the watch. I'll be picking up the appraisal tomorrow. After receiving the appraisal I'll contact both Invicta and ShopNBC CS for an exchange for the diamond accented watch with the Swiss parts movement that was advertised. __________________

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Interesting...

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ukrany1 Senior Member True WatchGeek

well I for one want some answers on this, my wife has 4 Clasiques __________________

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Originally Posted by ukrany1 well I for one want some answers on this, my wife has 4 Clasiques

This is the only model I have so can't comment on any other version. __________________

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You guys will never guess who just e-mailed me thanking me for my purchase of inv. classique model blah blah blah, and would i like to write a review of my puchase ,and rate the thing......You have got to be kiddn' me!!! so I did............ don't expect to see that one anytime soon oscar1 View Public Profile Send a private message to oscar1 Send email to oscar1 Find all posts by oscar1 Add oscar1 to Your Contacts #59 Yesterday, 02:18 PM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 5,107 Real Name: Jerry

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Originally Posted by oscar1 You guys will never guess who just e-mailed me thanking me for my purchase of inv. classique model blah blah blah, and would i like to write a review of my puchase ,and rate the thing......You have got to be kiddn' me!!! so I did............ don't expect to see that one anytime soon I'll be looking for it. __________________

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Originally Posted by oscar1 You guys will never guess who just e-mailed me thanking me for my purchase of inv. classique model blah blah blah, and would i like to write a review of my puchase ,and rate the thing......You have got to be kiddn' me!!! so I did............ don't expect to see that one anytime soon LOL ... that's great! I'll be looking for it also. You should email back and ask them if they can check their records and let you know if you received one of the one's with genuine diamonds, or if yours is one of the crystal "fake" diamond versions .... see what they reply. __________________ "He who marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, for him a spinal cord would fully suffice" - Albert Einstein WatchYaThink View Public Profile

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Originally Posted by WatchYaThink LOL ... that's great! I'll be looking for it also. You should email back and ask them if they can check their records and let you know if you received one of the one's with genuine diamonds, or if yours is one of the crystal "fake" diamond versions .... see what they reply.

It was Charla!

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E-mail sent to c/s.ball in their court.lol oscar1 View Public Profile Send a private message to oscar1 Send email to oscar1 Find all posts by oscar1 Add oscar1 to Your Contacts #63 Yesterday, 03:06 PM

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Hmmmmmmmmmmm __________________ The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.

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I just checked SNBC's web site and found a product review on this watch, so it appears I'm not the only one to get the crystal stone watch. Here's the customer's review on this watch: "I bought this watch for my wife and one of the so-called diamonds fell out 1 day after it arrived. We took it to our jeweler and he advised me that this watch contained no diamonds, but that these were only crystals that were cheaper then CZ's. Shame on Invicta and ShopNBC once again. False advertsing is a crime. If you have one of these I would send it back for a full refund before your 30 day window closes." __________________

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The above ShopNBC customer made an excellent point. If you bought this watch and to determine if the stones are crystal, you should phone ShopNBC CS to extent your 30 days return window, so as to give you the needed time to have the stones inspected by a jeweler. __________________

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Just checked out WorldofWatches.com's web site and they are selling a similar model of this watch.

Invicta Women's Invicta II Diamond Accented Stainless Steel - Style or Model: 0126 http://www.worldofwatches.com/detail...iance_id=81044

Below is the one from ShopNBC Invicta II Women's Classique Boutique Quartz Diamond Accent Stainless Steel Bracelet Watch - J179607 Model# IN0132 http://www.shopnbc.com/PRODUCT/?trac...h-_-family-_-N

While similar the model numbers are different, and the stones on the T-Bars are not the same.

Maybe WOW got the the real diamond version, and ShopNBC sold the crystal version meant for the different market? __________________

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I would send a pm to " Diamond Jim " and see if he can get some info on this !! jeff meade View Public Profile Send a private message to jeff meade Find all posts by jeff meade Add jeff meade to Your Contacts #68 Today, 05:34 AM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 5,107 Real Name: Jerry

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Originally Posted by jeff meade I would send a pm to " Diamond Jim " and see if he can get some info on this !!

Jim is aware of this and commented on it in my original thread. http://watchgeeks.net/showthread.php?t=119146 __________________

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Stones Confirmed As Not Being Diamonds On My Watch

I received the jeweler's appraisal today on my Invicta II Classique Boutique watch. I will quote the section pertaining to the stones.

"The stones set around the bezel and on the band are not diamonds. They are glued in and appear to be foil back crystals." The jeweler inform me "foil back" means they put something shiny under the stones to make them sparkle more.

With this information I will now contact Invicta's and ShopNBC's customer service. I will be requesting the identical watch I originally ordered, but this time the one with real diamonds.

I also spoke with a Justin from ShopNBC customer service who was very understanding.

When I explained the situation to him and requested an extension to my return period, he extended it to August 14th. __________________

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Originally Posted by timeman I received the jeweler's appraisal today on my Invicta II Classique Boutique watch. I will quote the section pertaining to the stones.

"The stones set around the bezel and on the band are not diamonds. They are glued in and appear to be foil back crystals." The jeweler inform me "foil back" means they put something shiny under the stones to make them sparkle more.

With this information I will now contact Invicta's and ShopNBC's customer service. I will be requesting the identical watch I originally ordered, but this time the one with real diamonds. I also spoke with a Justin from ShopNBC customer service who was very understanding. When I explained the situation to him and requested an extension to my return period, he extended it to August 14th. do you really wanna risk another one from them?? sunaru View Public Profile Send a private message to sunaru Find all posts by sunaru Add sunaru to Your Contacts #71 Today, 03:08 PM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 5,107 Real Name: Jerry

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Originally Posted by sunaru do you really wanna risk another one from them??

Invicta and ShopNBC both advertised and sold three versions of this watch as having 42 diamond accents with a Swiss parts movement. Over 3200 were sold. If ShopNBC doesn't have any, then Invicta should. You think Invicta and ShopNBC would sell a watch that didn't exist? If they locate one I will ask them to inspect it first, to make sure it's the diamond version before sending it to me. __________________

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Originally Posted by timeman Invicta and ShopNBC both advertised and sold three versions of this watch as having 42 diamond accents with a Swiss parts movement. Over 3200 were sold. If ShopNBC doesn't have any, then Invicta should. You think Invicta and ShopNBC would sell a watch that didn't exist?

This is assuming that there were actually ANY of them produced that actually had real diamonds. The one person so far who reported he had real diamonds said to me via pm that he was really not that confident about that information, and he is going to take it someplace else for testing next week and will let us know.

Has there been anybody else yet who has discovered that they had genuine diamonds?

Even if there were "some" that were real, and "some" that were fake ..... how many of each were there?? how do they know who got what (IF there were any with real diamonds at all) ?? why did shop need to order Jim to not make any comments, or pass on any information ?? how come the Technical Brand Manager has nothing to say about this ??

An immediate and transparent full disclosure of ALL of the details is the only appropriate response from both Shop and Invicta. __________________ "He who marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, for him a spinal cord would fully suffice" - Albert Einstein

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Had mine checked too and yup, crystal!

And still no word from Invicta or Shop....

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Originally Posted by WatchYaThink The one person so far who reported he had real diamons said to me via pm that he was really not that confident about that information, and he is going to take it someplace else for testing next week and will let us know.

Has there been anybody else yet who has discovered that they had genuine diamonds?

Other then the case you mentioned, I have not seen anyone posting that the diamonds are real on their watch. However, watchgeeks is a small portion of the people who bought this watch. In my correspondence with Invicta and ShopNBC, I will ask them to recall the watches sold or to notify each person who purchased one, of the possibility the stones in their watch might be crystals and not diamonds. __________________

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Originally Posted by timeman Invicta and ShopNBC both advertised and sold three versions of this watch as having 42 diamond accents with a Swiss parts movement. Over 3200 were sold. If ShopNBC doesn't have any, then Invicta should. You think Invicta and ShopNBC would sell a watch that didn't exist? If they locate one I will ask them to inspect it first, to make sure it's the diamond version before sending it to me. well they sold us watches we were told where Swiss made that actually had Chinese movements in them... even after that was exposed we were still told the swiss=Swiss made.. so to answer your question given the track record yes i do think they would..

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Originally Posted by WatchYaThink This is assuming that there were actually ANY of them produced that actually had real diamonds. The one person so far who reported he had real diamonds said to me via pm that he was really not that confident about that information, and he is going to take it someplace else for testing next week and will let us know.

Has there been anybody else yet who has discovered that they had genuine diamonds?

Even if there were "some" that were real, and "some" that were fake ..... how many of each were there?? how do they know who got what (IF there were any with real diamonds at all) ?? why did shop need to order Jim to not make any comments, or pass on any information ?? how come the Technical Brand Manager has nothing to say about this ??

An immediate and transparent full disclosure of ALL of the details is the only appropriate response from both Shop and Invicta.

"immediate and transparent full disclosure of ALL of the details" there never is ever... we both know there will be no

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Got the PM from C/S assured me that under my order number, I recieved diamonds & swiss mvmt said in the advertising,but he refered to the watch as "Quartz Diamond accent Watch???????well is it is,or is it a'int. oscar1 View Public Profile Send a private message to oscar1 Send email to oscar1 Find all posts by oscar1 Add oscar1 to Your Contacts #77 Today, 04:17 PM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 5,107 Real Name: Jerry

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Originally Posted by oscar1 Got the PM from C/S assured me that under my order number, I recieved diamonds & swiss mvmt said in the advertising,but he refered to the watch as "Diamond Crystal accent Watch???????well is it is,or is it a'int.

I printed out the ShopNBC's web page before all of this discussion had started and it said nothing about crystals. It still states online nothing about crystals. In fact ShopNBC's web page still says "Invicta II Women's Classique Boutique Quartz Diamond Accent Stainless Steel Bracelet Watch - J179607".

I also just did a word search on the same web page for "crystal" and the only thing that

comes up is Crystal: Flame Fusion. __________________

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Just checked my ShopNBC "Order Review" and it states "J179607 - Invicta II Women's Classique Boutique Quartz Diamond Accent Stainless Steel Bracelet Watch". Nothing about crystals. __________________

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Originally Posted by timeman Just checked my ShopNBC "Order Review" and it states "J179607 - Invicta II Women's Classique Boutique Quartz Diamond Accent Stainless Steel Bracelet Watch". Nothing about crystals. opps,sorry your right,ckd email, I fixed my post,Thankyou.