Gibeon meteorite

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Gibeon Meteorite

Eyal just mention this is the last run of the Gibeon Meteorite. Grab grab grab. Got my Sub II wish I could afford the Sub I..

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They are in the process of securing a new source, so for those concerned, no real worries.

"Gibeon" itself is not a classification or specific type of Meteorite. Gibeon is merely the name given to the Meteorite that landed in Namibia. All meteorites are given names for the places where they are found. In this instance, this particular Meteorite landed near Gibeon, Namibia.

The Gibeon is an Octahedrite, a classification of Iron Meteorites. And, Octahedrites are the most common class of iron meteorites found, so that's good news as far as we Geeks are concerned. They are known for their crystal structure or Widmanst채tten pattern (that we have become familiar with).

Since the Gibeon is the most common form of Iron Meteorite known, obtaining a new source should prove to be very similar (if not identical) to what we currently have available.

One of the things that made the Gibeon unique, is that it was an incredibly large Meteorite, that created an incredibly large strewn field (one of the largest ones known @ 70 miles x 230 miles in size). Because of its physical size, individual specimens were quite large, some reaching nearly half a ton. Therefore it provided a tremendous source for securing & obtaining raw materials. But, that said... Meteorite in general is still a very rare & unique item.

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Thanks for the update John..I was conscerned as well about Invicta being able to secure another source for this dial material...I'm glad they have been able to do so..

Jon

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Originally Posted by Nismo They are in the process of securing a new source, so for those concerned, no real worries.

"Gibeon" itself is not a classification or specific type of Meteorite. Gibeon is merely the name given to the Meteorite that landed in Namibia. All meteorites are given names for the places where they are found. In this instance, this particular Meteorite landed near Gibeon, Namibia.

The Gibeon is an Octahedrite, a classification of Iron Meteorites. And, Octahedrites are the most common class of iron meteorites found, so that's good news as far as we Geeks are concerned. They are known for their crystal structure or Widmanst채tten pattern (that we have become familiar with).

Since the Gibeon is the most common form of Iron Meteorite known, obtaining a new source should prove to be very similar (if not identical) to what we currently have available.

One of the things that made the Gibeon unique, is that it was an incredibly large Meteorite, that created an incredibly large strewn field (one of the largest ones known @ 70 miles x 230 miles in size). Because of its physical size, individual specimens were quite large, some reaching nearly half a ton. Therefore it provided a tremendous source for securing & obtaining raw materials. But, that said... Meteorite in general is still a very rare & unique item. __________________

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Thank You Professor NISMO! Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo They are in the process of securing a new source, so for those concerned, no real worries.

"Gibeon" itself is not a classification or specific type of Meteorite. Gibeon is merely the name given to the Meteorite that landed in Namibia. All meteorites are given names for the places where they are found. In this instance, this particular Meteorite landed near Gibeon, Namibia.

The Gibeon is an Octahedrite, a classification of Iron Meteorites. And, Octahedrites are the most common class of iron meteorites found, so that's good news as far as we Geeks are concerned. They are known for their crystal structure or Widmanst채tten pattern (that we have become familiar with).

Since the Gibeon is the most common form of Iron Meteorite known, obtaining a new source should prove to be very similar (if not identical) to what we currently have available.

One of the things that made the Gibeon unique, is that it was an incredibly large Meteorite, that created an incredibly large strewn field (one of the largest ones known @ 70 miles x 230 miles in size). Because of its physical size, individual specimens were quite large, some reaching nearly half a ton. Therefore it provided a tremendous source for securing & obtaining raw materials. But, that said... Meteorite in general is still a very rare & unique item. __________________

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Gibson Meteorite

I am curious as to why the relationship with Invicta and Gibeon has ended?

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I would also mention, that the Widmanstätten pattern has sometimes been referred to as "scratches" (as in, the meteorite gets scratched up, when entering the earth's atmosphere).

That's not the actually the case. Without getting too technical, the (eventual) Widmanstätten pattern is the result of heated iron & nickel combining to form a new alloy (when the parent Asteroid was originally formed millions or billions of years ago). The Asteroid then cools very, very, very slowly.... over 10's of millions of years (while still in space). The (long crystals) of kamacite & taenite lattice structure within the iron alloy is formed as a result of the extremely sloooow cooling, under zero gravity conditions. This unique Widmanstätten pattern is only found in iron meteorites & cannot be created on earth or reproduced in the laboratory. The Gibeon Meteorite, (as I referred to above in post #2), is classified as a "Fine" Octahedrite Iron Meteorite. In total, there are 6 individual classifications for Octahedrite Iron Meteorites, basically ranging from Coarse to Fine.

The Widmanstätten pattern itself, only becomes visible when the meteorites are cut, polished, and acid etched. The process is named after Count Alois von Beckh Widmanstätten, who in 1808, heated sliced meteorite & discovered the differentiation as the various iron alloys oxidized at different rates. Acid etching further enhances the process by removing the patina left via oxidation. The end result are the unique striations we are now familiar with.

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About 4 billion years old that struck the earth around 30,000 years ago in Namibia south Africa. __________________

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Originally Posted by Nismo They are in the process of securing a new source, so for those concerned, no real worries.

"Gibeon" itself is not a classification or specific type of Meteorite. Gibeon is merely the name given to the Meteorite that landed in Namibia. All meteorites are given names for the places where they are found. In this instance, this particular Meteorite landed near Gibeon, Namibia.

The Gibeon is an Octahedrite, a classification of Iron Meteorites. And, Octahedrites are the most common class of iron meteorites found, so that's good news as far as we Geeks are concerned. They are known for their crystal structure or Widmanst채tten pattern (that we have become familiar with).

Since the Gibeon is the most common form of Iron Meteorite known, obtaining a new source should prove to be very similar (if not identical) to what we currently have available.

One of the things that made the Gibeon unique, is that it was an incredibly large Meteorite, that created an incredibly large strewn field (one of the largest ones known @ 70 miles x 230 miles in size). Because of its physical size, individual specimens were quite large, some reaching nearly half a ton. Therefore it provided a tremendous source for securing & obtaining raw materials. But, that said... Meteorite in general is still a very rare & unique item.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo They are in the process of securing a new source, so for those concerned, no real worries.

"Gibeon" itself is not a classification or specific type of Meteorite. Gibeon is merely the name given to the Meteorite that landed in Namibia. All meteorites are given names for the places where they are found. In this instance, this particular Meteorite landed near Gibeon, Namibia.

The Gibeon is an Octahedrite, a classification of Iron Meteorites. And, Octahedrites are the most common class of iron meteorites found, so that's good news as far as we Geeks are concerned. They are known for their crystal structure or Widmanst채tten pattern (that we have become familiar with).

Since the Gibeon is the most common form of Iron Meteorite known, obtaining a new source should prove to be very similar (if not identical) to what we currently have available.

One of the things that made the Gibeon unique, is that it was an incredibly large Meteorite, that created an incredibly large strewn field (one of the largest ones known @ 70 miles x 230 miles in size). Because of its physical size, individual specimens were quite large, some reaching nearly half a ton. Therefore it provided a tremendous source for securing & obtaining raw materials. But, that said... Meteorite in general is still a very rare & unique item.

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I think I heard someone mention that they have a potential new source in Norway.

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I'm just happy that I still have the potential to add one to my collection someday. __________________ It's time for a new watch!

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Originally Posted by Wotan

I think I heard someone mention that they have a potential new source in Norway.

Heard them mention last night that they had a new source but didn't hear where. __________________

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Originally Posted by timeman Heard them mention last night that they had a new source but didn't hear where.

Paul is correct, (while nothing official has been presented, being so early things could change), but Eyal has mentioned Norway is the new source.

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Thanks Nismo for the information on the new Meteorite Dials. I was looking at the Sub 1 ans 11. The dials showed no scratches or variations and looked like a silver color.

I want to buy one, but was hesitant due to new material. I have been wanting one for many years, finally saved enough$$$ for one!!!!!! __________________ I'd rather be watching!!!

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Originally Posted by Gliss47 Thanks Nismo for the information on the new Meteorite Dials. I was looking at the Sub 1 ans 11. The dials showed no scratches or variations and looked like a silver color.

I want to buy one, but was hesitant due to new material. I have been wanting one for many years, finally saved enough$$$ for one!!!!!!

(Gliss), safe to say the current Invicta stock... still uses Gibeon Meteorite. The SAN I & SAN II inventory have both been in production for quite some time. And (as I understand it), the new source Meteorite has not even entered production & I imagine it will be some time well into 2013 before we should see them. So all existing stock should still be Gibeon meteorite (SAN-I, SAN-II, SAN-III, SAIV, Lupah).

As for the Shop's images... the meteorite dial will "reflect" the surrounding environment. In a controlled studio setting (such as the Shop), complete with white background & lights... the

dial will take on a brighter (less contrasting) appearance. But when placed in a different setting, with darker elements... it will absorb & reflect darker elements... which in turn will produce a more pronounced dial. Under general everyday conditions... it will "shimmer" very similar to 925 Sterling Silver, as it moves on your wrist. So in essence, it's rather hard to gauge the dial (pro or con) just based off the Shop's pics.

Here's a good example of how the Meteorite dial changes up, I shot both of these pics under different lighting conditions... using the exact same watch:

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I was surprised to hear that Gibeon meteorite will NOT be used in the future. Hopefully this translates to lower prices for us consumers. __________________ Honey Badger Don't Care video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg TheMatrix View Public Profile Send a private message to TheMatrix Send email to TheMatrix Find all posts by TheMatrix Add TheMatrix to Your Contacts #18 12-17-2012, 01:11 PM

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Thanks Nismo for sharing. The information is fascinating.

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Thanks again Nismo for all the information you have provided me and other members!!! You seem very knowledgeable on Meteorite.

Plus, thanks for the two pictures to show how the dial changes with light conditions.

On the web page the dial looks just like the first picture. That was what made me leary about buying it. What a difference in the 2nd picture@!!!!!!! WOW!!

I think I will buy one now, while they are still available.

Thanks Again Gliss __________________ I'd rather be watching!!!

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Originally Posted by Gliss47 .....I think I will buy one now, while they are still available.

Thanks Again Gliss Good to hear, hope you were able to score a one. Congrats!

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Thanks for the info and picts. kdubs View Public Profile Send a private message to kdubs Find all posts by kdubs Add kdubs to Your Contacts #24 12-18-2012, 09:27 PM

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Thank you so much Professor Nismo.

I feel much more informed about meteorites and meteorite dials. Always love new information.

One question Professor ... Do you know if the Widmanst채tten pattern or striations are more pronounced in the Gibeon Meteorite than other Octahedrite Meteorites? Just concerned if future sources will have the same appearance as the Gibeon.

OK, one more question. Since the Gibeon source was such a large field, and future sources are likely to be smaller, would you expect prices to increase or stay similar to current

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Wow! I`m learning so much. Thanks for the info., about the last run. I need the IV and the V Meteorite dials.