I am just going to say by darth neo

I'm just gonna say it...

Author Anomaly Xtreme Team

Message Subject: I'm just gonna say it...

08, 2010 1:18 pm

Fri Oct

Maybe having an Xtreme Zone early on, then taking it down for a while upset some people, they left and never came back...

But I have noticed, that since the Xtreme Zone HAS come back, it's XTREMELY slow in here...

Wonder why that is?

Posts: 5808 Join date: 2009-1114 Age: 46 Location: Tampa, Florida

Is it POSSIBLY because those of us here have MUCH more fun, even if that means we don't post 50 times a day, enjoying the watches we have rather than bitching about a company whose watches we will NEVER buy?

I have always said it's not about the NUMBER of members here and I STILL maintain that thought. I would rather have 10 visitors a day posting the watch they are wearing, a new one they are buying, a new strap or whatever, posting something about a watch they enjoy rather than 100 members a day ranting about how much a certain watch company sucks, again, when they have NO intention of ever buy a watch from said company. And sure there will be issues discussed sometime, look at my own run of bad luck with watches lately, but these types of post don't dominate our threads here.

This isn't to start a forum war, people are free to go and post anywhere they like, but I just don't get it.

I wish Invicta would go down if for no other reason than to see what would be talked about if they were gone...

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Chris S. Xtreme Member

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

08, 2010 1:39 pm

Fri Oct

There are enough negatives in most peoples daily lives ,

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pacifichrono Xtreme Member

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

08, 2010 2:49 pm

Fri Oct

Dunno, Alan. XMT is still one of my favorite places to hang out. ____________________________________ "Get off my bumper, dork!"

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Anomaly Xtreme Team

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Oct 08, 2010 3:00 pm

Fri

pacifichrono wrote: Dunno, Alan. XMT is still one of my favorite places to hang out.

And we like you hanging out here!

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sixtysix Xtreme Member

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:05 pm I Did not notice the Xtreme Zone was gone or came back.....not my thing. I post 90% of my stuff here now (and only here) so I consider this my home forum. People left? Oh well F-them who cares. ____________________________________ Later, Gary

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barnbuilder Xtreme Team

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:11 pm I would rather quit forums altogether than talk about shop watches, the idiots who sell them and what the geeks are talking about every hour. I see a few Invicta topics worth talking about, the rest is a complete and utter waste of time and has no real essential value except for the bullshit factor and a few laughs. but that's just my opinion.

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cali kid Xtreme Member

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Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

2010 6:38 pm

Fri Oct 08,

its a good read at times and personally cant wait to see what happens, other than that its damn funny at times but whatever floats a guys boat is all that matters! I feel a handful of guys have taken invicta and shop to the woodshed and have found many lies and deceptions that the buying public should know about!

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Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Oct 08, 2010 6:58 pm

Fri

We all know my patented reply to all of it... ____________________________________

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jaw Xtreme Member

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:31 pm It is what it is.

I still consider myself a watch forum newbie and from what I can tell these forums tend to evolve into what the members/mods/sponsors want them to be.

I've noticed that the Owners/Mods at WL must work extra hard to inject "real" Posts: 1052 watch talk/info (good stuff BTW), into the daily vitriol there. But many of these Join date: 2010-01- posts seem to go unanswered. I suspect this is likely due to membership 06 preference towards the Shop/Invicta slam of the day. That too may change over Age: 55 time.

Like Trevor I too can't wait to see where it all ends up, nor can I deny the entertainment value. Also agree with Ron's take on it. Funny as hell at times.

And while my participation there has increased, I still consider this my home forum.

Despite the slow down in the XMT Xtreme section I'm glad it's here when I need it.

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AtomicTom Xtreme Optimist Posts: 4669 Join date: 2009-0825 Age: 39 Location: New Jersey

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

2010 9:45 pm

Fri Oct 08,

I think the key is to simply enjoy this hobby, along with other people who also enjoy this hobby !

It's basically about having fun in the end, and realizing that we are lucky to be able to talk with eachother about a terrific hobby here. Whether we agree or disagree on certain things is all part of it. However, noone should get upset enough to leave in my opinion. No matter what day it is, or what the topic is, I know I am grateful to be here talking with you guys. I wish everyone who left for whatever reason felt the same way, because we all REALLY enjoy this hobby, and life is way too short to be upset with friends ! ..In any case, just wanted to say this, and that I feel unbelievably fortunate to be able to talk here with friends ! ____________________________________

25or6to4 Xtreme Member

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:37 pm

I don't think it has anything to do with having an Extreme Zone to rant n' rave in.....unless I've missed something, I haven't seen much bashing of the pissPosts: 326 yellow box lately.....course, I was locked up in a friggin' convention center in Join date: 2009-07Las Vegas the past few days...

10 Location: Ventura, I actually like the Zone, if for no other reason than, like anything else, talking California only about watches can get kinda boring after a while.

The site's gonna ebb and flow. Don't worry, it'll find its way.

Streetboss Xtreme Member

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:01 am Allan,

Posts: 24 Join date: 2009-0617 Age: 54 Location: Gladstone,Oregon

I stayed away for awhile and recently started coming back. I cant tell you why but I think this has a different feel to it these days and it isn't bad. If you want a cheap laugh you go to one of the other forums. If you want to read about tv watches and their hosts, there is another forum out there to go check out.

I prefer coming here these days because my taste in watches has evolved.

When I started buying watches, it was like an arms race, I have become a lot more particular. Now that I am spending my watch money more carefully, I find a lot of knowledgable people in here. JMHO Kevin

Anomaly Xtreme Team

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Oct 09, 2010 2:07 am

Sat

Streetboss wrote: Allan, I stayed away for awhile and recently started coming back. I cant tell you why but I think this has a different feel to it these days and it isn't bad. If you want a cheap laugh you go to one of the other forums. If you want to read about tv watches and their hosts, there is another forum out there to go check out.

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I prefer coming here these days because my taste in watches has evolved. When I started buying watches, it was like an arms race, I have become a lot more particular. Now that I am spending my watch money more carefully, I find a lot of knowledgable people in here.

JMHO Kevin

Well I'll take that as a compliment Kevin...THANKS! ____________________________________

pacifichrono Xtreme Member

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:44 am

Being the watch snob that I am, I spend little to no time at forums that feature Shop/Invicta/TV watches. I just have zero interest in those types of watches.

Don't want to see them...don't want to read about them.

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Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Oct 09, 2010 4:54 am

Sat

pacifichrono wrote: Being the watch snob that I am, I spend little to no time at forums that feature Shop/Invicta/TV watches. I just have zero interest in those types of watches. Don't want to see them...don't want to read about

them.

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Anomaly Xtreme Team

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Oct 09, 2010 2:50 pm I do want to be CLEAR on this...

Sat

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...if you have Invictas (or any brand for that matter) you enjoy and still like buying them, XMT is all for it and we want to see ANY watch that you ENJOY as a collector!

As JAW, Budabear, and others will attest, we don't give anyone any grief for what they like...(plus Jaw could probably kick my ass!)

We even rip on some gay looking G-shocks...LMAO! Posts: 5808 Join date: 2009-1114 Age: 46 Location: Tampa, Florida

Time Bandit Xtreme Member

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Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:05 pm Anomaly wrote: We even rip on some gay looking G-shocks...LMAO!

Shouldn't that be ghey?

Posts: 45 Join date: 2010-01But I digress, 16 I look at the topic this way. If you sell fake diamonds, fake sandstone, market Age: 49 your chinese watches as Swiss Made, make watches with gray market DD Location: Kansas movements and tell the world that you've worked closesly with DD, and on and on and on, WELL, you shouldn't be surprised when you are called out about continual lying.

Some might call WL's members -obsessed.

I call them Bullshit Detector's.

That's my feeling on this.

Anomaly Xtreme Team

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Oct 09, 2010 11:53 pm

Sat

Time Bandit wrote: Anomaly wrote: We even rip on some gay looking G-shocks...LMAO! Shouldn't that be ghey?

But I digress, I look at the topic this way. If you sell fake diamonds, fake sandstone, market your chinese watches as Swiss Made, make watches with gray market DD movements and tell the world that you've worked closesly with DD, and on and on and on, WELL, you shouldn't be surprised when you are called out about continual lying.

Posts: 5808 Join date: 2009-1114 Age: 46 Location: Tampa, Florida

Some might call WL's members -obsessed.

I call them Bullshit Detector's.

That's my feeling on this.

I get that to a POINT...

But we are talking about WATCHES, not about a company making products that give you cancer, that kill children, not lies that threaten national security...LMFAO AND.........................................................

99% of those that bitch about it daily will NEVER EVER EVER EVER buy an Invicta... ____________________________________

Time Bandit Xtreme Member

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Oct 10, 2010 12:05 am

Sun

Anomaly wrote: 99% of those that bitch about it daily will NEVER EVER EVER EVER buy an Invicta...

Posts: 45 Join date: 2010-0116 Age: 49 Location: Kansas

I think those of us that bitch about it feel like they have been burned not only

by Invicta, but by WG. I know that I was drinking the Kool-Aid and thought that MD and JS were my pals.

I thought WG's were my pals.

When the shit hit the fan, I started asking questions, then I was labeled a "Grumpy User" and was banned by my pals.

It still leaves a bad taste in my mouth, about the whole episode.

Plus, there's a weekly debacle to entertain.

Will Invicta ever be brought to the fire for their misdeeds?

I don't know, but I say this to Invicta, Yippee ki-yay, motherfuckers!

cali kid Xtreme Member

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

10, 2010 12:08 am

Sun Oct

you're right Alan, so dont let it bother you! Think some feel they are righting wrongs and if thats what they want out of a watch forum more power to them.

Thats the great thing about this hobby, there are a ton of choices of forums to visit and they all serve a different purpose.

Some of the guys at WL's have shed light on alot of outright lies and deceit and Posts: 4796 have changed the way shop shows certain watches and how they represent Join date: 2009-06- them, thats what they have to offer the watch world! I will never buy an invicta 18 watch but i do like to know about all the lies, its no different than you showing Age: 48 us watches that none of us can afford, so we will never own a watch from those Location: monterey companies! county ca.

Its just best to leave the stuff at the forum when i go visiting another, i always play by the rules of forum i'm visiting! thats how i feel about it. ____________________________________

Anomaly Xtreme Team

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Oct 10, 2010 1:14 am

Sun

cali kid wrote: you're right Alan, so dont let it bother you! Think some feel they are righting wrongs and if thats what they want out of a watch forum more power to them. Thats the great thing about this hobby, there are a ton of choices of forums to visit and they all serve a different purpose.

Some of the guys at WL's have shed light on alot of outright lies and deceit and have changed the way shop shows certain watches and how they represent them, thats what they have to offer the watch world! I

Posts: 5808 Join date: 2009-1114 Age: 46 Location: Tampa, Florida

will never buy an invicta watch but i do like to know about all the lies, its no different than you showing us watches that none of us can afford, so we will never own a watch from those companies!

Its just best to leave the stuff at the forum when i go visiting another, i always play by the rules of forum i'm visiting! thats how i feel about it.

Again, I get it to a POINT...

But what does being able to AFFORD it have to do with it?

I'm pretty sure we all look at art we can't afford...

Cars we can't afford...

TV's, stereos, and you name it we can't afford...

I think there is a difference in APPRECIATING something you may never be able to afford VS SAVING THE WORLD from something you never have an intention to buy or recommend that anyone buy...

I mean how many times ad naseum is it funny to hear MD is a Drunk, JS is an assclown, and INVICTA lies about their watches...

It's like being SURPRISED at seeing Rue Paul dress as a woman ____________________________________

cali kid Xtreme Member

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

10, 2010 1:44 am

Sun Oct

She's not a woman! ____________________________________ Posts: 4796 Join date: 2009-0618 Age: 48

Location: monterey county ca.

jaw Xtreme Member

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:19 am Time Bandit wrote: Anomaly wrote: 99% of those that bitch about it daily will NEVER EVER EVER EVER buy an Invicta...

Posts: 1052 Join date: 2010-0106 Age: 55

I think those of us that bitch about it feel like they have been burned not only by Invicta, but by WG. I know that I was drinking the Kool-Aid and thought that MD and JS were my pals.

I thought WG's were my pals.

When the shit hit the fan, I started asking questions, then I was labeled a "Grumpy User" and was banned by my pals.

It still leaves a bad taste in my mouth, about the whole episode.

Plus, there's a weekly debacle to entertain.

Will Invicta ever be brought to the fire for their misdeeds?

I don't know, but I say this to Invicta, Yippee ki-yay, motherfuckers!

I agree - This is the draw of WL. The hope for some glimpse of retribution.

Each report gives all the wronged geeks a small sense of karmic satisfaction (me included).

And we stay tuned or check-in for any news of the final blow - albeit a slim long shot.

Anomaly wrote:

Again, I get it to a POINT...

But what does being able to AFFORD it have to do with it?

I'm pretty sure we all look at art we can't afford...

Cars we can't afford...

TV's, stereos, and you name it we can't afford...

I think there is a difference in APPRECIATING something you may never be able to afford VS SAVING THE WORLD from something you never have an intention to buy or recommend that anyone buy...

I mean how many times ad naseum is it funny to hear MD is a Drunk, JS is an assclown, and INVICTA lies about their watches...

It's like being SURPRISED at seeing Rue Paul dress as a woman

Probably until Invicta has been completely exposed beyond repair (pun intended).

Which of course may never happen - Slime has a way of surviving the elements.

Still, one can dream.

So, no big mystery to me as to why it has some appeal.

Like I said - It is what it is.

Anomaly Xtreme Team

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Oct 10, 2010 3:27 am

Sun

Well like Trevor said, different strokes for different folks. I hope this thread don't run anyone off, after all...

Isn't this what the Zone is for? ____________________________________

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jaw Xtreme Member

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

10, 2010 3:45 am

Sun Oct

Nope I'm still here.

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Time Bandit Xtreme Member

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

10, 2010 3:47 am

Sun Oct

Testing, 1,2,3 Nope, you didn't ban me yet.

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Anomaly Xtreme Team

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Oct 10, 2010 4:10 am

Sun

Time Bandit wrote: Testing, 1,2,3 Nope, you didn't ban me yet.

No way dude, (we) don't have to agree on EVERYTHING to hang out Posts: 5808 Join date: 2009-11- ____________________________________ 14 Age: 46 Location: Tampa, Florida

Northwestguy Xtreme Member

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:31 pm cali kid wrote: you're right Alan, so dont let it bother you! Think some feel they are righting wrongs and if thats what they want out of a watch forum more power to them. Thats the great thing about this hobby, there are a ton of choices of forums to visit and they all serve a different purpose.

Some of the guys at WL's have shed light on alot of outright lies and deceit and have changed the way shop shows certain watches and how they represent them, thats what they have to offer the watch world! I will never buy an invicta watch but i do like to know about all the lies,

Posts: 1585 Join date: 2009-0713 Location: OREGON

its no different than you showing us watches that none of us can afford, so we will never own a watch from those companies!

Its just best to leave the stuff at the forum when i go visiting another, i always play by the rules of forum i'm visiting! thats how i feel about it.

I agree with Trevor................attend the forums you want, join in where you want, respect the home you visit and all should be fine. I like having the Xtreme Zone. I may not post there often but I like having the opportunity to do so. ____________________________________ JOHN

koimaster Xtreme Member Posts: 1 Join date: 2010-0729

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it... Yesterday at 5:58 am interesting thread. thanks for the viewpoints. I suggest that if WL offends you, stay away. Nothing more to say on the subject.

Anomaly Xtreme Team

Subject: Re: I'm just gonna say it...

Yesterday at 12:51 pm koimaster wrote: interesting thread. thanks for the viewpoints. I suggest that if WL offends you, stay away. Nothing more to say on the subject.

This is the Xtreme Zone so we are supposed to be able to say what we feel without running anyone off, so...

Offend?

Posts: 5808 Join date: 2009-1114 Age: 46 Location: Tampa, Florida

No, that's not the word...

Nothing against you Alain, I think you are a nice guy and have TONS of watch knowledge when you stay away from the redundancy of Invicta's "why does this surprise you anymore" exploits...

As I said before, I would LOVE to see you shut Invicta down if only to see what your members would discuss if it and its representatives were no longer around... ____________________________________