josephmacias1 Member Member Geek
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Invicta hate squad Well let me start my post by saying this is not a "HATE" post towards invicta or anyone in this forum. I know that like every other forum we have our issues with certain brands etc... but we keep it formal without trying to bash each others heads in two,Now i do not post very much not becouse i don't want to but becouse i don't have the time. I do however love to read and sometimes i find myself reading all the interesting posts that come from all the watchgeeks in the forum. I find that i have learned more about watches etc... reading about what others think of a brand,movement,price and this includes other threads that have nothing to do with watches.Well in saying all that "WATCHGEEKS" is the first forum that i have ever joined until 2 days ago.I have nothing to hide so i will put the initials of the forum which so many of you probably already know "WL". I registered to be a member,i got excepted and was truthful in the way that i stated that i belonged to another forum "WATCHGEEKS" and then the sloughter began, Not even 5 minutes into the sight posters began saying i was a troll that i was a Jim Skelton and Mike davis lover and some other CRAP I really can't say at this time so i will just leave it as a PG rating for now.I can only tell you after a few choice words i felt like it was time for me to go. Some of the garbage that goes down there has nothing to do with watches or anything thing else. Some are just there to talk S..T and nothing else. Well i just wanted to say that you really don't know how good you have it here, it could be worse alot worse.So i'm happy to be back to my first and only forum. Thankyou for reading.
josephmacias1 #2 01-12-2011, 05:17 PM watchayla1 Senior Member Master WatchGeek
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Thanks for sharing. Nothing we haven't heard....but it helps remind me personally to keep the focus when I am on this forum on WATCHES and, whenever I can, the JOY I get from WATCHES. __________________ "I am tired of being asked to pretend stupid is a virtue." ucdavisboy ucdavisboy ucdavisboy ucdavisboy #4 01-12-2011, 05:18 PM Leed24 Senior Member Super Geek
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there all a bunch of funny little men,who got beat up as a kid.that's there way of having fun now.there also a bunch of followers too.now there going to take this post & post it all over there site.F'them & there leader. __________________
soberdave09 soberdave09 soberdave09 soberdave09 soberdave09 #6 01-12-2011, 05:22 PM Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,290 AZinNJ Senior Member Super Geek
This is a civilized place, and watchgeeks are accepting of all brands..And on top of that the community here is extremely helpful and knowledgeable..And we are all here because we LOVE our timepieces regardless of the Brand...Sadly it's no surprise how you were treated at the "WL" forum... AZinNJ AZinNJ AZinNJ AZinNJ AZinNJ #7
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I'm a newbie and don't know anything about WL. I'm curious. How do I reach and read them? noreve noreve noreve noreve #8 01-12-2011, 05:28 PM
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Welcome back Joseph. Take the good and ignore the bad. Look forward to your posts. Hope you have a good week. bkacher1063 bkacher1063 bkacher1063 bkacher1063 #10 01-12-2011, 05:37 PM
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#12 01-12-2011, 05:40 PM Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,743 kramer5150 Senior Member Super Geek
Yes, it is something many of us have experienced first hand as well. Thankfully this here is a forum where differences in opinion are tolerated and also welcomed. FWIW I don't know Mike Davis or Jim S personally... so I am neutral on that one, and I often politely disagree with their opinions too. Anyhow... welcome to WG brother
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welcome bck as well...i still dont get how other forums think we are all invcta people or
whatever,we talk about any and every thing here,so people love to T.S. on line...I THINK IT IS BALLESS,im just saying. __________________ TRUCKMAN gimino3 gimino3 gimino3 gimino3 #14 01-12-2011, 05:41 PM Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: san jose ca Posts: 96 Real Name: bill
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I singed up over there lasted about a week bunch of crybabies and winers who needs it and I told them so. bill silversparks silversparks silversparks silversparks #15 01-12-2011, 05:43 PM
jwin66 Senior Member Veteran Geek
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First off I would like to say Welcome to WatchGeeks. As for the haters on those forums you speak of I do not give their grievances much creedence. Most of the members on those
forums have been burned one time to many and have decided to spend their lives waging a Vendetta against the company that did them wrong. Invicta does have its share of problems, but it will take more than someones diatribe against Invicta to keep me from buying more Invicta watches in the future. "Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear" Jon __________________
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Quote: Originally Posted by soberdave09 there all a bunch of funny little men,who got beat up as a kid.that's there way of having fun now.there also a bunch of followers too.now there going to take this post & post it all over there site.F'them & there leader. Right On Dave! bioya58 bioya58 bioya58 bioya58 #18 01-12-2011, 05:46 PM Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,290 AZinNJ Senior Member Super Geek
Quote: Originally Posted by gimino3 welcome bck as well...i still dont get how other forums think we are all invcta people or whatever,we talk about any and every thing here,so people love to T.S. on line...I THINK IT IS BALLESS,im just saying. Ball-less indeed! AZinNJ AZinNJ AZinNJ AZinNJ AZinNJ #19 01-12-2011, 05:47 PM
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Joesph life is short and no time for hate here!!!!! Gregg Gregg Gregg Gregg #20 01-12-2011, 05:50 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by soberdave09 there all a bunch of funny little men,who got beat up as a kid.that's there way of having fun now.there also a bunch of followers too.now there going to take this post & post it all over there site.F'them & there leader.
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Have heard ALOT about 'other' forums saying bad things about invicta and this forum .. and heard over here at this forum.
Never been to any other forum , do not need to and do not want to ... Happy here !!! Enjoy your stay here ... Faisal Anwar Faisal Anwar Faisal Anwar Faisal Anwar Faisal Anwar #23 01-12-2011, 06:02 PM Herbie13 Senior Member Veteran Geek
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Thanks for the info. Sorry you had to run into people like that, but glad you're back home with us. This was also my first watch forum. I joined just as I began my interest in watches. Because of all the great people here, and all that I have learned and continue to learn, I have never given a second thought to even testing another forum. Thanks to all the hard work of the owners, mods, administrators and other members this is the only place I call home for my watch passion. Keep the posts coming! Herbie13 Herbie13 Herbie13 Herbie13 #24 01-12-2011, 06:05 PM dean71 Senior Member Senior Geek
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I don't always like Invicta as a company, but I wear one to work everyday. Invicta Elite I bought 8 years ago. Just bought another on ebay. Rosegold, silver dial. Looks brand new. Hope you
enjoy this forum! dean71 dean71 dean71 dean71 dean71 #25 01-12-2011, 06:06 PM PUCKSK8R Senior Member Master WatchGeek
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Well it has been over 30 years since I was in elementary school and that behavior reminds me of such actions. I am not going to bash any one site or those individuals as if this is how they chose to live their lives, then so be it. I joined here not because I was a fan of Invicta, but to have a comfy environment to learn about this great hobby without being criticized for what I like. I have gained some real friends here thru thick and thin. This place has been a safe haven for me. I have been an active member for almost three years and will continue so because this is a place I call home. __________________ Class...Quelle heure est il? - Madame Eno (My 8th grade French Teacher) josephmacias1 Member Member Geek
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When I am doing Google searches for certain watch related items I find myself on some of the other forums and I can't help but to laugh at the hate that gets spewed on them. ZERO posts of substance there. __________________ Buy what you like, wear what you love. No one else matters. thanthalin thanthalin thanthalin thanthalin #28 01-12-2011, 06:17 PM
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Welcome back Joseph and I guess it goes like this here- and I LIKE IT. NO PROBLEM in criticizing a brand or person- but it has to be BALANCED and TRUTHFUL. If I own 30 Invicta's (insert you number here) and I have a problem with one that Invicta CS screws up on- THE SKY IS NOT FALLING AND INVICTA IS NOT A CRAP COMPANY BECAUSE OF IT. Jim Skelton is not a Invicta Shill because of it- Mike Davis is not a liar because of it! (Truth is for me I have bought and sold and own over 40 with but ONE problem they fixed in less than 30 days- amazing QC for me personally) It needs to be brought up and see if anything can be done but... Nothing should deteriorate into bashing as it does on other sites that I have seen. AND further more I have seen posts where Jim and Mike have personally intervened to make things right for some fellow geek (CUSTOMER) kudos to them and it keeps me being a member.
If people want controversy and bashing- there are plenty of sites to go to-I hope this never deteriorates into that. __________________ The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. ...Alexis de Tocqueville after travelling to America 1834 Z4MC Z4MC Z4MC Z4MC #30 01-12-2011, 06:20 PM
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aquacleaner' aquacleaner aquacleaner #31 01-12-2011, 06:22 PM WLLYb Senior Member Senior Geek
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This is why we are here and not there. I was in it for a few days before I joined WG...could not handle the negativity. This is a great family... __________________ Android|Invicta|NFW|SL|Rotary|SO|Croton|Renato "As far as it depends upon YOU, be at peace with ALL men." Ap. Paul
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Quote: Originally Posted by soberdave09 there all a bunch of funny little men,who got beat up as a kid.that's there way of having fun now.there also a bunch of followers too.now there going to take this post & post it all over there site.F'them & there leader. +1 Dave. __________________
So many watches to wear, so little time. redcad redcad redcad redcad #36 01-12-2011, 06:31 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by rjones1994 It is great to be an adult. That is what makes WG what it is. +1 tempusviator tempusviator tempusviator tempusviator #37 01-12-2011, 06:32 PM josephmacias1 Member Member Geek
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I guess that got some people doing covert acts becouse my post already got to them. "FUNNY".... josephmacias1 josephmacias1 josephmacias1 josephmacias1 #38 01-12-2011, 07:46 PM
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LOL,it's on there site already.the funny thing is they said we called them out.ain't that some dumb sh-t.what are they in jr.high.i think i'll meet them after school & staighten this out.LOL.they are a bunch of scary guys,especially that mr.fish.LOL,he's there leader & general of there cool army.LOL __________________
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Different strokes for different folks Bigmac Bigmac Bigmac Bigmac #40 01-12-2011, 07:55 PM
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Pick just about any topic or hobby and you are likely to find the same type of situation. Motorcycles, cars, RCs, anything. There is always a site where technical knowledge and gathering for a positive purpose creates jealousy and seems to bring together that element you saw on the other site. Call it human nature or some unexplained flaw in our genetics. Go figure. Once I found WG I knew I did not need to belong elsewhere as far as watches were concerned. Very simple: You can get with this or you can get with that, you can get with this or you can get with that! WatchingU WatchingU WatchingU
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I dont understand where there coming from. All I know is ive been collecting just over a yr and have purchased alot of Invictas and only had truble with 1 and Rebecca had me taken care of in 3 days. I went over to that site just to see and couldnt believe what was said. Not worth my time. I'm not sure where you can go that the site is sponcerd by Jim Micheal and Invicta andthey let you descussed about all the brands and other things we talk about. This is the ONLY site I belong to. reserveman reserveman reserveman reserveman reserveman #42 01-12-2011, 08:11 PM Councilman Rock Senior Member Super Geek
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Councilman Rock Councilman Rock #43 01-12-2011, 08:23 PM RipitRon Senior Member Master WatchGeek
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They do make me laugh over there, can you imagine living your life trying too screw people over. Once you think about that scenario imagine being a follower like the rest of the sheep over there. I can not fathom following any one person like those people over there. But again I guess "Everybody needs something to believe in" it kind of reminds me of the Jim Jones cult over there. I guess I could only hope for the same outcome. Oooooops did I just say that? LOL
__________________ Hmmmmmmm. I can't say what I want to say! RipitRon RipitRon RipitRon RipitRon #44 01-12-2011, 08:24 PM
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Good move! Just a bunch of hate going on over there. They need to get a life! Ron is right just a bunch of sheep! __________________
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#46 01-12-2011, 08:33 PM
ingoodtime Senior Member Super Geek
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True...when contacted and when they have the time, Jim and Mike can make all the difference. Quote: Originally Posted by Z4MC Welcome back Joseph and I guess it goes like this here- and I LIKE IT. NO PROBLEM in criticizing a brand or person- but it has to be BALANCED and TRUTHFUL. If I own 30 Invicta's (insert you number here) and I have a problem with one that Invicta CS screws up on- THE SKY IS NOT FALLING AND INVICTA IS NOT A CRAP COMPANY BECAUSE OF IT. Jim Skelton is not a Invicta Shill because of it- Mike Davis is not a liar because of it! (Truth is for me I have bought and sold and own over 40 with but ONE problem they fixed in less than 30 days- amazing QC for me personally) It needs to be brought up and see if anything can be done but... Nothing should deteriorate into bashing as it does on other sites that I have seen. AND further more I have seen posts where Jim and Mike have personally intervened to make things right for some fellow geek (CUSTOMER) kudos to them and it keeps me being a
member. If people want controversy and bashing- there are plenty of sites to go to-I hope this never deteriorates into that. __________________ Lee ingoodtime
#47 01-12-2011, 08:41 PM
CHUCK WAGON Senior Member Super Geek
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I read one of these threads every other day....perhaps you should do a search before ing another unnecessary post about this issue. It does nothing more than spawn debate that serves no purpose...IMHO. CHUCK WAGON
#48 01-12-2011, 08:55 PM chitown Senior Member Super Geek
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Well Welcome Back. These guys are just jealous because thier IQ matches thier age, n thier wives gave them the nickname of Stubby, because they are short ofcourse. chitown
#49 01-12-2011, 09:02 PM
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Taxg8r00 Senior Member Senior Geek
I think a lot of us have taken a look at the other site. What is funny is that they think everyone here is an Invicta apologist, which is the farthest thing from the truth. I have seen some posters here with huge post counts call out Invica on several issues. I like Invicta and own a couple and admit that the company could do better in certain areas based upon what I have seen and read. That being said I think the biggest problem with that other site is the personal vendetta a lot of posters have against Invicta, its owner, ShopNBC and Jim and Mike. I just want to know who held a gun to their head and made them purchase watches? Taxg8r00
#50 01-12-2011, 09:06 PM
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I for one do not know how anybody can call Mike D. a liar; anybody who uses helium before talking on a national TV show is alright in my book! Do it again! __________________
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Yeah but it's uncensored and you can say dirty words,Beavis and Butthead would be proud. I checked it out on a number of occasions and really didn't learn much about watches. Learned some fancy new words though. I'll let those cats make a mess in their own litter box, but they sure have trouble dealing with this playground. To each their own. They say we are all sheep, but their small membership seems to be the one with the all consuming need to agree with each other. There are some very knowledgeable people there who have been on watch forums for years so it's a free country they deserve their place to vent, I'll pass I prefer a more civil place to hang out, there's enough negative crap in the world that I prefer my favorite hobby to be a peaceful, relaxing respite from my chaotic life. If my hobby gets me that cranked up then it's not worth my free time. curiousgeorge
#52 01-12-2011, 09:11 PM
swissmade59 Senior Member Super Geek
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I'm not a follower ,when I wear my Invicta in gas station or restaurant 7 out of 10 time someone will make a comet on watch. swissmade59
#53 01-12-2011, 09:30 PM
SeaVulture Senior Member Master WatchGeek
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mmmm..... Yummy! Just what I was lookin' for. A dead carp to chow down on..... Some people call them koi, but they're just bottom feeding carp... nothin' special, but an acquired taste all the same. We're really not supposed to eat them, 'cause their nasty. But, what's a Vulture to do?
Sorry you had to go there and endure the inhumanity of the wicked, Joseph. The good news is that you're here, and we are glad to have you. Again... Welcome to the fold!
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#54 01-12-2011, 09:34 PM RipitRon Senior Member Master WatchGeek
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Is it my monitor or does Jim Jones look like a rotting Carp? __________________ Hmmmmmmm. I can't say what I want to say! RipitRon
#55 01-12-2011, 09:47 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by RipitRon Is it my monitor or does Jim Jones look like a rotting Carp? Belly Up, With His Tail Chewed Off.... __________________
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#56 01-12-2011, 09:48 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by RipitRon Is it my monitor or does Jim Jones look like a rotting Carp? not the monitor....if it is then we both have the same one __________________
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Quote: Originally Posted by CHUCK WAGON I read one of these threads every other day....perhaps you should do a search before ing another unnecessary post about this issue. It does nothing more than spawn debate that serves no purpose...IMHO. I couldn't agree more. It seems that the people starting threads about this are just looking for acceptance and they get it by prodding the vulgar and ignorant comments that they accuse others of. trip_67
#58 01-12-2011, 09:55 PM
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Sometimes the "Dark Side" rears its head ... welcome back and post more ...
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#59 01-12-2011, 09:56 PM RipitRon Senior Member Master WatchGeek
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A little dose of their own medicine doesnt hurt a damn thing Boyz, so chill a bit! __________________ Hmmmmmmm. I can't say what I want to say! RipitRon RipitRon RipitRon RipitRon #60 01-12-2011, 10:07 PM
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Too Funny!! __________________
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#61 01-12-2011, 10:45 PM
Ghostrider21 Senior Member Senior Geek
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Quote: Originally Posted by Herbie13 Thanks for the info. Sorry you had to run into people like that, but glad you're back home with us. This was also my first watch forum. I joined just as I began my interest in watches. Because of all the great people here, and all that I have learned and continue to learn, I have never given a second thought to even testing another forum. Thanks to all the hard work of the owners, mods, administrators and other members this is the only place I call home for my watch passion. Keep the posts coming!
+ 1. Could not have said this better. Quite similar experience. __________________
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#62 01-12-2011, 10:51 PM
watchmaven51 Senior Member Super Geek
Welcome back Joseph. The grass is always green here at WatchGeeks!! __________________ MAY THE LUME BE WITH YOU! Another Day! .. Another Watch!
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#63 01-12-2011, 11:13 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by soberdave09 LOL,it's on there site already.the funny thing is they said we called them out.ain't that some dumb sh-t.what are they in jr.high.i think i'll meet them after school & staighten this out.LOL.they are a bunch of scary guys,especially that mr.fish.LOL,he's there leader & general of there cool army.LOL Careful Dave. They might bring their big brother with them. Kind of ironic that this site was started as a sort of antithesis of those kind of forums, yet they now use things we do and say here to feed their vitriol. Oh well. Live and let live. (Anyone over there ever heard that one?) __________________
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#64 01-12-2011, 11:43 PM daycoo2 Senior Member Master WatchGeek
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#65 01-13-2011, 12:07 AM Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 205 ironman2092 Senior Member Senior Geek
Let me just say that a friend of mine told me about that "WL" forum sometime ago and he told me what went on and i went and saw it for myself it was pure craziness.Is really sad to see some people going so far with hate and pure anarchy just to hurt somebody .That forum owner and his clowns hate Jim and Eyal with such passion that the focus is not on watches at all .Im not pro Jim or Eyal and invicta is not even my brand of choice but let me say this i think Mr.Skelton might have enough grounds to punch that guy in the face or sue him . ironman2092
#66 01-13-2011, 12:45 AM mosc Senior Member Senior Geek
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Joe, I would imagine that in life, without the ability to compare, we would never have a guage to measure what we have. I have seen these posts about this other website. The internet is like the ocean, an abyss of the unknown in some aspects. Watch geeks is a community of artist's, who collect, discuss, and create, an art museum, if you will, of fellow watch geek art collection and analysis, of appreciation. That being, each member of the community, and their collection, their choices of engines, and complications and desires of brand, and attributes of timepiece equipment. Passion exists here, for opinion, desire and honest opinion of a given timepiece, style, or price wrapped in size of timepiece as well. I am puzzled but not surprized by other sites where the," Lord Of The flies," mentality is alive and well. I guess it's human nature, or a form of fear by others, as this community is civil, fun, mind expanding in thought patterns, and contemplation of new ideas, and improvement of existing idea's. Enjoy yourself here and feel secure in knowing, that here we are all in a museum of horological beauty, and elsewhere, I imagine, a prize fight seems to exist. I'll opt for the museum, I guess you like the museum of art as well. Look forward to your interactions, posts, and threads. __________________
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#68 01-13-2011, 06:13 AM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 1,700 Real Name: Bruce
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I'm not standing up for WL, which I don't belong to...but it doesn't take a lot of reading on that site to realize that it's unabashedly anti-WG...so why would anyone go there, join, and then announce that you're a Watchgeek? Before you join another forum, maybe you oughta do your homework first. This is really no different than going onto, say, a Ford forum and announcing that you're a Chevy lover. Sorry, but it just doesn't make any sense. HeavyChevy
#69 01-13-2011, 07:35 AM
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Now you know why I have my signature jbocon jbocon jbocon jbocon jbocon #70 01-13-2011, 08:10 AM josephmacias1 Member Member Geek
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Let me just say to the ones that think i made this post for acceptance or anything else,come on now i graduated high school years ago. I made the post becouse of the experiance of it all, i made it for the general public and the "NEWBEES" that are coming to this forum becouse i still consider myself a "NEWBEE" when it comes down to watches and forums. I wanted to let the public know that we at watchgeeks have it pretty good. Now must of the time we really do not know the person behind the post but if you knew me you would understand that i'm neither a follower or as some members put it need "ACCEPTANCE". Thank you one and all. josephmacias1 josephmacias1 josephmacias1 josephmacias1 #71 01-13-2011, 08:15 AM josephmacias1 Member Member Geek
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Quote: Originally Posted by HeavyChevy I'm not standing up for WL, which I don't belong to...but it doesn't take a lot of reading on
that site to realize that it's unabashedly anti-WG...so why would anyone go there, join, and then announce that you're a Watchgeek? Before you join another forum, maybe you oughta do your homework first. This is really no different than going onto, say, a Ford forum and announcing that you're a Chevy lover. Sorry, but it just doesn't make any sense. It's simple really what don't you understand or what doesn't make sense to you. I don't need to lie to anyone and i don't need to hide. There always going to be negative posts but i didn't know it was that bad over there. See is really very simple so i hope you understand. josephmacias1 josephmacias1 josephmacias1 josephmacias1 #72 01-13-2011, 08:18 AM Geoffrey_Thorpe Senior Member Senior Geek
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Jeez.. Oprah doesn't have as much drama. The fact that some people feel the need to say "look what I stepped in and let me tell you how you can step into too" is silly. Geoffrey_Thorpe Geoffrey_Thorpe Geoffrey_Thorpe Geoffrey_Thorpe #73 01-13-2011, 08:23 AM josephmacias1 Member Member Geek
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Oprah doesn't have as much drama. The fact that some people feel the need to say "look what I stepped in and let me tell you how you can step into too" is silly. Silly to you but may not be silly to others.But thankyou for your wise opinion josephmacias1 josephmacias1 josephmacias1 josephmacias1 #74 01-13-2011, 08:28 AM strutn45 Senior Member True WatchGeek
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Opinion... Quote: Originally Posted by Geoffrey_Thorpe Oprah doesn't have as much drama. The fact that some people feel the need to say "look what I stepped in and let me tell you how you can step into too" is silly. Don't watch Oprah so i couldn't tell ya, never have...never will, thanks for the heads up though. __________________
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Quote: Originally Posted by Geoffrey_Thorpe Oprah doesn't have as much drama. The fact that some people feel the need to say "look what I stepped in and let me tell you how you can step into too" is silly. Interesting observation " Totally irrelevant though" __________________ Hmmmmmmm. I can't say what I want to say! CrazyOzzy Member Member Geek
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Nothing but love for Invicta!! Over 65 pieces and counting. CrazyOzzy CrazyOzzy CrazyOzzy CrazyOzzy CrazyOzzy #77 01-13-2011, 09:34 AM Panda03Bear Senior Member True WatchGeek
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I'm a newbie and don't know anything about WL. I'm curious. How do I reach and read them? i wont say anything too negative, but wl is a site mostly composed of former members here who were banned for one reason or another. i was shocked to read some fo the things they say about everyone here, even innocent members who have never had a bad thing to say about any of them personally. the site is not worth ing, very little watch talk goes on. it is mostly hating on JS, Michael and WGs, and of course Invicta. if you become a member there, you will most likely be banned or warned here as the two sites cannot really coexist without turmoil. just an FYI __________________
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Panda03Bear Panda03Bear Panda03Bear Panda03Bear Panda03Bear #78 01-13-2011, 09:50 AM
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...if you become a member there, you will most likely be banned or warned here as the two sites cannot really coexist without turmoil. just an FYI === Well... If that is the case, then I am VERY GLAD to be here at WatchGeeks.net. I haven't figured out the new, let me call it, "cyber anthropology," as to why some people on some Forums get into flaming and super hurtful behavior that they probably wouldn't do if they were in the same room. On the caricature side of things, there were a couple of guys that flamed themselves so badly that real friendships got damaged permanently. Flaming out of control, I feel, is akin to bullying. I know someone who talks like, "Bevis & Butthead." I know 'cause I asked him to back down his swearing I bit when we met in public. He said, "I am saying nothing worse than Bevis & Butthead would." I said to myself, "Oh, God, help us!!" Meantime, Joseph, you can relax and enjoy yourself here. The MOD(erators) do a great job. The ONLY reason my watch collecting hobby has grown is because of the direct and friendly help I have received here. And info I can share back is my payback to the kindness given me. Have fun. __________________ " The BEST gift to give is your time to others. Especially reading to kids."
#79 01-13-2011, 10:20 AM
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PEACE TO ALL the B the B the B the B #80 01-13-2011, 10:39 AM new2watches Senior Member Senior Geek
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Put me in the confused and don't understand category as to what your expectations were when you joined WL? As other posters have indicated the two forums are about as diametrically opposed as they can be. Look at the responses that members here have made about them and we all (or most all) know how the WL members and owner feel about this place, JS, MD, Invicta, Shop etc. Unless you went there to just look, and not participate with posts, there was no way it could have lasted. If you supported WG in your posts or got into verbal sparring matches of course you would be viewed as a troll, the same would happen to a WL member that would join here and start airing their opinions in support of WL, they would be run out of here pronto! Sometimes one needs to stay out of certain playgrounds, otherwise the bullies will gather. my 0.5 cents. new2watches new2watches
new2watches new2watches #81 01-13-2011, 10:52 AM erictrumpet Senior Member Super Geek
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Yes, that "other" site is a very negative place. HOWEVER... there are several responses in this thread, right here on our beloved friendly WatchGeeks forum, that are nearly as bad as what is posted daily over there. I'm talking about the dead fish posts in this thread. Those posts are not funny, and they are down at the same level as what is posted at WL. Please don't stoop to that level! Eric. __________________
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I usually don't get involved in this stuff, but allow me to try to be a voice of reason..... My only point here is: Who cares what anyone says? I think too many here are too sensitive. These are just blogs, for heaven's sake. It's when people try to make these things into something they aren't that makes the trouble begin. On a personal level, criticism is part of my game. As a few of you know, I'm a singer and have a few albums out nationally. They all were reviewed in national publications, and a couple of the reviews weren't all the kind - in fact, one was pretty vicious. But I always harken back to what a fellow singer once told me: "It doesn't matter what was in the review, as long as they spell the name right." I've lived by that credo ever since. I think most people believe I'm a nice guy, but you can't please everybody. Plus, I'm very happy with my personal life and professional accomplishments, and I don't need a website or a watch brand to validate my existence. Aren't we supposed to be talking about watches? I think more than a few people need to take a chill pill and start to enjoy the hobby again instead of making it some kind of end-all and be-all. As we say in the blues, crazy, man, crazy! Bahoomba Bahoomba Bahoomba #83 01-13-2011, 11:24 AM RipitRon Senior Member Master WatchGeek
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Quote: Originally Posted by erictrumpet Yes, that "other" site is a very negative place. HOWEVER... there are several responses in this thread, right here on our beloved friendly WatchGeeks forum, that are nearly as bad as what is posted daily over there. I'm talking about the dead fish posts in this thread. Those posts are not funny, and they are down at the same level as what is posted at WL. Please don't stoop to that level! Eric. I agree not funny for some, but down right hilarious for others!!! LOL __________________
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bahoomba I usually don't get involved in this stuff, but allow me to try to be a voice of reason..... My only point here is: Who cares what anyone says? I think too many here are too sensitive. These are just blogs, for heaven's sake. It's when people try to make these things into something they aren't that makes the trouble begin. On a personal level, criticism is part of my game. As a few of you know, I'm a singer and have a few albums out nationally. They all were reviewed in national publications, and a couple of the reviews weren't all the kind - in fact, one was pretty vicious. But I always harken back to what a fellow singer once told me: "It doesn't matter what was in the review, as long as they spell the name right." I've lived by that credo ever since. I think most people believe I'm a nice guy, but you can't please everybody. Plus, I'm very happy with my personal life and professional accomplishments, and I don't need a website or a watch brand to validate my existence. Aren't we supposed to be talking about watches? I think more than a few people need to take a chill pill and start to enjoy the hobby again instead of making it some kind of end-all and beall. As we say in the blues, crazy, man, crazy!
If it was just all talk I would agree with you to a certain extent but it is not , certain
people made it personal and did things that went way above forum words. It is not my place to say anymore but trust me you do not know the half of it. __________________
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Can someone please post what forum is called "WL" (or PM me)? Thanks! invictaisthebestwatch invictaisthebestwatch invictaisthebestwatch invictaisthebestwatch #86
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Quote: Originally Posted by Chief68
If it was just all talk I would agree with you to a certain extent but it is not , certain people made it personal and did things that went way above forum words. It is not my place to say anymore but trust me you do not know the half of it. That is where things get out of line. Look, we all know the internet is filled with haters, bashers, and the like. Some of them just get a charge out of trying to rile up a crowd. But, to take it to a personal level as evidently they have is at least libelous. It is unfortunate... kenshabby kenshabby kenshabby kenshabby #87 01-13-2011, 01:35 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bahoomba Aren't we supposed to be talking about watches? I think more than a few people need to take a chill pill and start to enjoy the hobby again instead of making it some kind of end-all and beall. As we say in the blues, crazy, man, crazy!
I agree 100% We are here to talk about watches.. Why lower ourselves to their level & bring attention to this small forum of haters... __________________
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Do it again! +1 !!! rjaybass rjaybass rjaybass rjaybass rjaybass #89 01-13-2011, 01:46 PM trip_67 Senior Member Senior Geek
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What I've gotten out of this thread (and several other threads posted about this lately) is, don't other sites because they bash us. Why venture out when one can see bashing done right here? It's o.k here though, becasue we are better. It's o.k if we do the bashing and act like the very thing we accuse others of. It's all clear to me now, thanks. I'm going to rush right out and join a "hater" group so I can get my feelings hurt, then come back here and start a thread about it so I can be accepted here, stir the pot and sit back and watch members here turn into "haters". trip_67 trip_67 trip_67 trip_67 #90 01-13-2011, 01:50 PM Bahoomba Senior Member Super Geek
Allison, A great point. Well done.
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Bahoomba Bahoomba Bahoomba #91 01-13-2011, 02:00 PM josephmacias1 Member Member Geek
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Quote: Originally Posted by trip_67 What I've gotten out of this thread (and several other threads posted about this lately) is, don't other sites because they bash us. Why venture out when one can see bashing done right here? It's o.k here though, becasue we are better. It's o.k if we do the bashing and act like the very thing we accuse others of. It's all clear to me now, thanks. I'm going to rush right out and join a "hater" group so I can get my feelings hurt, then come back here and start a thread about it so I can be accepted here, stir the pot and sit back and watch members here turn into "haters". Apparently you're either not reading what i said or full of hot air. It was not meant to bash anyone or be accepted by anyone. Read the post before thinking or knowing what a person is feeling.Sometimes you learn more just being quiet! josephmacias1 josephmacias1 josephmacias1 josephmacias1 #92 01-13-2011, 02:03 PM jakisbck Member Member Geek
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Dont understand why the poster even wrote this I dont get the whole thing at all. Why would the poster go over to another site put out that he's from a site that they disagree with then come back and complain that he went over to said site and that they were talking about us over there ?
Sounds like he has done the very samething that he claims the other site does. That would be like me starting out in a club, army, group, crew, professing im in with said like crew, leave to join another crew and spout out yeah I belong to that crew knowing full well that most crews dont get along anyway and expect to get some sympathy. Come on man your wrong. This whole thing you couldve kept to yourself instead of letting it out spewing more hatred and kaiosk (sp?) just saying jakisbck jakisbck jakisbck jakisbck #93 01-13-2011, 02:08 PM trip_67 Senior Member Senior Geek
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Quote: Originally Posted by josephmacias1 Apparently you're either not reading what i said or full of hot air. It was not meant to bash anyone or be accepted by anyone. Read the post before thinking or knowing what a person is feeling.Sometimes you learn more just being quiet! Had you just been quiet and done a search, you would have learned that these threads have been started before and serve no purpose. None of this would be happening had you just been quiet. trip_67 trip_67 trip_67 trip_67 #94 01-13-2011, 02:08 PM josephmacias1 Member Member Geek
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Quote: Originally Posted by jakisbck I dont get the whole thing at all. Why would the poster go over to another site put out that he's from a site that they disagree with then come back and complain that he went over to said site and that they were talking about us over there ? Sounds like he has done the very samething that he claims the other site does. That would be like me starting out in a club, army, group, crew, professing im in with said like crew, leave to join another crew and spout out yeah I belong to that crew knowing full well that most crews dont get along anyway and expect to get some sympathy. Come on man your wrong. This whole thing you couldve kept to yourself instead of letting it out spewing more hatred and kaiosk (sp?) just saying Man are you sure you're a "WATCHGEEK" just saying. josephmacias1 josephmacias1 josephmacias1 josephmacias1 #95 01-13-2011, 02:11 PM RipitRon Senior Member Master WatchGeek
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The man was giving us a description of his experience over there nothing more, and nothing less. Only now are those trolls enjoying this thread, because a selected few have decided Joseph is in the wrong. Unreal! __________________ Hmmmmmmm. I can't say what I want to say! RipitRon RipitRon RipitRon RipitRon
#96 01-13-2011, 02:13 PM RipitRon Senior Member Master WatchGeek
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Joseph I would suggest you request to have this thread shut down, to end the existing redicule you are facing for no apparent reason. Just a thought. __________________ Hmmmmmmm. I can't say what I want to say! RipitRon RipitRon RipitRon RipitRon #97 01-13-2011, 02:15 PM strutn45 Senior Member True WatchGeek fishy... phew!
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Okay Ladies and Gentlemen ,I think we have just about covered this and before
it turns Nasty , I am CLOSING it. __________________
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