Invicta not goning the extra mile

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Bigjay66 Senior Member Senior Geek

Not goning the extra mile

First of all I love Invicta watches. The first watch I brought from shopnbc in 2004 was Invicta. So here me out.

I want to know why don't Invicta go the extra mile on the PD. I brought the three hand PD reserve automatic with the SW 200, and diamond marker as a TTV couple of months ago. I thought this was one of the best Invicta PD I have every brought until I looked on the side and the Invicata name was not engraved. I also brought the PD reserve 7750 last weekend (Goldtone) as TTV and I thought it was great except for the rotor which did not illustrate the amount of jewel about the movement, and it look cheap. I did like the machine work on the rotor and the movement. Also the PD 7750 did not come with the day window, which Invicat provides on all of their other 7750 watches.

I think if invicta stop trying to produce so many model and focus on the quality and presentation of the watch, verse having so many show, more people would stay in love with them verse searching for another brand to buy.

I am a fan, and I just want the best Invicta can provide at a nice price. The Second Invicat watch I brought back on 2004 was the RD with mechanical ETA movement withthe open heart at the 9 o'clock.

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Leed24

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Unfortunately we agree to disagree on this subject. I could care less that the number of jewels is on the caseback, and I totally disagree that the PD 7750 watch looked cheap. Just my opinion, but I do not care whether the watch says the day of the week or not, I personally know what day it is. Sorry you are unhappy. We just agree to disagree on this subject. __________________

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Not arguing, but just a point to clarify... Invicta rarely uses the day indication on their 7750's. It's purely a design choice (how the designer wants the dial to look), and less than half of the 7750's Invicta has used have actually had the day window there.

The typical engraving found on the rotor (the info you detailed) is no longer there when the Elabore has been applied (the decoration seen on this model).

Just trying to help... __________________

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Originally Posted by Leed24 Unfortunately we agree to disagree on this subject. I could care less that the number of jewels is on the caseback, and I totally disagree that the PD 7750 watch looked cheap. Just my opinion, but I do not care whether the watch says the day of the week or not, I personally know what day it is. Sorry you are unhappy. We just agree to disagree on this subject.

I do not feel the entire watch looks cheap. Iwhat I said look cheap is the back of rhe watch. I am not here to go back in forth with anyone. Just stating the obvious.

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Originally Posted by jskelton Not arguing, but just a point to clarify... Invicta rarely uses the day indication on their 7750's. It's purely a design choice (how the designer wants the dial to look), and less than half of the 7750's Invicta has used have actually had the day window there.

The typical engraving found on the rotor (the info you detailed) is no longer there when the Elabore has been applied (the decoration seen on this model).

Just trying to help...

Thank You Jim. when I look at the Subqua Noma's with the 7750, I that's what I think about a 7750. I did do some research and found that the 7750 comes in different version.http://www.chronomaddox.com/valjoux_7750_engine.html Bigjay66 View Public Profile Send a private message to Bigjay66 Send email to Bigjay66 Find all posts by Bigjay66 Add Bigjay66 to Your Contacts #6 Yesterday, 10:37 PM Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 15,204 Real Name: "Diamond Jim" Skelton

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Yes, the 7750 has been offered in a multitude of variations from Valjoux/ETA as well as extensive modifications by Soprod, Sellita and other custom houses, and of course in-house modifications for special series watches through the years. __________________

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curiousgeorge Senior Member Master WatchGeek

Since most Invicta Pro Divers are an homage(Invicta does these better then just about everyone) to Rolex, having the day instead of the cyclops covered date would look wrong.

Since Rolex almost always uses a cyclops and date, never a day, date that's where the design cues come from. The Invicta PD7750 is a great looking example of what Invicta can do, for a price point not many can touch. Many here have removed the cyclops which for them makes it look cleaner, but kind of unbalances the dial. Everyones taste or preferences are different, but this wasn't cost cutting, it was definitely design cues. curiousgeorge View Public Profile Send a private message to curiousgeorge Find all posts by curiousgeorge Add curiousgeorge to Your Contacts #8 Today, 04:10 AM Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Morgantown WV Posts: 12,973 Real Name: Tommy

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Originally Posted by curiousgeorge Since most Invicta Pro Divers are an homage(Invicta does these better then just about everyone) to Rolex, having the day instead of the cyclops covered date would look wrong.

Since Rolex almost always uses a cyclops and date, never a day, date that's where the design cues come from. The Invicta PD7750 is a great looking example of what Invicta can

do, for a price point not many can touch.

I assumed that was the reasoning behind it as well.

I personally don't care for the name engraved on the side of the case either, but it is an extra touch.

As far as having the jewel count on the rotor, it's "neat", but I'd much rather see the elabore and not the jewel count (since it's an either/or type thing). tkromer View Public Profile Send a private message to tkromer Send email to tkromer Find all posts by tkromer Add tkromer to Your Contacts #9 Today, 04:18 AM Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: durham nc.

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i don't care for the name engraved on this side of the case at all,this is one reason i like this version jmho jlovesseconds View Public Profile Send a private message to jlovesseconds Send email to jlovesseconds Find all posts by jlovesseconds Add jlovesseconds to Your Contacts #10 Today, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigjay66 I do not feel the entire watch looks cheap. Iwhat I said look cheap is the back of rhe watch.

I am not here to go back in forth with anyone. Just stating the obvious.

Jerald, I respect your opinion. I am not trying to argue with you at all. We just do not agree on this subject. __________________

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I like it just fine its not a problem with the day missing as far as Im concered just more to look out.

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sandman20 Senior Member Super Geek

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I would have liked the day on my PD for no other reason than I like the look of the day/date combo for the 7750 movement. I have one other watch with the 7750 and it does have the day/date. However, I know there are many watches that are way more expensive than the PD that also don't have a day due to the dial layout. So it's not to save money all the time, it's just design. Anyway, I couldn't be any happier my new PD day of the week or not. sandman20 View Public Profile Send a private message to sandman20 Find all posts by sandman20 Add sandman20 to Your Contacts #13 Today, 10:58 AM

BabyDoc Senior Member Veteran Geek

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I have no problem with the Day of the week dial missing on this watch. I have two other Invicta 7750's, the SAS and the SAN 4 that do have the day window, but both are missing the Elabore decorations.

I also have a Venom Valgrange, based on the 7750, that has a fully decorated movement, but is missing the day wheel. I have a COSC limited edition Dragon Lupah with a decorated

movement, that is also missing the day wheel. Do I see a pattern here? It looks like you rarely get both the decorations and the day wheel.

Whether a watch has decorations or a day wheel seems to have little to do with how expensive the watch is. How cheap a watch looks is a matter of opinion, but probably needs to be based on other criteria, other than missing the day wheel.

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Bigjay66 Senior Member Senior Geek

Thank You all for your response. This was very constructive and we as watch geeks should be able to agree or disagree with one another without getting upset. I think we have accomplish, thank you for your opinions.

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That was a nice ending to the discussion. Thank you - Bigjay66. __________________ "The definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different outcome." Freud.