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abduksion Senior Member True WatchGeek

Please don't hate me for asking these two questions

1) I'm just curious, is Invicta going to only make Reserve Time Pieces? I know they still make some non Reserve, but I've noticed more Reserve Time Pieces then non Reserve Time Pieces?

2) How Come Invicta never gold plates their Two-Tone Watches? Take the PD 7750 twotone? I can understand a $100 or even $ 400 PD, but not one that retails for $2,000+.

Just don't answer with hate towards me, I know Invicta is popular but I just had to ask. __________________

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They make WAY more non Reserve pieces Kevin and i don't understand the 2nd question. __________________

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To answer your second question,I don't know of any company in todays economy who's not cutting corners somewhere.plus its a way to keep the price down for the buyers,You wouldn't want to pay what you did on a reserve three years ago now. desert rex View Public Profile Send a private message to desert rex Find all posts by desert rex Add desert rex to Your Contacts

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abduksion Senior Member True WatchGeek

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Originally Posted by 50mm&up They make WAY more non Reserve pieces Kevin and i don't understand the 2nd question.

I mean when they make a two tone watch, how come they can't plate the back of the bracelet? I know in order to do that the watch would have to be solid gold, like the Rolex Submariner for example. I know their two totally different watches with two price points.

Maybe I'm just a watch Snob. I think if they plated their two tone Reserve Pieces it would set them apart further away from the non Reserve. God I hope I made sense, I sometimes have trouble putting things into words. Also maybe its just me who notices more Reserve pieces??? __________________

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Originally Posted by desert rex To answer your second question,I don't know of any company in todays economy who's not cutting corners somewhere.plus its a way to keep the price down for the buyers,You wouldn't want to pay what you did on a reserve three years ago now.

I was 99 no 100% shore I was gonna get the Three Hand Excursion with the Black MOP dial, a few weeks ago until the hands fell off, I guess they did cut corners there lol. But I moved on maybe next time. __________________

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NG111 Senior Member Master WatchGeek

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Originally Posted by abduksion I mean when they make a two tone watch, how come they can't plate the back of the bracelet? I know in order to do that the watch would have to be solid gold, like the Rolex Submariner for example. I know their two totally different watches with two price points.

Maybe I'm just a watch Snob. I think if they plated their two tone Reserve Pieces it would set them apart further away from the non Reserve. God I hope I made sense, I sometimes have trouble putting things into words. Also maybe its just me who notices more Reserve pieces???

I'm not sure why the whole link isn't covered in one color either, Special K. They did it on the all gold 45mm RPD, the 47mm 7750 TTV today and a ton of other watches so why not do it on the 2 tone? I really prefer the 2 tone over the other 2 options and was turned off by the inside links myself not being treated, too, so its a fair question.

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Originally Posted by 50mm&up Oh i got ya. It boils down to what makes the world go round, my fine furry friend. Dolla bills YO! Thank God You understood what I was talking about lol. __________________

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abduksion Senior Member True WatchGeek

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Originally Posted by NG111 I'm not sure why the whole link isn't covered in one color either, Special K. They did it on the all gold 45mm RPD, the 47mm 7750 TTV today and a ton of other watches so why not do it on the 2 tone? I really prefer the 2 tone over the other 2 options and was turned off by the inside links myself not being treated, too, so its a fair question.

Thanks for agreeing I knew I wasn't the only one. __________________

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Your question about gold plating the links of a watch...both top and bottom.

This is a quirk of Invictas doing that just doesn't seem to have any rhime or reason.

Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, who knows way.

It doesn't seem to follow any particular price range or collection of watches, it just happens.

And speaking to the particular example you've choosen to ask about.

They didn't seem to be affraid to fully plate the all gold version.

Like I said...no rhime, no reason. unclefixit

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50mm&up Senior Member True WatchGeek

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Originally Posted by abduksion Thank God You understood what I was talking about lol.

I know its a cost saving move, but come on, plate the whole link! __________________

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OnTheWrist Senior Member Veteran Geek

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Originally Posted by 50mm&up I know its a cost saving move, but come on, plate the whole link!

Funny thing is the caseback is plated on the two-tone but not the links! It's still a nice watch though!

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larrycumba Senior Member Veteran Geek

It cheapens the look when not plated on the inside and outside. That goes for all brands. larrycumba View Public Profile Send a private message to larrycumba Find all posts by larrycumba Add larrycumba to Your Contacts #14 Yesterday, 09:29 PM

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I was curious so I checked all of my 2 tone invictas to see if any were plated on the inside of the bracelet. None in the stainless and gold including the new speedway. I found one black and gold that was gold on both sides model #3756 I do have two Rollers but those links are solid.

Like the others said if your wearing it who can tell. watch addict View Public Profile Send a private message to watch addict Find all posts by watch addict

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CharlieB Senior Member True WatchGeek

Hmmm, a hater who hates to be hated.

I take your point that Invicta has been making a lot of Reserve timepieces, and with so many of them at low pricepoints it's hard to get that feeling that they're very special anymore.

That said, lots of people are happy to get nice watches at good prices, so what the heck.

The plating issue's been discussed extensively, but I agree with you.

So to summarize, I don't hate you, I pretty much agree with you (don't tell anybody __________________

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Originally Posted by 50mm&up They make WAY more non Reserve pieces Kevin and i don't understand the 2nd question.

I think he meant to ask why didn't Invicta do the Swiss Gold Layering process on both sides of the TT bracelet. If you look...only the top side of the links are gold plated..not the underside. I understand why you questioned it....because I had the same question.

But the answer is simple....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Cost more bucks to do it, plain and simple. __________________

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I don't like any watch that pretends to be a solid gold watch, since compared to the real gold watch, even a fully plated watch IS comparatively cheap. At least with the Reserve ProDiver there is no pretence of that since there is no inside plating. I believe many people, prefer all stainless watches for this reason. It IS what it appears to be. Not only that, but there is no fear of the mask coming off when the plated watch is scratched and is exposed for the fake that it is. All stainless remains the same whether deeply scratched or not.

Still, I think the question the OP asks is a good one, for which I don't have an answer. I would imagine it takes more work to avoid plating the inside of a link than to plate the entire link. The inside of the link would need to be masked in some way to avoid it otherwise being plated. Maybe this would be a good question to ask Jim. I am sure he could get us the real answer.

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morrison2951 Senior Member Veteran Geek

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I've heard Jim say that the inside links are sometimes not gold plated because the oils in your wrist will eventually cause it to wear off anyway. morrison2951 View Public Profile Send a private message to morrison2951 Find all posts by morrison2951 Add morrison2951 to Your Contacts #20 Today, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyDoc I don't like any watch that pretends to be a solid gold watch, since compared to the real gold watch, even a fully plated watch IS comparatively cheap. At least with the Reserve ProDiver there is no pretence of that since there is no inside plating. I believe many people, prefer all stainless watches for this reason. It IS what it appears to be. Not only that, but there is no fear of the mask coming off when the plated watch is scratched and is exposed for the fake that it is. All stainless remains the same whether deeply scratched or not.

Still, I think the question the OP asks is a good one, for which I don't have an answer. I would imagine it takes more work to avoid plating the inside of a link than to plate the entire link. The inside of the link would need to be masked in some way to avoid it otherwise being plated. Maybe this would be a good question to ask Jim. I am sure he could get us the real answer.

To me it's not a matter of "pretends to be a solid gold watch". I think most people realize you're not wearing a solid gold watch of that size which would be many thousands of dollars.

It's more a gold color, like wearing a black IP watch or rose-tone. Be kind of boring if every watch you own was just plain stainless steel. And the vast majority of my watches are plain stainless. nferr View Public Profile Send a private message to nferr Find all posts by nferr Add nferr to Your Contacts #21 Today, 11:49 AM

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I'm a big fan of the "DLC" coating on Ball watches- kind of a gunmetal color and it's supposed to actually help resist some of the inevitable scratches better than SS. morrison2951 View Public Profile Send a private message to morrison2951 Find all posts by morrison2951 Add morrison2951 to Your Contacts #22 Today, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by abduksion I mean when they make a two tone watch, how come they can't plate the back of the bracelet? I know in order to do that the watch would have to be solid gold, like the Rolex Submariner for example. I know their two totally different watches with two price points.

Maybe I'm just a watch Snob. I think if they plated their two tone Reserve Pieces it would set them apart further away from the non Reserve. God I hope I made sense, I sometimes have trouble putting things into words. Also maybe its just me who notices more Reserve pieces???

The non reserve two tone pro divers are plated on the inside. I think they should do the same with the reserve models as well.

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Mike_NavyNuke Senior Member Super Geek

My guess is the INSANE cost of gold per ounce these days. I feel that could be a big reason, but I am not sure how long invicta has been doing this with their watches; or even how much gold is required to plate a watch - could be a moot point if the amount of gold used is minuscule. __________________

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Originally Posted by larrycumba It cheapens the look when not plated on the inside and outside. That goes for all brands. +1. I can understand them doing it on a regular model, but a reserve piece?

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CHUCK WAGON Senior Member Veteran Geek

Sorry man I'm a hater....LOL, oh by the way the Reserve line aint that Reserve anymore....

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2-A 7750 decorated in a high end brand would retail for 5000+,& yes; you would see the links completed gold plated BRUCER View Public Profile Send a private message to BRUCER Send email to BRUCER Find all posts by BRUCER Add BRUCER to Your Contacts #27 Today, 01:11 PM Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NYC Burbs Posts: 1,067 Real Name: Ian

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Originally Posted by abduksion Please don't hate me for asking these two questions . but Can we hate you for other reasons?

Just kidding .

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Just kidding .

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I think I should ask Jim. __________________

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What Reserve line and no I wont hate you this time maybe next time