Join Date: Oct 2009 mosc Location: Allentown, PA Senior Member Posts: 350 Senior Geek Real Name: Howard Sending Reserve Scuba back :-(
I know other people disagree and I'm not looking to start a flame war. I just want to share my opinion. Your comments are welcome, of course. I got my silvertone/black reserver Scuba today, but she doesn't sing to me. The fit and finish are excellent, not jaw dropping, but not quite up to what this watch attempts to imitate, IMHO. To me, there is no question that this is an Oris knock off, or look alike. It's not a replica or a clone. There is certainly some Invicta styling added, but that unfortunately is my main objection. Particularly, the dial work just isn't up to snuff for a watch that costs this much. Specifically, I'm put off by the plastic chapter ring which holds the hour markers and the minute/second index marks. The chapter ring also holds the figure 8 bridge work that frames two of the subdials. I think the black plastic figure 8 detracts from the look of this piece. (If it isn't plastic, I apologize, but it looks plastic to me). I would have taken the silver tone dial all the way to the out side, printed the indexes directly on it and use individually applied markers. and I would have not used the black figure 8. In this particular version, there isn't enough contrast between the hands and the dial. It's hard to read the time. JMHO As for the SW500 movement, it is very beautiful. However, the mechanical auto movement doesn't do split times. I still don't get why one want a mechanical chrono, they don't work as good as a quartz movement. Still, some day I'll have a nice auto chrono watch. I acknowledge the attraction. Nevertheless, quartz or mechanical, it is not possible to get accurate timings when the hands are near the hour markers because the indexing is completely gone, and it's even worse at the Swiss Made placard at the 6 O'clock position - no indexes for ten seconds! Me no impressed. So, I beg your forgiveness, but this has the look and feel of an Invicta, not an Oris, or other first drawer Swiss brand, and $800 is too much for a look-alike for me at this point in my life, unless it was really
primo. If you like the looks of it, it's probably worth the money though. Congrats to all those that snagged this, but I'll wait for the next bus. Poor iPhone photo included for illustrative purposes.
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mosc View Public Profile Send a private message to mosc Find all posts by mosc Add mosc to Your Contacts #2 Yesterday, 04:31 PM scott99
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I don't know, I didn't get one, but it sure looks like one smoking hot beautiful watch. I love the dial work, that weave look, that part certainly doesnt mimic an Oris, and Oris doesn't have an SW500 movement. But I agree that if it doesnt sing to ya, ya have to send it back. Unless you can arrange a trade for something you'd prefer more.
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Sounds like a very good honest review of the watch. Thank you.
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I like it when someone actually has an opinion one way or another on a watch and actually explains why. This is why I am on this forum. I completely understand your complaints and without owning one, only going on pictures, can see your complaints. I think if the hands were a bit longer that would help with the accuracy of the reading. Either way, great explanation! __________________ Contrary to your belief, nobody owes you anything
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Ya know, I guess that is why Oris, Omega, and Rolex are still in business! Different strokes for each of us. Its well past a $799 watch in my opinion, and I think what you feel is plastic is actually enamel. But if it doesn't sing, by all means send it back!!!! __________________
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you know that was a awesome review! but at the same time everyone in the industry copies one another its just how it goes i guess. look at the new interchangeable invicta is coming out with they use the same cutting edge technology as renato used on the t-rex interchangeable. so imho whatever brand you look at you will find "copycats" so to speak. i honestly enjoyed your review it was very honest and good! i did not get a scuba im in the nbz but even if i was not i still would not have bought it. the speedway dd was the same price for what is imho a better more desirable and scarce movement! we will be seeing lots of new and old designs with the sw500 engine driving them not only from invicta but other company's as well. so that was my reasoning for not pulling the trigger on the scuba the speedway was and is more desirable i the long run
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I have to say I love this watch. My original scuba is a favorite , although i have gotten used to larger watches. I love the dougnut case and clean , matt dial of the original. My 1 and only criticism of the R Scuba is the figure 8 that surrounds the subdials. I'd like a cleaner looking dial. Too many companies love very busy and complicated dials. I gave up on Renato for that very reason. I can't even tell the time on most of their new models. Again, I do love this new R scuba and would give it a B+ ( due only to that big 8 on the dial ). I was ready to pull the trigger but only sub $700.
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I don't think anyone would flame an honest opinion. I hope at the next bus you find the watch that sings to you.
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To each their own I say..Good review, doesn't share my opinion but no one said we all have to agree with
each-other...It does take after the Oris T1, but at this price it's a fantastic alternative!
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I think it was over kill review,sure the watch isn't for everybody and even maybe a oris would not please all too.but to go on every part of the watch to the movement was a bit much..i do hope if the watch is
perfect you put it up for sale here for someone that missed it..at the 814,00 shipped to someone here may help out a geek..also sorry the watch wasn't to your liking... All jmo __________________ the good i've done no one remembers, the bad no one forgets.
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Totally agree.
While I LOVE the case, the dial is a total turn off. Actually, I'd be most happy with the classic black dial as on my original pro diver as in the picture below.... __________________
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No agenda opinions are welcomed by me. Your comments are well written and thought out. Thanks for sharing them
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go read my lowdown on the watch in look what i got 4th page in my thread,my opinion totally differs from yours,this is as nice or nicer than oris,ive owned 5 of them,think the dial work much nicer than the oris,the multiple levels,i own breitling omega had rolex etc. this is on par with the best out there imo,sorry you feel that way,mine rendition is the total oppisate,for 800 i feel i got 1 of the deals of the year,i see this getting more wrist time than the 4 breitlings and omegas i own,but thats why baskin robbins makes regular chochlate chip and mint chochlate chip,some people will have different
opinions,to me this is a winner all the way
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Well your opinion isnt the norm but it is your opinion, I dont have a dog in this fight but if I was to buy this or the Oris it would be this one all day every day. Good luck on your next go around. __________________ Hmmmmmmm. I can't say what I want to say!
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Nice review and you broke it down very well. Better luck with the next one. There are plenty of auto chronos out there and I know you will find the one for you. __________________
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Quote: Originally Posted by loosecannon I think it was over kill review,sure the watch isn't for everybody and even maybe a oris would not please all too.but to go on every part of the watch to the movement was a bit much..i do hope if the watch is perfect you put it up for sale here for someone that missed it..at the 814,00 shipped to someone here may help out a geek..also sorry the watch wasn't to your liking... All jmo Totally disagree Bill. Howard covered the fit, finish, dial design, materials accuracy, legibility and wrote a conclusion. I have seen much more over-killed" reviews and this was far from it. I ordered one and do appreciate his veiwpoint. I will still make up my own mind, but his opinion was honest. Thanks Howard and I am sorry she didn't work for ya Bro! __________________ Class...Quelle heure est il? - Madame Eno (My 8th grade French Teacher)
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Thank you for your review.
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Thanks for the support, gentlemen, and I also appreciate the disagreement. Daren, my comment about the mechanical auto chrono not doing split time was probably unneeded, I agree. It's a general comment about all such movements, not specific to this watch or this movement. I probably should start another topic about auto chronos, but I suspect it's been discussed to death already. __________________ If they don't have tritium, then I'm not getting 'em...
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This is the reason I stated a few days ago we shouldn't compare the Scuba to the Oris,I feel Oris with it's reputation in the watch industry is second to none.Although the new Scuba looks nice and I don't own
one,I highly doubt the fit,finish and quality can compare to any TT1 Oris diver.The Oris has 100yrs of tradition and specialize in only automatic mvts since day one, I just can't believe this new Scuba is in the same category.IMO the only similarities are the donut case and colors which they (Invicta) copied from Oris. __________________
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Howard thats a shame you didn't like your watch. I thought that was an excellent review. For that kind of money you should love the purchase you made. I agree send it back if your not completely satisfied.
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Now I don't feel bad!!!! I did not have it in hand but just looking at the pictures I noticed nothing was polished. I discussed this with my watchmaker to get a price on getting the case polished and the inner or outer links and he said it would be about 4 hours work to do it right so I too didn't feel it was worth it. I was hoping it would come out at 699 or less and I would have tried it but it was just too much for my
comfort. I own the Oris Great Barrier Reef and there is a difference between polished and un polished!
Maybe the next run will be different and I'll bite but this one I chose to pass on. FYI: I own 30 Invicta watches and 90% are auto's. I love Invicta watches. __________________
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A very honest review so good on you. If a watch that costs $800 dollars doesn't knock your socks off no need to feel bad about the reasons why. Just as the others who paid the $800 and feel like they stole the watch are loving the piece. Respectful disparate tastes and views should always be respected here. curiousgeorge View Public Profile Send a private message to curiousgeorge Find all posts by curiousgeorge Add curiousgeorge to Your Contacts #27 Yesterday, 05:55 PM
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Rbart, your comments are valid. I must say in defense of the Scuba, that the brushed finish is superb. It looks first rate, like satin. To me it's a matter of personal preference. I don't really want an Invicta to look like an Oris, or any other watch for that matter, but I want it to look like a good Swiss diver watch. Look at the above posted picture of an Oris. See how the index markers are complete around the perimeter of the dial. To me, that's essential for a high quality timepiece, unless its a dress or concept watch. I'm just sayin... __________________ If they don't have tritium, then I'm not getting 'em... mosc View Public Profile Send a private message to mosc Find all posts by mosc Add mosc to Your Contacts #28 Yesterday, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rbart Now I don't feel bad!!!! I did not have it in hand but just looking at the pictures I noticed nothing was polished. I discussed this with my watchmaker to get a price on getting the case polished and the inner or outer links and he said it would be about 4 hours work to do it right so I too didn't feel it was worth it. I was hoping it would come out at 699 or less and I would have tried it but it was just too much for my comfort. I own the Oris Great Barrier Reef and there is a difference between polished and un polished!
I don't care for polished at all, it scratches way to easy... i wear my Oris for work as well as pleasure and its alot easier to maintain. Mine has been completely re-brushed.
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I agree. The hands sort of get lost on the dial. Recently I sold a great watch for that very same reason. I'm over 50 and without my reading glasses, I couldn't tell the time. Sorry you didn't get to keep such a glorious looking watch. __________________ Never forget those who are serving to keep our way of life. TimLovesWatches View Public Profile Send a private message to TimLovesWatches Find all posts by TimLovesWatches Add TimLovesWatches to Your Contacts #30 Yesterday, 06:04 PM
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Thanks Howard...you did well. It's how you feel, it's your collection, it's your money. I've had it happen many times, and never looked back. Thank goodness we HAVE a great forum for anything we want to discuss like men and women. One common thing..watches. How many times have we heard...if everyone (and everything) was the same, it would be a dull world. I always immediately think of how many watch companies are out there to hopefully satisfy us. Unreal. Now, I had to cancel mine for personal reasons....and "there's a reson for everything" in this life. Your candidness was refreshing actually, even if everyone else loves and keeps their's. Me...I'm looking forward to next month, and so on. hangman52 View Public Profile Send a private message to hangman52 Find all posts by hangman52 Add hangman52 to Your Contacts #31 Yesterday, 06:05 PM
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Howard, perhaps you should have purchased a black dial watch. That way the figure 8 chapter rings on the inner eyes wouldn't stand out so big!! Perhaps you could get someone to trade with you. Or at worst, offer the watch to another geek that missed it for the $815 you have in it. I would think sending it back would be the last resort. i bet you could ebay it and make a couple of hundred in a heart beat. Just some ideas. rivers63386 View Public Profile Send a private message to rivers63386 Send email to rivers63386
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Scuba, duba, do .... Blue mrblue View Public Profile Send a private message to mrblue Find all posts by mrblue Add mrblue to Your Contacts #33 Yesterday, 06:12 PM
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John (strutn45)....I'm now drooling on your watch (actually my screen of course) Beautiful timepiece my friend. You had to go and post a photo!!!! Now, I won't sleep. Your collection always blows me away. That's why the WOTD thread is sinful!! hangman52 View Public Profile Send a private message to hangman52 Find all posts by hangman52 Add hangman52 to Your Contacts #34 Yesterday, 06:19 PM
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I appreciate your review my friend. Thanks for sharing. cpalmer777
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This watch was designed in the manner of the utilitarian tool diver, much like the Oris 47 mm tt chrono. If bling is your thing then this isn't the watch for you. I own a few high end watches myself and think the dial on this watch compares favorably. Gwatch, Why shouldn't we compare this watch to the Oris. Viper who has owned a few did and was impressed. Does one persons disappoint change that? Btw, I chose the balck dial as I like the contrasting white hands. invicsub View Public Profile Send a private message to invicsub Find all posts by invicsub Add invicsub to Your Contacts #36 Yesterday, 06:30 PM
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I appreciated reading the review, and thanks for posting it. I know there are always two sides to most stories, and opinions always differ to some degree. I appreciate your opinion. I have my own, which I shall withhold since I have not purchased this watch and therefore my opinion is not based upon experience, but only on seeing the watch here and on Shop. RD __________________ RANGERDAVID Loving life in the Mountains of North Carolina rangerdavid View Public Profile Send a private message to rangerdavid Find all posts by rangerdavid Add rangerdavid to Your Contacts #37
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Howard Sorry to hear the Scuba didn't float your boat, but I appreciate your honest and objective review. Your observations might help someone who is on the fence, make a more informed decision. Nice job. watchingout View Public Profile Send a private message to watchingout Send email to watchingout Find all posts by watchingout Add watchingout to Your Contacts #38 Yesterday, 06:47 PM
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Howard, Have to agree. If it doesn't "sing" send it back. A lot more choices out there to choose from. __________________
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I didnt buy the watch but appreciate your review... You spent the money and are entitled to your opinion. Another thing I appreciated was the fact that it wasn't a review that made me say glad I didnt buy one....I still may get one at some point.. rice22 View Public Profile Send a private message to rice22 Send email to rice22 Find all posts by rice22 Add rice22 to Your Contacts #40 Yesterday, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rivers63386 Howard, perhaps you should have purchased a black dial watch. That way the figure 8 chapter rings on the inner eyes wouldn't stand out so big!! You're probably right, but I'm all set for moving on. I'm going to keep my focus on tritium watches. I did get a A/D Coalition Forces. It isn't tritium, but it does have a lite (of sorts). :-) Thanks for your suggestions. __________________ If they don't have tritium, then I'm not getting 'em... mosc View Public Profile Send a private message to mosc Find all posts by mosc Add mosc to Your Contacts #41 Yesterday, 06:59 PM
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Nice review Howard. You always make saliant points and are fair. Blue mrblue View Public Profile Send a private message to mrblue Find all posts by mrblue Add mrblue to Your Contacts #42 Yesterday, 07:01 PM
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Well not every timepiece appeals to everyone...Doesn't necessarily mean the watch is not well made or lacking in other attributes..The fact that its is brushed vs polished is irrelevant to the overall quality of the watch..I don't own the watch so the only review I can give from the pics I have seen is that it has a nice overall presence, especially the dial work..It is also a collector's piece because it is the first dive watch to house the SW500 engine..That alone would be enough for me to want to acquire it.. I appreciate the thorough and honest review.. Jon __________________
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Originally Posted by Gwatchfanatic This is the reason I stated a few days ago we shouldn't compare the Scuba to the Oris,I feel Oris with it's reputation in the watch industry is second to none.Although the new Scuba looks nice and I don't own one,I highly doubt the fit,finish and quality can compare to any TT1 Oris diver.The Oris has 100yrs of tradition and specialize in only automatic mvts since day one, I just can't believe this new Scuba is in the same category.IMO the only similarities are the donut case and colors which they (Invicta) copied from Oris. +1 I've owned many an Oris and the Reserve line of Invicta's simply do not compare. Unless you have worn one you don't know what your missing. Thank you OP for a fair and thought out review - some of us really do appreciate your honesty waswell
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Gotta agree with OP Howard on the plastic chapter ring... I noticed that right away. __________________
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"Honest" review Howard I love the Oris pics!!! there is no Shame in Honesty... __________________
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Is the chapter ring really plastic or aluminum..Would Invicta use plastic on their chapter rings.. Jon __________________
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I own one of the original Invicta Scubas and I still wear it on a regular basis. The original swiss auto Scuba was clearly made as an homage to the Oris (as is the new SW500 version) . Adding an Oris diver to my collection had always been one of my goals and the Invicta Scuba was a stepping stone on my path to eventual Oris ownership. I must admit that even though an Oris diver is now in my possession (many thanks to my wife) my Invicta Scuba still remains on regular rotation. Will I ever sell off the Oris in favor of my Scuba? Never! Will I ever sell my original Invicta Scuba? Certainly not! __________________
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I don't think you have to worry about offending anyone. Your review was honest and probably helpful to a lot of us. The timepiece is very attractive and I've heard good things about the movement regarding its accuracy. IMHO I think the price is too steep for a watch that looks that similar to an Oris. I'm not knocking it at all and I know that watch brands pay homage to each other, but some far too similar. I'm not just referring to Invicta, I've seen other brands that have dive watches very similar to a submariner (Tag, Longiness, Tudor, etc). Plus, I've recently seen the Oris T1 chrono at costo for around $1100 (surprisingly, the bracelet and rubber strap model was the same price). I know that the Scuba was on VPs, which attracted a lot of people that couldn't afford to pay the $800 up front. However, if I had the choice of buying the Scuba at $800 up front or spending an additional $300 for the Oris, I would buy the Oris. amaghsadi View Public Profile Send a private message to amaghsadi Find all posts by amaghsadi Add amaghsadi to Your Contacts #49 Yesterday, 07:14 PM
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If you want an Oris...You buy a Oris! bundamania View Public Profile Send a private message to bundamania Find all posts by bundamania Add bundamania to Your Contacts
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Well you going to put up for sale to see if a geek who missed it wants it??? That would be cool of you..give it a couple of days before sending it back..jmo.. __________________ the good i've done no one remembers, the bad no one forgets.
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Its silly to spend that much on any Invicta, they're just not worth it in my opinion. I won't spend any more than $400.
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Great review, and a honest opinion. Thanks.......I would still love to have one though __________________
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#54 Yesterday, 07:27 PM Join Date: Sep 2009 Jim3 Location: Lakeville, MN Senior Member Posts: 977 Veteran Geek Real Name: Jimmy
thanks for the review. you started a great conversation. $599 would be a more appropriate price. for the watch. __________________ We all need a good camel.
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The only thing about this watch that doesn't compare to the Oris is the price. I have some high end watches that I think this watch can compare favorably to, keeping in mind that this is no dress diver. Plenty would argue that an Oris doesn't compre to an Omega, that doesn't compare to a Rolex, simply because of the price step in each brand. Funny how one persons opinion can vindicate all the naysayers.
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Howard, I appreciate your honest review and opinion on the New Reserve Scuba. I would agree that if it's not singing to you, then you should return it or possible put it up For Sale here on WG's. I personal really like the Woven dial and the multi-level configuration of the out chapter ring to the bridge chrono dial...it's different and sporty looking, IMO! I wanted to point out one other thing about the R Scuba, it is the 1st "True Dive Watch" in the World to encase the Selitta SW500! Best of luck to you on your next purchase I hope it sings to you! __________________ Android, Invicta, Renato, Seiko, Swiss Legend
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Thank you Howard for an honest, well thought out review! I will not be getting this watch either way, but I appreciate your take on it as you have it physically in your hands! Hope you eventually find the "right" one for you! __________________
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A very well written view, on your recent purchase. Nothing wrong with the timepiece not singing to you.. Different strokes, for different folk... Either way, I thought your write up was not malicious towards the brand. It was your opinion and it was fair and honest. And I appreciated it! Good for you, Howard! __________________
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Quote: Originally Posted by lsolienj I wanted to point out one other thing about the R Scuba, it is the 1st "True Dive Watch" in the World to encase the Selitta SW500! Thanks, Larry, for pointing that out. I have not considered that at all. I have to think about this for a few days before I send it back. I'm not sure what that means to me. I don't have any special things like that in my collection, except my new Ball Engineer Master II Diver Worldtime is the first worldtime auto with a day/date. Oh, and I have one of the infamous non-Swiss Reserve Titanium Lupah Sandstone watches. ;-0 I wonder if any other Geeks have thoughts on this particular aspect. Does being the first diver with the SW500 mean very much? Have I overlooked something significant? I'm open to ideas. __________________ If they don't have tritium, then I'm not getting 'em...
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Quote: Originally Posted by mosc Thanks, Larry, for pointing that out. I have not considered that at all. I have to think about this for a few days before I send it back. I'm not sure what that means to me. I don't have any special things like that in my collection, except my new Ball Engineer Master II Diver Worldtime is the first worldtime auto with a day/date. Oh, and I have one of the infamous non-Swiss Reserve Titanium Lupah Sandstone watches. ;-0 I wonder if any other Geeks have thoughts on this particular aspect. Does being the first diver with the SW500 mean very much? Have I overlooked something significant? I'm open to ideas. I dont think it means very much. Can anyone name the watch that housed the first 7750? __________________
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Thanks for the great review Howard.
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I'm deep in the nbz but I give out a vote for offering it up on the F.S. before you send it back if you send it back.
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Great review Howard.. I'm so glad you gave such an honest and detailed report. I don't own the watch, but right off the bat I see the hands do blend into the dial and are very difficult to pick up and read the time easily.. It's always in the details and that's one they missed. In my opinion, I also don't think it being the first diver with the SW500 makes it anything but the first diver with the SW500.. Nothing really extra special in the collection department there other than bragging rights.. I do like the design and think the price was a very fair one, but I'm glad I stuck with the DD 57 jewel Speedway at the same price as my choice...of course being a watch addict-I mean geek, if I could have afforded both, I probably would have picked up the black dial one.. There have been plenty of great watches that just didn't sing to me that I ended up sending back.. No reason to spend that kind of money if it doesn't thrill you.. Barry Also it is a great idea to offer this to a fellow watch geek first before you send it back. I know Ray (texastexter) is looking for one, so perhaps you could contact him and give him the opportunity to buy it. __________________ Barry G Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Your candid, honest review is appreciated. RE: post 25 and 28, I must side with the brushed finish over the polished. IMO a dive watch should not have polished features (and as stated the polished scratches anyway). I would love to see more Invicta divers with the brushed finish. That all said, I really like all three watches pictured in this thread (The OP's scuba, RBART's polished Oris, and Strutn's Brushed Oris). __________________
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This review did one thing for me. I'm looking at Oris watches......lol. __________________
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Sorry the watch didn't work out for you. That was a well written objective statement of your opinion with references to specific details to support your points. __________________ In order to understand recursion ... one must first understand recursion.
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Great review, really well thought out IMO. __________________ "Let the Free Market rule"
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That is by far one of the best thought out and well written reviews I have read on this forum. Thank you for your honesty and integrity.
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You can add mine to the list of defective. I am not able to adjust the date using the crown. I can wind the minute hand around and around to get the correct date, but that's something I won't accept for an $800. Mind you, this is a minor complaint. Fit and finish is flawless. Would that seriously be anyone interested in buying this one? Starting point would be $820 (to cover shipping). If interested, PM me.
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Well stated. Nice honest review that doesn't bash or offend. Thanks for the input.
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Thank you for your honest, excellent review, greatly appreciate your observations. I also was concerned about the readability of the silver dial, and the high cost for a look a like Oris, from Invicta.
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I guess I am a little perplexed by many of the comments that seem to suggest that because the Scuba looks similar to an Oris that the price should have been significantly lower than what it was offered at. To me the fit and finish and quality of construction should be the determining factor on what it is worth
rather than what it does or does not look like. From most of the posts that I've read it seems like the reviews of fit and finish are very favorable. I'll reserve my final opinion for when I've had a chance to actually hold one in my hand, but it seems to me that the price is very fair for what it is. Russ Russ
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My only advice to you is spend another $800 or so and go for the Oris. I loved my TT1 and wore it religiously for about 2 yrs. It was the 3 hand 44mm and didnt keep the best time . I did pay 975 and got back 600 though so they do hold their value . I cant wait for my Scuba to arrive . Ill let you all know what I think . Good luck