05-Apr-19 50:09:00 Unwin Lodge Alex van Zyl New Zealand couple - Pam and Dave Occupation: retired - I don't know what they did for a living Nationality: New Zealand This was a couple in their 70s who had been coming to Aoraki/Mt. Cook since the 1970s.They were avid mountaineers and had come up for a week to relax in the lodge and do some trekking. They used to ski Haupapa and use that valley as an access route for mountaineering. Profile:
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conflicting desire 1
conflicting desire 2 contradictions other
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The last time they went up to where Ball Shelter was, they didn't know where they were, because a chunk of land was gone. "It changed the perspective of what you're looking at. We had to get to grips of where we were.'
Their memory goes so far back that they have the capacity to truly understand the retreat. Pam explained that her mother used to ski at Ball Hut.
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loss of ski access (ski touring in the old days), loss of glacier visibility (you used to be able to see it from Unwin Lodge), loss of freedom as the safety rules have gotten stricter, loss of respect for the landscape by the new tourist demographic The process has been going on for so long. Dave: "We're probably getting to the point of no return. Whatever they do is not going to make any difference. We've taken too long; what, like 30 years?" They express disappointment in the lack of respect by foreign tourists.
Description commercialization - anxiety about how commercial the management plan comes across. they described they found the retreat sad, they watch it shrink with every visit back
Description He mentioned driving and then also commented on flight frequency and the fact that they still fly! Drving with the knowledge that it is fossil fuel emitting. Dave: "We know we do too much driving. It's the only the way to get to nice places." About helicopters, Pam: "Everyone's got a right to have a go, but i wouldn't want them to be at the expense of the park."
acceptance/ adaptation
acceptance, adaptation
rejection
rejection
Situation
Loss of mountain acccess
Helicopters, commercialization
Traffic, tourists
Rejection/ apathy/
There is a growing lack of respect for the landscape, especially with the foreign tourists that don't have the same ethos, growing inconsiderate traffic.
Dave: "Youisjust adapt. That's started with all the choppers." The noise disruptive and itswhy partthey of the lean towards commercialization, which goes against the core values of the park. Pam: "They're good if you've got to use them. It's the volume of them. You don't want helicopters all day long buzzing around." Dave: "The noise gets to you."
Behaviour
REFLECTION - OPINIONS - REASONING - ATTITUDE TOWARDS PRESENT AND FUTURE - BEHAVIOUR
Disorientation
experience
Other
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loss, *Solastalgia powerlessness, overwhelm disappointment other
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Yes or no Y Y
+ mourning anxiety sadness, sorrow
Unresolved loss
Yes or no Y
Ambivalence guilt
** Note that names have been changed to protect the privacy of interviewees.
It could be nice in another environment with more people
nice to have a monument out in nature
Didn't understand
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5. Apology
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Night Sky Reserve: "I don't know how that would go down in a Night Sky Reserve." It also detracts from the glacier itself.
Enjoyable walk on a nice day
they already have boat trips, so it could work; monuments have meaning for people; history
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✔ Impractical. "The problem is when you get a calving and then a boulder falls down and hits the structure."
At first, they seemed uncomfortable with the idea that I was trying to 'force' people to think about certain themes, but they opened up when I explained the concept more clearly. They also raised an interesting question: "Do we want to attract more people?" Interestingness Appropriateness Feasibility
3. Tribute trail
2. Spectacle
1. Memorial
Design sketch
NOTES
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Unpredictable
The weather is unpredictble, so they are willing to wait for weather windows to do activities
Physical characteristics Interpreted descriptors
The attraction used to be the glacier, where as it is now the lake. There are stricter rules now, increased traffic, less considerate visitors, focus change: the glacier is being marketed differently
Road up to Ball Hut slipped away one day, because there was less support from the lateral moraine. Every time you come back, you don't know what you're going to find. Dynamism - rock falls, unstable ground, calvings. Life time changes: Observed the glacier turning into a lake, shrinking glacier, terrain is more hazardous. Sudden changes: piece of the edge fell into the lake suddenly.
Changes (social)
Changes (physical)
Site knowledge
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Climate change to them is obvious, because they've been watching it since the 70s They did bfring up the point, however, that it Climate change: is debatable how much is natural and how much is human-induced.
* See separately-bound Appendix A (Part II) for raw interview transcripts.
Notes (Answering RQ1) EXPERIENCE - EMOTIONAL RESPONSE - ENVIRONMENTAL MELANCHOLIA
Interview date: Interview length: Location: Interviewer: Interviewee:
A1. INTERVIEW WITH PAM & DAVE; VISITORS
APPENDIX A (PART I)* FILLED OUT INTERVIEW TEMPLATES**
