LOVE AND LOANS HOW LOVE AND LEGACY DRIVE LUND MORTGAGE
POUR DECISIONS
TURNING DOWN DRINKS AND TURNING UP SUCCESS
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POUR DECISIONS
TURNING DOWN DRINKS AND TURNING UP SUCCESS
GOING SMALL TO GO BIG
THE BOUTIQUE APPROACH TO MORTGAGE LENDING
With a heart for heroes, CHRIS SHANK’S commitment to veterans fuels his new career path
LOVE AND LOANS HOW LOVE AND LEGACY DRIVE LUND MORTGAGE
POUR DECISIONS
TURNING DOWN DRINKS AND TURNING UP SUCCESS
GOING SMALL TO GO BIG
THE BOUTIQUE APPROACH TO MORTGAGE LENDING
With a heart for heroes, CHRIS SHANK’S commitment to veterans fuels his new career path
Just six months in, Chris Shank, a disabled veteran turned loan officer, whose commitment to giving back is making a monumental impact on the mortgage industry. From an emotional pledge of $1,000 at the Originator Connect conference to his passion for empowering fellow veterans, Shank’s journey is a testament to resilience and purpose. Explore his inspiring journey from military service to mortgage lending and how he’s making a meaningful impact along the way.
46 TYING THE KNOT AND CLOSING THE DEAL
Matt Oliver and Lisa Lund transformed a challenging industry landscape into a thriving mortgage business. From their serendipitous meeting at the Phoenix Open to weathering financial storms hand-in-hand, explore how their love story and professional journey shape their client-first philosophy and the enduring legacy they aim to create.
Tuning Out Market Mayhem
With interest rates and housing trends in constant flux, it’s easy to get lost in the data storm. Here’s why the best strategy might just be staying grounded, focused — and unfazed by the noise.
8 Transforming Challenges into Checkmarks
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Interest rates are going up. Nope, interest rates are going down. Home sales are declining, except in areas where they’re increasing. The rental market is strong, making mortgages attractive, just not where the rental market is softening, making apartments a better alternative to houses.
It’s all noise. And frankly, maybe the best idea is to just tune it all out.
As a news organization, we’re inundated daily with surveys, data reports, analyses, predictions, commentary, and prognostications about the state of the mortgage industry. Here’s the rub: almost all of it is right, but almost all of it is also wrong. It all depends on where and when and what’s coming. A market could surge for a few months, only to be faced with some disappointing news, and then it’s on a backward slide. Pretty much every originator already knows that interest rates this morning are no guarantee of interest rates this afternoon.
We’re not advocating paying no heed to actionable information. But being drowned in a deluge of data does no good, either. The rational course of action is to listen to enough knowledgeable sources to understand the general drift of the market. Then make plans that capitalize on your own unique skills and talents.
Has this been a bad market? For many, of course it has. But our pages have been filled with stories of originators and broker shops that have hit records this year. Those folks tuned out the noise. They didn’t get distracted or depressed by information they didn’t like. They looked at the market with as much clarity as possible, then they put their plans into motion. Purchases coming up short? Home equity and renovation loans to the rescue. Millennials locked out of the market? Time to build boomer business by figuring out the rules of reverse mortgages. Trigger leads not working? Divorce filings and new business formations can build a new database.
Our cover story this month is about a guy who hasn’t done much yet. His name is Chris Shank, and we met him at the Originator Connect conference in Las Vegas in August. Chris decided to get into the mortgage origination game this year, of all years. But he made a mark at the event by literally getting on stage in front of everyone and telling them how much he loved being an originator. Enough with the Eeyore faces, he all but said. Come at this like a winner — clients love to work with winners! Keep your attitude positive, put a smile on your face, make every connection you can, and be smart about the products you offer. Business will build.
But first, tune out the noise.
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EBY DAVE HERSHMAN, CONTRIBUTING WRITER, NATIONAL MORTGAGE PROFESSIONAL MAGAZINE
very change brings challenges, but it also brings opportunities. Those who are willing to change and take advantage of the opportunities will be those who not only survive, but also prosper. It reminds me of the tremendous blow to the markets during the Great Recession of 2008. So many loan officers and real estate agents left the industry. But some agents decided to specialize in short-sales and foreclosures. And after a while, rates moved down enough that refinances started to take off. Of course, with refinances again in vogue, many loan officers tried to come back in the industry — we called them rebound loan officers. Similarly, those who were foreclosed upon also came back into the market years later to purchase again (rebound buyers).
So, what are the opportunities this new “commission regimen” could bring our way?
• Education. I don’t care how much on-line information is out there, the average consumer tends to be fairly clueless about the real estate and mortgage process. And many real estate agents are certainly in need of education as well. Now we have just made the process more complicated. Before it
was easy — the seller paid the commission (though the buyer really pays it). Now we have added another option.
Loan officers who are successful give their prospects more options and then they educate them on these alternatives. That is what separates a salesman from a trusted advisor. More options demonstrate that the process is more complex than just shopping for a rate on a 30-year fixed mortgage. Thus, this is an opportunity to present more options and further educate the consumer and the agent on the paths they might take.
• Timing. In the mortgage business, any top producer can tell you that the earlier you get in front of a prospect the better. If you talk to them before they even start house shopping, you can develop a relationship and add value to their lives. That value might include helping them with their credit, making sure they are looking within the right housing price range or even introducing them to a real estate agent or another vendor partner.
Well, the option we just added to the equation makes it even more imperative for the agent to refer the prospect to you before they look at houses. The agent needs to know
Those who are willing to change and take advantage of the opportunities will be those who not only survive, but also prosper.
whether the buyer definitely will need to request that the seller pay the full commission which is due. That is too big an issue to leave to the last second.
Thus, your education needs to start with the agents because this change is new to them, and they need your help more than ever in this regard.
As I have said: every change begets opportunities. Some will look at this change and head for the hills. Others will assess the situation and find out
how other successful industry players are reacting. This change will not mean an end to the industry by any
means. People will still need the guidance of an agent to help them find the right home and negotiate the process. And with a shortage of homes in America, there will be plenty of demand. ■
Dave Hershman is the top author in this industry with six books published as well as the founder of the OriginationPro Marketing System and the OriginationPro’s on-line comprehensive mortgage school. His site is www.OriginationPro.com and he can be reached at
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he mortgage industry can be a very nuanced space to grow your career. It is imperative for mortgage professionals to constantly seek continuing education efforts to stay up to date on changes and trends in the industry and new regulations that could have a direct or indirect impact on their business. While there seems to be no shortage of educational resources and events geared towards the mortgage industry, depending on your role in this space, there may come a point where you feel that the mortgage industry may be failing to provide you with certain resources or areas of education. When you feel like you aren’t quite on the cutting edge, it may be time to look to other industries to boost your knowledge. So, in what areas of your professional development should you seek insight from other industries?
Technology in the mortgage industry has come a long way over the years. So many softwares and systems have incorporated AI and other automation tools into their platforms
to allow companies to operate more efficiently. However, compared to many other industries, the mortgage industry’s technology is only scratching the surface. Looking at industries like telecommunications, manufacturing, and healthcare and the advancements they are making can be eye-opening and hint towards the future of mortgage technology innovation.
While you may think that certain technologies may not ever have an application in mortgage and it can be hard to wrap your head around how that tech could be integrated into our space, at a basic level, it can help to see how comparable industries are leveraging things like AI and automation to improve their businesses. Seeing how the banking and insurance industries, to name a few, are leveraging technology in their underwriting, compliance, and more can be a great source of inspiration for how you can incorporate similar tech into your workflow.
I will be the first person to admit that when it comes to
marketing in the mortgage industry, our space is probably at least three years behind other industries when it comes to marketing innovation. As a marketing professional in this space, it can be frustrating at times to see other industries’ marketing advancements as the mortgage space slowly plays the game of catch-up. While there are many mortgage companies at the top of their marketing game, and they can be great sources of inspiration for your efforts, I think even their marketing teams would argue there is more work to be done to bring mortgage marketing techniques up to the levels you see in other sectors.
Doing research into how other industries are pioneering the way in social media marketing, con-
tent marketing, digital marketing, marketing automation, and more can really help to fill any deficiencies you are seeing in your marketing strategies. Also, attending content and marketing-centric events can be hugely beneficial because these events typically cover use cases and marketing strategies across numerous other industries. At a core level, marketing typically is either B2B or B2C so while the audiences may be different, certain techniques can be universally applicable. Being able to see the possibilities in one setting and discussing with marketing professionals from other sectors how their techniques could
apply to your own strategy could help take your marketing to the next level and well beyond the likes of your competitors in the mortgage space.
One of the final areas where it can often be beneficial to seek guidance outside of just the mortgage industry is leadership training and development. While the mortgage industry has no shortage of tremendous leaders, there is no one right style of leadership. Seeking inspiration from leaders in other industries can help you find the best way to develop your own path.
top that can provide insight into all of the steps they took to get there and how you can apply that to your career. Some books to start with include “Principles” by Ray Dalio, the CIO of Bridgewater Associates, “Grinding it Out” by Ray Kroc, known for making McDonald’s what it is today, and “The Cobbler”, by Steve Madden, American fashion designer and founder of Steve Madden, Ltd. All of these individuals have had success in
are at the top of their games.
When it comes to marketing in the mortgage industry, our space is probably at least three years behind other industries when it comes to marketing innovation.
One of the easiest places to start is doing research into which professional leaders inspire you or mirror a leadership style that you would like to emulate and see if they have books or educational content that you can dig into. Many influential executives have incredible biographies or autobiographies about their rise to the
very different industries so it can be fascinating to learn about commonalities and differences in their strategies and leadership styles.
You may also want to consider joining a leadership mastermind group that can connect you with other like-minded individuals from numerous other industries. Building your network, collaborating, and commiserating with other leaders can help you identify what you are doing well and where you can implement the best practices of others who
The mortgage industry has its own strengths and can certainly provide industry professionals with robust educational resources to ensure they remain up to date on trends in the space. However, there is nothing wrong with seeking information and insight from other industries that may excel in the areas that the mortgage space is lacking. The most important thing is to take back the knowledge you’ve gleaned from other industries and not only apply it in your own professional life but also share it with your colleagues. This forward-thinking will not only help you improve your own career but also help propel the industry forward.■
Erica LaCentra is chief marketing officer for RCN Capital.
Borrowers underwater with taxes and insurance can be a default risk. Helping them is critical.
EBY LEW SICHELMAN, CONTRIBUTING WRITER, NATIONAL MORTGAGE PROFESSIONAL MAGAZINE
very third call Craig Eagleson answers these days is from a befuddled lender or loan servicer who asks essentially the same question: “Can you help me lower my client’s debt-to-income ratio” so they can qualify for financing or rescue him from falling into foreclosure.
Fortunately, Eagleson, who heads Incenter Insurance Solutions, often can help. And so can Alison Tulio, who runs Incenter Tax Solutions. Their companies are two members of the Incenter Lenders Services family of firms that help lenders maximize their operational performance and find new growth paths.
(A third Incenter company, CampusDoor, provides third-party, back-end private student loan solutions, including both origination and refinancing, so lenders can consolidate multiple loans into one and help qualify more borrowers. But that’s a story for a different month.)
With double-digit increases in both homeowners’ insurance and property taxes stymying many a would-be homeowner as well as pushing bunches of current owners into default, what these two executives and their staffs do has risen in
importance, thrusting them to the top of the heap when it comes to solving lenders and servicers problems.
This isn’t meant to be a commercial for the Incenter affiliates. There are plenty of other firms, both national and local, which do the same. And consumers can do most of the legwork on their own to trim their insurance premiums and lower their property tax. But the services Eagleson and Tulio provide have become invaluable, especially in light of the difficulties many buyers are having in qualifying for financing so they are worth a closer look.
Incenter Insurance is basically a national insurance broker that’s licensed in all 50 states. On the personal insurance side, the company deals with nearly two dozen carriers; on the commercial side, 33. It deals directly with consumers, offering complimentary reviews of their current or — and this is important to people trying to buy a house — potential policies in hopes of identifying less expensive options.
Estimates vary, but experts say that anywhere from 30 percent to 60 percent of all property is over-assessed.
Lenders and servicers use the company’s services, too. And they can also “White Label” an embedded link into their platforms that enables borrowers to click through to Incenter Insurance’s site, where they can quickly search for policy alternatives on their own. Borrowers are not charged anything, but the hope, of course, is that they will allow Incenter to place their coverage.
It works something like this: During a one-on-one consult, agents take all the pertinent information to help determine the appropriate coverage, not just for cost but also for exposure to risk. Armed with that, the agents then shop for quotes. “We don’t try to shortchange it,” says Eagleson. “We build policies based on the best value. Our job is to find the best fit. If we can save the client money, great. But if not, we explain why the (more expensive) policy offers the better coverage.”
Incenter Tax works essentially the same way in that it offers consumers the opportunity to lower their property tax stipends, again at no cost. If,
after reviewing the latest assessment, the company determines there is a reason to appeal, it offers to handle the process on the property owner’s behalf for a one-time contingency fee.
The company works through 10,000 appraisers and attorneys nationwide who review the client’s assessment. If the company wins the appeal — and it boasts a 93 percent success rate vs. the 60 percent rate among consumers who handle the process on their own — it takes half of his first year’s savings. But every year thereafter, the savings will be all his, at least until the property is reassessed.
The company works directly with consumers. And like Incenter Insurance, its platform can be private-labeled on lenders’ and servicers’ platforms, where consumers can be just one extra click away. Obviously, property taxes are based, in part, on the most recent sales price. Consequently, there is little a buyer can do to lower the tariff until he takes occupancy. So Incenter Tax won’t be much help in qualifying buyers for loans. But it can be a big help to owners of all ilk, including those facing financial difficulty.
CEO Tulio tells me it trims its residential clients’ tax bills by about $4,600, on average.
Okay, that’s the plug. Now let’s get down and dirty with information to help your clients cut their insurance costs and property taxes all by their own selves:
• Property taxes — Estimates vary, but experts say that anywhere from 30 percent to 60 percent of all property is over-assessed. Better yet, as long as homeowners follow the rules regarding deadlines and other requirements — every jurisdiction has its own criteria — the appeals process is relatively simple.
Borrowers should start by doing the math. Multiply the tax rate — say $1.50 per $100 of assessed value — times the home’s assessed value. So if the place is valued at $300,000, the tax should be $1.50 times 3,000 or $4,500. If the arithmetic is incorrect, the tax man will have no choice but to recompute.
Next, they should look for errors in the assessor’s description of the property. Your client may be down for four bedrooms when he has only three or one acre when he has only half that. Any discrepancy in his favor will likely lead to a lower assessment.
Another way to trim insurance costs is by raising the deductible to an amount the insured can comfortably afford should he have to file a claim.
The higher the deductible, the more the savings.
Tell him to ask for a copy of his assessment record, aka work-
sheet or appraisal card. Every property has one and everyone has a right to see theirs. The record will list everything the assessor believes contributes to value: location, size, amenities, and so forth. Mistakes are not uncommon and it’s the borrower’s job to make certain everything is correct.
Next, he needs to gather ammunition to prove the property has been assessed unfairly. Like properties should carry like assessments, so he wants to make sure the house is assigned the same value as similar properties in the area.
Here, owners will need to find out what properties the assessor used for his comparisons. Then, they need to check them out to see how they differ. One might have a two-car garage, for example, and their place has only a carport. Or one might be all brick while theirs is of wood-frame construction clad in aluminum siding.
Another option is to have the property appraised by a professional to see how it stacks up to the assessor’s comparables or five to 10 others that are identical to theirs or nearly so — same model, lot size, improvements, upgrades, and finishes. Then look for any and all differences that make their house less desirable.
• Homeowners Insurance — First and foremost, borrowers need to shop ‘til they drop — every year, the experts recommend — and narrow their choices to the best three based on their price ranges, the breadth of their coverage, the quality of their services, and their financial stability. Once they get to that point, they should ask for specific price quotes. But they must be certain they are com-
paring apples to apples, with the same coverages and deductibles.
When they are placing a value on a property, owners should make sure they don’t include the value of the ground it is sitting on. The land a house is on is not at risk.
When they are placing a value on a property, owners should make sure they don’t include the value of the ground it is sitting on.
The land a house is on is not at risk.
Another way to trim insurance costs is by raising the deductible to an amount the insured can comfortably afford should he have to file a claim. If the owner can jump his deductible from $500 to $1,000, for example, he can trim his premium by as much as 25 percent. The higher the deductible, the more the savings.
Borrowers should also consider bundling their homeowners’ policies with their automobile and other coverages with the same carrier. If they have two or more policies, they might be able to cut their premiums anywhere from 5 percent to 15 percent. But they should make sure the combined price is lower than separate policies with different carriers.
Another tip: Owners should ask their insurers what they can do to make their houses more resistant to natural disasters. Adding storm shutters or reinforcing a roof also may be able to save some money.
They should also ask about discounts
for smoke detectors, burglar alarm systems, and dead-bolt locks. Some companies offer discounts of up to 20 percent. Price reductions also may be available if the insured is retired. If someone is at least 55 and no longer working, as much as a 10 percent discount is available through some companies.
Establishing and maintaining a good credit record can cut costs as well. Insurers almost universally use credit scores to price their policies. So advise your borrowers to pay on time, not to use more than 30 percent of their credit limits, and otherwise keep their financial noses as clean as possible.■
Lew Sichelman is a contributing writer to National Mortgage Professional magazine. He has been covering the housing and mortgage sectors for 52 years. His syndicated column appears in major newspapers throughout the country.
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Our lives basically change in three ways; through the people we meet, the places we travel, and the books we read.
I made that statement many years ago, and I still believe it today.
Television, computers, the Internet and even radio were supposed to be the
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replacement for conventional books when each first became popular. But more books than ever are being published, and more copies are being sold.
In fact, a whiz-kid remarked smugly to his professor, “The book will soon be completely replaced by the Internet.” “Really?” the professor said. “Then
> Lisa J. Haynes is officially retired after a 10-year tenure at the Mortgage Bankers Association, the former Senior Vice President, Chief Financial Officer, and Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer confirmed.
where will you get a book on how to fix your computer?”
Inscribed on the Thomas Jefferson Building at the Library of Congress are the first eight words of this quotation by Henry David Thoreau: “Books are the treasured wealth of the world and the fit inheritance of generations and
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nations. Their authors are a natural and irresistible aristocracy in every society, and, more than kings or emperors, exert an influence on mankind.”
National Book Month is held each October. The month-long celebration focuses on the importance of reading, writing, and literature.
Norman Cousins was one of America’s most famous editors. He ended his career teaching medical students, when he wrote this about books: “There is a simple non-medical technique for in-
creasing longevity. This system goes by the name of ‘book.’ Through it, man can live hundreds of lifetimes in one. What is more, he may enjoy fabulous options. He can live in any age of his choosing. He can take possession of an experience. He can live inside the mind of any man who has recorded an interesting thought, any man who has opened up new slices of knowledge, any man who has engaged in depths of feeling or awareness beyond the scope of most mortals. This is what good books are all about.”
When it comes to personal growth, books are a treasure trove of knowledge, insights and wisdom that can
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By learning from the experiences and advice of others, you can develop a toolkit of techniques for navigating obstacles in your own life.
help shape our perspectives, improve our skills, and inspire us to become better versions of ourselves.
Here is why reading is so crucial for personal development:
Expands your perspective. Books open you up to new cultures, philosophies and ways of thinking. By exposing yourself to a broad range of topics and authors, you can challenge your preconceptions and gain a more nuanced understanding of the world.
Enhances self-reflection. Reading about characters, situations, or ideas can prompt you to reflect on your own life, values, and behaviors. This self-reflection is a key component of personal growth, as it can lead to greater self-awareness and a clear sense of your goals and priorities.
Improves problem-solving skills. Many books, especially those focused on personal development, provide strategies for dealing with challenges. By learning from the experiences and advice of others, you can develop a toolkit of techniques for navigating obstacles in your own life.
Boosts creativity. Reading stimulates the imagination, encouraging you to think creatively and explore new possibilities. This can be particularly valuable in personal development, as it enables you to envision and pursue goals that you might not have considered otherwise.
Builds knowledge. At the most basic level, reading is a powerful way to acquire knowledge. Whether you’re learning about psychology, health, productivity, or any other topic related to personal growth, books can provide you with the information you need to make informed decisions about your life.
Enhances communication skills. Reading regularly can also improve your vocabulary and comprehension, which in turn can enhance your communication skills. Being able to articulate your thoughts clearly and persuasively is a valuable asset in both personal and professional growth.
In my own life, I’ve found that reading has been instrumental in shaping my understanding of business, leadership,
and human behavior. Books like Dale Carnegie’s “How to Win Friends and Influence People” and Stephen Covey’s “The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People” have not only informed my professional practices but have also influenced my approach to personal relationships and self-improvement.
As the author of seven New York Times bestsellers, I unashamedly promote the value of books — largely because of the effect that books have had on my life and career. I could never personally see or hear all the authors who have influenced me, but their written works fill my bookshelves and hard drive. And I can revisit them at my convenience.
Truly, books are a gift that keep on giving.
Mackay’s Moral: Leaders are readers. If you want to continue to grow and develop, make reading a non-negotiable part of your daily routine. n
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So, the year didn’t exactly go how you wanted. Rest assured, nearly everyone is feeling that way.
Mortgage rates are still higher than projected, inventory is still a challenge, the gap in affordability is widening, and borrowers are still waiting for some sort of relief from these difficult conditions. At this point, it’s easy to lose hope, but it’s important to remember that despite the challenges of this year, you surely had successes too.
Take a moment to look in the rearview mirror and see where you’ve come from and how you’ve succeeded — you’ve likely accomplished more than you think. Taking this inventory is an important step in managing the stress this year has caused.
BY MARY KAY SCULLY, CONTRIBUTING WRITER, NATIONAL MORTGAGE PROFESSIONAL MAGAZINE
Let’s dig deeper into why this year has been stressful and examine tactics for managing stress and how to set yourself up for a more successful 2025.
It’s stressful for everyone right now, no matter what industry you’re in. However, salespeople have been hit particularly hard. In a survey of sales professionals across industries, 67% of sales reps reported that they don’t expect to meet their quota this year, and 53% of sales professionals say it’s harder to sell than a year ago.
It’s a stressful time for borrowers too, especially with less-than-optimal conditions for one of the most important
financial decisions you can make in your lifetime. Borrowers want to make sure they are getting good rates and good prices so that their home is a sustainable investment. If your borrower is cranky on the phone, don’t take it personally. They’ve been tasked with making an important life decision in an incredibly challenging market.
Lenders are feeling the pain of the market as well. With less loan volume, margins get smaller and smaller and everyone has to do more with less.
So how do you effectively manage stress during a time like this? There are a lot of factors outside your con-
trol — the state of the market, the results of the election, and the busyness that comes with the holidays, to name a few.
Regardless of the stressors you may be experiencing, it’s important not to let them take a toll on your mental health. It can be easy to let the negativity in the news and even in your own office get to you. The silver lining is, no matter how the business looks right now, it will not be that way forever. One thing you can always count on is the consistency of change in the mortgage industry. So, what can you do?
Change your mindset. Instead of looking at what’s going wrong, spend your time examining what is going right.
To remedy the stress and uncertainty of whatever situation you find yourself in, it’s good to start by focusing on the positive, including what you have accomplished. How many transactions did you complete this year? What type of transactions did you make? Do you have any repeat borrowers or any new borrowers? Did you establish any new relationships? When you start to take inventory, you will likely find that you did more business or made more progress toward your goals than you think you did.
Regardless of how it feels, it won’t always be like this. The mortgage industry is resilient, and it always bounces back. In the meantime, take advantage of the slower times to focus on improving your knowledge of the industry. What is something you’ve always wanted to learn more about, but haven’t had the time to? Now is your chance to take the time to learn and grow.
Look into new ways to expand your reach. What is a new loan product that is gaining popularity or what is a new segment of borrowers you could work on gaining traction with?
You can also take this time to educate potential buyers on the benefits of owning a home when it comes to building wealth. While many borrowers you talk to may not be ready in this current market, you have a prime opportunity to build relationships and prep them for whenever the market decides to take a more favorable turn.
As the new year is on the horizon, get started as soon as possible to stay ahead of this consistently changing industry. As Marcus Aurelius said, “If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself but to your own estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment.” So, no matter what 2025 throws at you, approach it with a new mindset. Being able to effectively manage stress is a skill you not only need in the difficult time, but in the good times, too. There will always be stressors, but how you respond to them makes all the difference for you and for your business.■
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The boutique approach, albeit not as profitable as big box lenders, offers a personable approach to lending that some argue is a dying art
BY SARAH WOLAK, STAFF WRITER, NATIONAL MORTGAGE PROFESSIONAL MAGAZINE
In today’s fast-paced, automated world, where generic solutions are often marketed as universally applicable and customer service is increasingly outsourced to automated systems like online chatbots, the personalized approach of boutique mortgage lenders can easily be overshadowed. Unlike large-scale lenders like United Wholesale Mortgage (UWM) and Rocket Mortgage, whose brand recognition and streamlined processes make them appear more accessible and dependable, boutique mortgage lenders operate differently.
These specialized firms focus on providing tailored services and customized loan products, often catering to a specific type of buyer or niche market. Unlike their larger counterparts, boutique lenders prioritize the individual needs and goals of each borrower, offering a more personalized experience. This might include taking the time to understand a client’s financial situation, offering flexible loan terms, or providing guidance throughout the entire mortgage process.
However, this hand-holding approach can sometimes be overlooked in favor of the perceived convenience and reliability of big-box lenders, which may offer more standardized products and faster turnaround times. The boutique experience is not about volume or handling high-value transactions; it’s about ensuring that each borrower receives the attention and support needed to make informed decisions that align with their unique financial goals.
While boutique mortgage companies do exist, their presence is limited, and there
isn’t a widespread industry movement toward adopting this model. The allure of a boutique approach may appeal to some, but it hasn’t gained significant traction across the broader market.
Mike Cush, a freelance mortgage consultant, former vice president, and COO of Union Plus Mortgage Company, shared his perspective on why boutique models may not always succeed.
“Most U.S. banks don’t differentiate on mortgage lending as it is only a piece of the overall offering. Most IMBs (Independent Mortgage Banks) are started by or run by someone who was once a loan officer, and they grow by recruiting additional loan officers to capture leads. They don’t typically have a strong customer-facing value proposition because their success or failure depends largely on the performance of the loan officers they hire,” Cush explained. “In contrast, servicers take a different approach as their primary focus is on managing the asset. Since servicing is a low-margin business, they can’t afford to differentiate based on service delivery, resulting in a lack of brand loyalty.”
unique value proposition in a market where success is often determined by the performance of individual loan officers. This contrasts sharply with servicers, who, despite their operational differences, also struggle with creating brand loyalty due to the inherent limitations of their business model. As a result, the boutique model remains an intriguing but largely unadopted approach in the mortgage industry, with systemic factors favoring more traditional structures.
Amato said she chose to build her business up and brand it as boutique because it suits how she likes to do business.
“Purchasing a home is the largest investment of a lifetime. Some people do not want in-person. They do not want boutique. They want to just upload their documents, and that’s fine. I’m a people person. I like to connect on all levels with their needs, and also just emotionally,” she explained. “It’s a big decision, and there [are] a lot of questions that most people purchasing a home have.”
Cush’s perspective highlights a critical challenge faced by boutique mortgage firms: the difficulty of establishing a
Irene Amato of A.S.A.P Mortgage Corp. runs a bona fide boutique brokerage that’s proven to be a profitable business model for her business goals. A.S.A.P’s website boasts a specialties section — a value proposition to its customers — that boasts multilingual licensed loan originators who speak Albanian, Farsi, Hebrew, Mandarin, and Spanish, as well as specializations such as umbo loans, refinance loans, debt consolidation, FHA home loans, VA loans, USDA, 203k renovation loans, construction loans, and first-time home buyer loans. The company also holds a certification as a Military Housing specialist with the USA Cares program.
In the loan process, communication is key, especially for first-time buyers. Amato wrote a book called “Home at Last!” as a guide for all borrowers going through the home buying process, focusing on advice for buyers who might need an individualized approach, including single purchasers, self-employed, post-bankruptcy, and veterans.
The catered approach shouldn’t just apply to the mortgage business, Amato argues. “If I’m hiring a plumber, an architect, anything I’m doing, I want to be able to feel comfortable and have an advocate, not just a company,” she said. “I feel like when you go to a mortgage company to apply for a mortgage with a large lender or these companies that are mass production where they’re doing volume that is ridiculous, you have to lose something. I spoke to someone who said, ‘Oh, we do massive volume and we talk to every single client.’ There’s not enough time physically in the day to do that.”
Amato compared the big box lending style to fast fashion. “You’re not going to get the same service going to a Saks Fifth Avenue to purchase a dress that
you would if you went to a personalized dressmaker,” she quipped.
The specialties don’t end with residential loans. Monica Lubin, a Nashville-based real estate investor, broker, and private money lender for Keep Leading Spirit, a dba of Genovations Realty that specializes in buying and
selling homes. Run by Lubin and her husband, Kevin Lubin, the duo specializes in getting new investors into the ring. Both Monica and Kevin are new to the lending industry — about three months in — but have been fixing and flipping houses for over a year in Tennessee.
Lubin highlights her primary clientele as individuals with lower credit scores. “I think the majority of my clientele is people who have anywhere from 500 through 620 credit scores,” Monica admits. “Of course, I can go a little bit lower to 400, but I usually, when it is
400, connect them with credit repair resources and professionals.”
She emphasizes that working with less experienced borrowers and those with lower credit scores represents a longer-term investment compared to more seasoned clients. It also requires more detailed attention and management throughout the transaction.
lationship with our clients where we’re like, ‘Okay, how’s your day going?’ And just being encouraging. I have clients [who] always reach out and they’re like, ‘Hey, Monica, can you give me extra support today? I’m feeling a little bit discouraged.’ Investments are hard,” Monica said. This supportive approach underscores the company’s commitment to not just financial
“If I’m hiring a plumber, an architect, anything I’m doing, I want to be able to feel comfortable and have an advocate, not just a company.”
> Irene Amato, CEO, A.S.A.P Mortgage Corp.
“For my client to qualify for, let’s say, a DSCR loan, [they] have to have preferably a 700 credit score if they want to get 75% cashback. I would go the extra mile to make sure that we can work something out to get that 75% cashback,” she said. In a recent transaction, Monica and Kevin were able to secure 100% financing for a client in Delaware, with Kevin stepping in as a joint venture partner.
Additionally, Keep Leading Spirit operates from a Christian-based ethos, which Monica says influences their client interactions. “We do have that re-
transactions but also personal connections and encouragement throughout the investment journey.
Despite the dominance of large-scale lenders, boutique mortgage companies like A.S.A.P Mortgage Corp. and Keep Leading Spirit demonstrate that personalized, tailored service still has a place in the industry. While large lenders offer efficiency, boutique firms provide a more human touch, appealing to clients who value connection over convenience. Though niche, this approach offers a compelling alternative in a fast-paced industry. n
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When there’s nothing to take the edge off, you have an edge
BY ERICA DRZEWIECKI, STAFF WRITER, NATIONAL MORTGAGE PROFESSIONAL MAGAZINE
When he launched his mortgage career at age 19, Tony Blodgett wasn’t even old enough to order a beer.
“I was invited to get drinks after work and I’m like, I can’t even go to the bar,” recalled Blodgett, 47, now Executive Vice President of National Sales at New American Funding.
Less than a year later, while attending his first mortgage conference, Blodgett quickly noticed how the line between business and pleasure blurred together when industry professionals got together to talk shop.
Business deals have long been sealed over cocktails; closings commemorated with a special bottle. Meeting timelines in a high-stakes environment invites indulging oneself and taking a load off at the end of the day. And schmoozing during the height of the holiday season usually involves a cocktail or two.
But Blodgett, like an increasing number of other business professionals, does without the imbibing these days.
“After the conference, everyone was down at the pool and hot tub drinking, and some of the top producers in the industry were fighting over who got to pay the tab,” Blodgett remembered. “With sales professions in general, I feel like there’s this culture around drinking. A big part of getting business is going to events. Alcohol offers that social lubrication that makes networking easier for a lot of people.”
“Man, I wake up with so much more energy,” Blodgett says. “I’m so much clearer in my mind. I can go to networking events and not worry, did I have too many cocktails to where I shouldn’t be driving home? Do I gotta get an Uber, things like that. This just no longer becomes an issue … There were times [when] I look back at events I was at, and [I was] like, man, did I have too many drinks? Did I leave there feeling like I had represented myself the best way that I could? I think the answer is clearly no to those.”
Blodgett’s journey to sobriety began when he decided to do ‘Sober October’ in 2019 after listening to a podcast discussion between comedian Nikki Glaser and podcaster Joe Rogan on the topic.
“I had talked to one of my business coaches, someone in the mortgage industry who recommended that I maybe try taking a break once a
year, and so I kind of landed on the sober October thing,” he added.
Glaser, who had already embraced sobriety, mentioned she was inspired by a book, Allen Carr’s Easy Way To Control Alcohol. Blodgett found he could relate, recalling his departure from cigarettes years earlier, aided by Carr’s Easy Way To Stop Smoking. He downloaded the other book upon Glaser’s review.
“This was probably around the middle of October. I had not been drinking for a week or two and I still had the whole month to go. It’s a pretty short book so I listened to it in just a few days. And honestly, when I got done, I didn’t really think much about how it would impact my decision to drink in the future.”
But Blodgett reached the end of October. While at a friend’s house with his kids going trick or treating, a friend asked, “Hey, you want a beer?”
Blodgett declined, and his friend said “Tony, it’s October 31st. You’re there. It’s okay.”
But Blodgett just didn’t feel like it, and that was that.
“I just felt so good during those 30 days. I didn’t feel like I needed to reintroduce alcohol into my routine,” he reasoned.
Then came the holidays, and all the gatherings. Blodgett abstained, and people noticed.
“Honestly, it felt very awkward to me. I found myself ordering a non-alcoholic beer or a club soda with a lime in a short glass,” he said. “People who knew I wasn’t drinking were like, ‘What happened? Why’d you quit? Are you gonna quit forever?’ Nothing had happened, I
just had made that decision.”
As the new year rolled in, Blodgett decided to stay sober for 2020, and it paid off, especially when the COVID-19 pandemic brought the housing finance industry to a crossroads.
“A lot of people actually accelerated their drinking during COVID. I was at my sharpest. I really feel like it gave me an advantage during a really challenging time,” Blodgett recalled.
Rates were all over the place, uncertainty loomed; then things started really ramping up for the mortgage industry.
“It got really busy and I was able to really be on point to manage that,” he said.
When New Year’s Eve 2020 came upon him, Blodgett poured himself a bourbon.
“I just didn’t want there to be some weird situation where I wasn’t in control of my decision to drink. I wanted to feel like I was in control of it. So that started off just fine. I said, hey, I broke the
“People are like, ‘You’re so young. Do you think you’ll ever drink again?’ There’s no way to answer that other than, ‘one day at a time. I’m just not going to drink today.’ ”
> Eric Braun, Chief Growth Officer, Interstate Home Loan Center
seal, now I can casually drink. But I’ll be honest with you … within a few weeks, I was back to my normal drinking habits.”
This continued until April 2023, when Blodgett decided to do 75 Hard, a 75-day transformation challenge started by Andy Frisella, podcaster, entrepreneur, and CEO of the supplement company 1st Phorm. The challenge required several different commitments, one of which was abstaining from alcohol.
He was never “a problem drinker,” Blodgett asserted, but the time off had made him realize a personal potential that was once invisible.
“There’s no way that I was performing at my highest and best all the time because that only happens — in my opinion — when you’re completely clear-minded and not taking any alcohol.”
He revisited the book that helped him quit originally, then dropped drinking when his 75-day challenge began on May 1, 2023, and has been sober ever since.
“You know, it’s been a year and a few months, but this time for me it’s different because I don’t feel awkward when people ask me about it,” he said. “After seeing how I felt for those 15 months and how I felt for the two years afterward when I chose to indulge in drinking again, I’ve made a very conscious decision that for me, abstaining from alcohol 100% is not a difficult thing to do. It fits in very well with my lifestyle.”
Blodgett recommends the book he read to others who find themselves on a similar journey.
“I’m certainly not the only person in the mortgage industry who’s choosing to give up alcohol. Matter of fact, I know quite a few of them at this point because you tend to recognize those people when you go to these events and they are highly successful individuals. Look at most CEOs, people that are really achieving at a high level. I think it’s next to impossible to reach the real pinnacle of your own success if you’re setting yourself up to be foggy when you wake up in the mornings. You have to look at the
positives of what you’re going to receive from it, and maybe that will help propel you through this thought of missing out on something.”
Tim Davis, chief growth officer at Canopy Mortgage and CEO of The Originator’s Guide, is one of those high-achieving executives.
“Prior to me joining the mortgage business, during college, we drank and partied way too much,” Davis told NMP. “One night we ended up locking one of our roommates in the trunk of a car, and we didn’t find him until the middle of the next day. I just said, ‘That’s it’ and I haven’t had a drop to drink since.”
At that time, the 53-year-old Nashville resident and Dallas native was studying the arts. He has been sober since about age 20.
“I never met anyone in my life who said this statement: ‘My life improved and got so much better since I started drinking.’ Anytime you don’t taint yourself with any kind of alcohol or drugs you’re going to live a healthier life; absolutely it translates into business and personal success,” Davis observed.
If you run into Davis at a mortgage conference, his drink of choice is a Diet Coke.
He and Blodgett are both accustomed to being around family, friends, and colleagues who drink alcohol, and it’s not a big deal to them.
“I don’t judge. I have beer in my fridge right now. I have a wine fridge full of wine,” Blodgett said. “It’s never been a thing where I feel compelled to drink
if it’s around.”
He still goes to all the same happy hours and networking events, but it is more apparent to him when someone else has had a bit too much.
“I think everybody has this point where they cross over from it just slightly reducing their inhibitions to turning them into someone who maybe loses their filter, talks about things that maybe shouldn’t be talked about, or just gets to a place of inebriation and probably shouldn’t be in a business setting at those times. My tolerance for that is probably lower than it was when I was right there with them having a few drinks.”
The libations are handcrafted and plentiful during events like Beer & Real Estate and Wine & Real Estate, hosted by Chief Growth Officer at Interstate Home Loan Center, Eric Braun.
The 29-yearold resident of Brooklyn, NY brings together real estate
“I never met anyone in my life who said this statement: ‘My life improved and got so much better since I started drinking.’ ”
> Tim Davis, chief growth officer, Canopy Mortgage and CEO, The Originator’s Guide
agents, loan officers and other housing finance professionals over food and drink during several yearly events.
“The last brewery event that we had, there were over 500 people and most were drinking,” Braun says.
One person that wasn’t? Him.
“I’ve actually never had a legal drink, I like to say. I’ve had plenty of illegal ones, but I got sober when I was 20 years old,” Braun said. “It’ll be nine years since I’ve had any mind-or mood-altering substances, God willing, August 22.”
Braun speaks to teens at his old high school each year about his sober journey.
“I went from struggling emotionally, spiritually, physically due to addiction and everything that comes with it, to coming out the other side, being of service and not only in the capacity of helping hopefully other struggling addicts and alcoholics but also service to our clients and everybody on our team,” he said.
Braun’s approach with being sober is to take each day one at a time.
“People are like, ‘You’re so young. Do you think you’ll ever drink again?’ There’s no way to answer that other than, ‘One day at a time. I’m just not going to drink today.’”
He was taught that mentality, along with the fact that it’s smart to stay away from situations where one might be tempted early on in their journey.
“Being a person like myself, to not desire alcohol or substances is like a miracle,” Braun explained. “But I believe addiction is a disease, and I have to respect my disease. There’s a saying that if you go to the barber shop every day eventually you’ll get a haircut. I think that’s 100% true.”
Braun did the work, put himself in positive environments, and transcended the grip of drugs and alcohol. Now, he says, he isn’t even tempted when out with friends. This also appears to be true in a video of him on Facebook, where he can be seen
walking across a vineyard with a glass of wine to promote this year’s Wine-RE event.
“I think after you’ve had a spiritual experience like I’ve had and you have a foundation, then sobriety should be free. If you are hiding and still operating that way, then you’re not quite free yet. Nowadays I go out to these places and I don’t even realize people are drinking. Like it’s completely removed from my world.”
Without a doubt, the mortgage industry is a high-stress one at times. Fluctuating rates, losing out on deals, squashing homeownership dreams, and the potential for all this and more are out there waiting for one misstep.
“There’s a lot of pressure,” Blodgett admitted. “When it’s busy in our industry, people definitely get overworked and really have to put in the extra time and hours.”
Drinking to “take the edge off” and be more sociable at networking events and conferences can be avoided with simple preparation, according to Blodgett.
“I think I would just remind people that you are who you are regardless of the alcohol,” he said. “It might make you a little more willing to go up and talk to someone that you might otherwise not talk to; you might be more willing to ask for business; it tends to lower your inhibitions a little bit. But I think that could be accomplished through training, scripting, and being mentally prepared on what you want to accomplish at a networking event.”
A goal might be to introduce oneself to five strangers. Think of an introduc-
tion and how to make the other person feel comfortable enough to exchange business cards.
“Maybe do a bit more preparation,” Blodgett added. “When you go to a networking event make sure that you get out of it what you want. You can absolutely accomplish that through mindset, training, and preparedness, without having to rely on alcohol to give you that courage.”
Being an addict is just that, according to Braun. It has nothing to do with your profession.
“Listen, our industry is stressful,” he says. “There’s a lot of pressure on us from all parties, almost on all transactions, it seems, especially right now. But we can’t use the excuse of, ‘how can I ever do this sober? How can I deal with borrowers and Realtors and everybody without having a drink at night? Everybody does it. It’s accepted.’ Those are all just justifications to the fact that you think you have a problem.”
“A lot of people actually accelerated their drinking during COVID. [Because I didn’t] I was at my sharpest. I really feel like it gave me an advantage during a really challenging time.”
> Tony Blodgett, EVP, National Sales, New American Funding
Braun began his mortgage career as a telemarketer and worked his way through the ranks. Now he manages a division of about 50 people, in addition to being a loan officer and working on recruitment and marketing initiatives.
“If you look closely enough, you’ll find that there’s a lot of people there that aren’t drinking or they may just have one drink,” he says of industry events these days. “I think it’s important to differentiate between somebody who drinks and somebody who has a problem. I’m an addict, so I can’t drink or do substances successfully. There are plenty of people who can and accepting that early on in my sobriety journey was one of the keys to me achieving long-term sobriety. I admitted I was powerless and my life had become unmanageable. I had to adopt that belief early on so that I can see things a little bit clearer and navigate those environments.”
Braun encourages other mortgage professionals who think they might have a substance abuse problem to be honest with themselves and find a mentor who can help them work through it.
Even as they live sober and lead successful careers in mortgage, these pros aren’t without any vices.
“I’m definitely not a monk by any means,” Braun says. “I don’t ever want to portray that image where I’m super-disciplined, wake up at 4:30 a.m., do meditation … that’s not me at all. I fall short a lot and I have other vices that are just not as detrimental in the short term, I would say, as drugs and alcohol.”
Talk to his friends, family, and girlfriends, and they would say that he loves working — maybe a little too much sometimes. But because of his past experiences with addiction, he knows when to reign it in and take a step back.
“When I’m stressed, I like to work. When I’m happy, I like to work,” Braun says. “There are points throughout my week or every few months where I have to try to get back some level of balance.” n
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> Matt Oliver and Lisa Lund — she brings precision to operations while he focuses on client care, making them a blend of strategy and service. As a couple and business partners, Matt and Lisa carry forward a legacy of integrity, showing that a strong partnership can be the foundation for lasting client relationships.
BY ERICA DRZEWIECKI, STAFF WRITER, NATIONAL MORTGAGE PROFESSIONAL MAGAZINE
Matt Oliver joined Lund Mortgage in 2007 and married Lisa Lund in 2008. Albeit ironic that the global financial crisis was occurring mid-hire and mid-nuptials, the company — and the couple — stand solid to this day.
It was in 2005 during Arizona’s Phoenix Open (now the Waste Management Open) that Oliver and Lund first met.
“It was 19 years ago on a Saturday. We just had it here this past weekend,” she says. “I was there with a wholesale lender and he was there with his friends.”
Oliver was working for Chase Bank at the time, taking loan applications retail. Lund had been with her dad Stan Lund’s company about as long as she can remember, or at least since she asked for a 10key calculator around her eighth birthday.
“He asked me what I did and I told him I was a mortgage broker,” she recalls of the first conversation she ever had with the man who would become her husband, the father of their children, and today, senior loan consultant at Lund Mortgage, which she now brokers and owns.
Oliver jokingly asked Lund that fateful day why
anybody would go to a broker (instead of a bank) for a loan. “So I clearly explained it to him, and in 2007, I stole him over to the wholesale side.”
The mortgage business went into crisis mode about a year later and for the first time in his career, Oliver witnessed a mass meltdown of loan officers across the industry.
“I just kept saying to myself at that point, I don’t ever want to be in that position,” he recalls.
So when the market was hot from 2019 to 2021 Oliver didn’t roll in the riches. He buckled down with eyes on the horizon in preparation for the market downturn, which inevitably came.
“It was like shooting fish in a barrel to do loans in 2020 and 2021, but it wasn’t going to last forever. We’ve always kind of taken it as a good omen to remember the clients we’ve dealt with and come back to work with them. I think that’s why this past year was a little bit better because we did have a lot of returning clients come back to us.”
Oliver had more refinance volume and refi transactions than any other one of NMP’s Leading LOs of 2024, featured in the magazine’s April issue. His total refi volume for 2023, as printed, was $31,236,943 for 184 units. He also had $39,630,242 in purchase
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> Lisa Lund, owner, Lund Mortgage
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volume among 102 units, bringing his total loan volume for the year to $70,867,185, or 286 units.
He refers to Lund, his wife, as “a jack of all trades in this industry” and “a genius underwriter.”
The late Stan Lund, who passed away in 2014, started working in mortgage around 1981, for a home thrift and loan bank. When his daughter started her own business in 2009, he served as a key consultant right up until his passing.
“I feel that I was born into this business,” Lund says. “Ever since I was little, my dad would do ‘take your daughter to work day’ and I fell in love with the business from then on.”
She always liked math and seeing how her dad and his staff helped people get into homes.
In high school Lund started working at the shop, stacking files and helping with audits. She worked her way up from receptionist, to junior processor, processor, manager, and loan officer before taking over the business.
But Lund credits her father with ingraining the company ethos in all he touched.
“My dad left a great legacy and so many things to learn from,” she says. “In fact, when I was at the golf tournament this weekend, I ran into a client who remembered how my father came to his living room and sat down with him for his very first refinance and explained everything.”
That approach is one that she and her team hold paramount to this day.
“My dad taught me the old school mentality of what it means to work with clients and not just treat them as a number and to care about them,” Lund explains. “We brought the technology and the willingness to learn the technology part of it, but he brought so many good things that we carry on to this day about putting the client first and really understanding their needs. He really taught us to sit down, analyze everything and look at everyone’s individual situation separately. To say, we’re not here just to close this transaction for you. We want to be your lifetime mortgage consultant. We’re going to look out for you. If rates drop or if we feel that we could put your family in a better situation down the road, we’re always going to be here for you.”
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“This philosophy translates into lots of refinance transactions at the company, and in Oliver’s portfolio.
“The database is probably the most valuable tool that any loan officer could have in this profession,” he says. “If you’re not keeping track of your
But in cases where a refi won’t do a client any good, Oliver will be the first to let them know.
“We pride ourselves on giving sound advice,” he says. “At the end of the day, it just comes back to if you’re doing what’s best for the client at all times, and if they can feel that, if they can understand
> Lisa Lund, on how she and her husband each contribute to their company’s success.
past clients and you’re not touching base with them and you’re not sending birthday cards or anything else, it’s worthless in my opinion. It’s worthless to not be doing that.”
While some mortgage companies play strictly for one team or the other, Lund prides itself on being both a purchase and a refi shop.
“I think it’s crazy to be fully committed to just one channel. We’ve definitely been more refinance dominant than purchase dominant, but we never took the purchase sector out of our business model,” Oliver says. “I think being proficient in both purchases and refinances, you should be able to retain those clients if you’re always doing what’s best for them. In today’s world, it seems like a lot of loan officers want to create these efficiencies with technology and be able to just talk to the client for three to five minutes and have their processor handle everything from then on out. To me, that’s bad business.Those people aren’t going to remember who you are in the transaction. There’s no reason for them to come back to you.”
that that’s what you’re doing for them, they’re always going to trust your advice in the future.”
Preserving the family legacy is important to Lund, whose oldest son is now working right alongside her.
“Our main goal is making sure our clients are satisfied,” she says. “So they’re going to come back to us. They’re going to send their children to us. They’re going to send their family members, their coworkers to us.”
That drove her decision to get licensed in other states outside of Arizona.
“We really branded ourselves in Arizona where everyone knows who we are. We decided last year to start getting licensed in other states, which is something I never thought we would do. But we saw a need for it when our current clients were reaching out, saying ‘hey, I have a family member here. We’re moving here.’ ”
Tackling challenges like this one are what keep Lund and her team growing every day.
“Like anything else, there’s always challenges, but I absolutely love it,” she says. “One of the things I like to say is that everyone excels in their own space and what they’re good at. So learn to work together instead of against each other. Matt is wonderful on the phones. He’s great at talking to the clients, helping them understand, and I am more the operational, detailed brain of it, hence the underwriting. I like to solve the problems and he likes to bring them to me.”
As a married couple who work together, Oliver and Lund have accumulated some good stories over the years.
“I did write him up one time and everyone thought that was funny because he is my husband,” she recalls. “Just navigating through this industry together and all the times, having the common goals and understanding to stay in each other’s own lane, but really supporting each other, I think has been a big thing for us. Not trying to overstep on the other person, but understanding what their strengths are and really pushing that forward.”
Oliver is a big Kansas City Chiefs fan, so football is often a conversation starter or bridge out in the field.
“Just trying to create lasting impressions on these clients so that they always want to come back to me for transactions with them,” he says. “Plus a lot of times they’re telling their neighbors, friends, cousins, or brothers, ‘hey go use Matt Oliver at Lund Mortgage. I felt like he treated me right. He understands what our needs are and took the time to go through all that stuff.’ That stuff is so powerful and so important, and I feel like a lot of loan officers get away from that in today’s world. They just want to get the tech stack set up and try to turn these as fast as possible. You really need to nurture the clients if you want them to keep coming back. I think being a little bit more personable with the clients rather than just looking to pass them through your tech stack is crucial in this industry.”
He’s done loans for three generations of one fam-
ily, and a half-a-dozen mortgages for the same client in less than a decade.
One of Oliver’s closest referral partners is DeLex Realty agent Brad Sikes, who is also based in Arizona.
“He’s probably my closest business ally and partner and we’ve never actually met face to face,” Sikes says.
The first transaction he ever did with Oliver was around 11 years ago. Since then they’ve worked together on 100-plus deals, according to Sikes’ estimation.
“I value his honesty and integrity and knowledge of the business,” he says. “He’s not trying to get every last penny on every deal — he’s in it for the long haul. Matt cares about the process and the person — the business will take care of itself.”
Oliver even sends clients his way on the regular — a perk that real estate agents don’t always expect from an LO.
“I can’t tell you another agent who has ever gotten a referral from their lenders,” Sikes says.
But the exchange goes both ways. Sikes will give Oliver a call when he has a client who might not be able to afford the deal another lender has put forward.
“I can confidently tell people I’m going to save you $5,000 to $10,000 because I get Matt involved.”
He went on to call Oliver and Lund “absolutely the best people.”
Learning their story inspires other mortgage professionals, especially during the tough times.
“We really built our company during one of the worst times in mortgage,” Lund says. “And if we can make it through that and still be married, then any market is possible for anyone. There’s always a light no matter what you’re faced with. You can’t control the markets, but you can control how you deal with them. Remember why you love doing what you do, go back to the basics, understand your clients.” n
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Chris Shank didn’t let his disabled veteran status stop him from diving head-first into the mortgage industry
BY SARAH WOLAK, STAFF WRITER, NATIONAL MORTGAGE PROFESSIONAL MAGAZINE
In one swift motion, Chris Shank propelled himself into the mortgage industry just as he did during the 2024 Originator Connect conference in Las Vegas: unapologetically. Just shy of being six months into a field that has been notoriously unforgiving in recent years, Shank made a lasting impression at the event’s Mega Broker Brawl by whipping out his credit card and pledging $1,000 for Homes For Our Troops.
The Broker Brawl, a highlight of the conference, brought together some of the nation’s top brokers and originators in a head-to-head competition showcasing their platforms. Attendees cast their votes for the winner by making donations to Homes For Our Troops, an organization dedicated to designing and building homes for severely injured veterans. Shank’s pledge of $1,000 of his own money to Homes For Our Troops was no publicity stunt — it came from a deeply personal place.
As a disabled veteran himself, Shank’s contribution wasn’t just financial; it was a symbol of his dedication to both his new career and the veteran community.
Shank’s $1,000 donation wasn’t easy for him.
As a new father from Clarksville, Tennessee, he had traveled across the country, leaving his wife and newborn behind to attend the event.
“I hesitated at first,” Shank admitted. “My baby was just three weeks old, but my wife said, ‘This is your chance to do something meaningful. Go, make connections, and learn.’ So I went, determined to seize every opportunity.”
And seize it he did. After hopping on stage and urging others to donate, Shank shared his personal story with the crowd. With humility, he revealed that the shirt he wore — ordered just days before on Amazon for $24.99 — was the newest piece of clothing he had bought in years. Since becoming a loan officer just a few months ago, Shank had already made more money than at any point in his career; so he challenged the audience of top producers to reflect on their own salaries and consider giving back.
Shank, 31, described his younger self as an undisciplined high schooler who “really didn’t know what to do with my life, except that college was not in the cards.” He joined the U.S. Marine Corps in 2011 after graduation, working in cybersecurity.
“They gave me some discipline, gave me a backbone, taught me how to exercise, and allowed me to just do fun things,” he said. “I spent close to 10 years traveling the world, seeing new places, learning interesting and terrifying facts about the world that we live in, met some of the best darn people in my life, and generally had a fulfilling career, helping make the world better. Every time I’d be able to go home, my dad would tell me that he was proud of me because I was literally doing what I could in order to make this country better.”
> Chris Shank, a disabled U.S. Marine Corps veteran, donated $1,000 at the 2024 Originator Connect conference to Homes For Our Troops, an organization supporting injured veterans.
“I’M THE JUNIOR GUY IN EVERY ROOM THAT I WALK INTO. EVERYBODY AROUND HERE HAS SUCCEEDED IN THE FIELD THAT I WANT TO SUCCEED IN. SO WHEN
I TALK TO SOMEBODY, I’M GOING TO LEARN SOMETHING FROM THEM.”
> Chris Shank
Yet, Shank’s military career came to a tragic end shortly before reaching that 10-year milestone. A cancer scare had compelled him to undergo corrective surgery, which went disastrously wrong. The procedure left his lung and stomach fused together, forcing him to undergo a second corrective surgery. But the ordeal didn’t end there — Shank was later warned that he faced an almost certain risk of developing esophageal cancer within a few years.
“I elected for them to simply remove most of my small intestine and stomach, rerouted everything, and no more growing risk of cancer,” Shank said. “Unfortunately, that came with a couple of medical side effects, one of the big ones is they can’t really deploy me anymore because feeding me in a deployed environment is not going to be the easiest thing.”
After being forced into medical retirement in 2020, Shank was back in the market for a
job. Feeling uncertain of what to do next, he joined forces with his father, Tim, at Shelter Insurance Companies, for a short period. The father-son duo also run a nonprofit called BizVets CONNECT to empower local veteran-owned small businesses by connecting them with expert business support. While the nonprofit has worked out, Shank admits insurance wasn’t for him.
“Unfortunately, the insurance industry is a terrifying beast right now,” Shank candidly admitted. “Several agencies around town straight up went out of business. We faced so many losses within our own book of business that our income basically became half. And dad and I can’t split half of a man’s salary and live comfortably.”
Concerned about how to provide for his growing family, Shank took a chance based on a friend’s recommendation and went after his NMLS license.
> Chris Shank and his father, Tim, winning a Clarksville’s Best award for the categories of insurance agency and nonprofit organization. In their free time, the father and son run a nonprofit called BizVets CONNECT to empower local veteran-owned and veteranfriendly small businesses with the training and visibility they need to survive in an economy that’s often unfriendly to business startups.
“HE’S REFRESHING. YOU RUN INTO PEOPLE IN LIFE, AND HE’S JUST REFRESHING. HE’S GOT A VERY POSITIVE OUTLOOK, BUT HE’S A REALIST, RIGHT?
SO HE KNOWS WHAT HE’S DEALING WITH, BUT HE CARRIES HIMSELF IN A MANNER THAT IS JUST ELECTRIFYING THE PEOPLE.”
> Ross Wright
After passing the NMLS exam, Shank says he found NEXA through God. While attending a UWM training event, Shank met (William) Ross Wright, a branch manager and senior loan officer for AXEN Mortgage, a DBA of NEXA. “I met him and we started talking about the importance of acting on faith,” Shank said, noting that he was drawn to Wright’s similar religious beliefs. “His motto is to make God your business partner. So we shared that belief and fast forward a couple of months, he reached out and invited me to join him and his team at AXEN. And I, again, did some praying, talked to the wifey, and decided that this was something I needed to take a risk on.”
Wright, now Shank’s team lead, calls Shank “a
breath of fresh air,” saying that his energy is what led him to recruit Shank.
“He’s refreshing. You run into people in life, and he’s just refreshing. He’s got a very positive outlook, but he’s a realist, right? So he knows what he’s dealing with, but he carries himself in a manner that is just electrifying the people,” Wright said. “Every person on my team, as soon as they meet him within a very short period, is just gushing about him.”
Dan Denniston, a recruiter and senior LO at NEXA, as well as a Loan Officer Support expert, is someone Shank credits with helping him get his footing during his first few months as an LO. Denniston credits Shank with being able to remember why he does what he does. “It gives me new energy when someone [like
Chris] is that inspired, that invigorated,” Denniston said. “I’ve been doing this for a while but getting around someone with that type of energy is always very fun and exciting. And I was front row at that conference [when Chris hopped the stage], and he moved me.”
Only a few months into his lending career, Shank says he’s most surprised by the possibilities this industry allows for himself and his clientele. “I became a homeowner in 2022, and it was my loan officer that allowed me to get the house that I live in. There was an issue with my bank, they misfiled something, and underwriting was prepared to just kick my loan because there were a bunch of red flags that popped up,” he explained. “My loan officer walked me through how to fix that, and I was super grateful for him.”
Shank, who bought his house using a VA loan, says he never thought he would be able to achieve homeownership. And he used his experience buying a home to embrace a specialty.
“I began specializing in VA loans by studying the manual and debunking a common myth that sellers can only contribute 4% in concessions. After reaching out to 85 local realtors, I found that only one knew the correct rule — that there’s actually a way to exceed the 4% limit,” Shank said. “Most assumed the 4% was set in stone. So my whole thing is there’s knowledge out there, and you can share it with people to make lives better. And not as many people are motivated to snag that knowledge as I would have initially hoped.”
Plus, a military base has worked out for Shank, who says that about 70% of all loans originated in Clarksville are VA loans.
Wright says he admires Shank’s giving back to
the Veteran community. “Chris has been able to unlock the door for many, many veterans. I know he’s got some stories already, just in his short period. I’ve been doing this for 25 years. Chris has been doing it for less than a year. And this guy is racking up all these stories from veterans that he’s pulling out of the fire who are being taken advantage of by big box banks,” he said.
NEXA CEO Mike Kortas has high expectations for Shank to “flourish” in the industry. “He is an exciting individual. I just met him at that event and as anyone can see, he quickly became a force,” Kortas said. “For him to just take charge and help like that was amazing. He is new to the industry but already making a huge splash. No doubt he will be a huge part of NEXAnation and we are already making plans to further get him to help in many aspects.”
Before Shank wraps up his first year as a loan officer, there are a few goals on his list to knock out. “I want to break six figures on an income. That is enough to completely pull my family out of our minor debts, not counting cars and houses, [but] enough to set back a sizable chunk of change for personal investments,” he said, adding that he also hopes to complete a few non-QM loans and make an on-stage appearance at NEXA Fest., NEXA’s annual conference held in October. But more than that, Shank is just happy to learn.
“I’m the junior guy in every room that I walk into. Everybody around here has succeeded in the field that I want to succeed in. So when I talk to somebody, I’m going to learn something from them,” he said. “When I attend a conference or a training event, I’m going to learn something because the better that I can build myself up, the better I can take care of people when I leave.” n
For those lenders who work with military members and veterans, it’s not just about profit and losses. Rather, it’s an opportunity to serve the heroes who served all of us. For many lenders, finding homes for these heroes is the most meaningful part of their careers.
Help us celebrate those lenders who go above and beyond to serve military members, their spouses, and veterans. ★
Why does this lender serve those who serve to protect?
Supporting our nation’s heroes for all they sacrifice is embedded in loanDepot’s DNA. We recognize the VA mortgage loan as one of the most powerful tools our veterans and active-duty service members have earned and we are committed to ensuring they are aware of the benefits of this outstanding product, which enables them to purchase a home and build long-term financial security.
And as such, serving the military community is a key pillar of loanDepot’s Vision 2025 strategic plan, which focuses on supporting first-time and diverse homebuyers. To deepen our commitment to this community, we appointed former Army Sergeant David Smith as Vice President of National VA Lending earlier this year. He leads loanDepot’s VA Council, a dedicated group of leaders who are veterans and veteran spouses themselves.
Members of the Council serve as subject matter experts who are responsible for educating loanDepot’s originators, industry professionals, and consumers around the country. They answer questions and offer advice on the benefits, nuances, and miscon-
Irvine, CA
States Licensed: All 50 states
Total VA Loans Closed in 2023 by lender: 8,352
ceptions surrounding VA mortgage products to increase awareness, understanding, and utilization. They also provide individual support to loanDepot’s originators and underwriters, who may be working through VA loans with unique circumstances.
Over the last several years, Smith has trained more than 28,000 real estate agents and consumers on the nuances and benefits of the VA’s powerful home loan program.
Why is this lender the best at supporting the military/military borrowers?
loanDepot leads with education. VA loans are underutilized because misconceptions persist among real estate and mortgage professionals, and they are either misunderstood or unknown to those who have earned them.
We want our originators, realtor partners, and our nation’s heroes to be educated and understand the true power of the VA loan. That’s why we are training each segment every single day. In addition to offering our originators a VA Masterclass, which provides them with the knowledge and skills to address the unique challenges of serving our customers, the compa-
ny offers free public online training. These include two other unique masterclasses for real estate professionals and consumers, aimed at increasing awareness, explaining the benefits, and dispelling misconceptions.
loanDepot’s VA Council is also on call every day, answering questions from underwriters and originators who encounter complicated VA loan scenarios. This often means finding a path to homeownership for military customers whose applications may have been too complicated and misunderstood by other lenders.
On the product front, the company offers an expansive VA product portfolio, including programs with a 520 minimum FICO score, and was the first lender to offer a VA renovation loan, which veterans can use to renovate or adapt their homes to make them accessible.
loanDepot also has a proprietary tool for its originators that identifies in-market real estate professionals with strong veteran client connections so they can establish relationships and lend their expertise to support the homeownership journey of even more deserving service members across the country. ★
Why does this lender serve those who serve to protect?
At Movement Mortgage, we deeply recognize and honor the sacrifices made by military personnel and veterans. Serving those who protect our country is not just a commitment, but a mission rooted in our core values. We have over 100 employees who are veterans, countless military spouses, children, and parents of veterans. Additionally, we have a VA Advisory Board that includes veterans, veteran spouses, and dedicated advocates who closely serve the military community.
Our specialized VA loans offer favorable terms, including 100% financing without requiring mortgage insurance, leading to significant savings for borrowers. Our VA-focused loan officers are passionate in navigating the unique challenges that military families face, ensuring a seamless homebuying experience.
We are continuously improving to better serve this community. Recently, we hosted our first-ever VA Summit with over 100 attendees, where we gave away a service dog to an incredibly inspiring and deserving veteran. The summit also provided valuable education to our loan officers on how to better serve the
Indian Land, SC
States Licensed: All 50 states
Total VA Loans Closed in 2023 by lender: 6,286
community and included firsthand insights from veterans themselves.
Additionally, we actively partner with organizations like the USO and The Warriors Journey to provide comprehensive support beyond just loans. At Movement Mortgage, serving those who serve is about more than business; it’s about expressing our gratitude and ensuring that military families receive the support and opportunities they deserve.
By focusing on the unique needs of military personnel and veterans, offering specialized products, and providing dedicated support, we demonstrate our strong commitment to those who serve to protect our country.
Why is this lender the best at supporting the military/military borrowers?
Movement Mortgage stands out as the premier choice for supporting military borrowers for several compelling reasons:
Expertise: Processing over 10,000 VA loans annually, we bring extensive experience and a deep understanding of the unique needs of military borrowers.
Efficiency: Our VA loan-specific processing is fast and efficient, helping veterans and military members cut
through red tape and move into their homes more quickly.
Comprehensive Support: From the initial application to closing, we provide detailed resources, guides, and checklists to simplify the homebuying process for military personnel.
Specialized Refinancing Options:
Our VA IRRRL and VA Cash-Out refinancing programs are tailored specifically to the needs of military borrowers, offering flexible and beneficial refinancing solutions.
Community Involvement: We actively partner with esteemed organizations like the USO and The Warriors Journey, enhancing our support network for service members and their families.
Flexible Eligibility: Competitive minimum FICO score requirements and high maximum loan amounts, we accommodate a wide range of military borrowers, ensuring more service members can benefit from our VA loans.
At Movement Mortgage, our dedication goes beyond providing loans. We strive to create a supportive, efficient, and beneficial experience for military families, underscoring our commitment to those who serve our country with honor and bravery. ★
Why does this lender serve those who serve to protect?
As a top 2 mortgage lender in the U.S., Pennymac understands the unique sacrifices made by active duty servicemembers, veterans, and their families. Our commitment to this community goes beyond providing home loans; it’s about recognizing their service and ensuring they have the tools and support to achieve the dream of homeownership. We specialize in VA Loans, offering competitive rates and flexible terms designed to meet the needs of military borrowers.
Pennymac actively partners with organizations that support veterans and their families, contributing to their overall well-being. We believe that everyone who has served deserves a place to call home, and we’re honored to play a role in making that happen.
Why is this lender the best at supporting the military/military borrowers?
Westlake Village, CA
States Licensed:All 50 states
Total VA Loans Closed in 2023 by lender: 58,515 units
Pennymac’s dedication to the military community goes beyond offering VA loans. We have a dedicated Veterans Recruiter in our Talent Acquisition department and a robust SERVE BRG (Business Resource Group) leadership team that actively plans events and initiatives to engage and support military-connected employees and the broader military community. Throughout the year, we host events to honor and celebrate those who have served. These include:
• Patriot Day events that pay tribute to the sacrifices made on 9/11 and highlight organizations like Honor Flight that support veterans.
• Veterans Day virtual celebrations featuring a color guard, pledge of allegiance, and heartfelt messages of thanks. We also partner with organizations like Operation Gratitude to increase awareness of their important work.
• Women’s History Month events specifically highlighting the unique contributions and challenges faced
by women veterans.
• Memorial Day observances that honor the memory and sacrifices of fallen service members through shared stories and tributes.
Our commitment extends beyond our internal community. We proudly partner with Honor Flight, sponsoring employee guardians to accompany veterans on these life-changing trips. We actively participate in their welcome home celebrations, and our employees write heartfelt letters to veterans expressing gratitude and respect. Additionally, we partner with Habitat for Humanity, contributing to their mission of building homes for veterans and their families.
Through these combined efforts, Pennymac demonstrates an unwavering commitment to supporting military borrowers and the broader military community, not just through financial products, but through meaningful engagement, recognition, and active contributions to their well-being. ★
Help us celebrate originators who go above and beyond to serve military members, spouses, and veterans. For some originators, it’s about continued service as military veterans. For others, it is a means for paying tribute to family members who have served — some making the ultimate sacrifice. While not all originators understand how to work with our veterans and service members, for many, finding homes for them is the most meaningful part of their job.
Originators who work with our active duty and veteran military members understand that finding homes for our heroes is no small task. We highlight two originators who have gone above and beyond for our heroes and their families. Those who serve the men, women, and families who put so much on the line to protect our freedoms and who have sacrificed their lives for our home and our country. ★
State/Branch Mgr — VA Home Loan Benefit Spc
VALOR HOME LOANS
Woodbury, MN
Why does this originator serve those who serve to protect?
Steve learned that a small percentage of loans are done for Veterans and realized that LOs (and him) were putting Veterans into loans that were easier for THEM to do and that they were familiar with. This was done instead of learning the ins and outs of this great loan program to better serve those who served us.
Why is this originator the best at supporting the military/military borrowers?
Over 50% of Steve’s business is VA. He knows the loan program inside out. Steve has taken his passion to the next level by teaching Realtors about the strengths of the VA loan for several years. As a co-founder of the VMA (Veteran Mortgage Advisor) program, he certifies Loan Originators around the country to know more about the VA loan than anyone else in their market. When you TEACH something … you become an expert at it.
What contributions is this originator making to the military community?
Steve is involved with a couple local VMC’s and on the BOD for a 501c3 charity organization (Volunteers for American Veterans) in the Twin Cities. The VAV helps raise funds to assist local Veterans and active duty soldiers who are in need. He’s raised tens of thousands of dollars for continuing to assist the community. ★
Loan Originator
FIRST COMMUNITY MORTGAGE
Cincinnati, OH
Why does this originator serve those who serve to protect?
Ashok feels that those who serve and protect our country deserve the utmost respect and service. He believes they are the most honorable individuals and is always interested in their stories and journeys. This deep admiration and respect for their sacrifices drive his passion for supporting military personnel in their homeownership journey.
Why is this originator the best at supporting the military/military borrowers?
Ashok ensures military borrowers receive exceptional service tailored to their needs. He has a genuine interest in their stories, deep understanding of the VA loan process, and dedication to providing the highest level of respect. Since 2013, he has conducted specialized realtor training sessions on VA loans, equipping agents with the knowledge to better serve military clients. Through these lunch and learns, he has trained hundreds of agents, demonstrating his unwavering commitment to military borrowers.
What contributions is this originator making to the military community?
Ashok has significantly enhanced the lives of military personnel through various initiatives with FCM Cares (FCM’s non-profit). This year, he sponsored the Honor Flight, which provides veterans with an all-expenses-paid trip to visit their memorials in Washington, D.C. He also collaborated with Middle Tennessee State University’s Charlie and Hazel Daniels Veterans and Military Family Center to educate veterans on VA mortgage benefits through an educational video series, showcasing his unwavering commitment to the military community. ★
Earlier this year, NMP reached out to mortgage employers across the country. We invited them to apply to participate in an exercise in which their employees voted on how well they were doing. Once a company was accepted into the program, they were given a unique code to distribute to their employee base. That code and a special link allowed employees to rate their companies on various aspects, without those employers having any ability to see what the voting was like.
We asked about benefits and corporate culture;
community involvement social interaction; commitment to diversity and racial justice; and, much more.
We received hundreds and hundreds of replies. From these votes, the results are tallied for each company in each category.
The result is this listing. Companies did not purchase their slots here. They voluntarily submitted to the judgment of their workforce. In the end, each of them takes a place on the podium of excellence. These are, without a doubt, the Most Loved Employers in the mortgage industry. ♥
Roseville, CA
What do employees love most about this company?
Employees at American Pacific Mortgage love the supportive and inclusive culture the most. We are a family, as evidenced by the naming of our corporate headquarters our “Home Office.” Employees appreciate feeling valued and heard, with ample opportunities for growth and development. The company’s commitment to work-life balance, along with benefits like the health and wellness program and free access to Burnalong, enhances their overall well-being.
Additionally, our emphasis on diversity, equity, and inclusion fosters a sense of belonging and unity among the team. Overall, employees appreciate the collaborative environment, where their contributions are recognized and rewarded, and where they can make a meaningful impact while enjoying a fulfilling career journey.
Here’s what employees value most about working at American Pacific Mortgage:
Great communication and honesty along with great service dedicated to making the individual branches look great.
The transparency and they are always looking for ways to help build and improve our business.
Everyone at APM cares about the end product. That helps everyone stay focused on working together to achieve the goal of home ownership for our borrowers.
Senior ownership could have easily sold off the company but instead went through arduous efforts to create one of the largest ESOP employee-owned companies in the industry. This passes the torch to the next generation of leaders and down to every employee who now have pride of ownership themselves.
American Pacific Mortgage is very personal with all employees, which makes me feel valued and not like just another employee, which I love. They are consistently trying to make the company better in all aspects. I feel they have their employees’ best interest at heart at all times. ♥
w/ Company Match Company Paid Life Insurance Paid Time Off Maternity Leave Paternity Leave Training Remote Workplace Profit Sharing Paid Gym Membership Company participates in paying for benefits
San Ramon, CA
What do employees love most about this company?
One of the best parts of CMG is the people. CMG has promoted a great culture across all departments by diligently recruiting new hires that are the best in the industry. This is a huge reason why the company has been so successful. It starts with our CEO, Chris George, who personally makes himself available to all LOs and makes sure to keep the company updated via emails and video messages on CMG Life. No matter what, everyone’s willing to assist in getting things done and they’re so happy to do it. Not to mention our onboarding, IT, and marketing teams are so helpful in getting employees established and building LO’s business. The communication between departments is excellent. The flexible work capability are extremely appealing as well. The innovative technology and exclusive mortgage products like HomeFundIt and the All In One Loan help LOs stand out in the market and succeed.
Here’s what employees value most about working at CMG Financial:
CMG is a large company with a small company feel. No one is out of reach. You can call the CEO and Founder,
Chris George, and the Executive team, as easily as you can call a loan officer, underwriter or processor.
The culture, team work, and progressiveness. The company continuously tries to grow and develop the best teams and technologies to be more efficient and make everyone’s lives easier/better
I love the dedication and genuine care for all employees. The training is excellent along with the supporting departments. The culture isn’t just a fancy slogan it’s actually put into action and it shows.
I love the positive culture and work environment here. Emphasis on open communication and mutual respect makes it easy to collaborate and feel valued. Management’s commitment to recognizing achievements and supporting professional growth contributes to a motivated team. This supportive atmosphere enhances job satisfaction and fosters a sense of belonging.
If you work hard you will succeed. Contributions are valued and recognized. There is no one that is off limits at this company. You can pick up the phone and call the CEO and he will actually take your call and listen to your ideas or concerns. ♥
Santa Ana, CA
What do employees love most about this company?
Kind’s story of our origin isn’t typical. We’re built on a foundation of loyalty and a shared vision — a testament to what happens when dedicated employees and inspiring leadership come together. Many started this journey at Stearns Lending, and when the opportunity arose to reunite under Glenn’s leadership, the response was overwhelming. This mass homecoming wasn’t just about jobs; it spoke volumes about the long-term belief we held in Glenn and the culture he fostered.
Fast forward five years, and Kind is a vibrant blend of those who built the foundation & the fresh perspectives of new recruits. This unique mix isn’t just happenstance; it’s a core part of what makes us special. The veterans provide a wealth of experience & unwavering dedication, while newcomers bring innovative ideas and boundless enthusiasm. It’s this constant interplay of seasoned wisdom and youthful energy that fuels our passion and keeps us evolving.
Here’s what employees value most about working at Kind Lending:
I love our culture which embodies
kindness, innovative and progressive thinking, and disrupting the industry with delight! Our leadership team does a great job of being transparent, and giving thanks to employees which elevates your willingness to complete tasks and maintain motivation.
The CEO (Glenn Stearns) and Chief Kindness Officer (Mindy Stearns) exemplify our culture of being fair and kind to everyone. You don’t have to agree with everything that is said, but you always treat each other with respect and kindness. This goes for all employees both internally and our business customers.
The C-Level Execs treat their employees with respect and this goes for everyone and not just the sales people that bring in the money.
I love how accepting and positive the company is. The management is so positive its like nothing I have ever experienced. There has not been a day working here where I am not praised for my work. Kind truly cares and that is impossible to find in the mortgage industry.
This company not only gives me the flexibility to manage life outside of work, but also provides the support and resources I need to perform my work well. ♥ BENEFITS
401k w/ Company Match Company Paid Life Insurance Maternity Leave Paternity Leave Training Remote Workplace
Executive Bonus
PTO or sick time used for paternity & maternity
Meriden, CT
What do employees love most about this company?
A true direct lender and servicer, Planet offers competitive pricing and top-notch marketing to help MLOs keep their customers for life. We’re large enough to provide great opportunities to move around and up through internal promotions and small enough for employees to be heard — and we’re built to succeed in any market cycle.
Who excels at this company? How does this company provide opportunities for growth?
Originators who join Planet can experience real growth — locally and regionally. Our dedicated Advocacy Team provides ongoing support for new hires, we equip our people with the right tools and technology, and our executive leadership has the experience to provide both long-term and immediate action plans. Plus, we have the right product mix to help MLOs succeed in any market, including today’s high-interest-rate, purchase-focused market.
Here’s what employees value most about working at Planet Home Lending:
What I love about this company is the focus they place on their leaders. Leaders then trickle down their love and passion for what they do to their employees, which in turn reciprocates great service to their customers.
Unconditional support by management. Yearly compensation increases for good job performance and productivity.
They are forward thinkers! Love that they’ve thought outside the box!
I love the respect I receive from my boss and my co-workers. This company trusts their team members to do their job and do it well. They don’t micromanage associates.
I really enjoy working for PHL, I have a clear understanding of what I need to accomplish, and this allows for a less stressful work environment. PHL is goal-oriented leadership, they encourage everyone to succeed. I absolutely feel valued by my employer. ♥
Dallas, TX
What do employees love most about this company?
At Supreme Lending, we treat our employees more as a family than as a corporation. We’ve built a community where people enjoy going to work because they know they are contributing to a good company with honest values and integrity. It’s much more fulfilling than a typical 9–5 job, because we know we are going to work for a place that recognizes our hard work and genuinely appreciates us.
Tell us about this company’s corporate culture. How does your Institution shape your employees through corporate culture?
The heart of Supreme Lending’s business is cultivated by our values and collective goal of making a positive impact in our communities. Our company vision is to enrich the lives of all we serve, and that begins first and foremost with our people. We understand that our number one customer is our employee, and we treat our employees as family.
Here’s what employees value most about working at Supreme Lending:
Supreme Lending has an amazing
culture — from our corporate office to our branches across the country. Everyone is so welcoming, friendly, and always willing to help each other out! The leadership team values ALL employees and feedback. We also encourage having fun at work too!
I appreciate the autonomy I have to do what is needed to meet my clients needs. I don’t feel I have undue pressure to perform, yet my management team always finds ways to help me do my job better and they give me the tools I need to do it.
The transparency and overall communication between different departments are miles ahead of other mortgage companies I’ve worked at in the past — creating a great company culture.
I’ve been with Supreme Lending for nearly 18 years, the longest I’ve ever worked for any company. I adore my job here because it aligns with my interests and continually inspires me to learn.
I can pick up the phone and get on the line with someone to help me with any questions or issues I’m having and they can and will take care of it. We have a tremendous support system. ♥
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Nick Roberson is a long-time mortgage industry veteran and a board member of the California Association of Mortgage Professionals. He’s a forthcoming and giving guy, who shares his … unique … perspective on work and life on his Facebook account. Here are some of Nick’s FB thoughts this month:
That moment when you catch a glimpse of yourself in a mirror and realize if someone told you to haul ass, it would probably take you three trips.
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Eight billion people on earth and somehow, I’m the best driver — that’s pretty crazy.
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To the lady who sat next to me on the plane yesterday: “It’s the thought that counts” doesn’t include showering. You have to actually do that.
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For $250.00 an hour I will pose as a couples therapist and tell your spouse they are wrong about everything.
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Note, if you are being chased by a pack of taxidermists, do not play dead!
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Here is a joke for all the mind readers out there …
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Nothing is impossible with the right attitude, and duct tape.
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That awkward moment when you are not sure if you actually have free time or are just forgetting something.
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The most beautiful thing in the world cannot be seen or even touched. At least that’s what the restraining order says.
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Any pencil can be a number two pencil, if you eat it.
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Brain at 3a.m.: Let me offer you a selection of the catchiest song lyrics from the past 30 years. Me: No. We need to sleep. Brain: YOU SPIN ME RIGHT ROUND, BABY!
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Hotels need to realize there needs to be a toned-down bathroom light somewhere between pitch black and aircraft landing lights. I’m going to start keeping a pair of bathroom shades next to my bed for those unavoidable 2a.m. wake up calls.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what could you possibly have against the horse I rode in on? n
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