Tribune January 2015-Issue 1
We Need the GSA: Opening a Discussion
2-A-Days Mandatory Fun
Cover Story
Cover Story
Cultural Convergence
Sensitive Subjects
Dougatorial
Music
Spotlight
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Mandatory Fun
January 2014
By: Margaret Kosten
Remember in kindergarten and
friends, and you can choose your own
a logical solution? Many of you probably
the school’s interests, these additional
elementary school when the gym teacher
level of commitment, but when it comes
don’t even know what the alternatives
academic classes that a student could
announced that the game would be cap-
right down to it, it requires a lot of time
classes are. They are not plentiful, and
manage without sports or a PE class
ture the flag when you would much rather
and at least a little motivation. For many
certainly not interesting or helpful for
taking valuable scheduling slots would
have played freeze tag? It turns out times
students, this isn’t a problem because
those who have opted out of sports.
reflect well on the school. Park Tudor’s
haven’t changed much. When it comes to
they have at least one sport that they
Regardless of the flawed logic
claim to “Academic Excellence” could be
athletics, Park Tudor doesn’t truly trust
really love or that’s bearable enough that
behind the provided alternatives, as a
proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. This
its students to care for their own physical
it’s slightly pleasant. What about those
preparatory school Park Tudor should
is not to say that the school should push
well-being or decide what areas of inter-
of us who are athletically challenged, or
not be making the decisions about ex-
students away from sports and back into
est they would like to pursue as an indi-
have specifically chosen, for one reason
tra-curricular activities such as sports
the classroom. The school should see the
vidual. Park Tudor foists athletics onto
or another that sports are not for us?
for its students who are supposed to
benefit of having students, who wouldn’t
its students; even those who manage to
There are many reasons a student
be gaining independence and deci-
otherwise play a sport, increasing the dif-
resist the tantalizing locker buddy snacks
may not participate in a sport. They may
sion-making skills in order to be ready
ficulty of their course load, and be more
and team t-shirts usually end up running
be too busy academically to manage it,
for college. Could it be that given Park
flexible in order to accommodate this.
half-heartedly down a field or court
have other conflicting extra-curricular
Tudor’s small student body, the admin-
Park Tudor cannot change or dis-
eventually, just so they can graduate.
activities, or not be talented whatsoever
istration is using these credits and lack
regard the state requirements, but they
In addition to the required Fresh-
at athletics. These are all valid, especially
of an appropriate alternative to funnel
can provide better alternatives and be
man Gym and Health classes, students
when there are other ways to enjoy the
students onto teams? If teams are large
more flexible with individual situations.
need to accrue one more gym credit in or-
companionship and health benefits that
enough to compete, the admissions office
They should allow students to go to gyms
der to graduate, according to state guide-
come with a sport team. If this student
has yet another sport to use as a boasting
close to their houses at convenient times
leines. This is equivalent to two more
is too busy either with academics or
point. Also in the school’s “interest” is
for them, and log hours for credit. If
semester-long classes that meet twice a
extra-curricular activities to manage a
the profit gained from students who have
students really want to cheat the system,
rotation. There is another option: you can
sport, then why would taking time out of
to take gym over the summer to accom-
then their disregard for their health is
play a sport. You get to spend time with
their academic schedule for a PE class be
modate more classes. Still considering
their problem, as it will be in a matter of years. After all, these students will have already taken Health and Freshman Gym, so they have the education they need to make an informed decision about their health. Many schools allow online gym. We have the Global Online Academy, so what’s the big difference? The school could also offer more alternative classes that may be less strenuous and football player dominated than conditioning, and less artistic than dance. The school could offer intermural sports that meet for limited times or could once again offer the walking club. Park Tudor allows its students to personalize their education in many ways, and it’s time for athletics to catch up.
Statistic courtesy of Park Tudor School
January 2014
Two-A-Day Practices
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By: Logan Lowry
Are two-a-day practices even worth
hausted during 2-a-days. What you do
very time consuming.
You can’t stay
ing 2-a-days during school. “There’s only
having anymore? That’s a question that
during your rest time is key. “I couldn’t
out late or do anything at night because
so much time that we’re able to do work
a lot of people are starting to ask lately.
go home because of the short amount of
you have practice in the morning.
I
that’s not conflicting our schedules during
Many schools in the Indianapolis area
time we had between practices. Some-
think it is smart to keep having 2-a-days
the school year. Having to wake up at
started school before 2-a-days usually
times I would just try to relax in the
though. I do cross country now and I
4:30, going to work out, and having a test
start. People are beginning to wonder
locker room. It was really tough on me.”
don’t feel as close to my teammates as I
on the same day is just very exhausting.”
if it is good or bad to even have them.
2-a-days goes on for about two
should be. I think 2-a-days truly helps
People who have 2-a-days during
weeks and most players are exhaust-
you build bonds with your teammates.”
the summer tend to think that having
Most people might think that
them are necessary. It helps prepare the
Park
Tudor
Head
football
coach, Orlando Lowry, is not against
ed from it.
2-a-days at all. “I think it’s very ben-
this as a good thing. “I think it’s very
2-a-days only happens in the sum-
players for their games and it also the
eficial. I like the structure of it. I think
helpful as you get closer to the sea-
mer.
teammates to build bonds with each oth-
However, Beeson views
Well, that’s not true.
It also
there’s more of an emphasis on safety now.
There’s more concern about
heat stroke.
We try to limit those
situations as much as possible.” Lowry also is fine with the summer limit of 12 practice days with pro pads (five of those days could be with another team for a 7-on-7 scrimmage), which took effect this summer. Previously, the practices were not limited. “I think we’re fresher and healthier,” Lowry said. “One thing that I do is make sure we take a lot of water breaks. Back in my day, water was viewed as not being manly. Coaches would yell at you all the time. I tell my guys if they need water, then go and get it. I let them take their helmets of as well. I’m very conscious of keeping my players safe.” Football isn’t the only sport that has 2-a-days in the summer. Volleyball does
Above, Brandon Tiassum reaches for a tackle in Park Tudor’s game against Secena. Football utilizes these two-a-day practices. Photo courtesy of parktudor.org
as well. I had the opportunity to have
son.
happens in the winter and in the
er. However, having 2-a-days during the
a sit down interview with former Park
your sport.
Especially, if you haven’t
spring. Spencer Marsh, a former bas-
actual school year is not such a great idea.
Tudor volleyball player, Ashley Beeson.
really done much the entire summer.”
ketball player and current baseball
It tends to overwhelm players and causes
Volleyball players might have an
It’s very important to have team
player, thinks that having 2-a-days
over exhaustion. So let’s go back to the
even tougher schedule than football
chemistry. It determines how well your
during school is a very negative thing.
first question that I asked. Are 2-a-days
players. “Our morning practices would
team bonds. “It’s good just to be around
First practices start at 6:00 and the
really worth having anymore? It really
start at 8 and end at about 9:30. Some-
your team a lot and get comfortable
second practice is after school. It’s defi-
does seem that they are fine during the
times we would actually only get a 2
with them. It helps you become even
nitely a hard thing to balance those prac-
summer for the most part, but they don’t
hour break between practices.” Most
more comfortable with your sport.”
tices with school. “You’re running on late
go too well during the actual school year.
football teams usually get at least
Beeson does believe there are neg-
sleep and it’s really tough to wake up and
double that amount of time for break.
ative effects from 2-a-days, but she still
do the same thing over and over again.”
It’s very important to not get ex-
thinks they are worth it. “It’s definitely
Spencer does not approve of hav-
You get a lot of repetition for
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January 2014
We Need the GSA by Emily Stark
January 2014
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GSA members gather for a meeting in which they discuss questions about sexuality and silence. Photo coutrtesy of Dr. Dubie
those who identify as heterosexual. It is
to try to change it. However, we will not
space at every school, including Park
spring, it was suggested that the Park
our goal to create an environment where
accept an environment that condones
Tudor. While there may not be any
Tudor Gay-Straight Alliance (PTGSA)
students can come together and feel
homophobia, bullying, or intolerance of
physical bullying at our school, gay
needed to do more than just put on a
safe, accepted, and included.
any sort that forces people to live in dis-
slurs and phrases like “that’s so gay” are
comfort, feel abnormal, or be ashamed
quite common within the student body.
In an opinion piece published last
great bake sale. Indeed, the author im-
By promoting discussion about
plied that the PTGSA needs to do more
the LGBTQ community, we can help
of who they are. Because sexual
These slurs do not promote an accepting
work that will actually make a difference
normalize a topic that has for so long
orientation is not readily observable, we
environment in any way. Every student
in the lives of those we claim to support.
been a taboo. Much of the resistance
do not know who is gay or has questions
deserves an environment where they feel
In actuality, hosting colorful bake sales
that the PTGSA encounters comes
and needs our support - and that’s okay.
comfortable to talk and be themselves,
and sitting around talking about feelings
from those who do not understand the
We don’t need to know which people
whether they are straight, out, or still in
are definitely not the only work the
purpose of having a GSA at Park Tudor
need our help in order to help them.
the closet. While you may not know of
PTGSA does; we work to encourage ac-
and from those who do not want our
The presence of our GSA will ensure
anyone at Park Tudor that is gay, that
ceptance, promote tolerance, and foster
“...we work to encourage acceptance, promote toler-
discussion among all people within the diverse Park Tudor community regardless of sexual or gender orientation. We
ance, and foster discussion among all people in within the diverse Park Tudor community.”
does not mean that you are not offending someone when you say those things. We hope that we can replace this hurtful aspect in our school environment with the “Respect” part of our school motto.
are doing so through education, support, social action, and advocacy. We believe
point of view forced upon them. Our
that Park Tudor has an environment
No matter what your beliefs are, Park
that schools can truly be safe only when
GSA is not forcing any sort of agenda
that is accepting of gay students as well
Tudor is a community and we are all hu-
every student is assured access to an
on the Park Tudor community – we are
as create a safe space where someone
man – humans who deserve to be loved
education without fear of harassment
not aiming to change anyone’s opinion
who is wrestling with his or her sexual
and accepted despite our differences.
or violence for any reason. The PTGSA
on gay marriage or gay equality. We
orientation can raise the questions and
welcomes individuals who identify
realize that there are people who are
concerns they may have in that regard
themselves as lesbian, gay, bisexual,
morally opposed to gay equality, and if
-- and perhaps feel comfortable enough
transgender or questioning, as well as
that is their firm belief we are not going
to come out. There is a need for a safe
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January 2015
Someone important to your school
principle talk about whatever happened
passes away from a fatal illness, do you,
for fifteen minutes during an assembly
as a community, talk about it? Should
isn’t very helpful or comforting at all.
this terribly sensitive subject be brought
If you let kids, and teachers and staff
to light and discussed rather than be
sit down in maybe their advisories,
pushed under the table in an attempt
and have a smaller group discussion
to keep the mood up? Some believe
and let kids voice their opinions about
that such traumatic news needs to be
what happened, I think that’s way more
acknowledged and others would say it
helpful.” In other words, if you allow
would be far more appropriate to try to
homerooms to meet for a period and
grieve and work through it on your own.
have a small, toned down, open group
It is dubious as to whether group discus-
discussion on the subject at hand, it
sions about societal issues will even help
will prove to be far more valuable to
because discussing some sensitive topics
the students, teachers and families.
could make people feel even worse.
However, director of the Park
Several students believe that part
Tudor Upper School, Deborah Everett,
of the process in determining the ap-
seemed to have a slightly different opin-
propriateness in discussing the topic is
ion on how these discussions should be
what the actual topic is. Junior Savannah
constructed. She believes, “You need a
Nuckols believes, “It’s too hard and too
healthy combination of a larger scaled
complicated to just make one set rule
assembly, a smaller group discussion,
that we either will talk about everything
as well as offering counseling. I think
or not talk about everything. It depends
the assembly helps clarify the context of
on what we’re talking about, you know? I mean, if someone here at this school died I think that definitely needs to be talked about. But I think that it’s way too hard to talk about every little traumatic thing that happens in the world or even country or state. We need to focus on our community and that’s, you know, where those sensitive subjects need to be acknowledged and talked about and counseling should be offered if needed, you know.” In other words, there would be far too much to talk about and too many traumatic thoughts flowing through our minds constantly if we decided to discuss every unfortunate incident that occurred in the world, country, etc. However, junior Lauren Challand had slightly different opinions on what should and shouldn’t be talked about. Lauren believes “I don’t think we need to just narrow it down to stuff that happens locally. There’s other stuff that affects us too, it doesn’t matter if it doesn’t happen in Indianapolis, outsider stuff can have an impact on us too.” She continued
Photo courtesy of Amanda Li
By: Lindsay Harrison
to explain that simply discussing only
Brown. In the Jennings School District
the local incidents would be ignorant
nearby Ferguson, the Superintendent
and that ignoring massively traumatic
advised the schools to discuss the topic,
situations solely because they may not
bring it to light and allow the students and
directly impact us is a huge mistake.
faculty to openly discuss the incident in
In an article in The New York
their classrooms. In contrast, the teach-
Times entitled “Schools in Ferguson Area
ers at a school neighboring Ferguson in
Prepare for an Emotional Opening Day,”
Illinois prompted teachers to change
Motoko Rich and Mosi Secret report on
the subject. The heads of the school be-
the widely talked about tragedy that oc-
lieved that talking about it would only
curred in Ferguson, MO. On Saturday,
cause the teachers, students, and fami-
August 9th an unarmed eighteen year old
lies to lash out which does not create a
Michael Brown was walking down the
healthy environment for a school setting.
street with a friend and was shot to death
We then get to the question: How
by a police officer. Taking a different look
should the sensitive subjects be talked
at the catastrophe, the reporters analyze
about? Would it be more beneficial to
the Ferguson schools’ actions regarding
talk about them in a group setting, or
returning to school after the incident.
rather in smaller groups that are open
Many schools in or around the Ferguson
for discussion? Park Tudor mother Deb
area delayed their school openings in an
Lebovits expressed that “I think that it’s
attempt to give the students, faculty, and
way more beneficial and helpful to talk
families a chance to recover and grieve
about such serious, sensitive topics in
over the shooting and killing of Michael
smaller groups. I think just having the
the situation, then you have those small group, you know, open discussions with your homerooms that let people voice their opinions and feelings, and then you always have those counselors there to help anyone who needs to talk with someone professional, one-on-one. I think that when you combine those three things you cover the basics of acknowledging and handling a sensitive situation very well.” In other words, you cannot simply just conduct an assembly or simply have a smaller group discussion; you need both of them in order to fully and successfully address the situation. The discussion and acknowledgment of traumatic instances at school can be a tricky task to handle. Everyone has their own view and personal preference on how to grieve and recover. Meaning, unfortunately, that you may not be able to cater to everyone’s predilections. The only thing a school can do to try to provide for everyone is attempt a variety of tactics in discussion and counseling.
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By: Alayna Weiss
conference?
“Everyone is pumped up and hap-
py all the time,” said senior Dominique
A: Dominique: Getting to know all dif-
Harrington. What is she talking about?
ferent kinds of people. I still talk to my
Only the Student Diversity and Lead-
friends from SDLC everyday. It is one
ership Conference (SDLC.) Last year,
big community that is one hundred per-
five Park Tudor students flew to D.C. to
cent accepting.
participate in the three day conference. I
Priya: My favorite part was being
interviewed Dominique Harrington and
with my South Asian affinity group. I
Priya Mirmira to find out more about
was worried at first that I wouldn’t fit in
what exactly went on.
because I a third generation South Asian (my grandparents immigrated to Amer-
Q: What was the first thing that you did when you got to the conference? A: Dominique: There were opening ceremonies for the entire conference,
Above, from left to right, Priya Miramira, Annie Dora, Zeba Kokan, Dominique Harrington, and Logan Abernathy at a meal while attending the Student Leadership and Diversity Conference in Washington D.C. Photo courtesy of Zeba Kokan
ica.) I felt like I would be more removed from the culture than the other kidsthat I wouldn’t be Indian enough. But when I got there, everyone was totally
The People of Color Conference(PoCC),
accepting and celebrated our culture.
which is for adults, and the Student Diversity and Leadership Conference,
Q: Why should people go the SDLC?
which is for students. Then the PPoC left
A: Dominique: Because it’s a life chang-
and there were opening ceremonies for
ing experience. You are never around so
just the SDLC. Speakers came up and
many people who have the same agenda
talked. There was a lot of spirit, people
as you and who completely accept you.
were really excited.
You gain a broader view on life and there is a lot of self reflection that lets you
Q: How many people were at the con-
come into your own. Diversity isn’t just
ference?
about race it’s about everything from
A: Dominique: There were 1600 stu-
age to ability to sexuality to religion. It is
dents from all over the U.S. and the U.K.
complex. Everyone should apply. Priya: The really cool thing about
and Caribbean.
SDLC is that you sometimes you are Q:Did you know anyone else going be-
so caught up in your own life that you
sides the students from Park Tudor?
don’t have a bigger awareness of what is
A: Dominique. No, but once you got
happening around you. SDLC introduc-
there you were assigned into family
es you to all walks of life and gives you
groups, groups of 50 or 60 kids, and that was who you did the programs with. Priya: You were also put into affinity groups. Affinity groups based on different backgrounds. I was part of the South Asian affinity group, but you didn’t have to be South Asian to be in it. You can choose what ever group you feel connected to, its not just based on
Above, Logan Abernathy and Dominique Harrington pose in Washington D.C. at the conference. Photo courtesy of Zeba Kokan
appearance.
tening to a lecture. The programs were really interactive and discussion based.
Q: What were the programs like?
We learned and talked about everything
A: Dominique: You were with your
having to do with diversity- from the
family groups and everyone would sit
language of diversity to sexuality to race.
in a circle. The workshops were taught by college students, but it wasn’t just lis-
Q: What was your favorite part of the
that bigger awareness. At SDLC you talk about things that might be uncomfortable but it is good to good to talk about the uncomfortable.
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January 2014
Cut It Out By Douglass Boshkoff Ever since I arrived at school my
Many people might dismiss the problem
stomach has been grumbling, and the pain
of line-cutting as childish because we’re in
is only exacerbated by my decision to skip
high school. However, cutting, although
breakfast in order to get to school on time.
immature, is definitely a problem in our
Fourth period has crawled by slowly, but fi-
lunchroom – and it doesn’t help that it gets
nally the bell for lunch rings - my salvation. I
worse as more people arrive. But it’s not like
get up to leave but my teacher is still talking.
bad students cut and good students don’t,
She holds us just thirty seconds past the bell,
because practically everyone has cut at some
but I know it’s over. I walk dejectedly to the
point. Think about it: how many times have
Commons and take my place at the back of
you walked into the commons, scanned the
the lunch line. It will be at least ten minutes
lines, and oh-so-secretly sidled into place
until I get to see my food.
next to your friends? The problem is that
“...How many times have you walked into the commons, scanned the lines, and oh-so-secretly sidled into place next to your friends?”
sometimes we fail to consider the effect our actions have on other students. We don’t consider the people waiting behind us – we only see the long line of people in front of us, and we only think about how hungry we are. We lack the respect for our peers to simply wait for an extra two minutes. If everyone
The amount of time it takes to get
waited in their place in line, perhaps the
lunch every day has little to do with the
line would seem to go faster, the Commons
actual efficiency of the Commons. Instead,
would be less hectic, and people wouldn’t
it is the number of students who cut in front
get upset.
of the each other that causes the delay for
Although we spend a lot of time
The Commons are so crowded during lunch we can’t even get a good photo. Photo Courtesy of Amanda Li
those patiently waiting at the end. Almost
complaining about line cutting, it isn’t the
every day I stand in my spot in line without
only problem in the lunchroom. Every day
We leave napkins on the floor and cups on
the Commons maneuverable, clean, and
moving an inch for five minutes, while I
there are plates left by students of all ages as
the tables. We don’t consider the extra work
more enjoyable to be in. It’s simple - don’t
watch my classmates cut in front of me.
well as food detritus remaining on the tables.
that each person makes for our staff. It seems
cut. Don’t leave your dishes on the table. If
that we not only lack respect for our peers,
you see a mess, clean it up - it doesn’t matter
but that we also lack respect for the staff of
who made it. And most importantly, before
the Commons and the building itself. The
“The problem is that sometimes we fail to consider the effect our actions have on other students.”
staff work really hard every day to make food for hundreds of students and then they have to clean up after them. We can help them out and show our appreciation for them by cleaning up after ourselves and saying
you cut in line or leave your plate behind,
‘please’ and ‘thank you.’ It is this lack of
consider how these actions will affect your
respect that is so concerning, for increasingly
peers and the lunchroom staff.
it seems that Park Tudor students are interested only in themselves and their friends. The beautiful commons of Park Tudor. Photo Courtesy of Park Tudor School
If we all work together, we can fix these problems. It would be easy to make
January 2014
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MUSICAL NOTES By Jackson Ward
Muse - Polyphia
We Like it Here - Snarky Puppy
Released Sept. 2nd, 2014
Released Feb. 25, 2014
Standout Song: Champaign (ft. Nick Johnston)
Standout Song: What about Me?
Jackson’s Rating: 7.5/10
Jackson’s Rating: 8.0/10
Polyphia’s “Muse” contains 11 tracks, 6 of which feature solos from guitarists Aaron
“We Like It Here” is the most recent of Snarky Puppy’s albums, all of which are recorded
Marshall, Mario Camarena, Nick Johnston, and Jason Richardson, just to name a few.
in a live. This album is entirely instrumental, unlike their previous efforts. The album
The album packs serious punch with its clean, tight mix and elaborate orchestration
is great for easy listening scenarios, especially during the calmer sections. The more
of winding guitar licks. The mix is crystal clear, allowing the melodic guitar leads to
energetic sections will keep the listener highly entertained and engaged. Snarky Puppy
take the spotlight. The vibe of the album gives an upbeat, fast, and uplifting feel. The
has created beautiful, attention grabbing songs, showcasing their superb song-writing.
album takes influence from funk, fusion, metal, and jazz. Polyphia do an excellent
Multiple emotions are evoked throughout the 8 songs, which total 54 minutes. The
job at meshing these styles to create a unique signature sound that goes unmatched.
soundscape is incredibly wide and open, allowing the listener visualize the placement
Although the album is most likely Polyphia’s best song-writing to date, the listener
of all 14 musicians. The level of musicianship on this album is off the charts, assur-
may feel that the album is too long and compositionally repetitive. It would’ve been
ing that there’s never a dull moment. The solos are all fantastic and the production
a great 10 track album had “Mood Swing” not appeared. This is the weakest song on
and use of effects adds to the already exciting blend of instruments. The brass sec-
the album. Aside from its very few weak points, Polyphia did an excellent job at blend-
tion is very smooth and articulate, and the rhythm section is about as tight and full of
ing groove and melody while maintaining instrumental, metal roots on this album.
groove as it gets. This is one of the best jazz fusion albums of the year, and to make it even better, every song on the album was video recorded can be viewed on YouTube.
January 2014
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An Alternative Perspective: An Interview with Sophia Burgenet
By Angi Li
Tell me about your family.
most people don’t know about you? Tell us an interesting fact!
I have 3 sisters. I have (am?) a twin sister. My other sisters are 22 and 24. Both of my parents are musicians. My mother plays the flute and both my mother and father are singers. They teach private lessons and play at concerts. My 22-year old sister is into accounting and management. My oldest sister studies piano. My twin sister is also in the United States in New York.
I have a twin sister. What’s your favorite food? I like a lot of foods. Italian food, like pasta, along with Chinese food and Mexican food are my favorites. What do you like most about Park Tudor?
What’s your favorite part about Switzerland? I like how we don’t have a lot of problems; it’s a very safe country. We have 4 languages. The mountains are nice. What made you want to come to America? I wanted to learn English and be away from my family and friends for a year and meet new people. I wanted to learn to be alone and more independent.
Pictured above from left to right: Elise Edgar, Julia Hoffman, Joe Lybik, Luke Elliott, Sophia Burgenet, Elizabeth Untama, Emma Baker, Beatrice Phillips, and Harry Camferdam. Photo Courtesy of Ms. Cleveland.
What do you think is the biggest difference between America and Switzerland?
bies?
America is bigger: houses, distances. The people are more open. Here, I have more time to do sports, but in Switzerland I had a lot of school work. School until 5:00 almost.
I play the piano and the flute. I also am on the track team. I like to hang out with my friends in the weekends: swimming in the lake, seeing movies, etc. I like to go to concerts; I like to listen to pop. My sister’s boyfriend is in a famous band from Switzerland.
What are your hob-
What’s something
It’s not a very big school, so all the people here help each other and are very open (as a community). If you could change something from America back to Switzerland, what would it be? Maybe some foods we don’t get in Switzerland. Also, here there are a lot of shops (Abercrombie and Fitch, Vera Bradley, etc.) that they don’t have in Switzerland.