Facade Design Working Diagrams

Facade Designer

Research

3D Model

Yes Complex?

Architect 3D modeling

No

Structural Design

DWGs

Structural Calculations

Facade Design Working Diagrams

Outcomes

Material Take -off

Process Pre-design Information Gathering

Authoring software/production method Original building design documents GIS application

Digital design models

SketchUp

Conceptual Design

3D Max Rhino

Architect’s Firm Process

Schematic Design

Maya Revit

Design Development

etc.

Digital Fabrication Model

Model

3D printing Laser cutters

Prototypes Physical Objects

Assembly

Process

Authoring software/production method 3D Model with a single polygon

Documents

Building design documents + Wind Load

DWG + PDFs

Digital design models

Remodel the entire building Conceptual Design

Facade Design’s Firm Process

SketchUp,3D Max,Rhino AutoCad 3D, Revit,Cartia

* Design Development

Bidding

Tender Drawings

SketchUp, 3D Max, Rhino AutoCad 3D, Revit, Cartia

Material Take-off Cost estimation Detail Drawings

Excel MathCad Window Design Strand 7 Staad Pro ProCad Rstab Robot Algor Spacegass

- AutoCad or Revit

Prototypes Shop Drawing & Fabrication Drawings

Assembly

- AutoCad

Services Overview TYPE 1 : Facade Contractor ( Working in general system )

1

2

Tender Documents

3

Tender Award

Schedule Submission

Material Take-Off B.O.Q

4

Design Development

Shop Drawings Fabrication Drawings

Structural Calculations Detail Drawings

More Details

Revise B.O.Q Material Schedules

- บริษัท กิ้มหยูเส็งคากระจก จำกัด ( KIM YOO SENG Co.Ltd ) - บริษัท Teasco ( Thailand ) Co.,Ltd - บริษัท Y.H.S. INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD

TYPE 2 : Facade Consultant ( Working in parallel to the design with architect and owner )

1

Conceptual Design

2

Design Development

3

Tender Documents

4

Tender Award

5

Shop Drawings Fabrication Drawings

Material Take-Off Remodel 3D Facade

3D Model Development

B.O.Q

Product Sample + Prices

Structural Calculations

Tender Documents + Drawings

Detailed Drawings

Contract

Specialist Considerations

- Lighting Design - Environmental Design - M&E ( Roof , Pipes etc. ) - Acoustic Design - Thermal , The Wind Tunnel Test and Design Wind Load Study

Schedule Submission

- บริษัท Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. - บริษัท Arup Facade Engineering - บริษัท Global Façade System Co., Ltd

Time Durations

ระยะเวลาการทำงานโดยทั่วไป โครงการขนาดใหญ Big Project ( >=10,000 Sq.m ) - Conceptual Design 2-4 Months - Design Development 6-8 Months - Tender Drawings 4-6-8 Months - Shop Drawings and Fabrication Drawings 6 – 12 Months โครงการขนาดเล็ก Small Project ( <= 1,000 Sq.m ) - Conceptual Design 1-3 Month - Design Development 4 Months - Tender Drawings 2-4 Months - Shop Drawings and Fabrication Drawings 3 – 9 Months ที่มา : Mr. Peter Bouras ,Associate Director Facade , Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd.

ปจจัยการทำงานซึ่งเปนผลกับระยะเวลา 1. การประสานงานระหวางทางบริษัทออกแบบ Curtain Wall กับทางบริษัทที่ทำงานรวมโครงการ เชน - สถาปนิก (Architects) , - นักออกแบบภายในจำนวน 2-3 คน (Interior Designers), - นักออกแบบทางดานการจัดแสง (Lighting Designers), - วิศวกรออกแบบเสียง (Acoustic Engineers) , - วิศวกรโครงสราง (Structural Engineers) , - วิศวกรงานระบบ (M&E engineer), - ภูมิสถาปนิก(Landscape Designers) เปนตน 2. ความยากงายของแบบกอสราง เชน -งานออกแบบอาคารขนาดใหญที่มีความงายจะเสร็จเร็วกวา งานออกแบบอาคารขนาดเล็กกวาแตมีความยากกวา

TYPE 1 : Facade Contractor ( Working in general system ) Architect’s Firm Start Process

4.36 %

39.56 %

56.08 %

2 Weeks

4-6-8 Months

6-12 Months

Programing Owner

Functions

PROCESS

SKP Conceptual Design

Tender

Material Take-off

Preliminary Design Drawings

Building Massing

Measure from ruler

Redraw From DWG

Design Development

Manufacturers

Schematic Design Pattern Facade

Yes

Yes

Complex?

Facade Design ’s Firm

Fabrication dwgs No

Design Development Facade Options

Data Files Owner

Architect

DWG ?

Tender Documents PDFs

Tender

B.O.Q

Construction Documents

2D from elevations

No

Tender Award

Material Take-off

Design Development

Structural Calculation

2D Manual

Submit to Architect

Analyze some parts

Design Development

Contractor

Preliminary Design Drawings Begin New DWG

Tender

Design Develpoment

Product Samples

Revise Material Schedules

Material Selections

Material Take-off

Shop dwgs 2D Drawings

Facade Options

Related Documents

INFO. EXCHANGE

Data Files

PDFs

End Process Project’s Info

The Contract Document

Architectural Drawings DWG , PDFs

No Material Spec

Yes 3D Model

Sketchs

Complex ?

The Bill of Quantity - Dimensions - Quantity - Unit - Rate - Labor Cost

Total Cost

- Metals and metal alloys - Glass and glazing accessories - Applied finishes - Sealants , gaskets ,etc.

Calculations of the curtain Wall Systems - Moment of Inertia ( Excel ) - Finite Element Analysis - Window Design

Schedule Submission

Asbuilt dwgs Installation

Critical Issues

TYPE 1 : Facade Contractor ( Working in general system ) Architect’s Firm Start Process

4.36 %

39.56 %

56.08 %

2 Weeks

4-6-8 Months

6-12 Months

Copy PDFs to DWG

Manual - Dimensioning

It will take a long time , if architect do not give dwg files to facade designer.

Programing Owner

Small Issues

Functions

PROCESS

SKP Conceptual Design

Tender

Material Take-off

Preliminary Design Drawings

Building Massing

Measure from ruler

Redraw from DWG

Design Development

Manufacturers

Schematic Design Pattern Facade

Yes

Yes

Complex?

Facade Design ’s Firm

Fabrication dwgs No

Design Development Facade Options

Data Files Owner

Architect

DWG ?

Tender Documents PDFs

B.O.Q

Construction Documents

Tender Award

Material Take-off

Design Development

Structural Calculation

2D Manual

Submit to Architect

Analyze some parts

Tender

2D from elevations

No Design Development

Contractor

Preliminary Design Drawings Begin new dwg

Tender

Design Develpoment

Product Samples

Revise Material Schedules

Material Selections

Material Take-off

Shop dwgs 2D Drawings

Facade Options

Related Documents

INFO. EXCHANGE

Data Files

PDFs

2D Drawings + Pt No.

End Process Project’s Info

The Contract Document

Architectural Drawings DWG , PDFs

No Material Spec

Yes 3D Model

Sketchs

3D Axonometric

Complex ?

The Bill of Quantity - Dimensions - Quantity - Unit - Rate - Labor Cost

Total Cost

- Metals and metal alloys - Glass and glazing accessories - Applied finishes - Sealants , gaskets ,etc.

Calculations of the curtain Wall Systems - Moment of Inertia ( Excel ) - Finite Element Analysis - Window Design

Schedule Submission

Asbuilt dwgs Installation

TYPE 1 : Facade Contractor ( Working in general system )

Process Changes

13.76 %

0.46 %

1 Month

1 Day

Architect presented to owner.

3.21 %

82.57 %

1 Week - 1Month

From 4.36 % to 0.46 %

6-12 Months The durations is varied from complexity.

From 39.56 % to 3.21 %

Programing Owner

Functions

Architect’s Firm Start Process

Structural Calculation Analyze some parts

PROCESS

Conceptual Design

SKP

Building Massing

Design Development

Revise Model For some parts

Schematic Design Pattern Facade

SKP Tender

Facade Design ’s Firm

Design Development

Rename Components

Material Take-off

Categorize parts

Tender Award

SKP Design Development

3D Modeling

Data Files

Model Development

Owner

Architect

Extract from 3D model

Design Development

Preliminary Design Drawings

PDFs

2D Drawings

Redraw dwgs

Tender Tender

Construction Documents

Design Development

Material Take-off

Detailed Drawings

Extract from 3D model

Specific Parts

Related Documents

INFO. EXCHANGE

End Process Project’s Info

Material Spec

SKP 3D Model

Sketchs

The Contract Document

Architectural Drawings PDFs

The Bill of Quantity - Dimensions - Quantity - Unit - Rate - Labor Cost

Total Cost

- Metals and metal alloys - Glass and glazing accessories - Applied finishes - Sealants , gaskets ,etc.

Fabrication

2D from elevations

Calculations of the curtain Wall Systems - Moment of Inertia ( Excel ) - Finite Element Analysis - Window Design

Shop dwgs 2D Drawings

Facade Options

Data Files

Manufacturers

Design Development

Tender Documents B.O.Q

Fabrication dwgs

Schedule Submission

Contractor

Asbuilt dwgs Installation

TYPE 2 : Facade Consultant ( Working in parallel to the design with architect and owner ) Architect’s Firm Start Process

10 %

40 %

20 %

30 %

1-3 Months

4 Months

2-4 Months

3 – 9 Months Asbuilt dwgs Installation

Programing Owner

Contractor

Functions

Manufacturers

Fabrication dwgs

PROCESS

Conceptual Design

Unfold 3D > 2D

Building Massing

Yes Complex ?

Schematic Design

No

Facade Design ’s Firm

Pattern Facade

Design Development Facade Options

Data Files Owner

Architect

Design Development

Tender

3D Modeling

3D Modeling

Material Take-off

Remodeling

Model Development

Design Concept

Design Concept Owner

Design Concept

Architect

2D Drawings

Design Development

Typical Sections

Owner

Architect

2D from elevations

3D

Tender

Structural Calculation

Tender Documents

Preliminary Design Drawings

Analyze some parts

Submit

Embed Drawings

Docs

Design Development

Design Concept

Construction Documents

Design Development

2D

Product Samples

Detailed Drawings

Material Selections

Specific Parts

Fabrication dwgs

Tender

Shop dwgs

Calculations

2D Drawings

Curtain Wall Systems

Facade Options

INFO. EXCHANGE

Data Files

Related Documents

End Process Project’s Info

Architectural Drawings DWG , PDFs

- Metals and metal alloys - Glass and glazing accessories - Applied finishes - Sealants , gaskets ,etc.

No Material Spec

Yes 3D Model

Sketchs

Complex ?

The Tender Drawings

The Bill of Quantity

- Dimensions - Quantity - Unit - Rate - Labor Cost

Total Cost Schedule Submission

Tender Award Specialist Considerations - Lighting Design - Environmental Design - M&E ( Roof , Pipes etc. ) - Acoustic Design - Thermal The Architectural Drawings ; - The Wind Tunnel Test and Material Schedules Design Wind Load Study

The Contract Document

Critical Issues

TYPE 2 : Facade Consultant ( Working in parallel to the design with architect and owner ) Architect’s Firm Start Process

Small Issues

10 %

40 %

20 %

30 %

1-3 Months

4 Months

2-4 Months

3 – 9 Months Asbuilt dwgs

50 %

The process is based on dwg or both dwg and 3D modeling

Complex - convert file & extract from 3D

Installation

Programing Owner

Contractor

Functions

Manufacturers Convert File 3D Model from other programs in Catia

PROCESS

Conceptual Design

Fabrication dwgs Unfold 3D > 2D

Building Massing

Yes Complex ?

Schematic Design

No

Facade Design ’s Firm

Pattern Facade

Design Development Facade Options

Data Files Owner

Architect

Design Development

Tender

3D Modeling

3D Modeling

Material Take-off

Remodeling

Model Development

Design Concept

Design Concept Owner

Design Concept

Architect

2D Drawings

Design Development

Typical Sections

Owner

Architect

2D from elevations

3D

Tender

Structural Calculation

Tender Documents

Preliminary Design Drawings

Analyze some parts

Submit

Embed Drawings

Docs

Design Development

Design Concept

Construction Documents

Design Development

2D

Product Samples

Detailed Drawings

Material Selections

Specific Parts

Fabrication dwgs

Tender

Shop dwgs

Calculations

2D Drawings

Curtain Wall Systems

Facade Options

3D Axonometric

INFO. EXCHANGE

Data Files

Related Documents

2D Drawings + Pt No.

End Process Project’s Info

Architectural Drawings DWG , PDFs

- Metals and metal alloys - Glass and glazing accessories - Applied finishes - Sealants , gaskets ,etc.

No Material Spec

Yes

The Tender Drawings

Total Cost Schedule Submission

Tender Award The Contract Document

3D Model Sketchs

The Bill of Quantity

- Dimensions - Quantity - Unit - Rate - Labor Cost

Complex ?

The Architectural Drawings ; Material Schedules

Specialist Considerations - Lighting Design - Environmental Design - M&E ( Roof , Pipes etc. ) - Acoustic Design - Thermal - The Wind Tunnel Test and Design Wind Load Study

Process Changes

TYPE 2 : Facade Consultant ( Working in parallel to the design with architect and owner )

21.27 % 1 Month

9.95 %

4.96 %

63.82 %

2-3 Weeks

1 Week

3 – 9 Months

31.2 % Architect + Facade Designer Modeling

The durations is varied from complexity.

Some companies convert 3D file from ohther programs to Catia.

Programing Owner

From 50 % to 9.95 % of modeling.

Functions

From 20 % to 4.96 % of material take-off.

Architect’s Firm Start Process

PROCESS

Conceptual Design Building Massing

Design Development

Structural Calculation Tender Award

Analyze some parts

Schematic Design

Facade Design’s Firm

Pattern Facade

SKP

SKP

Design Development

Tender

Revise Model

Material Take-off

Fabrication dwgs

Extract from 3D

2D from elevations

For some parts

Manufacturers

Fabrication

SKP Design Development

Data Files

3D Modeling Model Development

Owner

Architect

Design Development Owner

Architect

Design Development

Typical Sections

Tender Documents

Structure

Submit

Docs

Design Development

Tender

Detailed Drawings

Construction Documents

Preliminary Design Drawings

Specific Parts

Embed Drawings

Shop dwgs 2D Drawings

Facade Options Design Development

Product Samples

INFO. EXCHANGE

Material Selections

End Process

Related Documents

Data Files

Project’s Info

Record Model for undertake data

Total Cost The Tender Drawings

Architectural Drawings DWG , PDFs The Contract Document

Material Spec

SKP 3D Model

Sketchs

The Architectural Drawings ; Material Schedules

The Bill of Quantity

Specialist Considerations - Lighting Design - Environmental Design - M&E ( Roof , Pipes etc. ) - Acoustic Design - Thermal - The Wind Tunnel Test and Design Wind Load Study

Schedule Submission

Contractor

Asbuilt dwgs Installation

Requirements from Interviews PROCESS Modeling

Material Take-off

ADDITIONAL IDEA

Axonometric + Part Number Table

Unfolded Face

Color Symbozer + Part Number Table

TYPE 1 :

KIM YOO SENG Co.Ltd Teasco ( Thailand ) Y.H.S. INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD TYPE 2 :

Arup Facade Engineering

“”

Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. Global Façade System Co.,

Can have or not have Modeling and Material Take-off

Unfold Unitized Panel Y.H.S. INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD , and Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. would like to have.

In conducting the interviews of all companies need these two functions to remodel the facade and extract the 3D model to fill in their Bill of Quantiy forms of each company.

- Mr. Buncha Wongbunthoon , Architect and Sale Manager , Y.H.S. INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD. , said that “ To be convenient to draw on shop drawings and fabrication drawings for Complex structure , We need only pane , afterward the designers can draw in details on the pane ”.

Axonometric + Part Number Table Every company needs to have this function

- Mr. Peter Bouras ,Associate Director Facade , Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. said that “ Currently on Central Embassy the contractor is using Catia to do this by trying to convert Rhino files, unfortunately Rhino is not so accurate and the contractor is having problems doing the unfolding.”

- Mr. Peter Bouras , Associate Director Facade , Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. said that “ Regarding 3D , to be used for fabrication you need to have a 2D drawing or at least axonometric drawings.This would be great, currently ACAD has and axonometric function, but for contractors having quantities would be beneficial…”

- Mr. Joe Rakchaiwan , Design Manager , Global Façade System Co., Ltd said that “ For converting 3D to 2D Axonometric Drawings in AutoCad is very good because if doing 3D in AutoCad would be difficult to place on Layout ”.

- Mr. Ekkarat Panikorn , Engineer , Teasco ( Thailand ) Co.,Ltd, said that “ We need to do 3D and Axonometric Drawings everytime , and have to be tag on Part Numbers on a 2D drawing and also include in a table besides the drawing and some enlarge structures pictures from the main facade ”.

Color Symbozer + Part Number Table

“”

Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. gave the opinion that the colors would make the model blured and difficult to see , but if the colors present different types of materials is fine.

Other companies said that the function is ok if can do for communication.

Application from the Requirements

3D Modeling

Stick System

Material Take-Off

Layer’s Names

Weights

Axonometric Views + Part Component Numbers -> Exports

Views

Export

Areas Building Connections ตารางขอมูลเปนไฟล Excel ซึ่งประกอบไปดวย การถอดปริมาณชิ้นสวนวัสดุที่ระบุขนาด , พื้นที่ , ความกวาง , ความสูง , น้ำหนักของโครงสราง

- ระบบแยกโครงกรอบ ( Stick System ) - ระบบผนังสำเร็จรูป ( Unitised System ) - อุปกรณยึดติดกระจก ( Building Connections )

Unfolded face

Colors

Face Exploded

to distinguish different materials or panel design

Table

L kg

Unitised System

Color Symbolyzer

การ Export มุมมอง Axonometric และขอมูลชื่อ Component เปนตาราง DWG เพื่อใชประกอบแบบกอสรางใน โปรแกรม AutoCad

การแบงประเภทผิวอาคารจากวัสดุ Curtain Wall หรือการแบงประเภทรูปแบบ Panel Pattern ที่มีความแตกตางกัน โดยกำหนดการตั้งชื่อและการใสสีในโมเดลโด ยผูใชงาน สรุปเปนตารางประเภทวัสดุ

การคลี่แบบผิวอาคารที่มีความซับซอนจากโ มเดล 3 มิติ เปนแบบ 2 มิติ ในการประกอบแบบกอสราง ( Shop Drawings ) และแบบเพื่อใชในการผลิตวัสดุ ( Fabrication Drawings )

Meinhardt uses the colors to present the different materials - Metal , Glass , Stone etc.

Meinhardt uses the colors to present the different materials - Metal , Glass , Stone etc.

BILL OF QUANTITY ( B.O.Q ) Tender from dwg or pdf elevations

Cost estimator > Contractor > Architect

After tender more details of B.O.Q

Cost estimator > Contractor > Owner

BILL OF QUANTITY ( B.O.Q ) Tender from dwg or pdf elevations

Cost estimator > Contractor > Architect

After tender more details of B.O.Q

Cost estimator > Contractor > Owner

Axonometric Drawings + Part Numbers Enclos Inc.

MARK

MATERIAL

LENGTH

QTY

REMARK

PART NO.

PARTIAL FACADE DIMENSION +MATERIAL

ENLARGE STRUCTURE

MARK

MATERIAL

LENGTH

QTY

REMARK

Unitised System - Member Categorization

Head

Pictogram Different Profiles Mullion

Head

Transom

Sill

Mullion

Sill

Head Mullion

Transom

Sill

- Mr.Peter Bouras ,Associate Director Facade , Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. “ Mullions and transoms can be sloped, on a conventional building you have the top member which is horizontal called the head, the bottom member is also horizontal is called the sill, the mullion is vertical member on either side to form the unitised panel and intermediate members are called transoms.

On a Project the floor is always horizontal right? So when you have a unitised façade system the stack joint or male (head) and female (sill) extrusions at the slab level must be horizontal, the mullions can be sloped and the intermediate members can also be sloped, we in fact have done this on a number of projects, refer to the photo attachment of a project in Jakarta, Indonesia "Wisma Bakri". ”

Stick System - Face Sealed System

- Mr.Peter Bouras ,Associate Director Facade , Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. “ In this case the members can be sloped in all directions, and there really is not a terminology that can separate each, the façade systems is called "face sealed" systems which is a "stick" facade systems and rely on the sealant at all the joints to keep the water out. ”

FACADE STRUCTURE DESIGN

- Mr. Joe Rakchaiwan , Design Manager , Global Façade System Co.,Ltd “ Vertical structures and longer length are determined to be mullions.

Horizontal structures are generally be transoms. The both structures can be sloped or design in any ways. ”