Facade Designer
Research
3D Model
Yes Complex?
Architect 3D modeling
No
Structural Design
DWGs
Structural Calculations
Facade Design Working Diagrams
Outcomes
Material Take -off
Process Pre-design Information Gathering
Authoring software/production method Original building design documents GIS application
Digital design models
SketchUp
Conceptual Design
3D Max Rhino
Architect’s Firm Process
Schematic Design
Maya Revit
Design Development
etc.
Digital Fabrication Model
Model
3D printing Laser cutters
Prototypes Physical Objects
Assembly
Process
Authoring software/production method 3D Model with a single polygon
Documents
Building design documents + Wind Load
DWG + PDFs
Digital design models
Remodel the entire building Conceptual Design
Facade Design’s Firm Process
SketchUp,3D Max,Rhino AutoCad 3D, Revit,Cartia
* Design Development
Bidding
Tender Drawings
SketchUp, 3D Max, Rhino AutoCad 3D, Revit, Cartia
Material Take-off Cost estimation Detail Drawings
Excel MathCad Window Design Strand 7 Staad Pro ProCad Rstab Robot Algor Spacegass
- AutoCad or Revit
Prototypes Shop Drawing & Fabrication Drawings
Assembly
- AutoCad
Services Overview TYPE 1 : Facade Contractor ( Working in general system )
1
2
Tender Documents
3
Tender Award
Schedule Submission
Material Take-Off B.O.Q
4
Design Development
Shop Drawings Fabrication Drawings
Structural Calculations Detail Drawings
More Details
Revise B.O.Q Material Schedules
- บริษัท กิ้มหยูเส็งคากระจก จำกัด ( KIM YOO SENG Co.Ltd ) - บริษัท Teasco ( Thailand ) Co.,Ltd - บริษัท Y.H.S. INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
TYPE 2 : Facade Consultant ( Working in parallel to the design with architect and owner )
1
Conceptual Design
2
Design Development
3
Tender Documents
4
Tender Award
5
Shop Drawings Fabrication Drawings
Material Take-Off Remodel 3D Facade
3D Model Development
B.O.Q
Product Sample + Prices
Structural Calculations
Tender Documents + Drawings
Detailed Drawings
Contract
Specialist Considerations
- Lighting Design - Environmental Design - M&E ( Roof , Pipes etc. ) - Acoustic Design - Thermal , The Wind Tunnel Test and Design Wind Load Study
Schedule Submission
- บริษัท Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. - บริษัท Arup Facade Engineering - บริษัท Global Façade System Co., Ltd
Time Durations
ระยะเวลาการทำงานโดยทั่วไป โครงการขนาดใหญ Big Project ( >=10,000 Sq.m ) - Conceptual Design 2-4 Months - Design Development 6-8 Months - Tender Drawings 4-6-8 Months - Shop Drawings and Fabrication Drawings 6 – 12 Months โครงการขนาดเล็ก Small Project ( <= 1,000 Sq.m ) - Conceptual Design 1-3 Month - Design Development 4 Months - Tender Drawings 2-4 Months - Shop Drawings and Fabrication Drawings 3 – 9 Months ที่มา : Mr. Peter Bouras ,Associate Director Facade , Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd.
ปจจัยการทำงานซึ่งเปนผลกับระยะเวลา 1. การประสานงานระหวางทางบริษัทออกแบบ Curtain Wall กับทางบริษัทที่ทำงานรวมโครงการ เชน - สถาปนิก (Architects) , - นักออกแบบภายในจำนวน 2-3 คน (Interior Designers), - นักออกแบบทางดานการจัดแสง (Lighting Designers), - วิศวกรออกแบบเสียง (Acoustic Engineers) , - วิศวกรโครงสราง (Structural Engineers) , - วิศวกรงานระบบ (M&E engineer), - ภูมิสถาปนิก(Landscape Designers) เปนตน 2. ความยากงายของแบบกอสราง เชน -งานออกแบบอาคารขนาดใหญที่มีความงายจะเสร็จเร็วกวา งานออกแบบอาคารขนาดเล็กกวาแตมีความยากกวา
TYPE 1 : Facade Contractor ( Working in general system ) Architect’s Firm Start Process
4.36 %
39.56 %
56.08 %
2 Weeks
4-6-8 Months
6-12 Months
Programing Owner
Functions
PROCESS
SKP Conceptual Design
Tender
Material Take-off
Preliminary Design Drawings
Building Massing
Measure from ruler
Redraw From DWG
Design Development
Manufacturers
Schematic Design Pattern Facade
Yes
Yes
Complex?
Facade Design ’s Firm
Fabrication dwgs No
Design Development Facade Options
Data Files Owner
Architect
DWG ?
Tender Documents PDFs
Tender
B.O.Q
Construction Documents
2D from elevations
No
Tender Award
Material Take-off
Design Development
Structural Calculation
2D Manual
Submit to Architect
Analyze some parts
Design Development
Contractor
Preliminary Design Drawings Begin New DWG
Tender
Design Develpoment
Product Samples
Revise Material Schedules
Material Selections
Material Take-off
Shop dwgs 2D Drawings
Facade Options
Related Documents
INFO. EXCHANGE
Data Files
PDFs
End Process Project’s Info
The Contract Document
Architectural Drawings DWG , PDFs
No Material Spec
Yes 3D Model
Sketchs
Complex ?
The Bill of Quantity - Dimensions - Quantity - Unit - Rate - Labor Cost
Total Cost
- Metals and metal alloys - Glass and glazing accessories - Applied finishes - Sealants , gaskets ,etc.
Calculations of the curtain Wall Systems - Moment of Inertia ( Excel ) - Finite Element Analysis - Window Design
Schedule Submission
Asbuilt dwgs Installation
Critical Issues
TYPE 1 : Facade Contractor ( Working in general system ) Architect’s Firm Start Process
4.36 %
39.56 %
56.08 %
2 Weeks
4-6-8 Months
6-12 Months
Copy PDFs to DWG
Manual - Dimensioning
It will take a long time , if architect do not give dwg files to facade designer.
Programing Owner
Small Issues
Functions
PROCESS
SKP Conceptual Design
Tender
Material Take-off
Preliminary Design Drawings
Building Massing
Measure from ruler
Redraw from DWG
Design Development
Manufacturers
Schematic Design Pattern Facade
Yes
Yes
Complex?
Facade Design ’s Firm
Fabrication dwgs No
Design Development Facade Options
Data Files Owner
Architect
DWG ?
Tender Documents PDFs
B.O.Q
Construction Documents
Tender Award
Material Take-off
Design Development
Structural Calculation
2D Manual
Submit to Architect
Analyze some parts
Tender
2D from elevations
No Design Development
Contractor
Preliminary Design Drawings Begin new dwg
Tender
Design Develpoment
Product Samples
Revise Material Schedules
Material Selections
Material Take-off
Shop dwgs 2D Drawings
Facade Options
Related Documents
INFO. EXCHANGE
Data Files
PDFs
2D Drawings + Pt No.
End Process Project’s Info
The Contract Document
Architectural Drawings DWG , PDFs
No Material Spec
Yes 3D Model
Sketchs
3D Axonometric
Complex ?
The Bill of Quantity - Dimensions - Quantity - Unit - Rate - Labor Cost
Total Cost
- Metals and metal alloys - Glass and glazing accessories - Applied finishes - Sealants , gaskets ,etc.
Calculations of the curtain Wall Systems - Moment of Inertia ( Excel ) - Finite Element Analysis - Window Design
Schedule Submission
Asbuilt dwgs Installation
TYPE 1 : Facade Contractor ( Working in general system )
Process Changes
13.76 %
0.46 %
1 Month
1 Day
Architect presented to owner.
3.21 %
82.57 %
1 Week - 1Month
From 4.36 % to 0.46 %
6-12 Months The durations is varied from complexity.
From 39.56 % to 3.21 %
Programing Owner
Functions
Architect’s Firm Start Process
Structural Calculation Analyze some parts
PROCESS
Conceptual Design
SKP
Building Massing
Design Development
Revise Model For some parts
Schematic Design Pattern Facade
SKP Tender
Facade Design ’s Firm
Design Development
Rename Components
Material Take-off
Categorize parts
Tender Award
SKP Design Development
3D Modeling
Data Files
Model Development
Owner
Architect
Extract from 3D model
Design Development
Preliminary Design Drawings
PDFs
2D Drawings
Redraw dwgs
Tender Tender
Construction Documents
Design Development
Material Take-off
Detailed Drawings
Extract from 3D model
Specific Parts
Related Documents
INFO. EXCHANGE
End Process Project’s Info
Material Spec
SKP 3D Model
Sketchs
The Contract Document
Architectural Drawings PDFs
The Bill of Quantity - Dimensions - Quantity - Unit - Rate - Labor Cost
Total Cost
- Metals and metal alloys - Glass and glazing accessories - Applied finishes - Sealants , gaskets ,etc.
Fabrication
2D from elevations
Calculations of the curtain Wall Systems - Moment of Inertia ( Excel ) - Finite Element Analysis - Window Design
Shop dwgs 2D Drawings
Facade Options
Data Files
Manufacturers
Design Development
Tender Documents B.O.Q
Fabrication dwgs
Schedule Submission
Contractor
Asbuilt dwgs Installation
TYPE 2 : Facade Consultant ( Working in parallel to the design with architect and owner ) Architect’s Firm Start Process
10 %
40 %
20 %
30 %
1-3 Months
4 Months
2-4 Months
3 – 9 Months Asbuilt dwgs Installation
Programing Owner
Contractor
Functions
Manufacturers
Fabrication dwgs
PROCESS
Conceptual Design
Unfold 3D > 2D
Building Massing
Yes Complex ?
Schematic Design
No
Facade Design ’s Firm
Pattern Facade
Design Development Facade Options
Data Files Owner
Architect
Design Development
Tender
3D Modeling
3D Modeling
Material Take-off
Remodeling
Model Development
Design Concept
Design Concept Owner
Design Concept
Architect
2D Drawings
Design Development
Typical Sections
Owner
Architect
2D from elevations
3D
Tender
Structural Calculation
Tender Documents
Preliminary Design Drawings
Analyze some parts
Submit
Embed Drawings
Docs
Design Development
Design Concept
Construction Documents
Design Development
2D
Product Samples
Detailed Drawings
Material Selections
Specific Parts
Fabrication dwgs
Tender
Shop dwgs
Calculations
2D Drawings
Curtain Wall Systems
Facade Options
INFO. EXCHANGE
Data Files
Related Documents
End Process Project’s Info
Architectural Drawings DWG , PDFs
- Metals and metal alloys - Glass and glazing accessories - Applied finishes - Sealants , gaskets ,etc.
No Material Spec
Yes 3D Model
Sketchs
Complex ?
The Tender Drawings
The Bill of Quantity
- Dimensions - Quantity - Unit - Rate - Labor Cost
Total Cost Schedule Submission
Tender Award Specialist Considerations - Lighting Design - Environmental Design - M&E ( Roof , Pipes etc. ) - Acoustic Design - Thermal The Architectural Drawings ; - The Wind Tunnel Test and Material Schedules Design Wind Load Study
The Contract Document
Critical Issues
TYPE 2 : Facade Consultant ( Working in parallel to the design with architect and owner ) Architect’s Firm Start Process
Small Issues
10 %
40 %
20 %
30 %
1-3 Months
4 Months
2-4 Months
3 – 9 Months Asbuilt dwgs
50 %
The process is based on dwg or both dwg and 3D modeling
Complex - convert file & extract from 3D
Installation
Programing Owner
Contractor
Functions
Manufacturers Convert File 3D Model from other programs in Catia
PROCESS
Conceptual Design
Fabrication dwgs Unfold 3D > 2D
Building Massing
Yes Complex ?
Schematic Design
No
Facade Design ’s Firm
Pattern Facade
Design Development Facade Options
Data Files Owner
Architect
Design Development
Tender
3D Modeling
3D Modeling
Material Take-off
Remodeling
Model Development
Design Concept
Design Concept Owner
Design Concept
Architect
2D Drawings
Design Development
Typical Sections
Owner
Architect
2D from elevations
3D
Tender
Structural Calculation
Tender Documents
Preliminary Design Drawings
Analyze some parts
Submit
Embed Drawings
Docs
Design Development
Design Concept
Construction Documents
Design Development
2D
Product Samples
Detailed Drawings
Material Selections
Specific Parts
Fabrication dwgs
Tender
Shop dwgs
Calculations
2D Drawings
Curtain Wall Systems
Facade Options
3D Axonometric
INFO. EXCHANGE
Data Files
Related Documents
2D Drawings + Pt No.
End Process Project’s Info
Architectural Drawings DWG , PDFs
- Metals and metal alloys - Glass and glazing accessories - Applied finishes - Sealants , gaskets ,etc.
No Material Spec
Yes
The Tender Drawings
Total Cost Schedule Submission
Tender Award The Contract Document
3D Model Sketchs
The Bill of Quantity
- Dimensions - Quantity - Unit - Rate - Labor Cost
Complex ? The Architectural Drawings ; Material Schedules
Specialist Considerations - Lighting Design - Environmental Design - M&E ( Roof , Pipes etc. ) - Acoustic Design - Thermal - The Wind Tunnel Test and Design Wind Load Study
Process Changes
TYPE 2 : Facade Consultant ( Working in parallel to the design with architect and owner )
21.27 % 1 Month
9.95 %
4.96 %
63.82 %
2-3 Weeks
1 Week
3 – 9 Months
31.2 % Architect + Facade Designer Modeling
The durations is varied from complexity. Some companies convert 3D file from ohther programs to Catia.
Programing Owner
From 50 % to 9.95 % of modeling.
Functions
From 20 % to 4.96 % of material take-off.
Architect’s Firm Start Process
PROCESS
Conceptual Design Building Massing
Design Development
Structural Calculation Tender Award
Analyze some parts
Schematic Design
Facade Design’s Firm
Pattern Facade
SKP
SKP
Design Development
Tender
Revise Model
Material Take-off
Fabrication dwgs
Extract from 3D
2D from elevations
For some parts
Manufacturers
Fabrication
SKP Design Development
Data Files
3D Modeling Model Development
Owner
Architect
Design Development Owner
Architect
Design Development
Typical Sections
Tender Documents
Structure
Submit
Docs
Design Development
Tender
Detailed Drawings
Construction Documents
Preliminary Design Drawings
Specific Parts
Embed Drawings
Shop dwgs 2D Drawings
Facade Options Design Development
Product Samples
INFO. EXCHANGE
Material Selections
End Process
Related Documents
Data Files
Project’s Info
Record Model for undertake data
Total Cost The Tender Drawings
Architectural Drawings DWG , PDFs The Contract Document
Material Spec
SKP 3D Model
Sketchs
The Architectural Drawings ; Material Schedules
The Bill of Quantity
Specialist Considerations - Lighting Design - Environmental Design - M&E ( Roof , Pipes etc. ) - Acoustic Design - Thermal - The Wind Tunnel Test and Design Wind Load Study
Schedule Submission
Contractor
Asbuilt dwgs Installation
Requirements from Interviews PROCESS Modeling
Material Take-off
ADDITIONAL IDEA
Axonometric + Part Number Table
Unfolded Face
Color Symbozer + Part Number Table
TYPE 1 :
KIM YOO SENG Co.Ltd Teasco ( Thailand ) Y.H.S. INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD TYPE 2 :
Arup Facade Engineering
“”
Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. Global Façade System Co.,
Can have or not have Modeling and Material Take-off
Unfold Unitized Panel Y.H.S. INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD , and Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. would like to have.
In conducting the interviews of all companies need these two functions to remodel the facade and extract the 3D model to fill in their Bill of Quantiy forms of each company.
- Mr. Buncha Wongbunthoon , Architect and Sale Manager , Y.H.S. INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD. , said that “ To be convenient to draw on shop drawings and fabrication drawings for Complex structure , We need only pane , afterward the designers can draw in details on the pane ”.
Axonometric + Part Number Table Every company needs to have this function
- Mr. Peter Bouras ,Associate Director Facade , Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. said that “ Currently on Central Embassy the contractor is using Catia to do this by trying to convert Rhino files, unfortunately Rhino is not so accurate and the contractor is having problems doing the unfolding.”
- Mr. Peter Bouras , Associate Director Facade , Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. said that “ Regarding 3D , to be used for fabrication you need to have a 2D drawing or at least axonometric drawings.This would be great, currently ACAD has and axonometric function, but for contractors having quantities would be beneficial…” - Mr. Joe Rakchaiwan , Design Manager , Global Façade System Co., Ltd said that “ For converting 3D to 2D Axonometric Drawings in AutoCad is very good because if doing 3D in AutoCad would be difficult to place on Layout ”. - Mr. Ekkarat Panikorn , Engineer , Teasco ( Thailand ) Co.,Ltd, said that “ We need to do 3D and Axonometric Drawings everytime , and have to be tag on Part Numbers on a 2D drawing and also include in a table besides the drawing and some enlarge structures pictures from the main facade ”.
Color Symbozer + Part Number Table
“”
Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. gave the opinion that the colors would make the model blured and difficult to see , but if the colors present different types of materials is fine. Other companies said that the function is ok if can do for communication.
Application from the Requirements
3D Modeling
Stick System
Material Take-Off
Layer’s Names
Weights
Axonometric Views + Part Component Numbers -> Exports
Views
Export
Areas Building Connections ตารางขอมูลเปนไฟล Excel ซึ่งประกอบไปดวย การถอดปริมาณชิ้นสวนวัสดุที่ระบุขนาด , พื้นที่ , ความกวาง , ความสูง , น้ำหนักของโครงสราง
- ระบบแยกโครงกรอบ ( Stick System ) - ระบบผนังสำเร็จรูป ( Unitised System ) - อุปกรณยึดติดกระจก ( Building Connections )
Unfolded face
Colors
Face Exploded
to distinguish different materials or panel design
Table
L kg
Unitised System
Color Symbolyzer
การ Export มุมมอง Axonometric และขอมูลชื่อ Component เปนตาราง DWG เพื่อใชประกอบแบบกอสรางใน โปรแกรม AutoCad
การแบงประเภทผิวอาคารจากวัสดุ Curtain Wall หรือการแบงประเภทรูปแบบ Panel Pattern ที่มีความแตกตางกัน โดยกำหนดการตั้งชื่อและการใสสีในโมเดลโด ยผูใชงาน สรุปเปนตารางประเภทวัสดุ
การคลี่แบบผิวอาคารที่มีความซับซอนจากโ มเดล 3 มิติ เปนแบบ 2 มิติ ในการประกอบแบบกอสราง ( Shop Drawings ) และแบบเพื่อใชในการผลิตวัสดุ ( Fabrication Drawings )
Meinhardt uses the colors to present the different materials - Metal , Glass , Stone etc.
Meinhardt uses the colors to present the different materials - Metal , Glass , Stone etc.
BILL OF QUANTITY ( B.O.Q ) Tender from dwg or pdf elevations
Cost estimator > Contractor > Architect
After tender more details of B.O.Q
Cost estimator > Contractor > Owner
BILL OF QUANTITY ( B.O.Q ) Tender from dwg or pdf elevations
Cost estimator > Contractor > Architect
After tender more details of B.O.Q
Cost estimator > Contractor > Owner
Axonometric Drawings + Part Numbers Enclos Inc.
MARK
MATERIAL
LENGTH
QTY
REMARK
PART NO.
PARTIAL FACADE DIMENSION +MATERIAL
ENLARGE STRUCTURE
MARK
MATERIAL
LENGTH
QTY
REMARK
Unitised System - Member Categorization
Head
Pictogram Different Profiles Mullion
Head
Transom
Sill
Mullion
Sill
Head Mullion
Transom
Sill
- Mr.Peter Bouras ,Associate Director Facade , Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. “ Mullions and transoms can be sloped, on a conventional building you have the top member which is horizontal called the head, the bottom member is also horizontal is called the sill, the mullion is vertical member on either side to form the unitised panel and intermediate members are called transoms. On a Project the floor is always horizontal right? So when you have a unitised façade system the stack joint or male (head) and female (sill) extrusions at the slab level must be horizontal, the mullions can be sloped and the intermediate members can also be sloped, we in fact have done this on a number of projects, refer to the photo attachment of a project in Jakarta, Indonesia "Wisma Bakri". ”
Stick System - Face Sealed System
- Mr.Peter Bouras ,Associate Director Facade , Meinhardt (Thailand) Ltd. “ In this case the members can be sloped in all directions, and there really is not a terminology that can separate each, the façade systems is called "face sealed" systems which is a "stick" facade systems and rely on the sealant at all the joints to keep the water out. ”
FACADE STRUCTURE DESIGN
- Mr. Joe Rakchaiwan , Design Manager , Global Façade System Co.,Ltd “ Vertical structures and longer length are determined to be mullions. Horizontal structures are generally be transoms. The both structures can be sloped or design in any ways. ”