SEP. 2020 ISSUE 38
Ella 陳嘉樺 從我們進階成另一種我們
築起海龜城牆的生態保母 童真的眼裡沒有膚色
大家都一樣_法比歐
我 Us 們
專訪：海或．瘋市集 雷射聚焦般專注的
Cindy Chao談「我們」
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Editor's Note 因為緣分同住在這美好的地球， 你、我、他組合就組成了「我們」 「我們」這個概念，卻映照了「自私」的存在
相對於宇宙，在這小小世界裡， 分了太多的你我、我們、他們！ 讓這個世界失去了和諧與平衡， 讓現在變得不堪，各懷私心， 讓這星球幾乎喘不過氣來。 更妙的是花更多資源/錢移居外星球的想法 卻不把資源/錢用在改善治癒自己住的地方 重點是，仔細思量後 出走不了的，留下的幾乎是沒有造成任何破壞的人
放下分別，奉行利他 「他不是別人，他也是我們」 這句話時常放在心裡， 「我們」就能往好前進一小步
我們同活在這個世界 應該彼此照顧 應該減少污染 應該盡力幫助弱勢 不愧對過去留住美好的「我們」 保留未來「我們」的笑顏！
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Fate has brought us together in this world You, me, them; it’s Us The concept behind “Us” reflects a selfishness that exists
We are so small compared to the Universe Yet so divided at the same time The world has lost its balance and harmony It has become unbearable and greedy The planet is suffocating
We spend so much money trying to move to another planet Why don’t we spend more money trying to save it? Those who can afford to leave might leave And those left behind, ironically am the ones who did it no harm
Let go of our differences Be altruistic “He is not someone else, he is one of us” If we can remember this in our hearts Then we can be more unified moving forward
We live in this world together We should take care of each other We should reduce the pollution We should engage in charity work
Let us make the past proud By creating smiles for the future.
總編輯
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CONTENTS 04 編輯的話
封面故事 08
Ella_“我們”很大，每個生命彼此影響，共生共存。
Joshua Lin Photography 林炳存 專欄 38 時間無法定義的「我們」
#ABOOKChallenge 26 獲選名單與名人評語
Column 專欄 32 雷射聚焦般專注的 Cindy，如何細微的談談她 的「我們」 _Cindy Chao 60 用虛擬身份存在的我們 _ 田心蕾 94 童真的眼裡沒有膚色，大家都一樣 _ 法比歐
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Our Fashion Our Style 時尚攝影 54 交換日記 _ TONNIE 68 US_ Kuan 80 魅麗 M.L Today_ A Yung Chang 90 Value Color Character_ Cindy 114 海廢 _ ASH 142 在愛之下平等 _ 蘇益良
Interview 訪談
ABOOK's Pick
50 來自異鄉的我們
106 海或．瘋市集
126 築起海龜城牆的生態保母
From Readers 156 脈絡 _ 蕭希如 160 我們 _ 李其恩 162 李柏毅 164 Jerry Chou 166 陳沂如
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“我們”很大， 每個生命彼此影響，共生共存。 Life is a co-existence; “We”, are lives intertwined ＿ 封面人物 Ella
從 S.H.E 女子團體出道至今快二十年，勇敢有自信的 女孩經過淬煉更多了從容看待人生的幽默智慧。不管 是台上或台下的 Ella 陳嘉樺，似乎是顆滿格電池，總 讓身旁的人感受到她對於工作及生活的熱情，有她在 的地方一定有歡笑，像是去年開始的艾拉秀，Ella 用 自己的人生經歷與大家共同分享，人生也許不容易， 但當“我們”聚在一起，會是很大的力量。
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Makeup / @jadelee 李凱潔 Hair / @ben799979H Ben chen(Hip HC)
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能說說『晚安歌』的創作靈感以及歷 程嗎？
把我的感受，把我所能夠理解的一些人生觀跟態度
其實晚安歌是艾拉秀的壓軸，是我在去年十二月
其實我反而感謝這個疫情，讓我們可以有時間讓
的時候，滿三十八歲辦了一個生日會，然後就有
整個艾拉秀更升級，不只升級，是整個全新的內
了艾拉秀。但我們希望在這個秀的最後，我可以
容。我們之前的想法就是只是升級版，但這次有
送大家一個禮物，所以就寫了『晚安歌』。然後
更多的時間準備，內容上一定會有不一樣的呈
在創作的過程，讓我聯想那時生勁寶的生產過
現。所以你如果有機會再來看一次的話，你看到
程。因為晚安歌的副歌歌詞是在說：『謝謝你很
的會是一個很全新的內容，今年可能有機會，年
努力，謝謝你沒有放棄，謝謝你一路堅持到這
底前一定會有『艾拉秀』的消息。
跟你們分享，所以真的只能叫艾拉秀了。
裡。』我除了想要跟台下的你們說謝謝之外，我 也想要謝謝我自己，其實每一個人來到這個世界
成為人母後，心境上有什麼轉變嗎？
上，都是非常不容易的。如果有輪迴，你要輪個 幾回，才能成為一個人，你才有資格擁有這個肉
其實最大的感受就是你想要成為一個更好的人，
身。然後透過這個肉身去體驗這世間的一切所有
你會發現孩子一直在吸收，你的一言一行都會影
的好與不好，所有的感受，所以能夠成為一個人
響他。可是我最近有一個感受很特別，我發現小
不容易，你更應該要謝謝自己從出生到現在，你
孩真的很像天使，他們純淨的性格是天然的，是
一路堅持下來，沒有放棄，然後很努力的過好你
他身上原本就有的。我覺得我許的願望成真，因
的每一天，即便有時候生命非常的困難，這首歌
為我只希望我的孩子能夠健康、平安、快樂，而
是這樣子來的。
且善良。
什麼是『艾拉秀』！？在籌備『艾拉 秀』時有因為疫情被影響嗎？
他善良這點是真的有，像我昨天晚上跟他講一個 故事，他聽故事的時候有一個很奇妙的反應，就 是他不知道怎麼面對這個感覺。他覺得這個公主
艾拉秀，我覺得它有點像是用我自己人生的經歷
的行為是錯的，他不應該這樣子對待別人，可是
跟大家分享，然後用一種比較幽默、輕鬆的方式，
他不知道該怎麼表達，所以他就對著我傻笑，但
讓你覺得開心一點，讓你覺得日子其實可以過下
他的傻笑裡面帶著很多的尷尬，而且他其實很想
去的、雖然辛苦，日子很不好過，但是也可以用
哭，卻用笑來掩飾，讓我覺得很不捨，我知道他
比較正面、然後輕鬆一點的心態去面對，就是因
很想哭，後來故事講完，我就跟他講話，他果然
為你的人生不容易，很多困難，那你更應該要去
就大哭了。我說：你是不是覺得那個青蛙被公主
轉念，然後讓自己去開心的過好每一天。
這樣對待很可憐？他放聲大哭，我跟他說：勁寶 要記得，我們要善待每一個身邊的人，然後開始
我希望來看艾拉秀的人是充滿歡樂的、有所獲得
講他身邊的人，你要善待爸爸媽媽，善待阿姨，
的，最後可說是滿載而歸值回票價的感覺，這個秀
善待世間萬物，在學校你也要善待你的同學。然
非常的獨特，我沒有辦法去定義它，因為他也不是
後他就回答：好 , 我知道。
演唱會、舞台劇，然後又不只是脫口秀。但我真的 把我會的東西都放進去了，然後把我的人生經歷、
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適時給他機會教育，會發現小孩子教你的也很
不要求回報，那種愛是天生的，對我來說是
多，當了媽媽以後，我希望自己可以成為更好的
當媽媽才知道的，真的很強烈，會想說怎麼
人，但是我會發現，對待小孩的確是沒有那麼有
會有人可以這麼愛一個人？可是他就是這麼
耐心，他反而會激發出我更可怕更不好的那一
愛你。
面。心想原來我是這麼拙劣的靈魂（泣），怎麼 會這樣對待我的親生孩子，那個時候會覺得很 沮喪、很傷心。可是至少我有這樣的覺悟跟感受， 在沒有當媽媽之前，你都不會想到這些。在沒有 當媽媽之前，你會發現，你有時候會把自己最糟
艾拉秀上的全方位演出和歌手的身 分，你覺得兩者之間最大的差別是 什麼？其中您覺得面臨到最大的挑 戰是什麼？
的脾氣對待你最親近的人，所以奉勸大家還是 要好好珍惜。
以前當歌手很多事情都是被安排好的，所以 是比較被動的，因為唱片公司會依照專輯的
養育小孩的過程中，應該會遇到很 多千奇百怪自己沒料想到的事，和 讀者分享一下你和勁寶之間發生的 趣事，或令你印象深刻的事情？
走向有他們的企劃與包裝，當然我們三個人 也很特別，發展出自己獨特的性格。 現在我們三個人都各自開公司，以艾拉秀來 說，變成一種很主動式的參與，而我不是說
有一次我們一起看侏儸紀公園最新版本，裡
別人叫你做什麼，就做什麼。是裡面更參雜
面演到火山要爆發了，主角只能帶幾隻恐龍
了我自己的想法和創意。當然以前在唱片公
離開那座島，剩下的恐龍讓他們自生自滅。
司時，唱片公司也會尊重我們的意見，我想
劇情裡有隻沒被選上的腕龍，他無法上船被
起那時候我們有個人的專輯作品，但大部分
留在碼頭的那一幕，我覺得人類怎麼可以這
還是會以唱片公司為主。
麼過份，你復育了他們，又讓他們自生自滅， 讓他們再一次滅亡，人類真的很自私。我邊
挑戰的事是我幾乎要撐住全場，所以我腦袋
看邊大哭，勁寶在旁就說不要哭，然後他做
必須要很清楚，如果少了什麼，後面就會亂
的第一件事情是走去拿衛生紙給我，因為他
掉。去年的第一次表演，我的確就是少了一
每次哭，我做的第一件事也是先拿衛生紙幫
段，可是那也是非常特別的記憶，因為那不
他擦眼淚，他覺得擦眼淚是安慰人的一個方
是彩排過的東西，我還是把他救回來了。有
式，所以我覺得他真的很可愛，不管我跟他
時候臨場的出錯，也會是很特別的插曲，感
之間有什麼不愉快，他永遠還是很愛很愛你，
覺更有趣也更真實。所以我覺得要挑戰的是，
完全不記前嫌。他根本不記得那些不愉快的
整個思慮要很清楚，熟悉每一個細節、每一
事，他只知道他愛你，這就是那種毫無保留，
個歌唱的步驟、每一個走位等等。
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曾經以團體形式出道，你認為在團體 中與一個人的角色定位有何不同？
價值觀的建立，影響你最深的人事物 是什麼？
應該說我們的時空背景不一樣，當時我們都還是
我看到這個題目時，第一個反應是想到我媽媽，
小女孩，可是現在的我已經是人妻、人母，人隨
因為我媽媽是很認份的人，但除了我媽媽之外，
著時間的增長，還有你的經歷，一定會有所改變，
我發現其實我有很多性格跟爸爸很像，我爸是個
那也因為身份上的改變，在定位上面也會不一
阿莎力的人、很乾脆，而且他非常大方，對朋友、
樣，但沒有說一定要怎麼分別，那只是符合當下
對身邊的人，他也是很有氣度的人，但我仔細想
的狀態去做的定位，其實也不需要特意定義當下
想，我生命中遇到的人實在太多了。我就覺得真
的我，因為我就是我，只是很真實的呈現出來。
正影響我人生價值觀的，其實是我人生所經歷的
比如說，我現在是時尚辣媽，或者是家庭 / 工作
一切，我所經歷的每一步，或多或少都對我造成
能夠兼顧的美麗奇女子，並不是我刻意去訂出來
影響，在我的心裡留下痕跡。好比我們三人的那
的，是我跟著原生的樣子、跟著我人生的步調去
段日子，我在他們身上學習到很多東西，然後遇
改變的。當時我在團體裡面的角色，就是很勇敢
見我先生，他影響我也很多，所以你說人生的價
的女孩，是進去唱片公司一開始幫我們做的心理
值觀建立，真的是你慢慢累積起來的，就套一句
測驗，我就是這樣富有勇氣的女孩。所以我可以
李宗盛大哥說的：『每一步都算數，你走過的每
隻身一個人從屏東來到台北，爸爸、媽媽也沒有
一步，一定在你的生命留下痕跡。』
陪著我，就這樣拖著行李搬進了女生宿舍。
在面臨人生最大挫折的時候是怎麼克 服的呢？
怎麼在明星、 妻子 、母親，這三種身 份中調適，找到平衡？ 已經當了快二十年的藝人，發現其實我是個天生
我其實算是蠻幸運的，沒有真的遇過很大的挫
的演員，因為從小很愛現、很愛表演，在學校會
折。但我不知道會不會有人用他客觀的角度來
參加社團，很敢在台上主持，甚至還主持過上一
看，或許會覺得怎麼會遇到這種事情？可是對我
屆學長姐的畢業典禮，我就是一個沒有在怕這
而言，我會覺得老天自有安排，也許他就是要讓
些，然後希望所有的目光都在我身上的那種人，
你遇到這種事情，沒有這個因，就不會有這個果。
覺得當藝人這件事是擅長的事情。
比如說我今天沒有遇到這個事情，我就不會遇到 後面的事情，是息息相關的。雖然你說是挫折，
然後當母親這件事，很多需要學習的地方，我到現
其實也可以用很正面的心態去看待，也許這個挫
在都還在學習，因為勁寶的成長會有不同的階段，
折是你人生的一個轉機。如果你用比較正面的心
他會經歷各式各樣的叛逆期，到時不知道跟他之間
態去面對，就覺得他不是一個很大的挫折，反而
的關係會怎樣，這都是一個很未知的狀態。
覺得是一個禮物。只是此時此刻，你覺得這個禮
當妻子，夫妻之間的婚姻，跟談戀愛是完全兩回
物有一點點太沈重，有點不舒服，當你經歷後再
事，就像你們是伙伴，你們的家像你們的公司。
回頭看，會覺得那時候經歷了這件事情才能夠成
每一個人都有自己不一樣的角色，但是你說，身
就現在的我。
份怎麼去轉換？當藝人的時候，我就全心的投
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入，我好好的享受當藝人的狀態，去做我喜歡
這個肉身去體驗世間的美好，如果你只是一個
的事情－表演，然後回到家，我能做的話，我
靈體，你不會有任何的感覺，你不知道流眼淚
會早上固定八點起床，因為勁寶九點要上學，
是什麼滋味？你不知道被擁抱、被愛是什麼感
所以我會起床送他去學校，可以接送就去做，
覺？所以你一定要愛你的身體。可是我覺得愛
這是我可以去努力的。然後六日我盡量不要排
自己的方式是，你要好好的睡覺，你要愛你的
事情，因為六日就是他的，我會陪她，然後讓
身體，愛你的靈魂，餵養它好的念頭、正向的
他吃喜歡的冰淇淋、看電視、吃小餅乾，有時
想法，比如像我可以練瑜珈沉澱心靈，練身體
候我如果當母親當到太崩潰時，就會請爸爸出
讓自己更健康，可是這樣的愛自己，其實是要
手，因為爸爸跟媽媽在帶小孩的心態完全不一
付出一些代價的，你是要去努力的，而不是說
樣，他比較能夠放手，而且他很有原則、很有
你用花錢任性來享受愛自己，對我，反而更是
愛心、耐心，對他兒子可以全心的投入。在跟
這方面的方法去愛自己。
他相處的過程當中，很幸運的是有一個神隊友 可以幫我忙，有時候減輕一下被孩子糾纏的負
您最近比較關注的議題或事物是什麼？
擔，小孩真的很吵，那時候覺得有爸爸很重要， 有時候真的要留給爸爸幫忙。當妻子的話，因
跟全球暖化有關的議題，像前陣子北京破了一
為我們是夫妻身分又是工作夥伴，很多時候我
個大洞，很深哦！五十幾公尺、一個大圓洞，
會跟他聊工作上的一些東西，最常問他說，你
然後是北極發生爆炸，生物學家說是因為北
需要幫忙嗎？因為我知道他的個性很容易獨自
極的永凍層在融化，所以裡面會有一些氣體釋
承擔壓力，事情要都 ok 了，他才會跟我講，但
放出來，累積的濃度太高就爆炸。永凍層的爆
是我怕他承受太多，有時候他會有想不通的時
炸其實很恐怖，因為全球暖化的關係，永凍層
候，跟我聊聊就會好一點。我覺得我們很幸運，
曾經叫做永凍，是它永遠都是冰凍的狀態，永
我們可以講這些很內心裡面的話，當彼此傾訴
遠不會融化的，可是現在都在融化，裡面可能
的對象，所以這三者之間就是你自己會知道什
會有各式各樣的細菌，或是病毒散發出來，讓
麼時候去拿捏平衡。
我想到“天能”這部電影裡的一句話：“我這 輩子最大的罪過，就是將我的兒子帶來這個我
您時常說人要懂的「愛自己」，但這三 個字說起來簡單，實際執行卻很困難， 能不能分享妳是如何學會愛自己？
已經知道會走向滅絕的世界。”我看了其實很 傷感，會思考下一代該怎麼辦？印象中我國小 時，看天氣預告，最高溫攝氏三十二度，現在 是三十七度，今年又有新聞說明年可能會出現
我覺得有些人的“愛自己”，是在物質上對自
四十度的高溫。那以後的孩子怎麼辦，當然我
己好一點，『你要愛自己啊！』，然後有些人
覺得以後可能有應對的方法，也許可能在建築
可能就去買一個很貴的包包，或者是說讓自己
上做改變 ..... 等，如果人類沒有趕快覺醒的話，
去做一個 SPA，然後去吃一頓很好吃的東西或
真的不趕快做一些改變的話，已經發生的事情
者是偶爾放縱自己吃鹽酥雞配可樂，類似這種。
就發生了，是不可逆的。
身體只有一個，好不容易能夠獲得肉身，你更 應該要好好愛惜自己的身體，才有辦法透過
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近年來大家正視人種、性別平權、動保議題、永續等 等概念，似乎都讓人們重新意識，沒有你們、他們， 只有『我們』這件事，本期雜誌的主題為“我們”， 對此有什麼看法？ 因為這個疫情改變了人類的生活型態，大家回歸到更原始的方式去 思考，轉換一種念頭。現今我們仰賴著科技以獲得更便利的生活。 但我覺得你可以去思考，如何倚賴這些技術讓人類的生活品質更好 外，要屏除商業的考量，而不再只是去想，要利用這些科技製造更 多的利益，應該是要把利益在降低，把人類的利益放在前面，而不 是那種商業利益，但這真的很難，我們只能好好教育我們的下一代， 希望有一天真的變成烏托邦。
Having started her career in popular girl group S.H.E almost twenty years ago, the once
What's the Ella Show about? Was the show affected by the pandemic?
brave and confident girl, now exudes an even more relaxed and mature wisdom. No matter
The Ella Show is about using a more casual
on stage or off stage, her humor combined
and humorous way to share my life experiences
with her energy, influences those around her,
with everyone. Life is hard, so I want to make
to look at life with as much positivity as she does. There’s laughter everywhere she goes. Ella views her life experiences as something to share with everyone. Through the “Ella Show”, she hopes to bring laughter; she wants to bring people together, because she believes that there is power in unity.
Tell us about your song“Goodnight” ? How did the inspiration come about? This is the last song in the “Ella Show”; last December I had a birthday party to celebrate my 38th birthday, and that’s when the idea for the Ella Show came about. I wanted to give the audience a gift at the end of the show, and so I wrote the song “Goodnight”. The song was inspired by my whole pregnancy experience; the lyrics say “thank you for working so hard, thank you for not giving up, and thank you for being here”. Aside from wanting to say thank you to my audience, I wanted to also say thank you to myself. To be here in this world, is not an easy thing. If there is reincarnation, how many times do you have to reincarnate to become a human being? As a human being in this body, we have to accept all the good and the bad that come our way. All of the trials and
people feel happier and more positive about
tribulations, and all of the emotions we face,
the future. No matter how tough life gets, it’s
makes it very hard to be a human being. We
all about how you choose to live it. You can
should thank ourselves, for not giving up, and
choose to be happy each day.
push ourselves to live everyday to its fullest.
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It’s hard to define what the show is, because
more info about the show, so stay tuned!
it’s not just a concert, theater show, or talk show. It’s unique and I hope audiences can be filled with joy when they come and see it.
Has becoming a mother affected you in any way?
It encompasses my attitudes and outlooks on life. It’s everything about me as a person.
Motherhood makes you want to be a better person. You realize that children are always absorbing your every word and every action. Children really are like angels because they have this purity to them. My wish is for my child to be healthy, safe, happy, and kind. Yesterday I was telling him a story, and he had this interesting reaction. He knew that what the princess did in the story was wrong, but he didn’t know how to express his feelings. He looked at me and had this awkward smile. I asked him, do you feel bad for the frog because of the way the princess treated him? Then he started to cry! He felt bad for the frog but used laughter to cover up his sadness. I took the opportunity to educate him, I told him that we must remember to be kind to every living thing around us. He needs to be kind to his mom and dad, to his aunty, to his classmates; after I explained this to him, he told me that he understood. There are so many opportunities to educate our kids and after becoming a mom I realized that our kids also teach us to be a better person. I’ve realized that I’m not the most patient mother and sometimes because of
I’m actually thankful that this pandemic has
frustration the worst sides of me come out.
allowed me to have time to really upgrade the
I’m glad I’ve come to this realization though,
show. It’s a brand new show with different
because if it weren’t for my son, I wouldn’t
content. If you come and see it again, you’ll
realize that these negative emotions or our
notice it’s completely different from before.
tempers can really hurt the ones we love.
Before the end of the year I’ll be releasing
Raising children has its ups and downs; do you have any interesting stories or unexpected discoveries you can share with us?
What do you think is the biggest difference between the all-rounded performance on the Ella Show and your role or identity as a singer? What do you think is the biggest challenge?
One time we were watching the latest Jurassic Park movie, and in one of the scenes, the
When I was a singer, a lot of things were
volcano was about to erupt and the main
planned out for us. We just went along with
characters could only bring a few dinosaurs
the record company’s plans and vision for us.
with them; the rest of the dinosaurs were
Ofcourse, the three of us have very different
left to die. There was one Brachiosaurus
personalities so eventually we developed our
left behind on the pier, and I just thought,
own unique personas. Now we all have our
humans are so cruel and selfish. I started to
own companies, so the Ella Show embodies a
cry because I felt so bad for the dinosaurs,
lot of my own ideas and creativity. Our record
but then my son started to comfort me. He
company before was really respectful of our
went and got some tissues for me, because
ideas as well, I mean we all released our own
everytime he cries, I would do the same and
albums, but we just primarily went along with
get tissues for him. They learn so quickly,
their thoughts and plans.
and their love is so genuine. It wasn’t until I became a mom did I truly understand what
The biggest challenge would have to be,
unconditional love meant.
being able to connect with the audience and control the mood of the show. So my head
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has to be clear, because if I miss a certain
positive way rather than a negative. When you
part of the rundown, then the entire script
look back at a lot of things, you realize that all
would be messed up. Last year I forgot part
of your experiences shape who you are.
of the script, and because we didn’t have any rehearsals, I had to be really spontaneous.
Who or what has affected you the most?
Thankfully it all went well, but the challenge for me now is to really be familiar with every single
The first person I thought of was my mom. But
detail, every song, and every choreography.
my personality is a lot like my dad. My dad is a very generous and straightforward person. I’ve
Is it different being a solo artist versus being in a girl group? How are these positions different?
met a lot of people in my life, but I think what has affected me the most has been everything I’ve experienced in my life and every step I’ve taken. The time I spent with S.H.E and then
When I was in a girl group I was very young,
meeting my husband; he has affected me a lot
so it was a different time back then. Now I’m
as well.
a wife, a mother, and as time passes by you experience different things that change you as a person. But I’m still me; just different
How do you balance your role as a celebrity, wife, and mother?
versions of me that have been shaped by time. We all did this personality test back
I’ve been in the industry for over twenty years.
then, and my persona was this courageous
I’ve realized that I’m a natural actor. Ever
young girl, who came up to Taipei by herself
since I was a kid, I loved to perform. When
from Pingtung without any family to support
I was in school, I was MC for a graduation
her. Now, I’m a fashionista, a hot mom, who
ceremony. I wasn’t scared at all. I enjoy having
juggles work and family with utmost grace.
all the attention on me. Now that I’m a mother,
These aren’t made up personas but genuine
there’s a lot I need to learn. Every stage of
characteristics that I have. So I just have to be
motherhood is different. I’m not sure how my
me. Not anybody else.
relationship with my son is going to grow, and how it’s going to change; it’s like stepping into
How do you face life and all its challenges?
the unknown. As a wife, it’s so different than when you were just dating. The husband and wife relationship is like a partnership, and your
I’ve been really lucky, I haven’t really
house is like your company. Overall, everyone
experienced a lot of hardships. Of course
has different roles to play in life. When I’m
that’s from my point of view. The way I see it
a celebrity, I put in my all, and enjoy being
is, god has his own plans for us. The obstacles
in that status. When I’m home, I do all I can
we come across are meant for us to learn
to be a good mom. I wake up at 8AM and I
and grow as a person. You can see it as a
take my son to school. On the weekends I try
challenge or as a gift; you can view things in a
to spend more time with him; we watch TV,
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we eat ice cream, and cookies. When it gets
32 degrees celsius. Now it’s 37 degrees. This
too frustrating, I get my husband to step in,
year it may even get to 40 degrees. What are
because he is the more relaxed parent. I’m
our kids going to do? We need to make some
very lucky to have a partner who is so helpful.
changes and humans need to wake up or else
My husband tends to put a lot of pressure on
tragedies may happen that are irreversible.
himself, so I make sure to ask him if he needs help or whether or not he’s doing okay.
You talk a lot about“loving yourself”. It seems to be easier said than done? Any tips for our readers? Many people think that loving yourself is about
In recent years,people are now paying attention to gender equality,animal welfare,sustainability,etc.It's about recognizing that“we”are all in this together.It's not about you and me,but rather“US”.What's your take on this subject?
buying yourself material things. Or some people think it’s about going to the spa, or
The pandemic has really changed the way we
going for a lavish meal. To me, we only have
live and interact with one another. We rely
one physical body. We should be taking care
so much on technology to give us a more
of our body so that we can experience the
convenient lifestyle. But I think we should be
goodness of this world. If you’re just a soul,
thinking about technology in another way.
in spiritual form, you don’t have any emotions,
Rather than looking at it with commercial
or you won’t know what it feels like to cry,
interests, we should be using technology to
to hug, or to be loved. So you must love your
benefit humans, to save humanity! But in our
body. To me, to love yourself is to sleep well,
society, it’s very hard to do so. So we must
think positively, and to practice spiritual and
educate the next generation, and hope that
emotional well-being. To love your body comes
one day our world can become an utopia.
at a price because you have to work hard for it. It’s something money can’t buy.
What topics are you interested in lately? Global warming and the melting of ice caps. The arctic is melting like never before and it’s releasing bacteria that has been trapped for millions of years. I recently watched the movie Tenet, and the antagonist Sator said : “My biggest sin was to bring my son into a world I knew was ending”. This made me really sad and made me think about our next generation. When I was a kid, the highest temperature was
-end.
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#ABOOKChallenge 獲選名單與名人評語 這次 #ABOOKChallenge 收到很多好朋友分享的領養毛孩幸福日常 照，謝謝你們用行動支持「領養代替購買」的活動，請點擊進入看看自己 的作品是否入選，也同時看看別人家的萌毛孩，或許有些拍攝角度，以後 可以參考拍看看！
Joyce Wang
老蕭說：好像貓在修冰箱，有點可愛
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鄭佩宜
老蕭說：感覺他每件事都很在乎，很認真
陳姿毓
老蕭說：構圖角度都夠帥
郑莹
老蕭說：有被帥到
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張多利
Fang Chih Chu
SPCA：這種日常蠻有感
SPCA：每天都要笑瞇瞇
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王頌恩 SPCA：走出戶外真健康
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博物館典藏級藝術珠寶
In celebration of CINDY CHAO The Art Jewel’s 15 th Anniversary
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Cindy Chao Text by Mincer
Photo by Joshua Lin
雷射聚焦般專注的 Cindy 如何細微的談談她的「我們」
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ABOOK 這期雜誌在講「我們」，從您之前的一 些訪談之中找到了 Cindy Chao 品牌的 DNA 來 自於家裡兩代長輩的專業特質，三代凝聚成的 「我們」，是否可以跟讀者朋友聊一下？
品牌需要著眼於看到大我，而不是僅止於小我 的成就，這也是 Cindy Chao 品牌精神中最強的 DNA，我們期許自己能裝進更多的人一起在這個 舞台上，實現每個人的經驗與能力，「我們」不 是單位組織的代稱，而是一種精神！
「我們」都在創作作品，我外祖父是用鋼筋、水泥 來創作建築；我父親創作大型的雕塑作品，然後到 我這一代，我把他們各自的專業結合來創作珠寶。 我從小耳濡目染之下的成長過程背景，造就我今天
您外祖父、父親、包括您自己，在不同的世代、 不同的背景之下，哪些價值觀與態度是可以讓 現在的年輕人做為參考借鏡的？
可以用寶石做創作。我們共通的地方是，我們的作 品都是能明確能夠「看」得到的，這個看的到的東西，
我們三代共 有的一項特質是「專注力」，這項特
是不會隨著時間、地點、或是刻意的人為而摧毀，這
質是很值得現在年輕人做為借鏡！很多人口中的
些東西是能夠一直留傳下去的，留傳的過程可能是
Cindy 的專注力，叫做 “Laser Focus” ，我看事情、
兩個、三個世紀或是更長遠的時間。
看細節，就像拿手機一直 zoom in 放大再放大去檢 視！專注之外，還需要能夠「堅持」在專注這件事上。
我的外祖父對我影響非常深，也非常大，他常在講
比方說，要做一件事情，不是今天開始五分鐘、十
說人要證明他曾經存在過的價值，就是透過作品傳
分鐘、一天、三天的堅持，就像打造品牌這十五年來，
遞的文化與藝術思維，這概念無形的深植在我的血
只要我能夠經手，絕對一點都不會馬虎！這很像我
液裡，某種程度而言「我們」具有傳承的意涵， 「我們」
外祖父在畫建築藍圖，那時候沒有電腦，3D 的空間
應該是超越時間軸、空間地域文化，這某種程度呼
構成真的是靠他的手跟腦，一筆一筆畫出來，親眼
應了藝術的概念，因為藝術品是不需要任何言語去
看他畫圖的過程，就是我有記憶以來看過追求最高
解釋，一旦被看見，作品的意念或多或少就會從創
境界的堅持，所以自我要求之下的作品，自然而然
作者傳遞到觀者心裏。所以，外祖父與父親，留在
就會成為經典！
我血液裡最重要的觀念與省思就是： 接著，我父親是更加的完美主義，我也從他身上學
「如果你在看事情、是看更高、更遠的意圖目標
到這個部分。像我們有位同事，他做完一件事，他
(greater purpose)，你在成就的過程，往往會超越你
覺得 ok 了，他就接著去做下一件事。可是我有點不
所求所想。」
同，事情我不會只是做完，我一定要把它做到好，然 後無懈可擊！然後當天回家的路上，我還會回想這
比如說，創立品牌到今天，我沒有把賺錢放在
個東西夠不夠好，需不需要再改！看事情的結果並
第一位，我在想，要怎樣透過我的手，把 Cindy
不是一件事情的做完，而是把一件事情盡了全力做
Chao 打造成世界級的品牌，我要怎樣看的比遠
到好！其實，這就是我們品牌的關鍵特質，造就今天
還要遠！所以現在品牌基本上已經是過去幾個世
的我們。
紀沒有任何華人可以達到的境界！對我而言，
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從您的作品裡面隱約感覺到東方跟西方的碰 撞，也許是直觀的看到東方設計師在做西方的 珠寶設計，但又不是那麼的單純？是否可以說 說，您的作品來自東方的元素是什麼？西方的 元素又是什麼？
夠好，根本不需要一直往上加，反而就會留下來最 極致、跟最純粹的藝術價值！ 現在在珠寶藝術的這塊領域，大家是拿放大鏡在看 Cindy 的下一步，我們已經成為業界很重要的指標， 每次出場就是眾人引領期盼；每次開展，就好像是
東方的珠寶設計師，大多喜歡做一些龍、鳳的中國
在放煙火。大家在看我們要用什麼超越上次的我
圖騰，可是在我的創作裡面完全沒有這麼具象的符
們！所以我們必須更要求自己，我們的敵人不是外
號，我覺得東方的東西往往不是具體的，是那個態
面的人，都是自己！
度，就像回到今天的第一個問題，一直在講的態度、 精神這些東西。而，西方人在做珠寶設計工藝已經
若要問我一到十分，我會為自己打幾分？我會說，
是幾個世紀，這領域也都是西方人的天下，他們的
現在走到四分而已，就算很多人以為我已經走到九
製工技術確實是超前、而且相當穩定的；相對地，東
分了！對我們來說，剩下那六分，真的想像力會很大
方文化的特質是著眼於細膩之處，我們看東西會很
很大！
細膩、這是我們東方文化的養成、我們的背景，東方 不一樣。
假如有一段工作空檔的時間，可以完全屬於您 自己，您會想做什麼？
我確實是結合了兩者：用西方的先進技術、工藝，融
如果今天讓我有三個月什麼事都不用做了，會是
入我們東方的傳統美德。很多人看我的作品、尤其
對我很大折磨，睡醒了又不能動腦，就覺得很痛
是大師系列，會說好像在賞析一首詩。確實這系列
苦。不過，我還蠻懷念，在全球疫情爆發之前，
作品之中，有些特色是東西文化衝擊出來的結果：
每年有兩、三週的時間可以去海邊，或者是加拿
你看得見作品中有種東方優雅的美學，像是詩詞、
大的國家公園。我記得有一次登山的經驗，一天
山水、陶瓷的作品放在你面前，你只能意會卻講不
當中爬兩千呎，在那一段路上經歷春夏秋冬，很
出來是什麼的美感，很含蓄的！另一方面，我們用西
難忘！同時這次疫情的關係，也體悟到人生是需
方人最厲害的工藝技術，來灌鑄詩詞意境在作品裡
有時候是需要稍微停下來、沉澱一下，接觸大自
頭！所以我覺得東方西方，是意境跟工藝上的撞擊，
然好好讓自己跟自己說說話。
人的客氣內斂、優雅從容，感覺上是跟西方有一點
同時呈現在我們的作品的內在與外在！
所有創作人都想要把自己的作品達到國際水 準，除了專注與堅持之外，還有什麼因素，您認 為也很重要？
我現在處於一個很好的年紀，有一定的人生經歷與 歷練、想法上對很多東西的看法，是有一定成熟度 的。像我早期年輕的時候，我有想法或許技術跟不 上，而現在能夠把想法與具體的技術做更好的串連。 以前早期創作是加法，現在是減法，現在是因為你
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You've mentioned in the past that three generations of artists run in your family and that the Cindy Chao DNA extends from this. Tell us about that?
look at the big picture of things. The soul and
My grandfather was an architect, my father
What values or attitudes do you wish to pass on to the younger generation?
was a sculptor; art is ingrained in my family.
spirit of Cindy Chao is to bring more and more people on to the world stage, and empower more people to see their own potential.
For me, I combine their techniques into jewelry, and I use gems to do so. What we have in
My entire family embodies a unique trait, which
common though, is that our work is tangible,
is “concentration and focus”. A lot of people
it can be seen. It withstands time and space,
call it having a “laser focus” because when I
and cannot be easily destroyed. Our work can
look at things I focus on the details. It’s like
be passed down through generations and even
putting everything on zoom. Aside from having
centuries, or even longer.
focus, it’s also important to have persistence. When my grandfather drew his architectural
My grandfather’s impact on me has been
blueprints, there were no computers; a 3D
tremendous. He used to say that humans need
space had to be drawn stroke by stroke with
to prove the value of their existence, and the
his hands. His mind was like a computer, and
way to do so is through cultural and artistic
watching him draw was like witnessing the
creation. His approach has really made an
pursuit of persistence to the highest standard.
impact on me; it’s in my blood. It’s about the continuation of art that transcends time and
My father was even more of a perfectionist,
space. Art need not be explained through any
and it was through him that I inherited this
language, because when it is observed, the
trait. When I do something I don’t just finish
message is more or less passed on to the
it, I need to perfect it! Oftentimes on my way
viewer.
home from work, I’m still thinking about what I did that day and whether it was the best that
My grandfather and my father left me with one
I could do. In fact, this is the key attitude of
important belief, and that is “if you do things
our brand, which has given way to who we are
with a greater purpose in mind, you’ll find
today.
that the outcome almost always exceeds your expectations”. For example, when I started the Cindy Chao
From your work, we sense a collision of Eastern and Western elements. What's your thoughts on that?
brand, making money was never on the top of my priority list. I was more focused on finding
Asian jewelry designers like to use traditional
ways to create an international brand that
Chinese symbols such as the dragon and
could make Asia proud. For me, it’s important
phoenix. On the contrary, I don’t use that in my
to look further than most people would, and
design because I feel that Asian design isn’t
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any specific element, but rather it’s an attitude.
magnifying glass. We’ve become this industry
Western designers have been creating jewelry
indicator for success. Everyone expects us
for centuries, and they have perfected this
to outdo ourselves with each new exhibit or
field. Their manufacturing technology is indeed
each new collection, so we must ask more of
advanced and stable; relatively, the essence of
ourselves. Your biggest enemy is yourself, not
Eastern culture focuses on the subtleties. We
people out there! So if you ask me, out of ten
see things very delicately. This is the cultivation
how would I rate myself, I’d say four. That’s
of our Eastern culture and our background.
because when people already view you as a
Asian people’s polite, restrained, elegant and
nine, you must work even harder to match up.
calm identity are a bit different from the West.
The possibilities would then be endless.
My work combines the techniques of the West
What do you like to do when you get time off?
while incorporating the traditional virtues of the East. Many people deem my work as poetry; indeed it has the Asian elegance and humble
If I had three months to do nothing, I think
demeanour to it. I see my work as embodying
it’d be torture. It’s like you’re awake but can’t
both Western and Asian principles; it’s the
do anything. Though I do miss being able to
collision between artistic conception and
travel, and to be able to go to the beach or go
craftsmanship, which is simultaneously present
to Canada and be with nature. The pandemic
in my work.
has really made us realize that sometimes you need to really slow down, get in touch with
Most designers want to obtain international recognition for their work. Apart from focus and persistence, what other factors do you think are important in doing so? Right now I am at a very good stage in my life where I have certain life experiences and a certain degree of maturity. When I was younger, my ideas couldn’t match up to my technique. But now, I can connect ideas to technique much better. Back then it was about adding more and more to my work, but now it’s about diminishing the excess. It’s about preserving or keeping the best, and most pure artistic value. Everyone seems to look at me with a
nature, and get in touch with yourself.
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Joshua Lin’s Photography Photography / Joshua Lin Creative Stylist / Monfi Lin Makeup / Eddi Hsu Hair / Alllen Sanki( 黑鵝摩莎） Makeup Assistant / Melody Chan Models / 陳薇 Jane Fang 吳培基 簡宗福 孫秉森 苑香君 侯宥瑩
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「我們」，詞意上，是種限縮。 也是種歸納，歸納每個人認為的「我們」。 通常不太留意的，是「我們」的時態。 我們，大多是橫向個體的現在式。 我們，鮮少是縱向過去未來的連貫完成體。 如果有件事， 是我們想告訴我們的事 時間是客觀量化的，笑容是主觀客製化的！
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“Us”, seems constricted in meaning Yet everyone has their own interpretation When we talk about us, we seem to talk about the present Like time moving horizontally Rarely do we look at it as a combination of the past and the future If there’s one thing to think about It’s something we want to tell us all While time is objectively quantified Smiles are subjectively customized
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We Come From a Foreign Land Text by Tonnie
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台灣這座美麗的島嶼，除了原住民之外，先後容納了許多移民，不管是 渡海來開墾，或因戰爭而來，其實大家都是移民的後代，自政府開放外 籍移工來台工作，這三十年間也逐見形成了台灣的移工文化，身處多元 環境的我們，卻對其文化不甚了解。 這次 ABOOK 小編們趁著某個週日，來到台北車站與附近街道，正好在 舉行印尼的慶典活動，氣氛特別熱鬧與歡樂，參與其中可以更貼近彼此， 近而捕捉他們的日常。
Interview Band:Anarky Gambazz・Rizky・Bima・Uky・Yogi Abdurohman 25 歲 印尼
Wulan Suuyani 21 歲 印尼 Alyian 21 歲 印尼
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Our beautiful island of Taiwan has welcomed many immigrants and migrant workers with open arms. Many came to escape the war,and many came looking for a better life. In fact,if you think about it,we are all descendants of immigrants in one way or another. 30 years ago, our government opened our doors to foreign workers,and Taiwan's migrant culture has since then been uniquely formed. What do you know about their interesting culture? For this issue ABOOK takes you to Taipei Main Station to capture the celebration of a lively Indonesian festival. We invite you to get involved,to be curious of different cultures,because an openness and acceptance of all those around us, gives us strength,and makes us all closer together.
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Interview 倪暖沐 19 歲 印尼
Vhel diaz 菲律賓 Recelyn Conjelado 菲律賓
Yudha 29 歲
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用虛擬身份存在的我們 Existing as a virtual identity
RaeAnna
田心蕾 RaeAnna，也許大家對她不那麼熟悉，但是她創造的繪 本娃娃「累累」，絕對在書店曾引起你的目光注意，因為「累累」 這娃娃，白皮膚長髮大眼女孩，跟在韓劇『雖然是神經病但沒關 係』裡象徵女主角的那個娃娃有些神似，同樣的有些傷痕、有些 心累！只不過心蕾創造「累累」早在四年前就已經出版了，並且大 受市場歡迎。只能說，韓劇出現的有些巧合？ 田心蕾 RaeAnna，這名字帶著浪漫的粉紅光圈，但是她的哈佛 碩士學歷卻是紮實空降在藝人學歷榜的榜首。多才多藝的她，不 只是唱歌、作曲、舞蹈、寫作、繪畫、甚至是手工藝等多方位創作 能力，也是圈內少見才貌雙全的歌手。
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累累是田心蕾？還是田心蕾是累累？ 一個真實、一個虛擬，兩個都存在在 世界上的主角，不分彼此，互相傾訴， 所以她們會稱呼她們是「我們」！ 因為喜歡你， 所以喜歡這個世界，這個時間。 因為喜歡你， 喜歡去回憶，任何有關於你的事情。 因為喜歡你， 所以喜歡自己，與我們的相遇。 田心蕾（累累）
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You might not be familiar with RaeAnna, but her illustration books definitely catch your attention in bookstores. RaeAnna is famous for her character “LeiLei” who is a fair-skinned girl with big eyes and long hair. “LeiLei” was first published four years ago, and is beloved by fans from all over.
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RaeAnna has a Master’s Degree from Harvard and is multi-talented;she can sing,compose,dance, write,draw,and she even does arts and crafts. Many people compare her to her character LeiLei, however one is real and one is fictional. What’s undeniable though,is that they both exist;To RaeAnne, “It’s not you or me,but us!”
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PHOTOGRAPHY / KUAN CREATIVE DIRECTOR / Pulu pulu Hsu STYLIST / Pulu pulu Hsu MAKEUP / Eddi Hsu HAIR / Odye Weng MODEL / Jolie Chang / Orna SPECIAL THANKS / 團團國際時尚 TUANTUAN FASHION
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我們 在緊密相連沒有隱私的時代 爆炸的一切影響著情緒 混亂中我們互相堆疊互相影響著 儘管我跟你不同 但我想要和你在一起 我和你 就是我們
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In an era without privacy. So much that happens can effect our emotions. In a state of chaos,everything effects everything. Whether we are alike or not. I want to be with you Me and you are Us
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Value Color Character Photographer : Cindy Makeup Artist & Hair Stylist : Lawrence Fan Model : Dorsa Bakhtiarnia / Katrina Schmidt / Simon Gu / Harris Martin / Dave Patnaik / Amy Yu
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黑跟白為明度 顏色代表色相 明度跟色相則交織成色調 生命是張白紙 顏色賦予了其意義 知覺、感覺、記憶 皆因色彩而豐富 沒有人是一座孤島 群體的異色 成就了 我們。 光 Black and white create value Color describes its hue Hue and value demonstrate the tone Life is like a white paper Until we colored it with meanings Perceptions, feelings and memories are enriched by colors No man is an island A mixture of colors create us
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童真的眼裡沒有膚色，大家都一樣
Innocence Sees No Color, Everyone's the Same
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法比歐，從模特兒、節目主持到演員，是位全方位發
從很小的時候會和家人一起旅行，我五歲時，我們
展的藝人，全身散發魅力的他，卻說這一切得來不
家搬到了加勒比海，因為那時家裡經濟不寬裕，所
易，是他一點一滴努力而來的。今年是他來台灣的
以他們讓我體驗了很多不同的旅行方式，我和父母
第九年，一路上累積了眾多熱愛他的粉絲，卻不失
會很簡單的去戶外野餐，也會因為去找親戚而住些
他親民的性格，親自經營社群，也認真的和粉絲分
比較高級的地方，很多方式我都體驗過，所以我不
享對於不同議題的觀點，他說成為公眾人物的目的，
會覺得去到偏僻的地方會不舒服，我認為如果去到
是要發揮自己的影響力，傳播更多的愛與正向訊息，
很遠的地方，但一直待在飯店裡就會很可惜，這樣
才有意義。
根本體驗不到當地的文化。
在台灣生活了九年 , 覺得台灣令你印象深刻的 地方？
在台灣有嘗試背包客旅行嗎？
台灣是個熱情活潑的地方，而且相對安全。 這裡的大自然真的太美了，不管去海邊或者山上， 這些地方都不像國外的風景區 這麼觀光，比較原始，有種遠離都市很自由的感覺， 所以不管去台東、 南投 、花蓮 ，喜歡在沒有什麼 人的地方，享受大自然的力量。
您最喜歡什麼樣的旅行方式？ 看我的狀態和想體會怎樣的感覺，我可以是很冒險 的背包客旅行，不訂任何飯店，去認識一些當地人， 跟他們一起生活，體驗當地的文化。如果在忙碌的 生活中想來一些小旅行，我會想要比較舒服的，可 能是訂個我覺得舒適有設計感的飯店、認真規劃每 一天的行程，如果你只有一個禮拜的時間，沒有安 排與規劃，會浪費很多的時間。
沒有，但我最近買了一台露營車，希望把自己的東西 放在車上，沒有真的規劃目的地，就是隨便開，看哪 裡舒服，就在那停留個一兩天。台灣很適合這樣的 旅行方式，不像歐洲有太多規定，不能隨便停，你必 須在指定的露營區裡買票過夜，身邊很多人，在台灣 我可能開著車停在武陵農場，或是花蓮的海邊，很 自由。
在忙碌的工作與生活間如何取得平衡？ 如果你要成功的話，要注意四個東西：家庭，工作， 健康，朋友。要在其中取得平衡，但這很難。有人會 說，如果你想在工作上有所成就，可能要放棄某一 方，譬如工作太忙，沒時間與家人或另一半相處。有 時候我自己太注意健康的生活，所以會花比較多的 時間在買菜做飯和健身、不想和朋友去餐廳吃些太 油膩的東西，這都會影響我和朋友的關係，所以一 定要找出自己的平衡。
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心中美好的一天會是怎樣？
角色，在電視節目上，除了肢體語言外，還需要與其
大概是關掉手機，和我的另一半一起去戶外，或是
他人互動，做些效果，訓練自己的反應，而演員則
一起做飯，享受大自然，一起放空、談我們的未來，
是這兩者再加上表演，對我來說每個工作都很特別，
那會很美好。現在大家因為工作忙碌，很容易忘記
都是新的體驗。
活在當下，很多人和身邊的人一起出去吃飯，大家卻 各自玩手機，或者傳訊息給其他人。你根本不了解
去年拍攝了斯卡羅，是一部很有影響力的台灣歷史
旁邊的人，沒把握和身旁的人相處的時光。所以我
劇，非常開心可以加入這個拍攝，拍攝通常在山上，
也期許自己，晚上九點後不看手機，把時間留給自
突發狀況很多，可能開車上去兩個小時，但天氣不
己與身邊的人。
好，所以需要長時間等待，但我們一定不是最辛苦 的，當時拍攝有一百多個工作人員，如美術組，做了
從模特兒、節目主持人到演電影，有遇到什麼令 你印象深刻的事嗎？
好久的道具，因當天的氣候就不能拍，大家都有很 多要克服的地方。
這三種身份都是我從小的夢想，我一一實現了，每 個工作都有很辛苦的地方，每一步都很努力，像當 模特兒時，我的身高不到一百八，所以不是很簡單， 必須要讓人留下深刻的印象，不像一般模特兒很高， 但我有自己的特色。在主持上，一開始上節目時，中 文不太好，我沒辦法表達我想說的，或分享我的想 法，那時候也是很努力，並且在很短的時間內學習 中文，才開始被大眾接受。其實來台灣之前，我是讀 國際貿易，後來回法國半年，上了表演課後，沒想到 我會留在台灣生活及發展。當演員的身份，讓我可 以和其他演員學習，畢竟我沒什麼表演背景，得自 己努力地獲取經驗。 每個經驗都使我在演藝生涯上成長，模特兒的訓
你曾經大方與觀眾們提過媽媽的狀況，你覺得 該怎麼面對有憂鬱症的身邊親友或是想對處 於低潮的人說些什麼？ 我自己也蠻好奇的，在拍出這支影片後，很多人開 始聯絡我，他們知道自己不開心，但應該不是憂鬱 症，他們認為自己沒這麼嚴重到生病，儘管人已經 處在崩潰的邊緣，他們仍努力維持一般生活運作， 也因此周遭親友們很難察覺出來，容易被忽略。其 實只要感到嗜睡或失眠、執行力變低、思考與專注 力下降、動作遲緩，容易自責，這些症狀持續兩週 以上，就要小心可能生病了。
練，讓我在鏡頭前很自在，不同的拍攝，詮釋不同的
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失去方向，腦裡不斷地重複思考，想著一樣的問題，
近年來大家正視人種、性別平權、動保議題、永 續等等概念，似乎都讓人們重新意識，沒有你 們、他們，只有『我們』這件事，本期雜誌的主 題為“我們” ，對此有什麼看法？
卻找不到答案，所以很重要的一件事是，你一定要
從很小的時候我就知道，不管皮膚的顏色或是你的
說出來，找親近的人分享：“最近的不舒服、最近我
性向，你就是“人” ，大家都一樣，我的家庭也沒有信
覺得自己不夠好” ，身邊的人能從不同的角度來看
奉的宗教，一切讓我自己探索。在求學階段，我們家
你的狀況。很多人會排斥傾訴，因為他們認為說出
搬到了加勒比海，那裡的人幾乎都是黑人，只有我
來表示自己懦弱、不夠堅強，可是這不是懦弱。你要
是白人，而且在幾百年前曾被西方文明殖民過，所
先了解自己的狀況，然後勇敢分享出來，該看醫生
以他們對白人有種族歧視，我常被同學欺負，小時
就得去。很多時候是我們不夠了解自己，我很幸運
候的我很難理解為什麼他們要欺負我，我就只是
和家人間的溝通很直接自然、很有愛，但有些朋友
一個人、一個小孩子，膚色對我來說沒有差別。我
跟我說他們很難跟家人溝通，一回家只能表現出什
曾聽過摩根弗里曼說：『要終止種族主義的唯一途
麼都很美好的樣子。你要把你的沒安全感，工作的
徑，就是停止談論它。我不叫你白人，你也別稱我為
不順利，與另一半的問題傾訴出來，對自己會是種
黑人。』但問題是現在太多社會議題，像在美國，警
幫助與支持。
察對黑人的態度很不好，或是在法國，白人比黑人
憂鬱症有很多不同的原因，像我媽媽可能是年紀大 的生理因素，還有心裡孤單。而我自己之前也有這 個狀況，突然沒了工作，同時忘了我的目標是什麼，
有更多的工作機會，這種種族議題雖然比五十年前
離鄉背井最大的挑戰是什麼？有沒有想對其他 一樣離開家鄉的人說的話？
進步很多，但還是太慢了，因為我們是人類，不管你
我很幸運我的父母一直鼓勵我到國外發展，即使在
生命。
來自哪裡，你愛的人是誰，都沒有錯，要活出自己的
來台灣前，父親得了兩個癌症，生病的很嚴重，他 還是一直支持我出國，他認為我應該多看看這個世
像在台灣，我有些朋友他們是外國人面孔，可是他
界，旅行是最好的教育，學習不同的國情與文化，也
們是台灣人，卻常被誤會，對我來說這也是種族主
可以更了解自己。所以你要相信自己，給自己一個目
義，你還沒認識一個人就從他的外表下定論，但這
標，就有動力向前走，雖然一開始會很困難，當然也
些想法的改變需要一些時間。
別忘了家人，找時間互相打電話。我也會想到我的 姪女們，小孩的成長很快，一下子就錯過了、會想到
有體驗過『我們台灣人』的 moment?
我的外公外婆現在八十幾歲了，外婆有阿茲海默症，
其實我的生活方式有時候會很台灣，像是講話的語
我打給她時她會問我同樣的問題，每一次回法國，
氣，會出現『喔～～～』『咦～～』的狀聲詞、騎著
都會看到家人的變化，這很令人失落，但這就是人
摩托車到處跑、吃路邊的小吃，我非常喜歡台灣的
生，你需要為自己生活，為了你的目標，還有自己後
甜點，像是一些糕點、仙草、豆花、紅豆湯或芋圓，
來組的家庭努力，不要忘記自己的根，可是是時候
在法國沒有仙草或是 QQ 的食物，紅豆也不會吃甜
該自己長大了。
的，來到這裡後很喜歡。還有手機隨手放在桌上， 在這邊很平常，可是在歐洲絕對不會有這樣的行為， 因為貴重物品馬上就不見了。
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Fabio is a model,tv show host,and actor. He is
we would stay in fancier hotels when we would
full of charisma,but success didn't come easy. This
visit relatives. I don’t usually feel out of place
will be his 9th year in Taiwan,and along the way
in unfamiliar situations, I believe that when you
he has gained popularity and a fan base,yet he
travel you need to experience the local culture
remains down to earth,maintaining his own social
instead of staying in the hotel all the time.
media accounts and interacting with his fans. To Fabio,it's important to spread love and positivity
Have you tried backpacking in Taiwan?
as a public figure.
I have not, but I recenlty bought an RV. I would like to pack up all my belongings and head out
After living here for 9 years,what do you find is the most fascinating about Taiwan?
on the road without a particular destination and
Taiwan is a place full of passion and is relatively
very suitable for this type of travel because unlike
safe. The natural beauty here is incredible,no
Europe, you can park anywhere here. Perhaps I will
matter if you go to the beach or to the mountains,
drive and stop at Wuling Farm or by the beach in
the scenery you see is very authentic and feels
Hualian.
very wild and free. Whether it's Taidong,Nantou, or
How do you balance life and work?
Hualian, I like to go where there's not many people
If you want to succeed, you must pay attention
around in order to enjoy the power of nature.
to four things: family, work, health, and friends.
stop a day or two wherever I feel like. Taiwan is
To acquire a balance between the four is quite
Where do you like to go on vacation?
challenging. Some people say if you want to have a
It depends on how I feel. I can be a very
successful career you may have to give up on a lot
a d ventu ro us backpacke r and not book any
of things, as you may not have much time to spend
accommodations so that I can go live with the
with your loved ones. Also because I am very
locals to experience the culture firsthand. If I’m
health conscious, I spend a lot of time cooking my
busy and I need a quick break, usually I like to
own meals and exercising, which means that I tend
book something comfortable like a nice, designer
not to eat out with my friends, which does affect
hotel. I’ll then plan my itinerary fully because if I
my social life. However, you just need to find a
only have a week it’ll be a waste if I don’t plan
balance that is right for you.
out my daily activities.
What would be your ideal day? I used to travel with my family as a kid and when
Probably to turn off my phone, spend time with
I was 5 years old we moved to the Caribbean.
my other half outdoors or cook a meal together
My family lived humbly back then so we took
and enjoy nature. To be able to just relax and talk
many forms of vacations. We would sometimes
about our future would be quite nice. Everyone
go for simple outdoors picnic and other times
is so busy everyday that it’s easy to forget to
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live in the moment. Even when we do go out
about a part of Taiwan’s history. I’m very happy
with friends, usually a lot of people are on their
to be a part of this film. Shooting happened
phones or texting. You don’t even really get to
mostly in the mountains and there were a lot of
know the person beside you or cherish the time
unexpected circumstances. Sometimes we would
spent together. Therefore, I tell myself to shut off
spend 2 hours driving up the mountains only to be
my phone after 9pm so that I can spend time for
met with bad weather so we would then spend a
myself or for those around me.
long period of time just waiting. There were over 100 staff including set decorators, so we all had
From being a model to a tv personality to a movie actor, have there been some memorable moments? These were all dreams of mine as a kid and each comes with it’s own challenges. I’ve worked hard every step of the way. As a model it was difficult because I am just below 180cm tall so I had to stand out and develop my own unique
to overcome a lot of obstacles.
You talked about your mother’ s illness publicly; how do you think people should support family members or friends who suffer from mental illness? Or is there anything you’ d like to say to people who may feel they are at rock bottom?
character and style. As a show host, at first due
I think about this as well. After releasing the video
to my limited Chinese, I could not really express
many people messaged me telling me that they are
fully what I wanted to say or share my thoughts.
unhappy but not suffering from depression. They
I worked hard to learn Chinese in a very short
downplay their situation even though many may
amount of time and that was when I started to be
be at their breaking point. Many go about their
accepted by more viewers.
daily lives as if nothing’s bothering them so it is
Before coming to Taiwan I studied International
hard for those around them to notice. If you feel
Trade and then returned to France for half a year
lethargic or suffer from insomnia, find it hard to
to study performance art. I never thought I would
concentrate, sluggish, tend to self-blame and these
live and work in Taiwan. As an actor I try to learn
symptoms last for more than 2 weeks, then you
as much as I can from other actors and gain more
should seek the opinions of a professional.
experience. Being a former model has taught me to be comfortable in front of the camera and portray
Depression can be triggered by many factors. My
different characters. On TV I’ve learned to interact
mother’s depression may have been brought on by
with others and to think quickly on my feet. To me,
age and the feeling of loneliness. I used to be in
an actor requires the skills of both a model and
a similar state when I lost my job and my purpose
a tv personality. Each role to me is special and a
and direction in life. I would keep thinking about
new experience.
the same problems but I didn’t have the answers, so the most important thing is to talk to people
I filmed the movie Seqalu last year, which talks
you trust as they may be able to shed light from
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another perspective. A lot of people find it hard
suffered from dementia. Each time going back to
to talk openly because they believe it makes them
France I would see changes in my family which
look weak but really it isn’t so. You need to face
is quite sad. However, this is a part of life and
your situation honestly and seek help when you
you still need to make a life for yourself and work
need it. I am lucky that I have a strong support
towards your goals, but it doesn’t mean you have
system at home where we can talk openly and
to forget your roots. Though my father’s condition
honestly, which is not the case for many of my
was quite serious, he still encouraged me to travel
friends. However, you still have to try, which can
and see the world as it is the best way to learn. To
really help.
experience different cultures allows you to learn more about yourself as well. You need to believe
What’s the hardest part about leaving home to a foreign country? Do you have anything to say to expats?
in yourself and set goals so that you will be
I’m lucky that my parents encouraged me to
nieces a lot as they are growing up very fast. I also
work abroad. Before coming to Taiwan my father
think about my grandparents, who are now in their
developed 2 forms of cancer and my grandmother
80s.
motivated. It will be hard at first so don’t forget to keep in touch with your family. I think about my
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More and more, our society is beginning to value human rights, gender equality, animal rights, and sustainable development, as if people are realizing that there is no Them vs Us. What do you think about this issue’s theme?
or who you love. There’s no right or wrong so live
When I was young, I knew that no matter your race
To me this is racism as well, these all need to
or sexual orientation, everyone's the same, we are
change.
as you want. In Taiwan, I have friends who look like a ‘foreigner’but in fact they are Taiwanese and often people will judge a person on how they look.
all human beings. My family was not religious we were the only Caucasians and I was bullied due
Have you experienced a [We are Taiwanese] moment?
to my race, as the area was colonized by western
Actually I’ve become very‘Taiwanese’, like when
civilization hundreds of years ago. Morgan Freeman
I talk I now use common filler words [Oh~~~] or
once said [To stop racism is to stop talking about
[Yi~~]. I ride a scooter everywhere, eat street food;
it. I won’t call you White and you won’t call me
I enjoy Taiwanese desserts like cakes, grass jelly,
Black]. The problem now is that there are still
tofu pudding, red bean soup, and taro balls, which
many social issues that need to be solved, for
are not common in France. I’m also comfortable
example in the US, the police treat black people
leaving my cell phone on the table in public,
differently, or in France, White people will find
which is impossible in Europe as your phone will
jobs much easier than Black people. Though we’ve
be stolen straight away.
either. Though when we moved to the Carribbeans,
come a long way, progress is still too slow, we’re all human beings no matter where you come from
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Ocean Home . Art Market
Text by Tonnie
Photo by 瘋市集 泡泡 提供
ABOOK’s Picks
海或．瘋市集
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台灣最『原生種』的市集，是由一群熱愛生命與自然的藝數家發起，他們關注環 境保護與萬物合一，以互助利他為核心，建起了一個無框架的生活實踐基地，市 集宛如一個巨大的實驗場，讓來此交會的人，彼此共振，不帶評價與斷論，全然 開放，隨心所欲，讓最原始的你在此與之起舞。 這聚落每年都在七月而生，至今年已邁入第十年，但因今年疫情的影響，延長至 九月十七日開始，為期一週，希望在所有參與者的堆疊下，能再激起浪花，管你 屬於哪個群體，都能歸屬山海，擁抱彼此。
海或 瘋市集的起源？ 瘋市集
為 2000 年左右嘉義蘭潭藝術跳蚤市場的延伸，10
年前在花蓮“海或 手作民宿”開始，從一開始想群聚有相同價值觀的藝術創作朋 友們的聚會， 延伸成無償提供藝術工作者的平台，存在至今，已成為一種文化的象徵，代表著 「交流、自由、尊重、跨越一切藩籬並且回歸自然」。 主辦數年交接一次，在任內與參與市集的眾人討論下，決定承接人選，讓市集不 受限於既定的模式，因此增加市集的多元與可能性，保留了用“心”生活的初衷， 也讓每一年的樣子都在流動與進化。
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起初在辦這些活動時覺得最困難的部分是什麼？ 因瘋市集的主辦團隊數年會輪替一次，在每位新的主辦上任時會有一個磨合期，新的思維進 入了團隊、市集長久累積下來的規則都必須相互磨合，需要一點時間和耐心。
海或主張的「綠能、環保、減塑」如何執行呢？ 1. 瘋市集有個規定，所有販售食物的攤位，都不能使用免洗餐具， 並鼓勵遊客自備餐具或者可以就地取材，使用香蕉、月桃、蒲葵等葉子。
2. 建造場地時盡量避免購買新的建材，所以我們會花上很多的時間在收集廢料。 3. 在辦活動的開始前與結束後，我們使用的場地除了草變短以外， 其他的地方都不會改變， 沒有人為的垃圾與破壞。
4. 提供給志工的每日餐食，會與有機農場及花蓮當地菜販配合，收集賣相不好或產量過剩的 蔬果來烹飪，我們也不主動購買肉品， 但也不會浪費，若有人捐贈食材，我們都會食用。
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這裡集結了來自世界各地的人，可以分享一下聽過最難忘的故事嗎？ 很多事情都很難忘，市集對我來說像是一面鏡子，每位來此地的人都有很多檢視自己 的機會，放掉平時在都市繁忙的腳步，用心體會生活，感受自然，在離開時盡力調整 好自己的狀態後，回到原本的日常，並把海和山給你的能量帶回去。
舉辦了九年的瘋市集，從剛開始十幾個攤位到現在三四百攤位的規模，僅收營業額 的 10% 作為場地維護，舉辦這些活動主要想傳達些什麼呢？ 起初只想提供一個平台，可以讓藝術工作者自由地揮灑，所以攤位的 10％營業額也是 均分給參與的表演者，當然前來的人也會向海或的酒水攤位購買啤酒，補貼一下工作 團隊這個月的支出。 我想這是一種互助與善的循環，久而久之形成了一個群體，一種文化，而瘋市集就像 是個彼此能互相交流的短暫聚落。
你們期待的未來世界會是什麼樣子？ 不太會想這個問題，也許我明天就死了也不一定。
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The most "native" market in Taiwan was founded by a group of artists who love life and nature. They are concerned about environmental protection and the unity of all beings and things. With altruism as the founding basis, they have created a space that sets no boundaries. Like a social experiment, the market allows people who come here to resonate with each other, without ridicule or prejudice, hoping to create a place that inspires your most innerself. The event happens in July of each year and this year is its tenth anniversary, however, due to the pandemic, the event has been pushed back to September 17th and will last for a week. The hope is that all participants will inspire and embrace each other’s own uniqueness and form of expression.
What is the founding history of Ocean Home. Art Market? Ocean Home. Art Market was founded in 2000 as an extention of the art-fleamarket in Jiayi. The event began 10 years ago in Hualian at the Ocean Home BNB, and was created by like-minded artists as a social-gathering opportunity and has now turned into a platform that connects artists in different fields. The event symbolizes different cultures and represents the importance of [ communication, freedom, respect, and a return to nature]. The main organizer changes every few years so that the market will not be limited to an established model. This increases diversity and creates different possibilities and opportunities, which is the heart of the event.
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At first, what was the most difficult in establishing the event? Because the main organizer changes every few years, there is always an adjustment period as each new hosts bring in new ideas and ways of planning, yet certain policies must be followed. This requires some time and patience in order for things to run smoothly during the transition.
The market stresses the importance of [green energy, environmentalism, plastic-free]. How is this enforced? 1.We have a policy that all vendors must not use disposable utensils and we encourage visitors to bring their own or use what they can find naturally at the venue, such as banana leaves, galangals, or fan palm leaves.
2.During set-up, vendors should avoid buying new materials, so we spend a lot of time on gathering scrap materials for reuse.
3.Before and after the event, the grass on the ground is cut shorter, but other than that, nothing about the space changes, there is no man-made destruction or garbage.
4.The food we provide our volunteers with come from local organic farmers, using ‘ugly’ or surplus fruits and vegetables. We also don’t buy meat, however, if someone donates something, we will use it so it does not go to waste.
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Many people from around the world come to this event, can you share a memorable story? There are many memorable experiences. The market to me is like a mirror, as every visitor is a chance for me to reflect on myself. The event allows me to forget the hustle and bustle of city life and really take time to experience what it means to be alive and enjoy nature. When I leave, I also adjust myself so that I can go back to everyday life, bringing with me the energy that nature has given me.
In the past 9 years, you’ve grown from just over 10 vendors to now 300-400, yet you still only take 10% as a maintenace fee, why is that? At first we just wanted to create a platform for artists to come create freely, so the 10% we received was always equally distributed to the performers at the event. Visitors also buy drinks and alcohol from our stand which helps to cover some of our costs. I think by creating a cycle and atmosphere of sharing, we’ve all become one, which is what makes the market interactive.
What do you hope the future will look like? I don’t really think about this, I may die tomorrow, you never know. -end.
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Marine Debris
Photographer / Ash
由於人口的快速擴張，既有的天然資源被無止盡的消耗，而在這貪 婪的同時我們卻製造了更多無法回溯的垃圾，海洋廢棄物往往是最 煞風景的存在，我們著手淨灘、執行垃圾分類，甚至慢慢從消費端 開使禁用一次性的餐具，儘管如此每年卻依然有成千上萬的海洋生 物死於誤食塑料、漁網纏繞與各種人為廢棄物，而我們又該如何改 變這一切？
Our Fashion, Our Style
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這次的創作透過「基隆海洋廢棄物暫置區」，索取到了漁民們從海洋拾獲的各種 海廢，進而透過這些實體的廢棄物，讓觀者感受海洋生物的無聲吶喊。
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Endless population growth has exhausted a lot of our natural resources. In an era of greed, we’ve created so much waste; marine debris has become an eyesore. While we start beach cleanups, recycling programs, and even stop the use of throw away utensils, there are still millions of plastic and waste being dumped in our oceans everyday. How do we stop this? Can we?
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Concept We visited the shores of Keelung and were able to obtain all kinds of garbage found by fishermen on their trips out to sea. Through these waste objects we can feel that the oceans are crying; the voiceless marine animals are desperate to be rescued.
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PROTECTOR OF THE TURTLES
Text by Ash
Photo by Sylvia & Henry
FB 粉專 「深深愛上愛妮島」 IG 「oceangirl_sylvia」
築起海
海龜城牆的生態保母
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2014 年 Sylvia 與 Henry 踏上了一塊位於菲律賓的
島最美的除了無懈可擊的風景外，對我來說更美
人間淨土 - 愛尼島，在往後的三年間他們來來回
的景色就莫過於那真誠樂觀的「人」們。
回往返了十幾次，最終離開了自己所熟悉的大城 市，搬到這純樸的仙境同時居住下來，過著簡單
眼見美好的背後或許存在著未知的煩惱，但我確
的生活努力築夢，就這樣他們成為了當時唯一居
定在菲律賓愛妮島上的居民們，有個共同的常態
住在愛尼島的台灣人。
那就是「樂觀」。你只需一睹他們的露出白牙的 笑容跟具有魔性的笑聲，就足以理解他們對於幸
往後的日子中他們無地私分享著島上的夢幻美景
福的定義，這裡無論貧富，那種由內而散發出的
與資訊，同時也漸漸開始宣導愛護及保育海洋生
幸福快樂，從任何形式中將天真爛漫顯露無遺，
態的知識與觀念，從動物保育、島上貓狗結紮再
是那樣直接且真實的衝撞進你的心，我想除了仙
到成立 Nacpan 海龜保育區，經過長時間的努力
境般的美景，夢幻不可思議的海域，人文風情絕
與宣導終於讓當地人有了對海龜保育的基本觀
對也是讓我們愛上這裡的其中原因！
念，而這座島嶼究竟有著什麼樣的魔力，讓他們 願意放下城市的便捷投身在陌生異國小島，並且 願意為當地的動物與生態環境盡一份心力呢？
能否跟讀者分享一下愛尼島有著什麼樣的魔力， 讓你們願意離開生活便利的大城市？
菲律賓從 2018 年開始陸續針對環境議題禁用 塑膠製品、海灘違建拆除、禁止船支駛入特定 區域，樣的法規施行後對於當地的商業環境、 生活習慣甚至整體自然環境有任何引響嗎？ 起初菲律賓總統為了還給長灘島原來美貌的面
其實海島國家很多，有絕美海景的也不少，愛上
目，堅持封島關閉風靡全球的旅遊勝地長灘島，
一個地方不會只有一個原因，絕對是經由多種因
我真心覺得這政策落實的夠狂、夠棒、夠有願
素而堆疊成立，然後到無可自拔的地步。而愛妮
見！這樣為了拯救海洋環境而無視上億利益而封
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島整頓半年，將島上胡亂排放污水的旅館與餐廳
齊心努力保育整個愛妮島，落實「無塑膠」政策，
重新整治，拆除超越邊界的建築物、不合政府規
真的非常讓人感動。
範的商家，尤其污水處理系統這方面更加嚴格， 這大大影響菲律賓的旅遊業與商機，甚至島上居
雖然這個法規對經營珍珠奶茶店的我，有超多困
民的生活。
難要突破，但沒有解決不了的問題，只是有沒有 用心跟用腦袋來找出解決的辦法而已。整個愛妮
當然隸屬於菲律賓的愛妮島也不例外，違法且危
島飲料的塑膠吸管全面被紙吸管所取代，而我珍
害到海洋的建築，政府給予的通知日期一到就一
奶的粗吸管最後採用台灣引以為傲的天然竹纖維
律拆除！才剛被世人所發掘的愛妮島，觀光業正
吸管 YOLLY 取代。其實除了採用紙製品外，在
蓬勃發展，若不嚴厲的將永續的法規執行起來，
這裡的商家們也開始共同發揮很多很棒的點子，
那小小的淨土終究會被過度無規範的開發給毀
像是椰子殼外帶碗、竹子吸管、薄木湯匙…等等。
滅，而這一切一切的努力都讓愛妮島的海域走向
若想要加速推動零塑膠的運動，不是和消費者說
原生態的健康美麗，保持不過度商業化的人文風
你不能用，然後依然給予可以使用的權利，而是
情，讓大家都能夠有機會親自見到這傳說中天堂
讓商家直接提供消費者不需要選擇的方案！這點
的樣貌！
「愛妮島」這個世界海洋的小小角落都能做到了， 我相信訂下規範，大家一起共同遵守努力，未來
除了建築法規外，就是所有店家禁止使用「塑
每個國家都能夠齊心齊力的改變政策，讓世界更
膠」！在運輸跟資源都非常不便利的愛妮島，這
美好。當我們善意對待世界，世界絕對也會給我
決定讓所有商家的成本都變高。但卻看著每個店
們更優渥的回報。
家都非常支持跟排除萬難的遵守這個規範，一起
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聽聞您即將成為「作者」這件事情，有什麼能夠 跟我們分享的嗎？
見所感，用充滿島嶼陽光溫暖的力量深深感動人 心的書，希望大家敬請期待！
很榮幸在 2020 的三月初我正式與出版社簽下了 成為「作者」的合約，其實「出書」這件事情早 在我腦海中徘徊了好幾遍，我終於在今年決心要 排除萬難來挑戰並達成這項人生的里程碑，然後 才發現寫書不是想像中那種輕鬆簡單的事。我們
愛妮島目前可以說是“與世隔絕”的零疫情 淨土，但外地旅客與一切海上活動仍然被禁 止，對於如此平靜的景象有任何未曾發生過 的感觸嗎？
在網路上看一篇文章可以很快速，螢幕滑一滑就
菲律賓總統於今年 3 月 15 日開始，全面下令關
閱畢，但一篇認真的文章最少都是要花上大半天
閉巴拉望任何外入登島的交通，剛解禁不久區域
所編寫出來，更何況是寫出整本的「書」。
跟區域間的移動，看著世界疫情指數節節攀升， 許多國家也進入鎖國狀態，誰都始料未及全球會
但也不瞞大家說，寫作真的是一件很動腦又孤獨
有這樣的狀況。愛妮島位於巴拉望的北邊，是個
的事情，但我很幸運的身邊環繞著好朋友跟粉絲
簡單隱世的小島，雖然往昔最熱鬧大街的甦容已
的溫暖鼓勵與支持，本來就知道夢想的實踐從不
不復存在，但這裡沒有浮誇的掃物資行為，仰賴
輕鬆，這次疫情封關在愛妮島無法去任何地方，
觀光旅遊業的愛妮島，在無旅客的狀態下，許多
甚至無法回國的日子，更讓我專注與投入文字之
店家關閉以致當地人紛紛失業，多數人回家鄉陪
間真摯的表述，對於愛妮島美景的描寫，知性自
伴家人、耕種、養雞豬羊，前些日子開放漁民捕
然的帶出引導大家也能感覺身歷其境般，從知識
魚為生，大家日子雖變得辛苦，但也沒聽到多餘
的層次擴展為心靈的震動，我會盡心竭力的在這
的埋怨，這個疫情所造成的影響誰都不願發生，
本個人首創的處女作，帶給讀者們不是充滿文字
可能大家也了解抱怨無法改變現狀，所以選擇接
跟照片的頁面，而是一本可以透過我的經歷與所
受跟等待，在零疫情的淨土下換個角度看，其實
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今卻享有無人打擾的奢侈，我看著當地人玩水嬉
你們是如何開始踏上動物義工的旅程呢，這對 你來說又具有什麼意義？
戲的面容依舊不減往昔的笑容，但連鎖效應導致
我一直有個夢想，我喜歡旅遊，我更喜歡接觸動
的經濟影響，確實是又廣又深且離真正的開放充
物，我夢想並計劃著有天我能在世界各地旅遊的
滿未知。
同時，也能在當地花幾天甚至幾個禮拜的時間去
是相對的幸運了。對比往昔許多旅客的沙灘，如
當動物義工，讓旅遊的意義附上另一層價值。於 我知道這對經濟體系造成很大的影響，我們也是
是我從台灣開始著手，參與了「流浪動物花園」、
被影響的一環。但…我還是私心的為海洋感到開
「SPCA 台灣防止虐待動物協會」、「中華親善
心，為海底世界的所有生物們能夠獲得喘息跟修
動物保護協會」、「五股動物之家」.... 等動保
復的空間而感到竊喜。雖然疫情依然讓人感到無
機構團體，身體力行各種協助與幫忙，也創立了
助及擔憂，但中國的天空再次變藍，美國的街道
「用不同的角度，看待一樣的生命」的粉專，宣
不塞車了，大自然和動物的復甦，世界似乎變的
導愛護動物，尊重生命的理念。這些基礎也讓我
更純凈了些。好與壞總是一體兩面，當無法改變
更堅定自己想要前進的目標，於是我試著去落實
外在因素的時候，我們可以轉換自己的心態，不
夢想的第一步是申請了「四川成都大熊貓繁育研
要執著於那些痛苦，而是想著這些苦難背後或許
究基地」的義工，因為那時我養了兩隻貓跟一隻
賦予了另一層的意義，也成為使我們繼續走下去
狗，我家中的小寶貝對於那些黑白相間的毛絨絨
的動力。相信等疫情結束後，這個地球一定會稍
動物，似乎是個遠端的威脅，即使我附上牠們專
稍回到最原始那個美好的樣貌來見世，愛妮島更
業健康檢查報告呈現的是一切良好，最後充滿期
會變得令人魂牽夢縈。
待的心卻遭到狠狠的駁回。
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白忙一場的初夢又回到被繁雜的工作與處理無謂
於是我又開始尋找有關國外的動物義工資訊，終
瑣事的生活，日復一日的將夢想漸漸被塵埃所掩
於找到能踏出夢想第一步的地方「泰國清邁」。
蓋。可能故步自封在原地打轉的倦怠，日子不再
我知道我男人，對於走進森林弄得全身泥濘幫助
有太多的熱血衝勁，安逸開始悄悄模糊了當初設
動物這件事沒太大的興趣，他是個善良的人，只
定的目標，人生開始接受跟尋找當下的小確幸。
不過每個人行動的方式不同，他寧願花錢捐款獻
聚餐、約會的社交活動讓生活多了份精彩，一切
上最實質的幫助。當然我還是打算邀請我最愛的
看似正常幸福的平凡，但內心卻明顯的少了一種
男人跟我一同去追夢，不論他願不願意我都是鐵
滿足感。除了送養跟清理狗園被毛孩子踩的滿身
了心要出發！讓我意外的是，連大狗狗都會有點
屎尿的時光，就算汗如雨下，開懷的笑容與使命
怕的他，沒有太多猶豫只問我日期，就排開手邊
感卻填滿我心中缺角的那塊。
一切的工作跟行程就答應與我同行。而那趟動物 義工旅程不只改變了我，也改變了他，更改變了
我聰明又厲害的男朋友 Henry，他看透了我的日
我們的人生。
常笑容面具背後的鬱鬱寡歡，有天他告訴我，人 生很短暫，最重要的事就是做自己想做的事，完
也因為清邁大象義工的始端，讓我們深刻感受到
成自己想達成的夢想跟目標，不管別人怎麼說、
生命的本質在於幫助與付出，當我們給予多少愛
怎麼阻止、怎樣的不看好，你都要朝自己要的方
時，就能由衷地感受到更多的喜悅。那次的義工
向前進跟努力。妳有夢想就要好好保護它，夢想
體驗也讓日後的我們成為了背包客，遊走了世界
是否能茁壯或逐漸凋萎都與他人無關，完全取決
兩年後來到愛妮島定居，創建了我們的海龜孵育
於妳自己。我非常感謝他看穿了我拙劣的偽裝，
區。雖然開始有了其他的事情要忙，但現在的我
嚴厲的喚回我的夢想及熱情。
絕不會輕易停止自己規劃的夢想藍圖，反而更加 堅定這個「動物義工旅程」的使命。
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是什麼樣的事件或現象，讓你們體悟到必須開 始復育海龜？「Nacpan 海龜保育區」又是怎麼 復育海龜的呢？未來有什麼更大型的復育計畫 或生態教育計畫嗎？
放生，進而推廣教育當地人民海洋生態的重要 性！ Scuba Junkie 就是那麼一間完全身體力行並 採取完善教育來執行愛海洋，保護海洋生態，拯 救地球的模範潛水旅館。記得當晚深夜有小海龜 孵化，雖然我們沒遇上，但真的很感謝宇宙的牽
當你愛上海洋時，你就會越在乎它！而我們深深
引，從沒想過這趟旅程的意義對我們往後未來的
的愛上美妙的大海，當我們在遊走世界海洋的時
走向是如此的影響深遠，讓我們用不同的思維跟
候，除了動人的海底世界外，也同時見證了許多
角度看見可能性。
令人悲傷的事件，而且那些悲劇多是我們人類所 造成…像是海洋中浮載浮沉的塑膠垃圾，讓愛吃
之後我們遷移到愛妮島定居於我們最愛的 Nacpan
水母的海龜傻傻分不清的吃下肚，我們親眼看見
沙灘上，發現這連綿三公里的夢幻沙灘是海龜們
因為胃裡裝滿塑料而無法下沉的海龜，活生生在
會回來延續後代的原始故鄉，牠們上岸的身影在
海面被太陽曬死、餓死、痛苦而死的軀體，畫面
空無一人的夜光下顯得特別巨大，但卻沒嚇退人
令人心碎痛心。
類的無知與貪婪。生活在小漁村的當地人會以海 龜蛋為食與販售，我一開始得知時非常無法理解
在 2016 年五月時，我們去到了馬來西亞的一處
且憤怒，但後來換個立場去理解後也多少明白他
潛水聖地 Sipadan，入住的 SCUBA JUNKIE 就在
們的動機，當地漁民普遍收入低，一窩莫約 100
海洋保育這塊做得非常好，在旅客入住的同時，
顆的海龜蛋能求餐溫飽外，販售多餘的龜蛋相當
不只是享受潛水樂趣，更能學習兼教育旅人們正
於零成本的收入來源。海龜蛋年復一年的被祭入
確的海洋知識。那裏當地居民有盜取海龜蛋來吃
五臟廟，已經成了件似乎理所當然的事情，我們
的行為，於是他們開價買入被盜取的蛋，然後建
身為外國人帶著遺憾及兩難的同理心輾轉難眠了
立海龜孵化基地，用以保護海龜蛋，等待孵化後
幾夜，我們想起那趟 Sipadan 之旅的啟發，雖然
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我們起初在這方面是門外漢，但我們深愛海洋，
一聲輕鬆的登們告知，這個根深蒂固的生態因錢
深愛這片原始的淨土，尊重愛護每個生命，我們
而產生了雙贏的改變，它可以是惡魔也同時可以
相信這一切是可以改變的！於是我們決心努力
是天使，好壞於否都取決於人心。我們也同時花
在 Nacpan Beach 創建打造一個「海龜保育孵化園
了兩年的時間進行教育宣導，最後終於成功地改
區」，教育當地居民對海洋生態的概念，讓生命
變整個 Nacpan 沙灘吃海龜蛋的行為，知識改變
永續。
命運，很多時候行為都是因為無知而造成的，教 育真的是非常重要的一環。雖然動保這條路我們
海龜，真的是很需要保育的海洋生物，自然天敵
都明白不容易，一直都沒有做多餘對外的募款，
一堆，舉凡蜥蜴、海鳥、各種大小魚，連人類都
就怕讓海龜保育的善意成為讓人容易誤會的商業
不放過，根據研究指出 1000 顆孵化的海龜蛋中，
化行為，所以我們落座於 Nacpan 的 Sunmai 沙灘
只有一隻海龜寶寶能夠順利存活下來，現今加上
酒吧是支撐海龜保育很重要的一部分，我們會將
自然環境的破壞，海龜要生存下來是越來越艱
其中盈餘拿出來支撐「海龜孵化園區」，也很謝
難。我們最初稟照 Scuba Junkie 的模式，用金錢
謝身邊朋友跟有緣人的支持幫助。當你目睹小海
換取當地人挖取的海龜蛋，但發現只要挖取晃動
龜破蛋而出爬向大海的那刻，一切辛苦都變得值
到的蛋就無法孵化，脆弱的海龜蛋若經由不專業
得，也讓我們內心充滿幸福跟喜悅！
又粗魯的移動手法取出，等同於宣告死亡。所以 後來採用告知的方式，當找到海龜產卵所在後，
「Nacpan 海 龜 保 育 孵 化 園 區 」 從 2017 年 至
告知我們專業的海龜團隊去做搬遷的動作，成
2020 年，總共孵育了 16864 顆海龜蛋，從第一
功遷移到我們的孵化園區後再支付報酬。有人說
年的 720 顆到今年 6780 顆的佳績，成為巴拉望
「錢」是會讓人迷失的萬惡的根源，但對我來說
最大也最成功的私人海龜孵育園區，目前依然努
「錢」能用來拯救生命，而看著順利孵化後的小
力當中。其實我們身為人每天都在用選擇和行動
海龜朝向海洋方向爬去的霎那，錢發揮了它存在
來證明，對自己而言，真正重要的是什麼！我們
的最大價值。當人們發現販售海龜蛋的獲利不如
孵育數量一年比一年的還多，從無到有，從遠
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端 Scuba Junkie 的紙本請教到請來菲律賓專業
息的傳達經由新聞或社群媒體的圖文表述，甚至
人員來教育跟上課，我們不會因攀升的數據而驕
影片實況所帶來強烈的視覺衝擊，讓許多人在瀏
傲，更不會停止繼續努力打造更美好的園區，讓
覽的同時產生情緒的共鳴。當網絡自媒體與傳統
孵化量繼續提升，讓更多可愛的小海龜順利誕生
媒體共同關注某件事情時，就會產生更強烈的共
回到大海。我們盡所能的阻止了陸地上一切的風
鳴效果，使輿論的聲音愈發顯著。在雙管齊下所
險，但回到海洋的小海龜，還是很容易會被大魚
共同造成的共識輿論壓力下，往往使得事情往更
吃掉。好不容易長大，有硬殼能夠保護自己，則
好或更糟的狀態發展。
是面臨到誤食人類垃圾造成死亡，還有不肖商人 的獵捕，我們無法控制海洋食物鏈，但我們是人
就在這樣催生下的共鳴效果，確實凝聚了「我們」
類，我們有更多的選擇，選擇成為更棒的自己。
的思想，很多事不再是「你們」跟「他們」的事
未來規劃的藍圖會希望「Nacpan 海龜孵化園區」
情，集體共識相互交疊成一股強大的力量，戰勝
的存在，可以讓所有來到這菲律賓第一名沙灘的
了個人意識，使我們開始進行了反思檢討人類對
旅客，可以享受蔚藍海洋與放鬆外，更能同時學
自然所採取的征服、索取的態度。在自然萬物面
到海龜及保育海洋相關的知識，成功植入人心的
前，人類不在是集權的主宰，許多人開始茹素，
宣導從日常生活改變習慣，讓大家都能夠一起更
對自然抱持謙卑平等意識，對慘忍虐待的動物實
關注海洋，愛護生命！
驗說不、為血腥的皮草走上街頭、勇敢的為不合 理與不公正的議題用力的發出聲音。「我們」的
即使每個人能力跟時間都有限，但我相信「愛」
價值觀，從個體進而影響到集體，達到一種聚集
可以發揮無限可能，或許無法改變全世界，但能
的共同意識。
夠因自己能力內的幫助而有一點改變，能夠變得 更好，我相信這是身為人類最大的榮幸與喜悅，
要人類一致的讓「我們」的集體意識只存在於往
畢竟唯有了解，才有關心；唯有關心，才有行動；
美好的方向共同前進，創造外無征戰內無衝突，
唯有行動，生命才有希望！
充滿愛與世界和平的烏托邦理想國度，現實上似 乎還是有一段遙遠的路程，但無可厚非的是「我
近年來從人種、性別的平權問題再到動保、永 續 ... 等等議題，似乎都讓人們重新意識到“你 們、他們”的疆界已漸漸被打破，最後留下的只 有“我們”這件事，那對於你們來說“我們”是 個什麼樣的概念呢？
們」確實再甦醒中，有更多的人不再選擇迴避與
現今處於這個大數據的時代，國際上每天都發生
所以「我們」可以選擇用自己的生命力量，來創
許多驚人的大事件，日新月異的急速變化，無論
造世界更美好的價值，讓自己有理性思考判斷是
從政治到經濟，從娛樂到科技，重大或是微小，
非的能力。世界不容易打造，更不是短短的時間
多數人都關注著國際事件的發展跟走向。而人性
就會有成果，但找到跟你理念相同的夥伴一起齊
的本質我相信是充滿「善與愛」的，但社會上有
心協力，每個人都願意盡力的為這個願景作出貢
太多的衝突跟利益再發生，人們多數開始採取自
獻，進而影響身邊的人，勿忘我們身為人類最根
我意識的防範，但近年來發生的眾多事件，開始
本的善良與愛去前進，我相信實現理想中的烏托
不再是個體或小眾，而是世界性的問題，加上網
邦世界，也不會是不可能的！
際平台資訊的發達，在不論是種族、戰爭、疫情、 自然災害、氣候變異、環境保育 .... 等等，這些信
沈默，對生命而言，每一件事情，每一個決定都 有其意義，若我們變成一個忽視生命尊嚴的社會 時，那是多麼可怕的事情。
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In 2014, Sylvia and Henry set foot on an island in the Philippines- El Nido Island. For the next three years, they went back more than a dozen times, and finally left the big city they were familiar with and moved to this simple wonderland. Their dream was to live a simple life and they worked hard to do so. They were the only Taiwanese living on El Nido Island at the time. They shared with the world the beauty and information regarding the island and then gradually began to promote the importance of marine conservation, animal protection, stray animal TNR, and then set up Nacpan, a sea turtle conservation site. Long-term efforts and publicity finally gave locals a basic concept of sea turtle conservation.
Since 2018, the Philippines has banned plastic products, demolished illegally constructed buildings along beaches, and prohibited boats from entering specific areas in response to environmental issues. After such regulations were implemented, has it impacted local businesses, how people live, and the overall natural environment? The President of the Philippines insisted on closing the world-famous tourist attraction Boracay in order for nature to recuperate itself. I really feel that the implementation of this policy is crazy, yet great and promising! In order to save the environment, the island was closed for half a year, which was a loss of hundreds of millions of dollars in tourism income. Hotels and restaurants
Can you share with us what is so special about El Nido that made you leave the big city?
on the island that discharged sewage improperly were forced to change and businesses that did not comply with government regulations were closed down.This has greatly affected the tourism industry
There are many island nations and many beautiful places, so to fall in love with a place usually
in the Philippines, and even the lives of the islanders.
requires more than just a single reason. El Nido not only has beautiful scenery but to me the most beautiful are the honest and optimistic people who live here.
Of course, El Nido, which is part of the Philippines, was no exception. Illegally built buildings and ones that endanger marine life will be demolished! The tourism industry in El Nido is
I’m sure everyone worries about the future, but everyone living on this island shares one common attitude, which is positivity. Once you see the smiles and magic-like laughter that you hear from the people here, you will understand that regardless of wealth, true happiness comes from within. The
booming; if laws for sustainability are not strictly enforced, the small island will eventually be destroyed by excessive development. Government efforts will allow El Nido to maintain its natural beauty so that people for generations to come can enjoy this small piece of paradise.
people and culture made me fall in love with this place!
In addition to building regulations, all stores prohibit the use of "plastic"! In El Nido, where
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resources are limited and transportation is very
process, but I am fortunate to be surrounded by the
inconvenient, this decision has made the cost of
warm encouragement and support of good friends
running a businesses higher. But everyone is very
and fans. Due to Covid-19 we can only stay in
supportive and abides by this rule; people working
El Nido and can not even travel back to Taiwan,
together to support the "plastic-free" policy, it is
which has allowed me to focus and devote myself
really touching.
to writing. I will try my best to bring the beauty of El Nido to my readers; not just pages full of words
Although this regulation has made it difficult for
and photos, but a book that can be felt through my
me, as I run a bubble tea shop, I believe there are
experiences, a book that deeply touches people's
no problems that cannot be solved. Plastic straws
hearts, so please stay tuned!
in El Nido were all completely replaced by paper
straws that are made in Taiwan. In addition to
El Nido is said to be safe from the epidemic, however, tourism and all ocean activities have stopped. What are your thoughts?
using paper products, the merchants here have also
Beginning on March 15th of this year, the President
begun to be quite creative, using coconut shells as
of the Philippines ordered the closure of any
bowls, bamboo straws, thin-wooden spoons... etc. If
transportation to and from Palawan. Not long after
you want to accelerate the plastic-free movement,
the ban was lifted, many countries then entered a
it is not to tell consumers that you should not use
state of lockdown which limited travel between
it, but instead let the merchants directly provide
countries. No one expected such circumstances.
solutions so that consumers do not need to choose!
El Nido is located in the north of Palawan. It is
I believe that by setting the norm, everyone will
a simple and secluded island. Although Su Rong
work together. Every country can work together to
was the busiest street in the past, it no longer
change policies and make the world a better place.
exists. El Nido, which relies on tourism, has
When we treat the world with kindness, the world
suffered greatly from the epidemic. Many shops
will definitely give us kindness in return.
are closed and local people have lost their jobs.
straws, and I replaced the larger bubble tea straws with YOLLY, which are these natural bamboo fiber
Most of them have gone home to their families to
You are about to become an author! Tell us about that?
farm, raise chickens, pigs and sheep. A few days
I officially signed a contract with a publishing
could make a living. Although everyone’s life has
house in early March of 2020. I’ve always wanted
become hard, no one really wants to complain
to write a book and finally decided to do it. Then
about the impact of this epidemic. Maybe everyone
I realized that writing a book is not as easy as
understands that complaining cannot change
imagined. We can read an article quickly on the
anything, so they choose to just accept it and wait.
Internet, but a good article takes at least half a day
Looking at it from another perspective, we are
to write, not to mention an entire book.
relatively lucky to be living here. I watch the faces
ago the government opened up fishing so locals
of the locals playing in the water and they are still Writing is really a very difficult and lonely
smiling, but the economic impact caused by the epidemic is sure to be substantial.
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Though the economy is suffering, I can’t help but
and its harsh realities hit me. I started working and
be happy for our oceans! Our oceans and marine
social expectations creeped in on me; life seemed
life finally have a chance to breathe and recuperate.
good as I hung out with friends, socialized, dined
The virus makes us worry and feel helpless, but
out, etc. but I wasn’t happy. I still helped out at
look at the blue skies in China! Traffic jams no
shelters and rescued and rehomed animals, but
longer exist in the US, and nature and its animals
something deep down inside of me was missing.
are recovering. There are always two sides to the story; we shouldn’t look at the negative aspects
One day my boyfriend Henry saw through my
but rather we should change our attitudes, and look
disguise; behind the smile I put on for others, my
at the meaning behind it all. After the pandemic
dream was escaping further and further away from
ends, I’m sure the world will be beautiful again,
me. Henry told me, life is short. He told me that I
and El Nido will become even more dreamy.
should be reaching for my dreams and doing things that were important to me. Thus, I started looking
How did you start volunteering with animals? Why’ s it so important to you?
for volunteer work outside of Taiwan, and that’s
I’ve always had a dream. I love to travel and I
that my boyfriend was a kind person and loved
love animals. So I’ve always wanted to travel and
animals, but I wasn’t so sure about whether or not
help animals at the same time. I started in Taiwan;
he’d be willing to go into the forest with me to
I volunteered with the Taiwan SPCA and various
help the elephants. Despite my doubts, I invited
other local charities. I also started a Facebook
him to come along with me, and he actually said
page titled“In Earthlings”. These experiences
yes! He put all of his work aside and came with
also led me to Sichuan where I volunteered with
me. That trip changed not only me, but I saw it
Chengdu Panda Base. After a while though, life
changed him as well. It changed us.
when I discovered Chiang Mai, Thailand. I knew
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In Chiang Mai, through contribution and service,
In May of 2016, we went to Sipadan in Malaysia
we discovered the true essence of life. When we
where we stayed at Scuba Junkie. Scuba Junkie
share our love, we gain so much joy in return.
is not just a diving school and resort, but they
After our volunteer trip in Thailand, we decided to
educate people about the ocean. Locals in Sipadan
embark on a backpacker’s trip around the world.
steal turtle eggs to eat and to sell, so Scuba
After a two year journey, we settled down in El
Junkie buys the eggs, hatch them, and then release
Nido, and founded our own sea turtle conservation
them! They also promote sustainability, and the
site. Right now, though I have different projects I’ m
protection of marine ecology to the locals. That
involved in, I am determined to keep following my
trip affected us tremendously; it allowed us to see
dream. My mission is to help animals, and I will
possibilities.
continue to do so. When we moved to El Nido, we settled on Nacpan
When did you realize that you wanted to help sea turtles? How did the Nacpan Sea Turtle Conservation project come about?
beach which is almost 3 kilometres long, and
When you fall in love with the ocean, you begin to
which really frustrated me and angered me. We had
care about it as well! When you go into the ocean
several sleepless nights just thinking about the
you are captivated by the world beneath, but at the
poor turtles that were being exploited. However
same time, you witness so much sadness. All of
when we began to think from another perspective,
the pollution and garbage floating in the waters,
we could somehow understand why the locals
and the sea turtles with stomachs full of plastic.
poached the eggs. The majority of fishermen there
The turtles suffer so much pain before dying on the
were very poor; turtle eggs to them came at zero
beaches, and it’s just heartbreaking to see.
cost, and could feed their families. It was at that
was where the turtles came back to lay their eggs. However, locals also poached the eggs to sell,
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time we remembered our trip to Sipadan; though
Between 2017 and 2020 we’ve hatched and
we were outsiders at the time, our love for the
released over 16864 turtles. We’ve become
ocean is what drove us. We decided to commit
Palawan’s most successful private sea turtle
ourselves to start the Sea Turtle Conservation and
conservation and hatchery. We’re still working
Hatchery in Napcan, and set out to educate the
hard everyday to do more. For the future, we hope
locals about sea life conservation.
that more travellers can come here to enjoy the ocean, and learn more about marine conservation.
Sea turtles really need our help. They have a ton
We believe that love creates infinite possibilities.
of natural enemies including lizards, sea birds, and
It might not be able to change the world, but the
various fish. In about 1000 eggs, only one baby
world can be a bit better, because of us. You must
turtle will survive. We wanted to mimic the Scuba
care to take action, you must take action for there
Junkie method, where we offered monetary rewards
to be hope!
to locals who helped us. We persuaded locals to
situation; the locals found the means to make a
With everything happening in the world, people are starting to realize that we are in this together. It’ s no longer about you or me, but rather Us. What are your thoughts on this?
living, and we were able to hatch and release more
We all have the power to create something of value
turtles into the sea.
in this world. To be able to judge rationally and
find the eggs, and notify us when they did so that our professional team of experts could safely move the eggs to our hatchery. It became a win-win
to think for ourselves is so important. Changing Sometimes the problems we see in this world are
the world isn’t easy, but everyone has the ability
all because of ignorance and lack of education.
to affect those around you. If you can find a group
We spent two years campaigning and educating the
of people who share the same vision as you, then
locals about why they shouldn’t eat turtle eggs.
keep moving forward with love and kindness; if
The Sunmai Bar is also an important part of our
we don’t give up, I believe that an utopian world
conservation efforts, because the profits from the
isn’t a far-off dream.
bar are donated to the hatchery, so that we don’t need to keep fundraising to sustain our efforts.
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不同人種 不同膚色 不同年齡 保持安全距離 浩劫 凝聚了某些未曾被發覺的情感層面 1 公尺 只是一個空間的形態 我們 就是組成連繫的脈絡 縱始有再大的艱困與遺憾 人類 血脈相連 毅立不搖
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我與眾不同 和與眾不同的你 一樣 與眾不同
映照 / 各色的人種，各色的妝容，各自的價值觀，每個獨一無二的個體下，共享著同一個世界。 我們有著相同地獨一無二。 創作 / 插畫
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PHOTOGRAPHER / 李柏毅
分隔兩地，大家對車輛顏色愛好也不同，台灣居多喜愛深色車， 大陸喜歡白色車 ( 蘇州出差拍的 ) 不過，黑眼睛黑頭髮黃皮膚，我們全都是龍的傳人。
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生活之中，總有向上探尋的時刻，仰望的同時，也期待俯下的凝視。 即使是同時發生的事物，仍有不同觀看的解讀，我們因此有了更寬廣尺度 的憑藉，以及重新定義渺小與巨大的可能，無與有，通常不是絕對，黑與 白，總是存在著度量以外的灰，而生命也是如此。
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PHOTOGRAPHER / Jerry Chou Cameras use ｜ EOS 3 Lens used ｜ 24-105 F4 L Material used ｜ FUJIFILM RDP lll
登上峰頂的路再苦，咬著牙，用盡最後一絲力氣或爬或跪都要堅持住！ 真正用心去做和不斷去付出努力，我相信總有一天成功之門會為了我而開啟。
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「你的世界不著邊際，我無從想像。」 你說。 我有過起點，但已忘了從哪開始，於是一直都在旅途中，有過終點， 但終點一直在變，所以我依舊在旅途中。
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「我們」，在同儕影響最強烈的學生時期，這個詞也被使 用的氾濫。幾乎每個青少年都希望自己是「我們」的其中 一人，但當有人不在「我們」之中，抑或是受到「我們」 的人討厭時，那人便可能遭受「我們」的欺凌。 曾經有位同學遭受霸淩，當老師問霸淩人的學生為何這麼 做時，竟有人回答：「我也不知道，我不討厭他，但大家 都這麼做。」由此可見同儕間「我們」的力量是多麼強烈。 此作品為「言語霸淩」，妝容透過臉上的唇印來表達曾遭 受的言語傷害，本該鮮紅的唇印也猶如疤痕般，無法抹除 且逐漸泛黑。作品想傳達被霸淩者的無助與受傷，希望我 們都能成為美好的「我們」，而不是被「我們」控制。
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